Robert Montenegro

17 hours ago, Michael Crane said:

If a person was to choose to begin training in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu,he would have to pay $199.00 per month.

If a person was to choose to begin training in Muay Thai,he would have to pay $169.00 a month.

That is not even including the $75.00 enrollment fee.

Solid offer IMO.

Yeah, but then there's that whole cauliflower ear thing, and then you start to look like an idiot... 

On 4/2/2024 at 7:54 PM, Ron Bulman said:

Threatening another forum member, including Moderators/Administrators, will result in vacation time for the member doing so at any time, every time.

Thank you for keeping things civil, Mr. Bulman—I appreciate it to no end.

On 4/2/2024 at 12:30 PM, Tony Rose said:

A tremedous amount of valuable work, Robert. Thank you. I hope it stiumlates a lot more work from others, as well.

No problem.

And yes, I hope that it shakes new life into the myopic pond-water state of affairs the "research community" finds itself bogged down in...

15 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:

Why would anyone break into John's office and not steal additional research, or did they? Are we to understand the break-in was specific to June's files?  If so, why wasn't Albarelli's place broken into as well?

Be careful Leslie, you are utilizing logic to fight a straw-man conclusion.

You know the marching call around here is the battle-cry of Sgt. Schultz:

17 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

Just for speculative discussion ... what would you think of Robertson's presence in Dealey Plaza that day and right during the shooting of JFK?

I believe, based on what we know about Special Activities Division officer William A. Robertson's unredacted military service history, that he was providing the "mechanics" (meaning the shooter teams that actually fired shots at President Kennedy) with security intelligence support operations.

You name it, you can have it, escape & evasion routes, physical security of the shooters, getaway drivers & vehicles, cover & deception for shooters (like cover stories & false identification), suicide devices (in case murder team members are captured), communication relays for shooter teams (and jamming equipment), etc.—this is the kind of coordination and support that SAD officer Robertson was providing to the mechanics that murdered President Kennedy.

And I do not believe he was alone—I name off a small team of personnel that were in strategic positions within and without the intelligence community, that were also acting as coordinators in this plot.

William Robertson was providing this type of function for commando teams on a global scale—that program was awarded the cryptonym ZRJEWEL.    

4 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said:

Again...Facial Recognition Technology can now prove ( or disprove? ) Robertson was photographed in the Dealey Plaza bystander crowd as JFK drove through just seconds before he was obliterated.

Well, Mr. Bauer, at the expense of sounding like an immediate disqualifier, I am of the belief that every single photograph, strip of film footage and audio-recording of the murder of President Kennedy, has been altered in some fashion by powerful interests that want to suppress some aspect of the operation or another—whether it be firing sequences, or the presence of some operative who got a little careless about operational security, and stood in front of a pedestrian's camera.

As for AI recognition, I do believe it would be a brillant tool to not only identifying persons in and around the fire-zone of President Kennedy's murder, but also voice stressor technology.

Techniques are being developed right now to sense whether or not someone is lying, based off of the tone, pitch and syntax of speech.

That would be an invaluable resource, if we could say, funnel audio of District Attorney Henry Wade, Clay Shaw, or Mr. Oswald thru a series of filters, to see if the men were lying, based on the response of acoustic spectrometer analysis.

Scary and fascinating times we live in, with technology like that at a civilian's fingertips...

2 hours ago, John Kowalski said:

Robert:

What evidence do you have of his connection to Kennedy's assassination?

At the expense of looking like I am groping in the dark, I must admit that I place Maj. Bloomfield's name on this list as a matter of fleshing out the "battlespace" that the murders of President Kennedy operated within.

That is to say, the superstructure of Western intelligence and how it operated in the time period leading up to the events of President Kennedy's murder.

In terms of hard evidence, we, as researchers are forced to infer at the moment when it comes to Maj. Bloomfield.

We know that he was an attorney for PERMINDEX (an entity identified in CIA documents as being a gargantuan front for arm-trading), where he specialized in covering-up the true motives of the corporate structure of PERMINDEX 's revolving door of WWII-era fascists & Western intelligence assets.

It should be noted, that most of the researchers that dare look at Maj. Bloomfield, and see his connections to Israeli gun-running operations, think that he is some willing asset to the Mossad—this argument is a non-starter.

Just because you sell weapons to a fledgling nation-state, does not mean you have any loyalties to that country, it just means you are an opportunistic worm, willing to make a buck wherever possible—enter stage right, Maj. Bloomfield.

Once again, I would stress that until we get the final word on PERMINDEX , we will never get the full scope of their officer's goals and mission parameters.

In the meantime, I choose to make highly informed estimates.

In other words, I am forced into the realm of "educated guesses."

So, to answer your question, Mr. Kowalski, I am up the creek until we, as a research community, are allowed to see all of the documents.

We have barely begun to scratch the surface of what PERMINDEX was...   

When it comes to PERMINDEX, I would suggest the mind-numbing research of Edmund Burger and Michele Metta, then allow common sense to dictate your next move.

On 3/14/2024 at 1:49 AM, Leslie Sharp said:

Before Roger Stone's "LBJ Did It" consumes this thread entirely — and with the indulgence of Robert Montenegro who has generously provided the most comprehensive database of its kind to date — the influence of Clark Mollenhoff's reporting warrants review from a broader perspective than has been promoted thus far:

. . . Sy Hersh notes that Clark Mollenhoff’s reporting included reference to Delaware Senator Williams’ access to an account of [Ellen] Rometsch’s life in D.C. over a period of more than two years, and that having been born in East Germany, she still had relatives on “the other side of the iron curtain.” Mollenhoff had added, either parenthetically or based on information provided him by his sources within the government, “The possibility that her activity might be connected with espionage is of some concern for security investigators because of the high rank of her male companions.” Thus, Mollenhoff revealed to the public that in July, the FBI had started investigating the possibility that Ellen was a Soviet spy, and that “with less than a week’s notice, she and her husband were sent back to Germany . . . at the request of the State Department.” 

Hersh observes that Mollenhoff, who had covered labor corruption during the 1950s, had been an enthusiastic supporter of Bobby Kennedy’s work as general counsel of the Senate Rackets Committee. Writes Hersh, “The two men had grown apart—the specifics of their dispute could not be learned for this book—and the increasingly conservative [emphasis added] Mollenhoff had begun to write extensively, and critically, of the Kennedy administration’s decision in late 1962 to bypass Boeing and award the TFX contract to General Dynamics. Writes Hersh, Mollenhoff’s reporting “was taken most seriously by Bobby Kennedy.”

Indeed, reporter Mollenhoff’s conservative leaning was apparent in public settings when in October of 1962 when he participated on a panel, “Washington Cover-Up” at Georgetown University alongside the president of the Ukraine Congress Committee of America (UCCA) and Georgetown economics professor Lev Dobriansky, evidenced in a photo in The Ukraine Weekly, and in ensuing years Mollenhoff was not shy about his commitment to anti-communism. A brief mention in an article dated Saturday, April 20, 1974 in The Ukraine Weekly, under the headline, “Anti-communist League Holds 7th Conference In Washington,” provides a window into his public support of the World Anti-communist League (WACL). 

Hosted in D.C. by the American Council for World Freedom (ACWF), the conference boasted some twenty-five speakers representing both free nations and countries under Communist suppression, including autocrat General Anastazio Somoza of Nicaragua and the Hon. Jaroslav Stetsko, former Prime Minister of Ukraine and head of the Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations (ABN) since its inception as well as leader of the Organization of Ukranian Nationalists (OUN). The US affiliate of Stetsko’s ABN, The American Friends of Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations is infamous among Kennedy researchers for its leading member Spas Raikin being tapped to meet Lee Harvey Oswald and his Russian wife Marina as they arrived from the USSR. 

Among the US speakers at the 1974 WACL conference were prominent Republicans including future congressman John McCain, conservative journalist William F. Buckley, and Prof. Dobriansky. The lengthy article in The Ukraine Weekly continues to describe the events, “The first reception, hosted by three members of the American press, John Chamberlain, King Features Syndicate columnist, Robert Hurleigh, Mutual Broadcasting System columnist, and Clark Mollenhoff, Pulitzer Prize winning columnist and Washington Bureau Chief of the "Des Moines Register and Star" was held at the National Press Club.”

Of interest to researchers in pursuit of significant domestic and foreign intrigues in the decades following the assassination implicating yet another web of ideologically aligned forces, at the time of the 1974 WACL conference attended by Mollehnhoff and Dobriansky, the Cowles Communication / Des Moines Register board included Ret. General George Olmsted, close friend to Rear Admiral Arleigh Burke who resigned from the navy before President Kennedy had served a full year as president to join Texaco, one of four Rockefeller concerns to secure exclusive drilling rights in Saudi Arabia. Olmsted was the force behind the financial empire that within the decade would be caught up in the BANK OF CREDIT AND COMMERCE (BCCI) scandal. 

Later in this investigation, the network of WACL and Stetsko’s ABN, tied to the assassination of Ukranian Stepan Bandera who led the OUN said to be most closely aligned with Mussolini’s fascism before his assassination, and their affiliation with General Charles Willoughby and General Edwin A. Walker — both named frequently by Lafitte — will assume greater significance.

For now, in light of the Ellen Rometsch scandal widely exposed by Mollenhoff who was first to compare it to the Profumo Affair and the possibility that more than blackmail was in play, it is important to draw attention to several Lafitte entries:

NYC Rest guide ad.
Talk of Ella R. photographs
. . . in NY at Previews
—Lafitte datebook, September 17, 1963

Meet with Willoughby at
(Ella R) others at
49 East 53rd St.
NYC
—Lafitte datebook, October 15, 1963

 

 

Ironclad information—thank you, Leslie.

On 3/7/2024 at 6:37 PM, Leslie Sharp said:

However, making the leap that all on the list are “responsible for the murder of President Kennedy” without clear parameters of the term “responsible” is just that, a leap. I would suggest inserting the caveat to each category: With skills and in a position to . . .  as well as applying a process of prioritization.

I would have to come to the hard defense of this manifesto I put together by saying until kingdom come and the Almighty lays waste to all ignorance and hidden things, this list, at least on a cultural "superego" level, will have to do.

With that said, I stand by what I have done here.

If anything, it makes for a jolly-good horrorshow reflection of our national security state that such monsters were in strategic positions of power in 1963...

On 3/17/2024 at 7:02 PM, Robert Reeves said:

Sheffield Edwards retirement date is only of interest after the assassination of JFK. 

On 3/17/2024 at 8:46 PM, Robert Morrow said:

This does not answer your question... but I would like to add:

1) The Kennedys were a sure lock to force J. Edgar Hoover to mandatorily retire on January 1, 1965, when Hoover reached the mandatory federal retirement age of 70.

2) Gen. Edward Lansdale was pretty much forced out of the military on 10/31/1963 just 3 weeks before the JFK assassination.

No one "retires" from those liaisons—retirement documents in the intelligence community are just pieces of paper.

There is no shedding of uniforms after a certain rank and time-in-service is accomplished—too much programming has taken place once you reach Colonel and above.

13 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

The compartmentalization is what made the large conspiracy work. Only a small few at the top would know what was going one, besides the assassination team (the gunmen). Not knowing what was happening, those following the orders of the plotters couldn't be indicted of anything, and couldn't squeal on anyone else.

Ruth Paine, for example. She was instructed by he handler to call Truly and ask for a job for Oswald. There's nothing nefarious sounding in that. Of course, she might have suspected the CIA was involved... but is she going to risk making her suspicion known? About the organization that killed the president and could do the same with her?

Much easier to stay dumb.

 

Once again, you are striking the nail right on the head—only a microscopic minority of the people involved in the murder of President Kennedy ever knew the final product.

That is the essence of a militarized covert action—the more persons involved who are simply following orders, the tighter the security around the knowledgeable conspirators becomes...

...soon, you have an army of personnel, all doing their little part, blissfully unaware that their actions are bringing about the overthrow of the very concept of democracy!

8 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Incredibly, after he did his dirty work with Perry and Parkland, Elmer Moore became like the aide de camp to Earl Warren!

Can you imagine that?

Mr Cover up artist then becomes the chief assistant to the guy who is supposed to finding out who killed Kennedy.

Whenever you think the Warren Commission cannot get any worse, it does.

Let us not forget what Elmer Moore said to Jim about Kennedy being Moscow's man.

What a nightmare scenario.

My sincere condolences.

22 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

Thanks, maybe I'm not a lone nut.

We are all nuts.

Who else would put their rear-ends on the line, and point-blank call out the corridors of military intelligence & corporatist networks for their darkest deeds?

Bravery and stupidity are innate to one another, I have found.

But I see your point.

On 3/12/2024 at 9:17 PM, Ron Bulman said:

Douglas Caddy posted this in the Water Coolers forum today.  I found it interesting.  Given Robert's statement I thought it might be relevant here.

Why Allen Dulles Killed the Kennedys (foreignpolicyjournal.com)

I'd have to agree with the premise of Mr. Swanson's article.

"...an amorphous group of unelected corporate lawyers, bankers, and intelligence and military officials..." murdered the President of the United States.

And it was extremely compartmentalized...

2 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

I noticed today the name of Lashbrook on the list in relation to MKULTRA.  Bryan is on it, West, Gottlieb, George Hunter White.  How might Ultra have paved the way to the JFKA?

It was a two-fold effect:

1. The assassins were conditioned to have no fear, feelings of remorse, or response to gore and viscera—trigger-men who would not hesitate when the moment of truth (murdering the President) made itself opportune.

2. The most comprised elements of the plot (coordinators, planners, shooters, etc.) could be conditioned to forget—that is to say, under interrogation, they literally could not reveal strategic information about the plot. This is why people like Richard M. Nixon and George H.W. Bush could not remember what they were doing that day—they opted not to remember.

On 3/8/2024 at 5:48 PM, Jim Hargrove said:

Thanks, Robert!

Just wanted to add my name to the list of people thanking you for this database of probable Kennedy assassination conspirators.

In my thirty years of research on this subject, I’ve come up with only a much shorter list of names that I’m convinced were involved in the killing, but every one of them appears on your list in a prominent way!  Thanks so much!
 

No problem.

It has been a long ten years of my life, examining the murder of President Kennedy.

I would like to stress once again that this list of persons represents a highly compartmentalized network.

As for it's size, well, it is relatively small as far as covert military operations are concerned.

The "Manhattan Project" had over one-hundred thousand personnel involved—out of that number, only about one-hundred personnel ever knew what the final product was...

13 hours ago, Robert Burrows said:

Robert, do you have any thoughts on Brown Brothers Harriman's denial of Nazi sympathies, which can be found on their website?

 https://www.bbh.com/us/en/bbh-who-we-are/our-story/200-years-of-partnership/brown-brothers-harriman-in-the-second-world-war.html

I cannot speak any further on official denial, except to say that Brown Brothers Harriman profited directly off of Nazi slave labor in the concentration camp system.

Public relations in the face of outstanding fact?

I call that desperation.

13 hours ago, Robert Burrows said:

Perhaps the sort of sort of extra-national, military, intelligence, and corporate capitalist network- that is portrayed in the Netflix series American Conspiracies: The Octopus Murders.

 

The persons behind the PROMIS software scandal & Cabazon Arms were the exact same network of goons that murdered President Kennedy!

Once again, I’d like to note that I am in no mood for levity, and I mean what I say.

If you would like to talk about that topic more, send me you questions in a private message.

15 hours ago, Roger Odisio said:

RO:  This is the key to understanding the murder, which is too often ignored as it is considered in isolation.  Once the killers saw how easy it was to get away with--with their control of information and ability to sell a scenario blatantly contradicted by easily known facts--they unleashed a torrent of murders designed to decimate the left opposition.

You can draw a straight line between the Dulles brothers, Cheney and Rumsfeld, to the current neocon ignoramuses currently running the White House.  The good news is the "rules based order", where the US makes and enforces the rules, created by, and a prime object of, the murder, is disintegrating before our eyes.

This is why understanding the murder is so important today.

Amen, couldn’t agree more.

20 hours ago, Chuck Schwartz said:

As Dylan wrote in "Murder Most Foul", "The day that they killed him, someone said to me, "Son
The age of the Antichrist has just only begun",

I’m not ashamed to admit that I teared up when I first heard that song—you could hear the pain in Mr. Dylan’s voice…

1 hour ago, Benjamin Cole said:

why not just a splinter group...that independently planned and executed the deed? 

Every indicator is that a cataclysmic, tidal-shift in liberal social-politics took place, on a global scale, almost immediately after the murder of President Kennedy, that almost exclusively favored the extreme fascist elements of humanity.  

It was, in my opinion, a military coup, that involved domestic & international elements, state & non-state actors, with ranks of personnel in the hundreds, completely non-aligned from any structural organization, but instead were representational of personal social networks.

And it was highly compartmentalized.   

9 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said:

 

Robert,

Robert Morrow doesn't believe that JFK was for the murder of Diem... only that he was for the coup.

Nevertheless, I appreciated the way you showed that JFK wasn't for the murder.

 

President Kennedy wanted the Diệm brothers removed from office alive and placed in exile—not murdered.

Big difference.

So yes, I concede that President Kennedy supported a coup of sorts—not a bloodthirsty torture session-turned murder-assassination...

1 hour ago, Robert Morrow said:

Did someone mention E. Howard Hunt?

Yes.

I mentioned E. Howard Hunt.

And since you mentioned that President Kennedy was all for the murder of President Diệm, riddle me this:

If President Kennedy was such a driving force behind that murder, why would E. Howard Hunt (a former deputy to W. Averell Harriman) feel the need to forge documents linking President Kennedy to the murder of President Diệm?!

Read the following articles and be amongst the illuminated:

• https://www.nytimes.com/1973/09/25/archives/hunt-says-he-fabricated-cables-on-diem-to-link-kennedy-to-killing.html

• https://www.nytimes.com/1973/05/08/archives/hunt-says-colson-ordered-in-diem-death-hunt-says-colson-ordered-for.html

• http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/White Materials Original/Watergate/Watergate Items 06520 to 06702/Watergate 06683.pdf

• https://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,907984-2,00.html

And in case you need to hear it from the horse's mouth:

Seems to me that E. Howard Hunt admitted to fabricating all of the cables that demonstrated President Kennedy had anything to do with the murder of President Diệm...

...you know, Mr. Morrow, that same E. Howard Hunt that worked as a covert action officer for W. Averell Harriman in the ZRCANDY program.

That same W. Averell Harriman, who was the actual author of DEPTEL 243.

Sure as Hell seems like E. Howard Hunt was covering his old boss' ass.

1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said:

Another name on the list I was surprised at I mentioned in the original thread was Dr. William Joseph Bryan.  I still wonder how he might be connected to the JFKA but am not surprised that he could have been.

William Joseph Bryan was a Project ARTICHOKE torturer for the Department of Defense and was one of the original Project MKUltra officers for the CIA.

Remember, some of the names on this list represent persons who paved the way for the events of Dallas...

1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said:

I don't remember the name of Dr. Jolyon West on the list.

The devious Dr. West is on the list.