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  1. JFK researcher Shirley Martin’s letter (5-20-1967) to Jim Garrison regarding Hugh Aynesworth who said he had sex with Marina Oswald http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/A Disk/Aynesworth Hugh/Item 01.pdf Here is the text of the Shirley Martin letter to Jim Garrison: May 20, 1967 Dear Mr. Garrison: I am so sorry that Newsweek chose Hugh Aynesworth to use in its rebuttal of you. In the summer of ‘64 I had a long talk with Mr. Aynesworth, introducing myself to him as a friend of a relative to General Clyde Watts, ex-Major General Edwin A. Walker's close friend and attorney (Oxford). Mr. Aynesworth mistakenly assumed that I was a political conservative and immediately deluged me with disgusting anti-Kennedy stories. ("Kennedy needed a trip to Dallas like a hole in the head," etc.) At the same time Mr. Aynesworth heaped what seemed to me to be inordinate praise on the city of Dallas, the Dallas police (Lt. George Butler, Captain Fritz, Chief Curry, etc.), and the Dallas Morning News (for which newspaper Aynesworth was working at the time). He confided, too, that Tom Buchanan (Paris) was a "fairy" and detailed for me a number of extremely slanderous alleged incidents in the life of Mark Lane. In addition, Mr. Aynesworth definitively labeled Mr. Lane a "communist." Aynesworth was extremely bitter that Merriman Smith had won the Pulitzer for his coverage of the assassination. Aynesworth sarcastically remarked that Smith "did nothing and saw less" on the day in question, whereas he, Aynesworth was "...the only reporter in America to make all four big scenes." (1) In addition, Aynesworth boasted that a Commission attorney had already confided to him (in July) what the Commission verdict was to be (in September). Oswald would be named, but according to Aynesworth it was in reality "...a communist plot. Warren will do a cover-up for Moscow." Aynesworth insisted that Marina had had an affair with him after the assassination, and that during this period she had revealed to him that she and Ruth Paine had shared a Lesbian relationship prior to November 22, 1963. Aynesworth also declared that he had been on 10th Street "looking down on the Tippit murder scene at 1:05pm, not later than 1:10..." on November 22nd. (2) Needless to say, the "only reporter in America" to be in on all four "big scenes" was NOT called to testify before the Warren Commission, which did, however, call Thayer Waldo, Fort Worth reporter, because he had been in the police basement when Ruby shot Oswald. (3) Finally, I have the statement by an employee of the Dallas Morning News that Aynesworth was deliberately and ILLEGALLY given the allegedly stolen Oswald diary story by a Commission attorney who was in Dallas on business at that time. Earl Warren later put the FBI on the trail of this illegal "leak", but as was to be expected no discoveries were made. This, then, is the man chosen by Newsweek to rebut you. What a pity Newsweek's taste is so concentrated in its tail. - Sincerely, (Mrs.) Shirley Martin Box 226 Owasso, Oklahoma cc: 10 1 Dealey Plaza, 10th Street, Texas Theatre, Dallas police basement. 2 Thus negating the Commission claim that Oswald. shot both Kennedy and Tippit. 3 Waldo's testimony is pertinent in regard to Lt. Butler (not called by Commission.)
  2. I have a blog post about Hugh Aynesworth from July 29, 2023: Robert Morrow Political Research Blog: April, 1967 - Lyndon Johnson was telling his Chief of Staff Marvin Watson that the CIA murdered JFK at the very time CIA media asset Hugh Aynesworth was preparing his hit piece on Jim Garrison of New Orleans! Hopefully, this will be useful to someone.
  3. I want to say - AGAIN - that there are many conclusions that Sean Fetter makes in his book Under Cover of Night that I do not agree with. I have known Fetter for about 12 years over the phone and have found him to be an honest and intelligent JFK assassination researcher - which does not make him right on everything. Fetter's thesis is that Lyndon Johnson teamed up with the Secret Service and the Air Force to murder JFK with LBJ and Sam Rayborn as the originators of the plot to murder JFK. Sean Fetter has done a massive amount of primary research on the JFK assassination for 40 years and has interviewed people who were never interviewed before and Fetter has come up with some amazing material. You can pick and choose what you think is most credible. I highly encourage people to get Sean Fetter's book Under Cover of Night, both volumes. As for the GUNPOWDER "nose witnesses" Fred Newcombe did a great job of listing them and this is yet another proof of a shooter or shooters from the Grassy Knoll; from Newcombe's Murder From Within: QUOTE ***Motorcycle escort officer Billy J. Martin, riding one-half car length from the left rear fender of the Presidential limousine, recalled, “You could smell the gunpowder… you knew he wasn’t far away. When you’re that close, you can smell the powder burning. Why you—you’ve got to be pretty close to them… you could smell the gunpowder… right there in the street.”63 (Figure 3-7) “Nose” witnesses Sen. Ralph Yarborough rode in the second car behind the limousine. He smelled gunpowder in the street64 and said it clung to the car throughout the race to Parkland Hospital.65 He later commented, “. . . you don’t smell gunpowder unless you’re shooting at something up wind and it blows it back in your face…”65-a As noted, the motorcade headed into a breeze—photographs show bystanders’ skirts billowing in the wind. At Parkland Hospital Yarborough told reporters “the third shot may have been a Secret Service man returning fire”.65-b Two cars behind Yarborough was the Cabell car. Elizabeth Cabell said she “. . . was acutely aware of the odor of gunpowder.”66 She added Congressman Ray Roberts, seated next to her, had mentioned it also.67 According to press photographer Tom C. Dillard, two cars behind the Cabell car, he “. . . very definitely smelled gunpowder when the cars moved up to the corner [of Elm and Houston Streets].”68 Bystander Virgie Rackley stood in front of the depository building close to the street. “She recalled that after the second shot, she smelled gunsmoke…”69 At the time of the shots, patrolman Joe M. Smith moved from the intersection of Elm and Houston Streets toward the triple underpass.70 Patrolman Earle V. Brown, stationed 100 yards west of the underpass, heard the shots and then smelled gunpowder as the car sped beneath him.71 A police officer who was on the sixth floor of the depository shortly after the shooting failed to smell any gunpowder there.72 One newspaper summed it up: “. . . seconds later the cavalcade was gone. The area still reeked with the smell of gunpowder.”73 Shots from the sixth floor of the depository building would have caused no gunpowder smell in the street. *** UNQUOTE Fred T. Newcomb and Perry Adams (2011-11-03). Murder From Within: Lyndon Johnson's Plot against President Kennedy (Kindle Locations 1376-1377). AuthorHouse. Kindle Edition.
  4. Let's fast forward to June 8, 1967. Lyndon Johnson, completely beholden to Zionist interests and in cahoots with Israel, tried to sink an American ship, the USS Liberty and murder everyone on board, so that the heinous crime could be blamed on Egypt so the USA would have a pretext to enter the Six Day War and bomb Nasser out of power. Nuclear war was avoided by about 5 minutes when LBJ and McNamara got on the military phone called back nuclear loaded planes that were headed to Cairo. https://web.archive.org/web/20140704030539/http:/judymorrisreport.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-most-incredible-story-never-told.html "Sacrificing Liberty" is a very good documentary on this topic: https://www.sacrificingliberty.com/
  5. I don't think that the 4 shells that were actually found at 10th and Patton came from Oswald's gun. And even if they DID come from Oswald's gun, so what? They would have obviously been planted into the evidence by the super corrupt Dallas police who were under the political control of LBJ's Dallas business elite who hated John Kennedy and were involved in the JFK assassination. The Dallas police were used to frame Oswald starting at 12:44 PM when the Dallas Police Dispatcher began spewing out a suspect description of "5 feet 10 inches, 165 pounds." It has been proven, beyond a shadow of doubt that the Dallas Police Dept. was immediately involved in framing completely innocent CIA patsy Lee Harvey Oswald for the JFK assassination. Therefore any "evidence" produced by the Dallas police has a high likelihood of being fabricated and includes their warped and massaged interviews of witnesses. The proof is the Dallas Police Dispatcher was immediately and repeatedly telling all Dallas police to be on the look out for a suspect with a rifle at the corner of Elm and Houston street and this "suspect" (really a pre-selected CIA patsy) was supposedly "5 feet 10 inches, 165 pounds." I have a blog post on this topic: https://robertmorrowpoliticalresearchblog.blogspot.com/2023/01/5-feet-10-inches-165-pounds-is-absolute.html Whoever was manipulating the Dallas Police Dept. into framing Lee Harvey Oswald got that precise description of Oswald from his mother Marguerite Oswald who told Dallas FBI agent John Fain in May of 1960 that her son was "5 feet 10 inches, 165 pounds. The DPD was using Marguerite's own words to frame her son Lee Harvey Oswald! Dallas FBI agent John W. Fain wrote up this physical description of Oswald in an FBI report dated 5/12/60 – This description was given by Marguerite Oswald and is located on page 145 out of 206 pages of Oswald’s 201 file: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95569#relPageId=145 In this FBI report Marguerite Oswald describes her son Lee as “five feet 10 inches, 165 pounds.” The 5/12/1960 FBI report was written up by Dallas FBI agent John W. Fain: https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=95569#relPageId=139 A 12/05/1961 Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) document repeats the physical description of Oswald being “light brown” hair, blue eyes and 5 feet 10 inches, 165 pounds. Description is on page 76 out of 112 pages in this file: http://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=110676&relPageId=76&search=Fysa A 10/10/1963 CIA document by C. Bustos (6 weeks before the JFK assassination) described Oswald as “FIVE FEET TEN INCHES, ONE HUNDRED SIXTY FIVE POUNDS, LIGHT BROWN WAVY HAIR, BLUE EYES” https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=110013#relPageId=2 – Oswald physical description is page 2 of the 4 page document.
  6. Sure. Here is one, Sean Fetter interviewed Jan Amos (now deceased) of Dallas extensively. She was the wife of Col. William Amos who was the right hand man of Gen. Joseph J. Cappucci, the head of Air Force counterintelligence - a very high up job. Gen. Cappucci in a very matter of fact way told Jan and her husband Col. William Amos that Lyndon Johnson killed JFK. Gen. Cappucci told the Amos' this at a party/dinner in Rome after Ted Kennedy was involved in his fatal accident at Chappaquiddick in July of 1969. Gen. Cappucci was a close friend of FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover and here is his bio: https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/107495/brigadier-general-joseph-j-cappucci/ Jan Amos also gave an oral history for Sixth Floor Museum. I also interviewed her at her apartment before she passed away (sorry for the video quality, the sound quality should be fine)(Fetter interviewed Jan in November, 2014; I interviewed her on 7/31/2014.): I should add that over 40 years, Sean Fetter interviewed quite an impressive list of people with ties to the JFK assassination, the Air Force, JFK or Lyndon Johnson. Sean Fetter's thesis is that Lyndon Johnson micromanaged the JFK assassination and that he teamed up with the Air Force to murder JFK and also the Secret Service was involved in killing JFK. Sean Fetter believes - and I do not - that Lyndon Johnson and Sam Rayburn were planning as early as 1956 to get LBJ put on the Demo ticket as a Vice President and then murder the Democrat at the top of the ticket. I don't believe that at all, but I do believe that LBJ and Sam Rayburn both used a heavy dose of last-minute sexual blackmail to force JFK to put Lyndon Johnson on the 1960 Democratic ticket. I believe that firmly and I also believe that Lyndon Johnson was planning to murder JFK from the moment he accepted the Democratic nomination for VP and certainly the moment he was elected VP of the United States in November, 1960.
  7. Sen. Richard Schweiker believed that Oswald was connected to one of the U.S. intelligence communities http://michaelgriffith1.tripod.com/hasty.htm "I personally believe that he [Oswald] had a special relationship with one of the intelligence agencies, which one I'm not certain. But all the fingerprints I found during my eighteen months on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence point to Oswald as being a product of, and interacting with, the intelligence community" Sen. Richard Schweiker on Face the Nation in 1976 on the Machine gun riddled Warren Report: “I think that the report, to those who have studied it closely, has collapsed like a house of cards, and I think the people who read it in the long-run future will see that. I frankly believe that we have shown that the [investigation of the] John F. Kennedy assassination was snuffed out before it even began, and that the fatal mistake the Warren Commission made was not to use its own investigators, but instead to rely on the CIA and FBI personnel, which played directly into the hands of senior intelligence officials who directed the cover-up.” Marie Fonzi, 8-5-15: See p.157 of The Last Investigation to read where it was Senator Schweiker who first suggested to Gaeton that the sketch drawn from Veciana’s description looked like David Atlee Phillips, who had appeared before the Church Committee. Web link: http://jfkfacts.org/assassination/news/richard-schweiker-republican-critic-of-jfk-assassination-probe-dies-at-89/#comment-784194 Jim DiEugenio (8-7-15) on Sen. Richard Schweiker: https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?15030-Richard-Schweiker “He may have said that [that Castro killed JFK] in public. In private, he thought the CIA killed Kennedy. And he told that to Tanenbaum when he gave him his files.”
  8. November, 2023, William Ramsey interviews Sean Fetter, the author of "Under Cover of Night: The United States Air Force and the Assassination of John F. Kennedy. The interview is one hour long. Sean Fetter started studying the JFK assassination in the fall of 1983 - so he has 40 years of JFK research under his belt. I am enjoying reading Fetter's book currently and, no, I do not agree with all of his conclusions. Fetter focuses on the role of Lyndon Johnson and the Air Force in the JFK assassination.
  9. Billie Sol Estes told IRS investigator Walt Perry in 1963 that he had given $10 million in kickbacks to Lyndon Johnson [Gus Russo, Live By the Sword: The Secret War Against Castro and the Death of JFK, p. 283]: QUOTE Walt Perry, an investigator for the Internal Revenue Service at the time, says that Bobby Kennedy was attempting to use Johnson’s legal problems as leverage, should Johnson not agree to leave the ticket voluntarily. Perry was brought in by Willam Webster (later to become the FBI director) to assist in the Billie Sol Estes investigation. He befriended Estes, who, in the course of things, told Perry that he had funneled $10 million in bribes to Johnson. He also related in an anecdote about Bobby Kennedy. Perry recalls, “Estes told me that in 1963, Bobby Kennedy contacted him in prison. Bobby made him an offer, saying, ‘If you testify against Johnson, you’re out [of prison].’ Billie declined the offer, saying, ‘If I testified against him, I’d be dead within twenty-four hours.’” UNQUOTE [Gus Russo, Live By the Sword: The Secret War Against Castro and the Death of JFK, p.283] Gus Russo footnotes on p. 561 of his book that he interviewed Walt Perry on June 6, 1992. $10 million in 1960 dollars would equal $104 million in 2023 dollars: http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/ In 1961 U.S. Agricultural official Henry Marshall was investigating Billie Sol Estes, which really means he was investigating Lyndon Johnson. LBJ, response, had Henry Marshall murdered on June 3, 1961. https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKmarshallH.htm J. Edgar Hoover on Henry Marshall killing: “I just can’t understand how one can fire five shots at himself.” Did LBJ order the killing of Henry Marshall? - JFK Assassination Debate - The Education Forum (ipbhost.com) J. Raymond Carroll said: John Simkin said: Even J. Edgar Hoover was not impressed with this theory. He wrote on 21st May, 1962: "I just can't understand how one can fire five shots at himself." John, can you please give the source for this quotation from Hoover? It appeared on a memo from Hoover to Tommy G. McWilliams. It was quoted on page 14 of an article entitled "The Killing of Henry Marshall" by Bill Adler that appeared in The Texas Observer (7th November, 1986).
  10. Thank you. I now have Sean Fetter's book, both Volumes I and II. There are many things in this book that I disagree with (such as all shots to JFK came from the front) and in the middle of all that is blockbuster new primary research on the JFK assassination that has never been made public before. Additionally, there are valuable insights on the JFK assassination that I have never seen before and that I find meaningful. Sean Fetter's thesis is that Lyndon Johnson micromanaged the JFK assassination and cover up, which I agree with and that there was also the involvement of the Secret Service and the Air Force and the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the JFK assassination. I consider Sean Fetter's book Under Cover of Night: The United States Air Force and the Assassination of John F. Kennedy to be a must buy and must read for new primary research on the JFK assassination. I say that with full knowledge that there are many things in this book that I disagree with and that others will disagree with. The key is to find and accept the gold nuggets in any valuable book on the JFK assassination and leave the rest behind. In Volume II, Sean Fetter has an excellent interview with Jan Amos on how Air Force General Joseph J. Cappucci had told her and her husband Col. William Amos in a sincere, matter-of-fact manner that Lyndon Johnson murdered JFK. Gen. Cappucci was the Air Force's head of Counterintelligence and was a close friend of FBI chief J. Edgar Hoover. Gen. Cappucci made these statements indicting LBJ in 1969 after Sen. Ted Kennedy's fiasco at Chappaquiddick. After ordering Sean Fetter's book, it might take 3 or 4 weeks before the nicely done hardcover addition gets to you, so be prepared to wait a tad.
  11. Unlike LBJ who was immediately blaming a “communist” for the JFK assassination at 1:20 - 1:26PM long before Oswald's arrest (see Malcolm Kilduff), Richard Nixon’s first comments were that a “right-wing nut” had killed JFK QUOTE Although Lee Harvey Oswald would not be charged with the president’s murder until 2:30 the following morning, J. Edgar Hoover had already decided that Oswald was guilty. Late that afternoon former Vice-President Richard Nixon had called the FBI director and, getting right through, had asked, “What happened? Was it one of the right-wing nuts?” “No,” Hoover replied, “It was a Communist.” UNQUOTE [Curt Gentry, J. Edgar Hoover: The Man and the Secrets, p. 542]
  12. Richard Nixon, on 11-22-63, at Idlewood Airport in New York, to reporters and photographers, just before he finds out JFK has been shot in Dallas: “The President may have to drop Johnson as his running mate. In the fight for civil rights, Lyndon Johnson has become a liability to the ticket. He may be more of a hindrance than an asset.” [Jim Bishop, The Day Kennedy was Shot, 1968 edition, pp. 178-179] Note that by Wednesday of the next week, on November 27, 1963, Lyndon Johnson addressed the nation and came out forcefully for civil rights for black Americans.
  13. One of JFK's early "affirmative active" moves was to insist that Abraham Bolden, a black Secret Service agent based in Chicago, be moved to Washington, D.C. and be the first black Secret Service agent ever assigned to the White House. Bolden arrived in June, 1961 and last for a month until he asked to be transferred back to Chicago. While serving and protecting President Kennedy, agent Abraham Bolden witnessed a frightening and VOLCANIC ARGUMENT on June 29, 1961 (after regular working hours, early evening) between the John and Robert Kennedy vs. Lyndon Johnson. Lyndon Johnson's behavior was so vicious and so over-the-top that Bolden reported to his Secret Service superiors that Lyndon Johnson was a THREAT TO THE LIFE OF JOHN KENNEDY. Abraham Bolden has been interviewed multiple times about this in the past two years, but privately he has told this story to his close friends for many years. Here is Andrew Kreig's interview of Bolden on this topic; go to the 22 minute mark: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz6KsqPhEEI
  14. What four bullet shells were found at 10th and Patten? I have a question for you: who found these shells? Was it the DALLAS POLICE DEPT? And did they really match Oswald's revolver? Well so what if they did because the DALLAS POLICE DEPT was on the frame up of Oswald for the JFK assassination from the very beginning. Are you telling me the very sketchy DALLAS POLICE DEPT. found these 4 shells? Do you consider the DALLAS POLICE DEPT a credible source on ANYTHING related to the JFK assassination or the murder of Officer J.D. Tippit? It has been proven that the DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT was part of the immediate framing of completely innocent CIA patsy Lee Harvey Oswald. We know to a point of 100% certainty that the DALLAS POLICE DEPT was involved in the immediate framing of Oswald for the JFK assassination because the DALLAS POLICE DEPT starting at 12:44PM began using Marguerite Oswald's physical description of her son Oswald that she gave to Dallas FBI agent John Fain in May of 1960: "5 feet 10 inches, 165 pounds." The DALLAS POLICE DEPT dispatcher said to be on the look out for a suspect with a rifle at the corner of Elm and Houston Street and he is "5 feet 10 inches, 165 pounds." The description of Oswald as "5 feet 10 inches, 165 pounds" also appears in a CIA document created on 10/10/1963, the month before the JFK assassination and also in an INS document created well before the JFK assassination. The DALLAS POLICE DEPT gave out this description 5 times within 24 minutes. Therefore, it has been PROVEN that the DALLAS POLICE DEPT was framing Oswald beginning at 12:44PM on 11-22-1963 and they were using the words of Marguerite Oswald in 1960 to do it. So if any shells at the Tippit scene "match" the revolver of Oswald, they were obviously planted into evidence well after Tippit was murdered as the DALLAS POLICE DEPT tried to frame Lee Harvey Oswald for the Tippit murder just as they were trying to frame Oswald for the JFK assassination. Absolute Proof Lee Harvey Oswald was a *pre-selected patsy* for the JFK assassination: “5 feet 10 inches, 165 pounds” https://robertmorrowpoliticalresearchblog.blogspot.com/2023/01/5-feet-10-inches-165-pounds-is-absolute.html Dallas Police Dispatcher was immediately using Marguerite Oswald’s description of Lee given to Dallas FBI in May, 1960
  15. Here is another good one: Jeremy Kuzmarov’s scholarly article for Covert Action Magazine which indicts LBJ for the JFK assassination https://covertactionmagazine.com/2023/11/22/60-years-after-jfks-death-it-is-more-and-more-apparent-that-kennedy-was-a-victim-of-a-palace-coup-spearheaded-by-vice-president-lyndon-b-johnson/
  16. I recommend any issue of Garrison magazine, a place where I find much useful information. At the same time I find myself disagreeing with many items and points of view in Garrison magazine, which is a small price to pay for the other great material that is in there. One may term Garrison magazine as "thought provoking" and I recommend it to others. RM
  17. I heard about it from Joachim Joesten who in my "opinion" is and was the greatest JFK assassination researcher of all time. Arthur Schlesinger once told William Manchester that his book Death of a President sent a subliminal message that Lyndon Johnson murdered John Kennedy. Jackie Kennedy sued Manchester and made him remove hundreds of pages of his original manuscript with much of the material unfavorable to LBJ. The Kennedys were not ready to take on LBJ in the court of public opinion in a direct manner. Read the Dark Side of Lyndon Johnson by Joachim Joesten which has now been republished. http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Side-Lyndon-Baines-Johnson/dp/1771520094/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366385131&sr=8-1&keywords=the+dark+side+of+lyndon+johnson Joesten: QUOTE William Manchester came closer than most other people to seeing through the benign public relations mask of Lyndon Johnson, but one wouldn't know it from scanning the pages of 'The Death of a President'. If there are two persons in the world who have really come to know Johnson at close quarters, outside of his own family, they are Robert and Jacqueline Kennedy. Manchester interviewed both of them at length and they told him, without mincing their words, what they thought of That Man in the White House. But when Manchester, having faithfully recorded everything the Kennedys had told him, rushed into print with his story, years ahead of schedule, they both got panicky and practically forced him to 'revise' his story out of recognition. Edward J. Epstein, the author of Inquest, somehow managed to get hold of a copy of the original, unedited manuscript of the Manchester book, then entitled 'Death of a Lancer', and revealed in the July issue 1967 of Commentary, some of its contents. In his original draft, Manchester, it seems, made some very pungent remarks about Lyndon Johnson whom he described, among other things, as a 'chameleon who constantly changes loyalties'; 'a capon' and 'a crafty schemer who has a gaunt, hunted look about him'. He also pictured Johnson as 'a full-fledged hypomaniac' and 'the crafty seducer with six nimble hands who can persuade a woman to surrender her favors in the course of a long conversation confined to obscure words. No woman, even a lady, can discern his intentions until the critical moment'. By far the most interesting aspect of this matter, however, is Epstein's contention that Manchester's original theme, which gave unity to his book, was 'the notion that Johnson, the successor, was somehow responsible for the death-of his predecessor'. Several quotations from the original draft bear out this contention. At one point, the Lancer version states, 'The shattering fact of the assassination is that a Texas murder has made a Texan President'. At another, Kenneth O'Donnell, Kennedy's appointments secretary, is quoted as exclaiming 'They did it. I always knew they'd do it. You couldn't expect anything else from them. They finally made it'. Then Manchester comments: 'He didn't specify who "they" were. It was unnecessary. They were Texans, Johnsonians'. But what is one to think of an author who allows his most important work not only to be castrated, but to be turned completely upside down by a publisher more committed to the dictates of expediency than to the search for historical truth? UNQUOTE [Joachim Joesten, The Dark Side of Lyndon Johnson, p. ??]
  18. In my "opinion," Lyndon Johnson was indeed the Mastermind of the JFK assassination, also known as the top of the pyramid of the JFK assassination plotters. The reason for this is that the Kennedys, in real time in November of 1963 were out to utterly destroy Lyndon Johnson and not merely "remove" LBJ from the 1964 Democratic ticket. LBJ top aide Horace Busby: Lyndon Johnson was acutely aware by Nov. 4, 1963 that the Kennedys had sent a SWAT team of over **FORTY** national reporters to Texas to utterly destroy him: https://robertmorrowpoliticalresearchblog.blogspot.com/2020/07/lyndon-johnson-was-acutely-aware-by-nov.html Now to be precisely fair, Horace Busby does use the name "Kennedys" when talking about who was orchestrating the "destroy LBJ with the national media" campaign, but I think it is very reasonable to read Busby's book and conclude that the Kennedys, with JFK letting Robert Kennedy being the point man, were trying to politically and personally destroy the hated Lyndon Johnson in November of 1963. There was also a Senate Rules Committee investigation into LBJ that the Kennedys were fomenting in a parallel track to destroy Johnson (see Seymour Hersh interview of Burkett van Kirk in the Dark Side of Camelot). Lyndon Johnson murdered JFK in a defensive move, although I actually think LBJ was plotting to murder JFK as early as the 1960 Democratic convention (if the Democrats were to win the 1960 general election). I do not think LBJ murdered JFK because he had always "lusted" to be president; rather the Kennedys were imminently about to drop a hydrogen bomb of humiliation on LBJ's head. Again, that is my "opinion."
  19. Pat Speer, would you mind posting the Evelyn Letter you have? I want to add that to my files on the JFK assassination. Thank you.
  20. Sean Coleman: please let me give you my "opinion:" I am 99% sure that Gen. Edward Lansdale was up to his bloody eyeballs in the JFK assassination. Lansdale did this because he was enraged that his pal Diem had been overthrown in a Kennedy-endorsed coup and then murdered (which Kennedy did not approve of). Secondly, Lansdale after 10 years thought he had a proprietary interest in running Vietnam policy and on October 31, 1963 he had pretty much been kicked out of the military by the Kennedy Administration. Then with all these same people in the Kennedy Administration who hated Lansdale (McNamara, McGeorge Bundy, Dean Rusk) still being present, Lyndon Johnson immediately resurrects the career of Gen. Edward Lansdale and sends him to Vietnam by 1965. Lyndon Johnson would be reviving Lansdale as "payback" for participation in the JFK assassination.
  21. Sandy, a big reason that the Kennedy family went to war with William Manchester because Manchester, relying on the Kennedys and their aides, wrote about Lyndon Johnson's atrocious behavior on Air Force One in the aftermath of the JFK assassination. With Robert Kennedy having political ambitions, the Kennedys felt if this were revealed while LBJ was president it would backfire on the Kennedys and make them look like selfish sore losers in contrast to LBJ. All this material ultimately got censored from Manchester's book Death of a President at the insistence of the Kennedys. And while LBJ and his aides were drinking and making a happy noise on Air Force One, the LBJ people on Air Force Two were partying like it was 1999. The reason for this is all the LBJ and Kennedy political insiders knew about the toxic "about to end" relationship between the Kennedys and LBJ. Sue Mortensen was the JFK staffer who was on Air Force Two on the plane ride back from Dallas who witnessed the LBJ people being “happy” at the death of JFK and the installation of LBJ as president. 1) https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/29142-interesting-jfk-press-staff-member-story-on-antique-roadshow/ 2) https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/stories/articles/2016/01/11/john-f-kennedy-documents-interview JFK Staffer Shares Administration Stories POSTED 1.11.2016 BY Luke Crafton Hear more from the Spokane guest who brought her fascinating collection of mementos from her years serving as a press aide to President John F. Kennedy, and see a slideshow of draft speeches and other documents she kept from her time in the White House. In 1958 Sue Mortensen was a bright young lady fresh out of college when she landed a job working for Sen. John F. Kennedy’s nascent presidential campaign. This experience catapulted her a few short years later into the Kennedy White House, serving as a staff assistant under the president’s press secretary, Pierre Salinger. She worked closely and intensely with Kennedy during his brief time in office, helping with the drafting and revision of numerous speeches — a process that in that pre-laptop era still produced mountains of paper. And she was part of the president’s entourage on the fateful campaign trip to Dallas in late November 1963. Sue brought a personal archive of her mementos from the time she spent serving the president to the Spokane ROADSHOW in June 2015, sharing it and her fascinating story with appraiser Martin Gammon, who appraised the collection for between $60,000 and $80,000. This slideshow gives an up-close view of some of Sue’s most interesting keepsakes from her time in the West Wing, including a photograph with the president in a ceremony aboard the U.S.S. Oriskany; a copy of the presidential schedule for November 22, 1963; and a number of typescript works-in-progress that offer vivid and intriguing glimpses of JFK's thinking during the intense and continual process of drafting presidential speeches — as well as of his awful handwriting. In the accompanying video Sue also tells us more about her personal recollections of JFK, and her own poignant experience of one of the most shocking tragedies in American political history. Jeff Meek interview with Kennedy aide Sue Vogelsinger: Texas congressmen were making no bones about it that the JFK assassination was good and it was LBJ who they wanted to be president anyhow. (Jeff emailed this to me on 9/6/2022) https://www.hsvvoice.com/stories/vogelsinger-remembers-days-in-the-kennedy-administration,6153 [“Vogelsinger remembers days in Kennedy administration,” Jeff Meek, Hot Springs Village Voice, April 13, 2021] The JFK Files #7 1-From left: In Paris, President John F. Kennedy’s press secretary Pierre Salinger visits with Sue Vogelsinger (Vogelsinger submitted photo) Vogelsinger remembers days in the Kennedy administration By JEFF MEEK Recently I had the opportunity to interview Sue Vogelsinger who worked closely with President John F. Kennedy in the White House and on trips all over the globe, including Dallas on Nov. 22, 1963. Vogelsinger was born in Iowa but grew up in the Washington, D.C. area. She attended Penn State University where she received a degree in home economics. During her schooling she learned shorthand which, as you will see, turned out to be a very good idea. After graduation her parents helped by buying her a car. “My plan had been to go to San Francisco with a friend of mine from college so I needed to get a job (to pay back her parents),” Vogelsinger said. She found work in the office of Florida Senator Spesserd Holland in 1958. The job was short-lived, just long enough to work during Holland’s Senate campaign. “I ended up in Bartow, Florida, out in the middle of nowhere.” Thereafter she came back to D.C. and was told that John Kennedy’s campaign was hiring. Vogelsinger looked into it, interviewed, and was hired in Nov. 1958. Her first job was a typing up index cards about the people Kennedy and his staff had met on trips, people who might be potential supporters. “It was horrendously boring and I was about to quit. This is not what I wanted to do. But somebody apparently had told the Senator that and he called me in one day and said I hear you’re planning to leave. I said I am and he said what’s wrong, what can I do to make you stay?” Vogelsinger said. She told Kennedy the job was boring and he said he’d see what he could do. “The next day I was assigned to the legislative staff which meant I got to do some research and original kind of work. It was very interesting.” She was sent to West Virginia for that state’s primary and was there for a month. Then she returned to D.C. and worked with JFK’s campaign staff in 1960. Vogelsinger was asked if she’d like to stay working with Ted Sorensen and Mike Feldman or with newly hired Press Secretary Pierre Salinger. She asked with whom she would see more travel, which was Salinger, so she took that offer. I asked Vogelsinger what Kennedy was like. “He was the most exciting person in the world to be around. I worked closely with him a lot. He was so charismatic. He was funny as he could be and so smart it was mind-boggling really, curious about people and things. He was a very special person,” Vogelsinger said. She worked on election night 1960 as the results trickled in. The day after the election and the Kennedy victory, Vogelsinger decided to stay on the staff. She, Salinger and others spent the next many weeks at what was called the Palm Beach White House, then returned to D. C. in January. Vogelsinger went with Kennedy and staff on all overseas trips and was there when Kennedy gave his famous “Ich Bin Ein Berliner” speech in Germany, in Ireland as Kennedy looked over his home country and elsewhere like Canada, South America. Her job was to work on speeches and other communications as well as dealing with the press out of a press pool office. Answering questions, handing out information and the like kept her very busy. About Jackie Kennedy, Vogelsinger said she was not around her a lot but her impression was that she was funny, sweet, gorgeous and smart. Moving on to the weekend of the assassination she said it was just another campaign trip, but politically dangerous because of Texas politics. “But the work was the same,” she said. She and co-worker Christine Camp stayed busy with all that was required to keep the press up to date on many matters. Landing in Dallas, they saw the trip as nothing out of the ordinary, so they stayed on board Air Force One and did not travel with the motorcade. This gave them time to prepare for the next stop in Austin. “We were working in the president’s office on the plane when a steward came in and said pack up, we have to go. The president’s been shot,” remembers Vogelsinger. “We’ve got to get the plane ready.” Shortly thereafter they were told the president was dead. Camp and Vogelsinger decided to get off Air Force One to make room for others. They were standing on the tarmac when Kennedy’s body arrived back at Love Field. They got on the backup plane carrying reporters, the Texas delegation and off duty Secret Service agents. “The atmosphere on that plane was grim. Some Texas congressmen were making no bones about the fact that it was good and that Johnson was now going to be president and that’s what they wanted all along and that kind of stuff. It was ugly enough that Secret Service agents came up and sat around Chris and me to kind of shield us from all that stuff that was going on. It was awful. We were in a state of shock.” Now back in Washington, D.C. she and others returned to the White House and went to work. “The place was overrun with calls, needless to say, from all over the world who were planning to come to Washington so we had to start dealing with all that to help the best we could. Everyone was still in a state of shock, as were the people who were calling,” said Vogelsinger. November 23 was more of the same, planning and communicating with the press about what would be taking place in terms of a funeral. “It was nonstop.” Many press members wanted to pay their respects so Vogelsinger and others took them to view the casket. “As you know he was very well liked by the press,” she said. Vogelsinger attended the funeral mass at the cathedral. “It was a frantic, horrendously busy, painful, painful time and hard to remember details,” she said. Looking back on it 57-plus years later she said it’s a very surreal experience. “Then I went through it again with Robert Kennedy and it was even more surreal.” Vogelsinger later read about the Warren Commission conclusions and told me the only thing she’s sure of is that Lyndon Johnson did not have anything to do with the assassination. “I do not know what happen, I don’t think we’ll ever know what happened,” she added. It was difficult for her to follow subsequent investigations because “it was just too painful.” Vogelsinger stayed at the White House until April, 1964. Then when Pierre Salinger decided to run for the Senate, she became a part of his staff. Salinger lost the election and she then helped at the Justice Department, answering the many thousands of condolence letters coming into Robert Kennedy about his brother’s death. She also helped with Robert’s election campaign. In June 1968, RFK was assassinated and Vogelsinger was in Washington, part time with the Justice Department, mostly dealing with matters of the JFK presidency. “I got a call in the middle of the night from California telling me what happened. I couldn’t believe it,” Vogelsinger said. As we concluded our interview I asked Vogelsinger to share with me a story about her and President Kennedy. She shared with me a time about a short trip for a fundraiser in New York and then on to Yale University for a major speech. The major speech was written, ready and sent to JFK’s secretary Evelyn Lincoln to give to the President. Late that night she realized there was something wrong with the speech. At that same time Kennedy contacted her saying the same thing. They talked it out and then she began rewriting the speech for him. The next morning on the way to Yale, Kennedy started furiously dictating changes, many of them. Once on the ground she told the Secret Service to get her to Kennedy’s speech location as fast as they can, along with her typewriter and a place to work, because she had all the changes to make. Vogelsinger rode in the motorcade with Arthur Schlesinger to the site. Upon arrival, “the place they found for me was somewhere underneath where he was to speak. So I started working on the speech and literally at one point I’m handing pages of the speech to the Secret Service, who are handing it up to the Secret Service on the platform where the President is speaking. Occasionally when I wasn’t sure of a word, and there was more than one that I wasn’t sure of, I’d circle it so he could figure that it meant I didn’t know what he meant, so figure out something,” she said with a laugh. I could tell Vogelsinger revered her time with the Kennedy’s. I could also tell that remembering the Kennedy assassinations remain very painful for her. You could hear it in her voice, the trauma of it all still real. Sue Vogelsinger on Facebook: (7) Sue Vogelsinger | Facebook Sue Vogelsinger oral history given on May 25, 1964 Vogelsinger, Sue Mortensen_JFK#1 (jfklibrary.org)
  22. We do know one thing for a fact: Doyle Whitehead was an Air Force Steward on Air Force One on the ride back from Dallas on 11-22-1963. We also know that both Jackie Kennedy and Evelyn Lincoln, JFK's secretary of 12 years, on that same airplane IMMEDIATELY suspected Lyndon Johnson of being involved in the JFK assassination. Whitehead says that on the ride back from Dallas Lyndon Johnson drank about half "a fifth of Cutty Sark," which is like drinking about 10 beers in two hours. That is some power drinking right there. I wonder of Lyndon Johnson was nervous about something? During this time period LBJ called up his investment broker and Dallas lawyer Pat Holloway heard him say he needed to sell his "goddamn Halliburton stock" - that is in Russ Baker's book Family of Secrets. Halliburton, the year before had bought out LBJ's longtime sugar daddies and Brown and Root and later KBR made a ton of money off of the Vietnam War.
  23. There are 3 people who knew Gen. Edward Lansdale very intimately who identified him in a photo taken about 5 feet west of the Texas School Book Depository on 11-22-1963: 1) Col. Fletcher Prouty 2) Gen. Victor "Brute" Krulak and 3) Lansdale's second wife (!!) Patrocino Yapcinco Lansdale. Fletcher Prouty gives his insights: http://www.prouty.org/letter.html Here is a 3/14/85 letter by Gen. Victor H. Krulak also identifying Edward Lansdale at the TSBD on 11/22/63: http://www.ratical.com/ratville/JFK/USO/appD.html Here is a web archive of Krulak’s identification of Lansdale: https://web.archive.org/web/20101128210811/http://www.ratical.com/ratville/JFK/USO/appD.html Background material on Gen. Victor Krulak-JFK connection from WWII [“’Brute’ Krulak commemorated,” Steve Liewer, The San Diego Union-Tribune, Jan. 2, 2009, https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sdut-1m9krulak002036-brute-krulak-commemorated-2009jan09-htmlstory.html ] QUOTE Krulak earned the Navy Cross for a 1943 battle in which he promised a young Lt. John F. Kennedy a bottle of whiskey for evacuating some of his men. He delivered on his promise nearly two decades later, when Kennedy was in the White House. Krulak later commanded the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego, a place that would remain close to his heart for the rest of his life. He served his final tour, from 1964 to 1968, as commander of Marine forces in the Pacific. Throughout his career, Krulak's unflinching honesty was legendary. Patrocinio Yapcinco Lansdale, the former wife of Gen. Edward Lansdale, has identified Lansdale in that photo taken at the TSBD on 11-22-63: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiRqNiG19dg – Danny Sheehan, on May 23, 2016, says that Patrocinio Yapcinco Lansdale has definitively identified Lansdale in that photo taken at the TSBD on 11-23-63 Patrocinio Yapcinco Lansdale (3-13-1915 to 11-11-2006) died in 2006 https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Yapcinco-1 : QUOTE "Philippines Marriages, 1723-1957", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:HB3Q-83PZ : 15 February 2020), Patrocinio Yapcinco in entry for Jaime Kelly, 1943. Virginia, Marriage Certificates, 1936-1988," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVBT-VMK5 : 10 January 2019), Edward Geary Lansdale and Patrocinio Matilde Yapcinco Kelly, 04 Jul 1973; from "Virginia, Marriage Records, 1700-1850," database and images, Ancestry (http://www.ancestry.com : 2012); citing Alexandria, , Virginia, United States, certificate 73-030691, Virginia Department of Health, Richmond. UNQUOTE
  24. Fetzer printed Evelyn Lincoln's letter in one of his books. She was responding to someone who asked her about who she thought murdered JFK. Evelyn Lincoln, from the moment of the JFK assassination to the end of her life believed that Lyndon Johnson was involved in the JFK assassination.
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