Lyndon Johnson calls tax lawyer to sell Halliburton stock on day of JFK Assassination

[Guest Robert Morrow]

On the day that JFK was assassinated, the White House was not on a high level national security alert. And that is because Lyndon Johnson, elements of the CIA, and elements of the military knew the assassination was coming and it was not the Russians or Cubans who did it. It was them. Lyndon Johnson, however, did find time to make a call from Parkland Hospital to his tax attorney to sell his Halliburton stock. Btw, Halliburton stock RALLIED over the next 2 days following JFK's assassination. Halliburton and other Texas military contractors (i.e. General Dynamics) were big Lyndon Johnson contributors.

Lyndon Johnson calling his tax lawyer to sell his Halliburton stock on the day

of JFK’s assassination; LBJ makes call from Parkland Hospital; JFK’s body was still warm at this point

[from Family of Secrets by Russ Baker, p. 132]

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Pat Holloway, former attorney to both Poppy Bush and Jack Crichton, recounted to me an incident involving LBJ that had greatly disturbed him. This was around 1PM on November 22, 1963, just as Kennedy was being pronounced dead. Holloway was heading home from the office and was passing through the reception area. The switchboard operator excitedly noted that she was patching the vice president through from Parkland Hospital to Holloway’s boss, firm senior partner Waddy Bullion, who was LBJ’s personal tax lawyer. The operator invited Holloway to listen in. LBJ was talking “not about a conspiracy or a tragedy,” Holloway recalled. “I heard him say: ‘Oh I gotta get rid of my goddamn Halliburton stock.’ Lyndon Johnson was talking about the consequences of his political problems with his Halliburton stock at a time when the president had been officially declared dead. And that pissed me off… It really made me furious.”

There are many other examples of LBJ’s apparent unconcern after the assassination, though none so immediate. For instance, on the evening of November 25, LBJ and Martin Luther King talked, and LBJ said, “It’s just an impossible period – we’ve got a budget coming up.” That morning he told Joseph Alsop that “the President must not inject himself into, uh, local killings,” to which Alsop immediately replied, “I agree with that, but in this case it does happen to be the killing of the President.” Also, on the same day LBJ told Hoover, “We can’t be checking up on every shooting scrape in the country.” UNQUOTE

Edited September 9, 2010 by Robert Morrow

[Peter McGuire]

While I believe that Johnson was a bastard, and got the orders to lay down on this thing , you sure have the ass for him.

I know you cited numerous books to support this.

Any reason , other than the truth in this matter for the full court press?

[Terry Mauro]

While I believe that Johnson was a bastard, and got the orders to lay down on this thing , you sure have the ass for him.

I know you cited numerous books to support this.

Any reason , other than the truth in this matter for the full court press?

LBJ was always worried that he too would be killed. But the idea that LBJ was the mastermind behind Dallas is ridiculous.

[Guest Robert Morrow]

In the fall of 1963, the Kennedys were at WAR with 3 groups: 1) Lyndon Johnson who they were trying to stick a knife in politically for 2 years and who had blackmailed his way onto the ticket in 1960 2) the CIA and military hawks who especially loathed Jack Kennedy over the Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile crisis and Cuba policy in general. They wanted Castro taken out and they also wanted a war in Vietnam 3) the mafia, organized crime Carlos Marcello, Jimmy Hoffa, Santos Trafficante, Sam Giancana. Lyndon Johnson himself was organized crime. Make that a 4th group: Texas oil and the fight to preserve special tax privileges: the lucrative oil depletion allowance. Folks like HL Hunt, a key Lyndon Johnson supporter, considered John Kennedy and enemy and a traitor.

Lyndon Johnson was the cog in the wheel that pulled all these groups together. Lyndon Johnson, just like his friends in the CIA and mafia, had a long history of slaughtering people to have his way; read the book LBJ: Mastermind of JFK assassination by Phillip Nelson: http://www.lbj-themastermind.com/

No, Terry Mauro, LBJ was not in fear of being killed by the great unknown; Lyndon Johnson was in great fear of being DISCOVERED for the master criminal, fraud, murderer and usurper that he was. LBJ was not covering up for "someone else," he was covering up for HIMSELF. That is why he one the one hand was crying about "international conspiracy," but when he got back to the White House there was no high state of military alert. It is why LBJ and Cliff Carter call the Texas people and tell them "no conspiracy charges at all against Oswald." It is why LBJ himself, micromanaging the cover up called Will Fritz himself on Saturday to SHUT DOWN the Dallas police investigation. It is why Hoover of the FBI was done with his fake non-investigation within literally days after the slaughter of the president. It is why Lyndon Johnson made that fantastic call to Dr. Charles Crenshaw at Parkland, trying to force out a confession from the patsy Lee Harvey Oswald.

Lyndon Johnson was the mastermind of the JFK assassination. He may have not been the only mastermind - Allen Dulles comes to mind - but LBJ was a killer not just a "cover upper."

[Bernice Moore]

ROBERT; YOU AND OR OTHERS MAY BE INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO SOME OF THESE DOCUMENTS RELATED TO THE TEXAS INQUIRY THAT WAS SHUT DOWN...FWIW AT M/FS...B

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=954&relPageId=676

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Edited September 9, 2010 by Bernice Moore

[Peter McGuire]

Lyndon Johnson was the mastermind of the JFK assassination. He may have not been the only mastermind - Allen Dulles comes to mind - but LBJ was a killer not just a "cover upper."

Then you are saying that he had the ability to order the Secret Service to do what they did? ( and didn't do )

Because whoever was on top of this thing was able to control the very men charged with the president's safety, and allow him to be pelted with bullets, while they just sat or stood there.

If the Secret Service had been doing there normal job, they would have raced into action - Kellerman would have attempted to get into the back seat area, Greer would have sped away, Agents would not have been called back from Halfback - and this is just what we can see during the shooting.

This is not a theory - these are facts.

I will go just a little further - the overpass would not have been so insecure, nor would have the so called "Grassy Knoll " area, nor would the Dal Tex Building have had any Tom , Dick and Harry sitting there.

Edited September 10, 2010 by Peter McGuire

[Jim Phelps]

One thing to keep in mind with Lyndon Johnson is that he runs deals like the Dept. of Agr. deals to get his rear out of trouble. So always follow the money with LBJ, as that is his power structure and who he has to pay back.

Let me toss out a few little extra details for consideration per LBJ getting in a huge rush to loose his associations with Halliburton.

I'll have to check this out for when Halliburton acquired KBR, but KBR was the biggest contractor in Vietnam for providing construction of their military bases three.

The "Kellogg" of KBR is associated with the biggest building project of the Manhattan Project----that for the K-25 plant for which the plant was code named. "Kellogg" formed a little special group called "Kellex", but same basic company.

So, consider that LBJ is going to have to pay back his deals on getting JFK killed to run up a war, so LBJ cuts his ties with "Halliburton/KBR," so it won't look like he is making himself rich off starting a big War in Vietnam to please all his good buddies over at "KBR/Halliburton".

If, you note almost within the week LBJ went full speed in to Vietnam.

The other thing to keep in mind is that Zapata and the Bush gang were into Cuba because of a big oil field there. So, one of the reasons to go into Vietnam was a huge oil field over there, and before Nixon cut loose from Vietnam TEXACO had all the offshore oil rights tied up for that oil field. Halliburton was a big oil support equipment supplier.

So, LBJ has to cut his strings real soon to begin his pay backs, else he is the next one to get popped.

He wasted no time to start payback.

And the "Kellex/Kellogg/KBR/Halliburton" thing is the Oak Ridge good ole boy network. Halliburton is oil services company that does work for Texaco and all oil companies.

Then don't forget Cheney was the CEO for Halliburton, and they needed a new war for Zionists and for weapons. And the Rustag fire would work because Americans are dumb.

Where did you say that oil pipe went?

http://www.reachingtruth.com/themic.html

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http://projects.publicintegrity.org/wow/bio.aspx?act=pro&ddlC=31

Halliburton discovered the benefits of government patronage when its support for U.S. President Lyndon Johnson resulted in several contracts, such as constructing military bases during the Vietnam War.

Halliburton's name has become nearly synonymous with that of Vice President Dick Cheney. Cheney has spent his entire career in public service, including several positions in Republican cabinets: he filled several positions in President Richard Nixon's administration and served as assistant and chief of staff to President Gerald Ford prior to entering Congress as a representative from Wyoming, where he was elected chairman of both the Republican Policy Committee and House Republican Conference. The first president George Bush hired Cheney as his defense secretary, and in that position Cheney directed America's first offensive in Iraq, the Persian Gulf War of 1991.

Once he had left government, Cheney became CEO of Halliburton in 1995, after impressing a former Halliburton CEO with his knowledge of world affairs on a fishing trip. Cheney nearly doubled Halliburton's U.S. government contracts during his five-year tenure, from $1.2 billion to $2.3 billion. Military contracts accounted for a large part of these, undoubtedly aided by the former Pentagon staffers Cheney brought to Halliburton management. One of those was retired four-star Admiral Joe Lopez, who was an aide during Cheney's tenure as defense secretary, came to KBR in 1999 at Cheney's suggestion and became senior vice president of government operations.

Edited May 17, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Guest Tom Scully]

By your logic, Jim, wouldn't the network of bankers and politicians who had done it all before, dating back to at least 1915, and who were the primary contractors and financial and political benificiaries of K-25, be as least likely suspects as LBJ and his less powerful and well financed, clicque of relative newcomers? It was not LBJ or anyone connected with him who held the office of U.S. president or at least, v.p. during 20 out of the last 31 years. An unprecedented accomplishment, for a single family?

IMO, the argument that the relationship of principals of a Dupont subcontractor of K-25, with LBJ is significant part of the "money trail" related to the assassination plot is quite a reach.

My wife's elderly father, fresh out of an Ivy league grad school, was recruited by Dupont during WWII and assigned the task of developing/perfecting a manufacturing process designed to produce fluorine gas, heretofore produced only in bottle sized quantities, in railroad tanker sized lots.

Fluorine was so corrosive, it tended to eat through any process piping devised since its invention, as was the case with any container the gas was stored in. A particular problem was the damage done by fluorine to any valve it came into contact with, and it had a tendency to react explosively when it came into contact with moisture.

The only compounds impervious to fluorine were fluorinated materials, rare because the first fluorinated compounds were refrigerant gases such as R-12, pantented about 1933 by a Dupont engineer.

Although, I am told, there were five competing uranium refinement processes pursued in the early part of the Manhattan project, there was much pressure on Dupont to solve the obstacles to production of vast amounts of fluorine, it turned out, to supply K-25. The fluorinated compound teflon, was invented by Dupont to coat the all surfaces coming in contact with fluorine during production and storage. Nickle plated surfaces also were discovered, through trial and error, to protect piping from fluorine corrosion, and was used to protect shut off and control valves.

A post war market for the sudden availability of fluorine was created through the political influence of Dupont in convincing municipalities and local water authorities to treat public water supplies with fluoride, even before adequate research was data was obtained about toxicity and side effects.

http://www.padrak.com/alt/BUSHBOOK_2.html

The Bush family's home

at that time was in Greenwich, Connecticut. But it was just then that

George's parents, Prescott and Dorothy Walker Bush, were wintering in a

peculiar spot in Florida, a place that is excluded from mention in

literature originating from Bush circles....

....Let us briefly survey the neighborhood, back then in 1946-48, to see some

of the uses various of the residents had for the Harriman clique.

Residence on Jupiter Island

.../ Note #b|"Walter S. Carpenter, Jr." had been chairman of the finance

committee of the Du Pont Corporation (1930-40). In 1933, Carpenter oversaw

Du Pont's purchase of Remington Arms from Sam Pryor and the Rockefellers,

and led Du Pont into partnership with the Nazi I.G. Farben company for the

manufacture of explosives. Carpenter became Du Pont's president in 1940.

His cartel with the Nazis was broken up by the U.S. government.

Nevertheless, Carpenter remained Du Pont's president, as the company's

technicians participated massively in the Manhattan Project to produce the

first atomic bomb. He was chairman of Du Pont from 1948 to 1962, retaining

high-level access to U.S. strategic activities.

Walter Carpenter and Prescott Bush were fellow activists in the Mental

Hygiene Society. Originating at Yale University in 1908, the movement had

been organized into the World Federation of Mental Health by Montague

Norman, himself a frequen t mental patient, former Brown Brothers partner

and Bank of England Governor. Norman had appointed as the federation's

chairman, Brigadier John Rawlings Rees, director of the Tavistock Clinic,

chief psychiatrist and psychological warfare expert for the British

intelligence services. Prescott was a director of the society in

Connecticut; Carpenter was a director in Delaware.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,813379,00.html

MONOPOLY: No Worries?

Monday, Sep. 25, 1950

When U.S. industry mobilizes for war production, the antitrust laws are among the first casualties. Reason: industrywide production allocations and patent pools, which are taboo in peacetime, are essential for the close integration of industries needed for big-scale war production. Last week came the first sign that antitrust prosecutions would again be eased up—or perhaps shelved completely—as they were during World War II. Lanky, eager Herbert Bergson, 44, the U.S.'s most vigorous trustbuster since the early New Deal days of Thurman Arnold, resigned his job.

In two years as head of the Justice Department's antitrust division, Bergson had filed 135 suits, including those against Aluminum Co. of America, E. I. du Pont de Nemours & Co. and the Great Atlantic & Pacific Tea Co. (TIME, Sept. 26 et seq.). He has won 80 of his cases, lost only seven. The rest, including the big ones, are still pending. But lately there have been hints that Bergson would have less & less to do. One hint: When the Government decided to build the hydrogen bomb, it handed the big job to Du Pont.

Washington no longer seemed to be worried that Du Pont, which the trustbusters had said was too big, would have to grow much

bigger to build the bomb.

http://www.ctpost.com/news/article/GE-plans-to-dismantle-massive-East-Side-complex-419380.php

....The complex was constructed by Remington Arms over a 12-month period beginning in 1915 to manufacture weapons during World War I, and among the customers were foreign armies. The work force topped 20,000....

[Jim Phelps]

Mr. Scully,

I have real trouble following your associative logic, perhaps because you don't know the history of fluorine chemistry and its later Manhattan Project issues. I am here suggesting that Mr. Morrow follow some leads on LBJ. The K-25 plant was never designed for uranium "refinement" , as it was designed for only isotopic enrichement with UF-6 and your termanology choice is none too good. "Refining" is generally a term reserved for taking uranium ore, purification of U-oxides to metal form, generally akin to milling. This shows lack of process understanding. Once the chemistry moves into UF-6, it is enrichement.

If you really want to get into Dupont, then consider they had considerable holdings in Cuba, that were lost as Castro came in to nationalize everything. The DuPonts held a great estate down there called "Xanadu."

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http://www.ehow.com/about_5297443_varadero-cuba-information.html

Tourists began to visit Varadero in the 1870s. It became an elite resort town for those that could afford it over the next 60 years. The popularity of this town skyrocketed when American millionaire Iréné Dupont constructed his estate with a lavish mansion in Varadero. Dupont was a prominent businessman who brought class and fame to the area. Many notable figures would follow his lead and build homes at Varadero for vacationing, including the infamous gangster Al Capone and former Cuban president Batista.

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http://groups.google.com/group/Cuba451Letters/web/history-of-u-s-interference-in-cuba?pli=1

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1917: Workers call a general strike and the US Marines return for a six-year stay.

Americans hold sway over the economy through control of 75% of the sugar plantations and ownership of railways and the telephone system. The DuPont estate grows so enormous that it employs its own private customs officer. The Cuban Telephone Company does not bother to give its network a Spanish name. Cuba is a giant Monopoly board controlled by Uncle Sam. Morality and Prohibition reign in the USA. Americans flock to Cuba for rum, sex, cocaine and gambling.

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DuPonts fluoride issues are well seen at Peach Bottom, NJ area.

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http://www.gatesofhorn.com/blog/the_fluoride_cover_up

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During the Cold War it became impossible for the government to tell the truth about what was going on, because of the possible effect on the balance of power. DuPont in Deepwater NJ., was producing millions of pounds of fluoride for the bomb, when there was an accidental release into the area.

Poultry died. The famous peach crops were burned up, and people who ate the produce from the area sometimes vomited all night. The horses were too stiff to work, and the crippled cows had to graze on their knees. It was not possible to overlook what had happened. But it was possible to cover it up.

The chief of the project's toxicology studies, Dr. Hodge wrote secret, worried memos to his boss, Col. Warren about the problems being caused by the release. Remember those two names, Hodge and Warren.

After WWII was over, the New Jersey farmers sued DuPont and the Manhattan project for fluoride damage to their crops and health. The government was shaken by this, and Major General Groves convened secret meetings in Washington requiring the attendance of scores of scientists, the FDA, the Agriculture and Justice people, the U.S. Army Chemical Welfare Service, the Bureau of Standards, and others, including of course, the battalions of DuPont lawyers.

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http://www.apfn.org/apfn/flouride.htm

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The documentary trail begins at the height of World War II, in 1944, when a severe pollution incident occurred downwind of the E.I. du Pont de Nemours Company chemical factory in Deepwater, New Jersey. The factory was then producing millions of pounds of fluoride for the Manhattan Project, the ultra-secret U.S. military program racing to produce the world’s first atomic bomb.

The farms downwind in Gloucester and Salem counties were famous for their high quality produce—their peaches went directly to the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York. Their tomatoes were bought up by Campbell’s Soup. But in the summer of 1943, the farmers began to report that their crops were blighted, and that "something is burning up the peach crops around here."

Poultry died after an all-night thunderstorm, they reported. Farm workers who ate the produce they had picked sometimes vomited all night and into the next day. "I remember our horses looked sick and were too stiff to work," these reporters were told by Mildred Giordano, who was a teenager at the time. Some cows were so crippled that they could not stand up, and grazed by crawling on their bellies.

The account was confirmed in taped interviews, shortly before he died, with Philip Sadtler of Sadtler Laboratories of Philadelphia, one of the nation’s oldest chemical consulting firms.

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K-25 in Oak Ridge, was a Kellex / Kellog associated project at its time in the life of its construction. As the completed systems then were turned over to Union Carbide. The K-25 process equipment methods were being worked out at Tonawanda, New York and the corrosive effects of fluorine gas being handled by a metal alloy known as "Monel Metal", which dealt with both fluorine and UF-6 corrosivity.

http://wikichemistry.com/konfuciy.asp?tda=dt&t=13695&fs=group+vii+-+occurance+and+extraction+-+fluorine

There were lots of special materials made to deal with fluorine, including teflon, P-40, and other items. Plus, they'd nickel plate the inside of large steel vessels of the hot process equipment to get the gas flow from becoming too contaminated with Fe related effects. All the metal corrosion issues were handled pretty well, one exception being to cut costs they just went to plain steel for large storage casks for Depleted Uranium in a cooled state, which caused problems over time. But they did use the monel metal for these tank's values. The critical component of the K-25 process was the barrier material and the Kellex design used highly resistant barrier materials. They employed nickel powder and calcium fluoride in a scintering process that because the highest technology advantage for the process success. This is why Kellex was chosen and the name give as K-25 to honor that choice.

In the Manhattan Project devolpment for Fluorine high volume Equipment they had a large florine release accident At Tonawanda / Buffalo / Niagra Falls area there that literally burned the paint of houses, frosted the glass on homes and cars, and was going to press when the Leslie Groves security system clamped down and took the entire edition of the paper to make sure the Germans didn't notice they were doing large scale fluorine production issues that they'd track back to uranium's enrichment chemisty. Making the process gase, UF-6 was critical to the operation of gas diffusion method.

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http://www.paulpratter.com/niagara/lindehooker.htm

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During the war years Hooker had developed the electrochemical cell to generate fluorine also Harshaw chemical in Cleveland Ohio and Dupont was an additional supplier of HEX to Manhattan Project see Industrial and Engineering Chemistry #2 pp 249-254 March (1947)

There is a full report on the work with the Manhattan Project on “Fluorine and Fluorinated Compounds” Volume 1 of Division VII of the Manhattan Project Technical Series. (See references and Chemical Engineering files.)

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http://www.atomicheritage.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=303

Bob Dyer and Joe Dykstra were the two guys from Hooker chemicals development of the fluorine cells sent to Oak Ridge to set up the K-25 fluorine plants.

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As for DuPont, they come in via the process cooling that required a chemical that would not cause an explosion or lots of heating if there were leaks into the processing equipment. Freon made a good choice for the internal cooling systems due to the heat of compression of the process gas that had to occur at every stage of the process. There were other release problems near Peach Bottom, NJ. DuPone had some expertise in fluorine chemistry that was tapped.

Somehow, I just can't follow some of your logic or reasoning. Perhaps it seems to be you want to associte the bankers need to get into the fluoride business too early. This is where you loose me, and I don't understand your flow there.

The issues of fluorine chemisty was huge in Germany in the early 1900's and they came up with lots of fluorine chemicals, in particular the nerve gas chemicals linked to fluorine chemistry. It was via this that it appears the issues of fluorine on the brain were found to slow people down and make them rather less energetic of the mind. Fluoride has effects on the brain, particularly the Pineal Gland and this upsets brain chemical balance. So, in terms of the NAZI issues, the fluoride effects was said to have been used by the Germans in their prisoner camps to keep down resistance, as they just wanted coorperative work force that didn't think at too high a level. Then we find the method moves over to the Russian Gulag system in years later, patterned after what the German's learned on early fluoride chemical research. You seem to suggest the fluoride push into the mainstream would have been done earlier than this by the Bankers. I don't follow you logic of associations at all there.

The issue of fluoridation came to the US, as both the Manhattan Project and the strategic metals importance of Aluminim hit center stage. They had to do something to cover up the footprints of the damage to plants, animals, and humans by these stratigic metals production needs. So, we see the push then to get fluoride accepted as being beneficial to human needs, rather than destructive to human health and brain chemistry. Then only then follow a pattern like Germany's findings as they got into florine negative side effects. The US gained the NAZI scientists and they well knew the issues of fluorine chemistry from their prison camps, and the simple logic then applied is to do the same to the US as a whole. Then you have the same system the NAZI camps wanted, which was a lowere function work force that was compliant to the industry needs. In so many ways, the US adoped socialistic thinking with that. Fluoridation was resisted in the US based upon this connection with Communism per these old methods of the Socialists in Germany and Russia.

Perhaps you need to check the history for the development of floride chemistry that stated in Germany, was involved in the nerve gas inventions, was used in Socialist's work camps, the same issues appeared in the US Via the strategic metals issues per aluminum and uranium, and the like system adoption of the Socialists came to the US per the issue of selling the public on some faked acclaimed benefical effects of an extremely toxic chemical, which was all about masking the dangers of this fuorine based chemical from the public's perception.

If you really study floridation, you find it is wholesale rejected in Europe because they knows what it does. In Europe you only find fluoridation in English area, everywhere else they don't like the mass medication effects that the Germans and Russians applied only to work camps in their history there.

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http://www.gatesofhorn.com/blog/the_fluoride_cover_up

When the Americans presented their fluoride evidence to the European scientists, just about every country in Europe instantly forbade the use of fluorides in any material that could enter the body. And they still do. Are they all crackpots?

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Perhaps you might "refine" your thoughts on the matter a little better. Taking note the US does know what it has done to take freedom from the American people via the issues linked to fluoridation, and a discovery found in Germany by the upswing of interest in fluoine chemistry. If there ever was a plot to distroy the freedom of Americans, it would be this issue of fluorine to dull their ability to think and resist and it began with the Manhattan Project at Columbia University with the issues of K-25 gas diffusion systems, as per Urey's selection of UF-6, and the same NAZI thinking applied to all of America.

The last thing to associate is that Fluorine chemistry was associated with NASA and rocketry. One of the largest fluorine plants was in Florida for NASA. NASA had to learn how to handle fluorine for deeper space missions, like Man on the Moon and Lunar Lander. The NAZI space scientists also knew all about Fluorine gas issues, as they started it all. See Dornberger and Bell Aerospace in Dallas, Tx. So, when JFK asks NASA for the scoop on UFO science, one often gets into Fluorine and Rocketry, and the NAZI socialist thinking on population control, and the plot to rob citizens of the US of their freedom. Fluoridation was and is NAZI socialism science and population control theory, now applied to all of America to a large extent.

The X-Nazis are not going to mind, at all, if the US becomes fluoridated like was done for Germany's Prison Camps. However, if one goes to Europe everyone knows the NAZI methods on fluoridation and it is rejected across the board.

Edited May 19, 2011 by Jim Phelps

[Martin Blank]

In the fall of 1963, the Kennedys were at WAR with 3 groups: 1) Lyndon Johnson who they were trying to stick a knife in politically for 2 years and who had blackmailed his way onto the ticket in 1960 2) the CIA and military hawks who especially loathed Jack Kennedy over the Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile crisis and Cuba policy in general. They wanted Castro taken out and they also wanted a war in Vietnam 3) the mafia, organized crime Carlos Marcello, Jimmy Hoffa, Santos Trafficante, Sam Giancana. Lyndon Johnson himself was organized crime. Make that a 4th group: Texas oil and the fight to preserve special tax privileges: the lucrative oil depletion allowance. Folks like HL Hunt, a key Lyndon Johnson supporter, considered John Kennedy and enemy and a traitor.

Lyndon Johnson was the cog in the wheel that pulled all these groups together. Lyndon Johnson, just like his friends in the CIA and mafia, had a long history of slaughtering people to have his way; read the book LBJ: Mastermind of JFK assassination by Phillip Nelson: http://www.lbj-themastermind.com/

No, Terry Mauro, LBJ was not in fear of being killed by the great unknown; Lyndon Johnson was in great fear of being DISCOVERED for the master criminal, fraud, murderer and usurper that he was. LBJ was not covering up for "someone else," he was covering up for HIMSELF. That is why he one the one hand was crying about "international conspiracy," but when he got back to the White House there was no high state of military alert. It is why LBJ and Cliff Carter call the Texas people and tell them "no conspiracy charges at all against Oswald." It is why LBJ himself, micromanaging the cover up called Will Fritz himself on Saturday to SHUT DOWN the Dallas police investigation. It is why Hoover of the FBI was done with his fake non-investigation within literally days after the slaughter of the president. It is why Lyndon Johnson made that fantastic call to Dr. Charles Crenshaw at Parkland, trying to force out a confession from the patsy Lee Harvey Oswald.

Lyndon Johnson was the mastermind of the JFK assassination. He may have not been the only mastermind - Allen Dulles comes to mind - but LBJ was a killer not just a "cover upper."

hunter thompson summed up lbj's legacy very nicely: "Johnson did a lot of rotten things in those five bloody years, but when the history books are written he will emerge in his proper role as the man who caused an entire generation of Americans to lose all respect for the Presidency, the White House, the Army, and in fact the whole structure of “government.”

the beat goes on as they say

[William Kelly]

In the fall of 1963, the Kennedys were at WAR with 3 groups: 1) Lyndon Johnson who they were trying to stick a knife in politically for 2 years and who had blackmailed his way onto the ticket in 1960 2) the CIA and military hawks who especially loathed Jack Kennedy over the Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile crisis and Cuba policy in general. They wanted Castro taken out and they also wanted a war in Vietnam 3) the mafia, organized crime Carlos Marcello, Jimmy Hoffa, Santos Trafficante, Sam Giancana. Lyndon Johnson himself was organized crime. Make that a 4th group: Texas oil and the fight to preserve special tax privileges: the lucrative oil depletion allowance. Folks like HL Hunt, a key Lyndon Johnson supporter, considered John Kennedy and enemy and a traitor.

Lyndon Johnson was the cog in the wheel that pulled all these groups together. Lyndon Johnson, just like his friends in the CIA and mafia, had a long history of slaughtering people to have his way; read the book LBJ: Mastermind of JFK assassination by Phillip Nelson: http://www.lbj-themastermind.com/

No, Terry Mauro, LBJ was not in fear of being killed by the great unknown; Lyndon Johnson was in great fear of being DISCOVERED for the master criminal, fraud, murderer and usurper that he was. LBJ was not covering up for "someone else," he was covering up for HIMSELF. That is why he one the one hand was crying about "international conspiracy," but when he got back to the White House there was no high state of military alert. It is why LBJ and Cliff Carter call the Texas people and tell them "no conspiracy charges at all against Oswald." It is why LBJ himself, micromanaging the cover up called Will Fritz himself on Saturday to SHUT DOWN the Dallas police investigation. It is why Hoover of the FBI was done with his fake non-investigation within literally days after the slaughter of the president. It is why Lyndon Johnson made that fantastic call to Dr. Charles Crenshaw at Parkland, trying to force out a confession from the patsy Lee Harvey Oswald.

Lyndon Johnson was the mastermind of the JFK assassination. He may have not been the only mastermind - Allen Dulles comes to mind - but LBJ was a killer not just a "cover upper."

hunter thompson summed up lbj's legacy very nicely: "Johnson did a lot of rotten things in those five bloody years, but when the history books are written he will emerge in his proper role as the man who caused an entire generation of Americans to lose all respect for the Presidency, the White House, the Army, and in fact the whole structure of "government."

the beat goes on as they say

It was on November 22, 1963 that Hunter Thompson first used the words "fear and loathing," but I can't seem to find the right reference.

I believe it is in The Great Shark Hunt Vol. II.

[Jim Phelps]

I'll have to agee LBJ was really bad, but there were several other things that topped him and what he worshiped. LBJ did anything for money, killing people no problem, and one other thing that causes more wars and killings than all that put together.

[Guest Robert Morrow]

I'll have to agee LBJ was really bad, but there were several other things that topped him and what he worshiped. LBJ did anything for money, killing people no problem, and one other thing that causes more wars and killings than all that put together.

George Herbert Walker Bush, along with Lyndon Johnson, are the two biggest political criminals in modern American History. Both of them are far worse than the Clintons, Nixon, etc.

With GHW Bush you get 1) his (likely) participation in the JFK assassination 2) the traitorous 1980 deal with the Iranians to NOT release the American hostages until after the election vs. Carter to forestall an "October Surprise," 3) 1980's gargantuan CIA drug smuggling, money laundering 4) the murder of Barry Seal in 1986 so that he would not reveal the Bush/CIA/Oliver North drug smuggling/dealing 5) terrorizing, willing to murder Ross Perot in the 1992 campaign - see Chip Tatum the CIA Pegasus agent who refused to do it - http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MENA/TATUM/tatum.html

6) longtime, seriously addicted homosexual pedophile. See www.franklinscandal.com and read the book the Franklin Cover Up for that.

On this last point - GHW Bush and his pedophilia - among the people who study such things the name George Herbert Walker Bush comes up over and over again. This is not just some "rumor," Bush has spent the majority of his adult life as a predatory gay pedophile. I interviewed in January, 2011, Ray Hill (age 70), a long time Houston gay activist and Hill made it clear to me that Bush's pedophilia was known back in the 1960's when GHW Bush was a congressman. Bush used to take an Hispanic kid to the old Carousel Motel next to the Gulfgate Mall. The owners of the Carousel Motel, John Coil and Roy Beam, used to tell Ray Hill that Bush was taking kids there. I asked Hill, how old was this kid - was he age 17-18 or age 15-16 (the age of consent in Texas is 17). And Ray Hill replied emphatically, "Young enough to be called a kid!"

So the word "megacriminal" pretty much sums up George Herbert Walker Pedophile Bush: murders JFK as a high ranking Texas CIA operative, gargantuan drug smuggling, other assassinations (countless I am sure), uses CIA Pegasus assassins to terrify Ross Perot in 1992 campaign, and a gay pedophile to boot!

Edited May 17, 2011 by Robert Morrow

[Martin Blank]

In the fall of 1963, the Kennedys were at WAR with 3 groups: 1) Lyndon Johnson who they were trying to stick a knife in politically for 2 years and who had blackmailed his way onto the ticket in 1960 2) the CIA and military hawks who especially loathed Jack Kennedy over the Bay of Pigs, Cuban Missile crisis and Cuba policy in general. They wanted Castro taken out and they also wanted a war in Vietnam 3) the mafia, organized crime Carlos Marcello, Jimmy Hoffa, Santos Trafficante, Sam Giancana. Lyndon Johnson himself was organized crime. Make that a 4th group: Texas oil and the fight to preserve special tax privileges: the lucrative oil depletion allowance. Folks like HL Hunt, a key Lyndon Johnson supporter, considered John Kennedy and enemy and a traitor.

Lyndon Johnson was the cog in the wheel that pulled all these groups together. Lyndon Johnson, just like his friends in the CIA and mafia, had a long history of slaughtering people to have his way; read the book LBJ: Mastermind of JFK assassination by Phillip Nelson: http://www.lbj-themastermind.com/

No, Terry Mauro, LBJ was not in fear of being killed by the great unknown; Lyndon Johnson was in great fear of being DISCOVERED for the master criminal, fraud, murderer and usurper that he was. LBJ was not covering up for "someone else," he was covering up for HIMSELF. That is why he one the one hand was crying about "international conspiracy," but when he got back to the White House there was no high state of military alert. It is why LBJ and Cliff Carter call the Texas people and tell them "no conspiracy charges at all against Oswald." It is why LBJ himself, micromanaging the cover up called Will Fritz himself on Saturday to SHUT DOWN the Dallas police investigation. It is why Hoover of the FBI was done with his fake non-investigation within literally days after the slaughter of the president. It is why Lyndon Johnson made that fantastic call to Dr. Charles Crenshaw at Parkland, trying to force out a confession from the patsy Lee Harvey Oswald.

Lyndon Johnson was the mastermind of the JFK assassination. He may have not been the only mastermind - Allen Dulles comes to mind - but LBJ was a killer not just a "cover upper."

hunter thompson summed up lbj's legacy very nicely: "Johnson did a lot of rotten things in those five bloody years, but when the history books are written he will emerge in his proper role as the man who caused an entire generation of Americans to lose all respect for the Presidency, the White House, the Army, and in fact the whole structure of "government."

the beat goes on as they say

It was on November 22, 1963 that Hunter Thompson first used the words "fear and loathing," but I can't seem to find the right reference.

I believe it is in The Great Shark Hunt Vol. II.

The Origin Of "Fear And Loathing"

(In a letter to his friend, William Kennedy, Thompson uses the term, "Fear and Loathing", perhaps for the first time, written on the Day John Kennedy was assasinated in Dallas)

November, 22, 1963

Woody Creek

I am tired enough to sleep here in this chair, but I have to be in town at 8:30 when Western Union opens so what the hell. Besides, I am afraid to sleep for fear of what I might learn when I wake up. There is no human being within 500 miles to whom I can communicate anything - much less the fear and loathin that is on me after today's murder. God knows I might go mad for lack of talk. I have become like a psychotic Sphinx - I want to kill because I can't talk.

I suppose you will say the rotten murder has no meaning for a true writer of fiction, and that the "real artist" in the "little magazines" are above such temporal things. I wish I could agree, but in fact I think what happened today is far more meaningful than the entire contents of the "little magazines" for the past 20 years. And the next 20, if we get that far.

We now enter the era of the xxxxrain, President Johnson and the hardening of the arteries. Neither your children nor mine will ever be able to grasp what Gatsby was after. No more of that. You misunderstand it of course, peeling back the first and most obvious layer. Take your "realism" to the garbage dump. Or the "little magazines." They are like a man who goes into a phone booth to pull his pod. Nada, nada.

The killing has put me in a state of shock. The rage is trebled. I was not prepared at this time for the death of hope, but here it is. Ignore it at your peril. I have written Semonin, that cheap book-store Marxist, that he had better tell his boys to buy bullets. And forget the dialectic. This is the end of reason, the dirtiest hour in our time. I mean to come down from the hills and enter the fray. Tomorrow a cabled job request to "The Reporter." Failing that, the "Observer." Beyond that, God knows, but it will have to be something. From now until the 1964 elections every man with balls should be on the firing line. The vote will be the most critical in the history of man. No matter what, today is the end of an era. No more fair play. From now on it is dirty pool and judo in the clinches. The savage nuts have shattered the great myth of American decency. They can count me in - I feel ready for a dirty game.

Fiction is dead. Mailer is an antique curiosity. The stakes are now too high and the time too short. What, O what, does Eudora Welty have to say? xxxx that crowd. The only hope now is to swing hard with the right hand, while hanging on to sanity with the left. Politics will become a cockfight and reason will go by the boards. There will have to be somebody to carry the flag.

My concept of the new novel would have fit this situation, but now I see no hope for getting it done, if indeed, any publishing houses survive the Nazis scramble that is sure to come. How could we have known, or even guessed? I think we have come to that point.

Send word if you still exist -

HST

(From "The Proud Highway: Saga Of A Desperate Southern Gentlemen")

http://thedirtysouth.blogspot.com/2005/02/origin-of-fear-and-loathing.html

[Walt Rollins]

Tom, it was really weird to see that photo you posted of the Remington Arms factory in Bridgeport, Connecticut. I walked past that very factory on my way home from Saint Michael's School on the afternoon of Nov. 22, 1963. I was unaware of the shooting until I reached home but I remember that walk to this day as if it happened yesterday. I walked past those buildings every day for two years while I was in second and third grade. Yeah, you could walk down Barnum Ave., Arctic Street and Hallett Street as a kid back in those days. Sorry to take the thread off on a tangent but that photo brought back the memories.

Edited May 18, 2011 by Walt Rollins