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One of the most interesting things is that this fella can't understand the difference between static, which is what his ramblings applied to, and dynamic. A bullet's impact doesn't follow the static systems rules because it doesn't apply due to pressure waves and the system not being in equilibrium.

Which means, there isn't any use in talking to someone illiterate in the sciences. It is a waste of everyone's time.

Take your nonsense somewhere else.

If you have all the answers, start your thead up, then lets have you list all your themes on Pascal so everyone can show them around to everyone. I'd say if you walked into any University with a Physics Professor they are going to laugh and offer you a chance to go to school. Well, on second thought, they might decide you might not be very smart in physics, and say goodbye.

Start your own theat name, toss out all your calculations, all your science proofs, or alledged science. Do it all without interference or comment from anyone else. If you are on the mark, then folks are going to be talking your theme. If not, then you get to be the science illiterate, which is my opinion.

I'd say your are absolutely afaid to start your own thead up and show your head shot analysis and do use that Pascal theme. I think you'll go down the drain in short order. I am not going to fool with teaching you why Pascal doesn't apply, as you appear exceedingly dense. I can't fix ignorance of science, nor do I want to even carry on a discussion with ignorance. There is no nice way to put it.

You only purpose around here is to keep talking like a brokern record on Pascal, Pascal, Pascal.

Pascal is only used for systems in equilibrium and without pressure waves. That is for those that know science, as the curent person can't seem to understand wave physics.

I am going to put you on "ignore," for the due cause of technical nonsense. I am also going to file a complaint that you are off the topic in even bringing up again Pascal again and again, which is a static system issue that doesn't apply to high vel bullets and I am going to show that experts in the field of ballistics agree. And that you are being disruptive.

Ignore, I figured as much.

I have to say, I find it heart breaking that anyone who follows the beliefs of Harris would put me on ignore.

I find it heart breaking that someone who does not understand that the very change in static to dynamic condition is precisely what Pascal is addressing. After all, it is the influence of pressure (dynamic), from an outside source, on liquid (in a static condition).

But one has to wonder why would you think that I would be afraid to post in another thread? I have posted this stuff many times, and not one time has it ever been refuted.

It also goes to note that for all your yammering, you have yet to refute it, you just continue to dance and gas bag along.

Speaking of gas as a fundamental you may want to research a few laws that continue to provide evidence of your ignorance.

Boyle's Law, Gay-Lussac's Law, and Charles' Law might be a good beginning, but first I suggest you brush up on high school physics. This will of course add to your understanding and comprehension of energy, momentum, and force. Which you have clearly shown you lack.

As for your complaint, I am not off topic at all. As far as I can tell this topic is about Robert Harris and his ridiculous conclusions, which you support, in regard to a second head shot based on the z film.

I refute your beliefs and Harris beliefs, and Pascals Law proves that you are incorrect. How is this off topic? How is this disruptive?

I am right on topic, and still addressing your claims of a second head shot.

I believe that you only find this disruptive, because you and your pseudo education are being taken to school on things you obviously know nothing about.

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Disruptive behavior 1:

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Person appears not even able to handle basic mathematics with calculation for grains used in the Kinetic Energy Calculation example above. Such extreme ignorance show zero ability to continue any discussion and the basic issue appears to be troublemaking, providing intentional disruption. A online converter calculator was even including in the listing, making it nearly impossible to screw it up. Yet the person screwed it up: "You might want to recalibrate lol." obviously due to his comment.

Mike Williams, on 03 June 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

You might want to recalibrate lol.

Here is another hint.

A bullet weight if one grain is 1/7000th of a pound.

An online calculator:

http://www.unitconve...conversion.html

Another online calculator:

http://www.easysurf.cc/cnver8.htm

The conversion factor is 70 Gr = 0.01 lb, which is consistent with all the conversions used above in the Kinetic Energy Balance Equation. "70 Gr Bullet" was selected because that is a typical 222/223 caliber bullet weight, so fits the Grassy Knoll and XP-100 type pistol.

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Disruptive behavior 2:

http://karws.gso.uri...high-speed.html

Source:

Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio, Chief Medical Examiner and Director of the Regional Crime Laboratory, County of Bexar, San Antonio, Texas (from his Gunshot Wounds, CRC Press, Boca Raton, FL, 1985)

Reference clearly states that Bullet effects on head pressure result on distribution of positive and negative pressures within the skull----meaning there is no a Pascal pressure distribution.

Complaint: Total failure to be able to comprehind known experts in the field of Ballistics and Gunshot wounds. Net result is the person wants to cause disruption and toss out constant nonsense.

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Disruptive Behavior 3:

Failure to be inclusing of the formation of gases due to gunshot bullet dynamic effects on heating:

http://books.google....epage&q&f=false

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Disruptive Bahavior 4:

Failure to use the defintion for Pascal that requires the system to be "at rest," which means in a "static equilibrium" state with no flow or wave energy in the medium. Person shows a consistent Total failure to know the well established scientic language criteria to use Pascal's, or even to understand the basics of physics. Leaving one to think the only reason to keep up his repeating is absolute ignorance, or that of constant troublemaking. Either is not acceptable and disruptive to the thread's discussion via proper methods. These are attacks on the ability to have decent conversations using proper science application.

http://www.britannic...scals-principle

Pascal’s principle, also called Pascal’s Law, in fluid (gas or liquid) mechanics, statement that in a fluid at rest in a closed container a pressure change in one part is transmitted without loss to every portion of the fluid and to the walls of the container. The principle was first enunciated by the French scientist Blaise Pascal.

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Jim,

Please stop. You continue to make yourself look foolish, and lose credibility by the minute.

It is, and has been readily apparent to everyone, that you have no clue what you are talking about.

You have made this more than evident Jim, and yet, you continue rambling on.

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Disruptive behavior 1:

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Person appears not even able to handle basic mathematics with calculation for grains used in the Kinetic Energy Calculation example above. Such extreme ignorance show zero ability to continue any discussion and the basic issue appears to be troublemaking, providing intentional disruption. A online converter calculator was even including in the listing, making it nearly impossible to screw it up. Yet the person screwed it up: "You might want to recalibrate lol." obviously due to his comment.

Mike Williams, on 03 June 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

You might want to recalibrate lol.

Here is another hint.

A bullet weight if one grain is 1/7000th of a pound.

An online calculator:

http://www.unitconve...conversion.html

Another online calculator:

http://www.easysurf.cc/cnver8.htm

The conversion factor is 70 Gr = 0.01 lb, which is consistent with all the conversions used above in the Kinetic Energy Balance Equation. "70 Gr Bullet" was selected because that is a typical 222/223 caliber bullet weight, so fits the Grassy Knoll and XP-100 type pistol.

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Disruptive behavior 2:

http://karws.gso.uri...high-speed.html

Source:

Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio, Chief Medical Examiner and Director of the Regional Crime Laboratory, County of Bexar, San Antonio, Texas (from his Gunshot Wounds, CRC Press, Boca Raton, FL, 1985)

Reference clearly states that Bullet effects on head pressure result on distribution of positive and negative pressures within the skull----meaning there is no a Pascal pressure distribution.

Complaint: Total failure to be able to comprehind known experts in the field of Ballistics and Gunshot wounds. Net result is the person wants to cause disruption and toss out constant nonsense.

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Disruptive Behavior 3:

Failure to be inclusing of the formation of gases due to gunshot bullet dynamic effects on heating:

http://books.google....epage&q&f=false

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Disruptive Bahavior 4:

Failure to use the defintion for Pascal that requires the system to be "at rest," which means in a "static equilibrium" state with no flow or wave energy in the medium. Person shows a consistent Total failure to know the well established scientic language criteria to use Pascal's, or even to understand the basics of physics. Leaving one to think the only reason to keep up his repeating is absolute ignorance, or that of constant troublemaking. Either is not acceptable and disruptive to the thread's discussion via proper methods. These are attacks on the ability to have decent conversations using proper science application.

http://www.britannic...scals-principle

Pascal’s principle, also called Pascal’s Law, in fluid (gas or liquid) mechanics, statement that in a fluid at rest in a closed container a pressure change in one part is transmitted without loss to every portion of the fluid and to the walls of the container. The principle was first enunciated by the French scientist Blaise Pascal.

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Disruptive behavior 1:

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Person appears not even able to handle basic mathematics with calculation for grains used in the Kinetic Energy Calculation example above. Such extreme ignorance show zero ability to continue any discussion and the basic issue appears to be troublemaking, providing intentional disruption. A online converter calculator was even including in the listing, making it nearly impossible to screw it up. Yet the person screwed it up: "You might want to recalibrate lol." obviously due to his comment.

Mike Williams, on 03 June 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

You might want to recalibrate lol.

Here is another hint.

A bullet weight if one grain is 1/7000th of a pound.

An online calculator:

http://www.unitconve...conversion.html

Another online calculator:

http://www.easysurf.cc/cnver8.htm

The conversion factor is 70 Gr = 0.01 lb, which is consistent with all the conversions used above in the Kinetic Energy Balance Equation. "70 Gr Bullet" was selected because that is a typical 222/223 caliber bullet weight, so fits the Grassy Knoll and XP-100 type pistol.

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Disruptive behavior 2:

http://karws.gso.uri...high-speed.html

Source:

Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio, Chief Medical Examiner and Director of the Regional Crime Laboratory, County of Bexar, San Antonio, Texas (from his Gunshot Wounds, CRC Press, Boca Raton, FL, 1985)

Reference clearly states that Bullet effects on head pressure result on distribution of positive and negative pressures within the skull----meaning there is no a Pascal pressure distribution.

Complaint: Total failure to be able to comprehind known experts in the field of Ballistics and Gunshot wounds. Net result is the person wants to cause disruption and toss out constant nonsense.

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Disruptive Behavior 3:

Failure to be inclusing of the formation of gases due to gunshot bullet dynamic effects on heating:

http://books.google....epage&q&f=false

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Disruptive Bahavior 4:

Failure to use the defintion for Pascal that requires the system to be "at rest," which means in a "static equilibrium" state with no flow or wave energy in the medium. Person shows a consistent Total failure to know the well established scientic language criteria to use Pascal's, or even to understand the basics of physics. Leaving one to think the only reason to keep up his repeating is absolute ignorance, or that of constant troublemaking. Either is not acceptable and disruptive to the thread's discussion via proper methods. These are attacks on the ability to have decent conversations using proper science application.

http://www.britannic...scals-principle

Pascal’s principle, also called Pascal’s Law, in fluid (gas or liquid) mechanics, statement that in a fluid at rest in a closed container a pressure change in one part is transmitted without loss to every portion of the fluid and to the walls of the container. The principle was first enunciated by the French scientist Blaise Pascal.

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Well Jim, since you insist on re-posting things that show your ignorance of the subject, why not tell us just where I went wrong? Are you ever going to post the work that refutes me?

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Disruptive behavior 1:

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Person appears not even able to handle basic mathematics with calculation for grains used in the Kinetic Energy Calculation example above. Such extreme ignorance show zero ability to continue any discussion and the basic issue appears to be troublemaking, providing intentional disruption. A online converter calculator was even including in the listing, making it nearly impossible to screw it up. Yet the person screwed it up: "You might want to recalibrate lol." obviously due to his comment.

Mike Williams, on 03 June 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

You might want to recalibrate lol.

Here is another hint.

A bullet weight if one grain is 1/7000th of a pound.

An online calculator:

http://www.unitconve...conversion.html

Another online calculator:

http://www.easysurf.cc/cnver8.htm

The conversion factor is 70 Gr = 0.01 lb, which is consistent with all the conversions used above in the Kinetic Energy Balance Equation. "70 Gr Bullet" was selected because that is a typical 222/223 caliber bullet weight, so fits the Grassy Knoll and XP-100 type pistol.

=======

Disruptive behavior 2:

http://karws.gso.uri...high-speed.html

Source:

Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio, Chief Medical Examiner and Director of the Regional Crime Laboratory, County of Bexar, San Antonio, Texas (from his Gunshot Wounds, CRC Press, Boca Raton, FL, 1985)

Reference clearly states that Bullet effects on head pressure result on distribution of positive and negative pressures within the skull----meaning there is no a Pascal pressure distribution.

Complaint: Total failure to be able to comprehind known experts in the field of Ballistics and Gunshot wounds. Net result is the person wants to cause disruption and toss out constant nonsense.

===========

Disruptive Behavior 3:

Failure to be inclusing of the formation of gases due to gunshot bullet dynamic effects on heating:

http://books.google....epage&q&f=false

============

Disruptive Bahavior 4:

Failure to use the defintion for Pascal that requires the system to be "at rest," which means in a "static equilibrium" state with no flow or wave energy in the medium. Person shows a consistent Total failure to know the well established scientic language criteria to use Pascal's, or even to understand the basics of physics. Leaving one to think the only reason to keep up his repeating is absolute ignorance, or that of constant troublemaking. Either is not acceptable and disruptive to the thread's discussion via proper methods. These are attacks on the ability to have decent conversations using proper science application.

http://www.britannic...scals-principle

Pascal’s principle, also called Pascal’s Law, in fluid (gas or liquid) mechanics, statement that in a fluid at rest in a closed container a pressure change in one part is transmitted without loss to every portion of the fluid and to the walls of the container. The principle was first enunciated by the French scientist Blaise Pascal.

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IMHO

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Disruptive behavior 1:

===

Person appears not even able to handle basic mathematics with calculation for grains used in the Kinetic Energy Calculation example above. Such extreme ignorance show zero ability to continue any discussion and the basic issue appears to be troublemaking, providing intentional disruption. A online converter calculator was even including in the listing, making it nearly impossible to screw it up. Yet the person screwed it up: "You might want to recalibrate lol." obviously due to his comment.

Mike Williams, on 03 June 2011 - 03:53 PM, said:

You might want to recalibrate lol.

Here is another hint.

A bullet weight if one grain is 1/7000th of a pound.

An online calculator:

http://www.unitconve...conversion.html

Another online calculator:

http://www.easysurf.cc/cnver8.htm

The conversion factor is 70 Gr = 0.01 lb, which is consistent with all the conversions used above in the Kinetic Energy Balance Equation. "70 Gr Bullet" was selected because that is a typical 222/223 caliber bullet weight, so fits the Grassy Knoll and XP-100 type pistol.

=======

Disruptive behavior 2:

http://karws.gso.uri...high-speed.html

Source:

Dr. Vincent J. M. Di Maio, Chief Medical Examiner and Director of the Regional Crime Laboratory, County of Bexar, San Antonio, Texas (from his Gunshot Wounds, CRC Press, Boca Raton, FL, 1985)

Reference clearly states that Bullet effects on head pressure result on distribution of positive and negative pressures within the skull----meaning there is no a Pascal pressure distribution.

Complaint: Total failure to be able to comprehind known experts in the field of Ballistics and Gunshot wounds. Net result is the person wants to cause disruption and toss out constant nonsense.

===========

Disruptive Behavior 3:

Failure to be inclusing of the formation of gases due to gunshot bullet dynamic effects on heating:

http://books.google....epage&q&f=false

============

Disruptive Bahavior 4:

Failure to use the defintion for Pascal that requires the system to be "at rest," which means in a "static equilibrium" state with no flow or wave energy in the medium. Person shows a consistent Total failure to know the well established scientic language criteria to use Pascal's, or even to understand the basics of physics. Leaving one to think the only reason to keep up his repeating is absolute ignorance, or that of constant troublemaking. Either is not acceptable and disruptive to the thread's discussion via proper methods. These are attacks on the ability to have decent conversations using proper science application.

http://www.britannic...scals-principle

Pascal’s principle, also called Pascal’s Law, in fluid (gas or liquid) mechanics, statement that in a fluid at rest in a closed container a pressure change in one part is transmitted without loss to every portion of the fluid and to the walls of the container. The principle was first enunciated by the French scientist Blaise Pascal.

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http://www.stewwebb.com/bush_crime_family_quotes.htm

George H W Bush Replied: "Sarah, If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched."

If is looks like a Bush-41 confession, then it probably is.

It would be the same things said right after the Lincoln assassination, and JFK's casket was held in state on the old Lincoln casket support.

Lots of other good telling quotations on that URL

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Once on gets to the 2 shots to the head on the Zapruder Film all the Autopsy Data fits and the brain matter going to the front and to the back all fits. So, were pretty good on the actual kill. So, lets go up the chain of killers to who was at the top. Here we get back to some old alliances in Hungrary and the top Crooks in the Plot to kill JFK. These are persons like Morty Bloomfield and Georgy Mandel and Talmudic Rabbi Tibor Rosenbaum and all of them tied to PERMINDEX and Rosenbaum is the big banker and money laundry agent for the Mafia and the Mossad. It is easy to ferrit out the PERMINDEX documents these days, but one has to add in just a little more to get all the dots connected, so here is the rest:

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This fella gets an A in connecting the dots to CIA and Mossad---ferreting out Tibor Rosenbaum---finding the IG Farben industrial security system connected with Bernhard. Roots of DISC=NW7 and CIA. These are the Mossad good ole boys, godfathers, run by the Mossad's banker Tibor Rosenbaum.

http://www.williambowles.info/mideast/mossad-jfk.html

PRINCE BERNHARD’S POSITION IN THE ANTI COMMUNIST NETWORK, CONCERNING THE DEATH OF JFK

SYNOPSIS OF ‘DE MOORDVRIENDEN’ © PETER EDEL 1998.

The original title De Moordvrienden doesn’t make much sense translated into English. The literal translation would be something like The Murder Friends. In The Netherlands people are using the expression ‘Moordvrienden’ to describe the relationship between two real good friends. An alternative English title could be something like: Birds of a deadly feather, but this matter still remains to be seen.

De Moordvrienden opens with the development, during and after WWII, of a right wing network, using anticommunism as an argument for involvement in all kind of politcal subversion and criminal affairs. Considering this it’s not so strange that organised crime joined the anticommunist network already during the war. The structure of the anticommunist network is illustrated in De Moordvrienden by the friendly relationship between his Royal Highness Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands, the husband of the former Dutch Queen Her Royal Highness Princess Juliana and the Hungarian born banker/Mossad agent Tibor Rosenbaum. The intention of De Moordvrienden is to consider the friendship between these two men and their role in the anticommunist network, in relation to one of the most important events in modern history: the assassination of the American president John F.Kennedy. A short summary of De Moordvrienden follows below.

In the early thirties, the SA and SS member Prince Bernhard, began to work for NW 7, the industrial espionage department of IG Farben. This chemical manufacturing company earned an infamous reputation in history because it financed the nazi party’s rise to power. Bernhard’s employer was looking for a way to gain influence on the highest level in the Netherlands. At that point the management of IG Farben knew the Dutch royal family was looking for someone to mary crownprincess Juliana. Bernhard appeared as the ideal candidate for this marriage and was pushed forward as such by IG Farben. The Dutch government considered itself very lucky to find such an ideal person to marry the crownprincess. Bernhard had an ideal background and was not bad looking either. At the same time the Dutch government never realised that they invited a ‘trojan horse’, because at that point Bernhard was nothing else than an IG Farben mole. Officially Bernhard terminated his duties for IG Farben when he married to Juana, but there is wide evidence that the prince stayed loyal to his former employer and to the companies the German chemical manufacturer was associated with, like the American Standard Oil from the Rockefeller family. His loyalty towards IG Farben remained when the occupation of the Netherlands by nazi Germany began.

During most of the war Bernhard stayed in London, where he got associated with a cooperation between British, Dutch and German intelligence organisations, known as the ‘Englandspiel’. The intention of this covert operation was to round up communist and other leftish resistance groups in the Netherlands in a collective effort between these agencies. The Englandspiel clearly shows that circles in London were more afraid of communism, than of national socialism. On the background of the Englandspiel were the interests of both German and American multinationals, especially those of IG Farben and Standard Oil. National Socialism was seen there as the most effective protection against Soviet communism. Under these conditions there was readiness in both the UK and the USA to come to terms with the nazi’s. Bernhard played a key role in the negociations to come to a reconsilation between the nazi’s and the Anglosaxon estabishment. In his perception the pre-war conditions in the Netherlands and the st of Europe, would not return in case a deal with the Germans would be reached. The prince hated democracy and wanted to rule by himself; in other words he wanted the full power. To reach this, Bernhard was prepared to join any possible alliance. He even wrote a letter to the nazi’s in which he proposed to rule over the Netherlands on their behalf. But in the same period Bernhard also got introduced to representatives of the American intelligence community and the military industrial complex, two grop overlapping each other in all kind of ways. The contacts with both the former nazi network and the Anglosaxon estabishment would be very important in the later life of the prince.

After the war the alliance aganinst communism took care of it that the image of national socialism, as being the main threat to humanity, was immediately replaced by the threat of Soviet communism. Consequently the Cold War was born. Under these conditions the persecution of war criminals had no high priority. Many of the former nazi’s got their old jobs back as a result of this. The cooperation, that had started during the war between Anglsaxon establishment and the structures that were left behind by the nazi’s, continued in the post-war period. For instance: the Americans took over the ‘Abwehr’ spy network that was build up during the war by the nazi Reinhard Gehlen. And under ‘Operation Paperclip’ many nazi were offered the possibilty to escape to the American continent.

Bernhard did everything to widen his influence in the post war period. He was asked by a fromer IG Farben superiorto become a representative for the Lockheed company, from which he took lots of bribes. In 1954 he became the president of the Bilderberg meetings, in which the cooperation between the anglosaxon and former nazi network was strongly represented. This way the Bilderbergers became one of the main strongholds against communism in Europe and the USA. In 1976 evidence appeared that Bernhard had taken bribes from Lockheed. Under pressure caused by this development he had to give up many of his public functions. He was also forced to resign as president of the Bilderbergmeetings. But the prince kept being associated with the highest circles, since he had created an alternative for Bilderberg. In the beginning of the seventies he had founded the 1001 club, a society of financers of the World Wildlife fund. The international elite was widely represented here, just like it was in the Bilderbergers. It was ithe 1001 club where the other key figure in De Moordvrienden, Tibor Rosenbaum, appeared for the first time in relation to Prince Bernhard.

Tibor Rosenbaum was born in Hungary. His parents were religious jews who made their son become a Rabbi. During the war Rosenbaum was strongly associated with zionist organisations, like the ‘Relief and Rescue committee’ from dr. Rudolf Kastner. At the last stage of the war Kastner made deals with the nazi Adolf Eichmann, who made it possible that a small number of prominent zionist jews from Hungary could travel to Palestine. In exchange for this Kastner assisted the nazi’s with the deporatation of the majority of Hungarian jews to the death camps. After the war Rosenbaum remained being influenced by zionism. He travelled to Israel where he came to live in a kibbutz. But he couldn’t get used there to the collective atmosphere there which made him leave Israel shortly after. Subcequently Rosenbaum came to Switserland, where he kept defending zionist interests. He became president of the Jewish Agency and the ‘World Zionist Organisation’. In this period Rosenbaum became very importt for Israel, because he worked for the ‘Israel Corporation’, a fundraising institution that financed the advancement of Israel. This position made him very popular in the jewish state. In the late fifties Rosenbaum founded the ‘Banque du Crédit International’ (BCI). In reality this meant that he became a Mossad agent, because it was through this bank that operations of the Mossad were financed.

In the mean time Tibor Rosenbaum had started a friendly relationship with Prince Bernhard. This friendship can’t be considered separat from zionism becoming a partner in the anticommunist network shortly after the creation of Israel. Although it was national socialims that had killed more than five million jews during the war, it was Soviet communism being seen by the zionists as the main threat from now on. A cooperation between zionists and the existing anti communist network followed as result. While Bernhard could be seen as an important reprentative of the Aglosaxon/nazi component in this structure, Rosenbaum appeared as such in relation to zionism.

Rosenbaum lost his popularity in Israel when his involvement was discovered in illegal speculation with funds from the Israel Corporation. This event would eventually mean the end of Rosenbaum’s BCI. Prince Bernhard tried to protect his friend Rosenbaum from going bankrupt. In an attempt to solve the financial problem of the BCI he sold the castle ‘Warmelo’ to another company from his Hungarian born friend. He did this for an outrageous low price. But the sale of the castle had very little result, since the BCI was going bankrupt anyway. Subcequently Bernhard saw his castle disappear in the BCI bankruptcy. This caused an enormous problem for Bernhard, since the castle was not completely his. Anyway, the prince needed money suddenly at that point. And he needed it fast, which made him beg for money at the companies that bribed him before. The notes he send to the Lockheed company with requests for more money, later formed the essential evidence that the prince had been ‘on the take’.

Before Rosenbaum was unmasked as a fraud, he had gained some popularity with his BCI. Many account holders had ties with the jewish state, which was not so strange since rosenbaum’s bank could be seen as Mossad bank. At the same time the BCI was actively involved in laudering money from the criminal empire of Meyer Lansky. Like Rosenbaum, Lansky was a fierce supporter of the state of Israel. In return for his financial contributions he received protection form the Mossad. The revenues of Lansky’s criminal practices were partly laundered through Bernie Cornfields ‘Investors Overseas Services’ (IOS), in those days a very poular investment company. Rosenbaum appeared as the financial wizard in the background of IOS. Later an enormous financial scandal was caused when IOS was taken over violently by the American criminal Robert Vesco. Like Rosenbaum Vesco was acquainted to Prince Bernhard.

The BCI form Prince Bernhard’s friend Tibor Rosenbaum is mentioned frequently as financer of the Italian/Canadian/American Permindex company. It is at this point where De Moordvrienden takes a step in the direction of the Kennedy assassination. Permindex appears as the link between the anticommunist network, in which Prince Bernhard has manifested himself so prominently, and the theories concerning the fatal shots that were fired on Kennedy on 22 november 1963.

In 1967 Permindex board member Clay Shaw was arrested for involvement in a conspiracy against Kennedy, by New Orleans district attorney Jim Garrison. Prior to the Kennedy assassination Shaw was seen together with Lee Harvey Oswald. Killing the American president was the topic of a conversation where both Shaw and Oswald were present. For Garrison this was enough reason to put Shaw under investigation. He discovered that Shaw had been performing assignments for the CIA. In 1967, however, Jim Garrison couldn’t proove that Shaw was working for the ‘Agency’. This is why Shaw was declared innocent by court eventually, as can be seen in Oliver Stone’s movie JFK. But although Shaw couldn’t be proved guilty, Garrison was able to gather a lot of information on the structure of Permindex and the anticommunist network this company was connected to. Permindex appears in Garrison’s research, as an organisation specialised in political assassinations. Some researchers have paid attention to Peindex in the mean time. Each time this company has been specifically placed in the perspective of the research these people were working on. This way Permindex has been called a front for the CIA, an organisation of former nazi’s, or a ‘Murder inc’ financed by organised crime and the Mossad. These conclusions are all more or less tru, but still the essence of Permindex has never been reached this way. De Moordvrienden approaches this matter differently. For the first time Permindex comes forad as a collective initiative, by the groups represented in the anticommunist network that wanted Kennedy out of the way.

Permindex was founded in the fifties by the Hungarian Ferenc Nagy, who served earlier as a minister in the pro-nazi government of Horty in Hungary during WWII. The communist takeover in his home country turned Nagy into a fierce supporter of anticommunism. Other board members of Permindex had strong affiliations with segments of the anticommunist network as well. Take for instance Major Bloomfield, who was president of the Permindex branche in Montreal. Bloomfield had previously worked for the secret British sabotage organisation ‘Standard Operations Executive’(SOE). During the war SOE cooperated with the predecessor of the CIA, the OSS. Shortly after the war the SOE structures assisted in the development of Israeli intelligence. Like Rosenbaum, Bloomfield was a member of Prince Bernhards 1001 club and had warm feelings towards Israel. Together with Clay Shaw, Bloomfield represented the Anglosaxon intelligence agencies within Permindex, like the CIA. There was reason enough for the CIA to be upset bKennedy, after the ‘bay of pigs’ fiasco. This invasion of Cuba, that was organised by the CIA, was a complete faillure. The CIA and anti-Castro Cubans had to beg Kennedy for military assistance, but he didn’t gave in to that request, because he feared escalation of the conflict with the Soviet Union. As a result of the ‘Bay of Pigs’ fiasco, Allen Dulles and his CIA felt betrayed by Kennedy. Prince Bernhard was very close with CIA icons like Dulles. They were among the circles he go ntroduced to during the war. In 1954 Allen Dulles was one of the founding members of the Bilderbergmeetings.

But it was not only the CIA that couldn’t stand Kennedy, since he also declared war on organised crime. This was reason enough for the ‘National Crime Syndicat’ to have a contract on him. The absolute leader of the National Crime Syndicat was Meyer Lansky, who was mentioned before because of his relation with Tibor Rosenbaum and the Mossad. Through Rosenbaum, Lansky comes forward as one of the dark forces behind Permindex. Lansky hated Kennedy, to start with because of the antisemitism of the American President’s father Joseph. From John F. Kennedy Lansky expected nothing else than hate of jews. Lansky was wrong, because Kennedy didn’t share his fathers antisemitism. But Lansky couldn’t explain Kennedy’s war on crime any other way. Besides there was also another reason why Lansky hated Kennedy, whichs also had to do with Israel. During the elections after which Kennedy became president he was strongly supported by the pro Israel lobby in Israel. They gave him money and advic their followers to vote for him. In exchange the pro Israel lobby expected influence in the US policy towards the middle east. After becoming president Kennedy disappointed the pro Israel lobby. Kennedy decided to widen American influence in this region. This meant that not only Israel, but also other countries in the Middle East, would be supported by the USA. And than there was the matter of the nuclear policy of Israel. After becoming president, Kenenedy was informed by his predecessor Eisenhower, thatIrael was working on a nuclear weapon. Kennedy was strongly against this development. He was in favor of the principle of non proliferation and was afraid that an Israli nuclear force would complicate arms negotiations with the Soviet Union. That’s why he started putting pressure on Israel’s prime minister Ben Goerion, to allow inspection of the nuclear facilities of Israel at Dimona in the Negev desert. When Israel kept refusing this, Isaeli/American relations went downhill. Kennedy was seen at hetime as a main obstacle to Israeli security. His death worked out as a solution for the zionist elite concerning the Israeli nuclear ambitions, since Lyndon B.Johnson never askd any questions about this. This was all together reason enough for the zionist lobby in the US to enter the alliance against Kennedy. In day-to-day routine this came down to a zionist/Mossad involvement in Permindex, such as through the financing of Rosenbaum’s BCI.

A key figure in the board of directors of Permindex was the lawyer Roy Cohn, who was probably the most fierce anticommunist in the crowd connected to this company. In the early days of his career Cohn worked for the law company of CIA director Allen Dulles. Some time later he was the prosecutor in the trial against Julius and Ethel Rosenberg. Their death sentence was seen by Cohn as a big success. Cohn, who was attached to the ‘American Jewish league against communism’, also was a member of the McCarty Committee, that destroyed the lives of many innocent American citizens by accusing them of having communist sympathies.

In Permindex Cohn was the connection between several groups having something against Kennedy. Through his association with mafia hoods like Joseph Bonano (another Permindex board member) he represented organised crime within Permindex. But Cohn was also the connection between Permindex and the Hunts family, the rich oilers from Texas, whos were angry with Kennedy, because he cut their tax benifits. Cohn was also very close with J.Edgar Hoover, the director of the FBI, who saw Kennedy as his main enemy. Hoover was on the point of being fired, like Kennedy did with Allen Dulles. The death of Kennedy made Hoover remaining his position as FBI director.

Other Permindex board members like Clay Shaw and Louis Mortimer Bloomfield peviously had worked for the secret FBI department ‘Division Five’. ‘Pastsy’ Lee Harvey Oswald also worked for Division Five, which became infamous for it’s ‘Cointelpro’, a program aimed at criminalising leftish organisations and black moslim groups. The assassination of Kennedy can be seen as an operation being part of Cointelpro, because criminalising communism was one of the objectives of killing the American president. All the groups involved in this event agreed on this point. After Kennedy got killed a disinformation program started in which the blame was put on (Soviet) communism. In this Oswald appeared as a communist, while in fact he had more contacts in the direction of the far right.

During Cointelpro the Divison Five department of the FBI cooperated with the anti Defamation league of B’nai B’rith (ADL), an organisation representing the interests of Israel in, among other countries, the USA. In its relation with the jewish state, ADL is often mentioned in relation to the Mossad, which on itself was connected in those years by people like CIA agent James Jezus Angleton.

This synopsis gives an impression of the headlines being described in De Moordvrienden, because it is impossible to summarize all the topics being decribed here in just a few pages. Some of the other topics that can’t be described here in full lenght are:

the interests of the weapon industry in the assassination of Kennedy.

Defense Industry Security Command.

the interests of Prince Bernhard’s former employer IG Farben, in the nuclear (weapon) industry.

the intended visit from Kennedy to Indonesia and the interests of Prince Bernhard’s Bilderbergers in this former Dutch colony.

the attempt of Prince Bernhard to have Queen Juliana locked up in a mental hospital, through the so-called ‘Greet Hofmans affair’.

the assassinations of Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, ANC leader Chris Hani, the Maroccan opposition leader Benn Barka and the Italian energy minister Enrico Mattei.

the coalation between the Mossad, the CIA, the French secret service and the Organisation Armee Secret behind the assaults on De Gaulle.

the drugstrade of the Nixon family.

the relations between the Lockheed and Watergate scandals.

the relation between Oswald ‘babysitter’ George de Mohrenschildt and the Dutch journalist Willem Oltmans.

the Valachi papers.

the Souvereign and military Order of Malta

Christine Keeler and Soviet espionage.

the involvement of nazi scientist Werner von Braun in permindex.

the connection between legal casino’s in the Neherlands and the Meyer Lansky criminal empire.

Intertel and the inheritance of Permindex.

De Moordvrienden concludes by stating that Kennedy was not killed by one person, or one group of persons. Instead this American President was assassinated by an international network, representing several anti communist groups, pointing in the direction of Anglosaxon intelligence agencies, zionist organisations and structures left behind by nazi’s and other far right European circles.

It remains a question how much knowledge Prince Bernhard had of Kennedy’s death. In those days he certainly had a prominent position in the anti communist network, that became so manifest in the theories surrounding the Kennedy assassination. Besides that the prince has been in contact with numerous people that came forward in the investigation of New Orleans district attorney Jim Garrison, not only in the direction of the Anglosaxon agencies, but towards zionist organisations as well. But De Moordvrienden also shows that the prince had much to gain from the death of Kennedy, especialliy when it came to the interests of his buddies in the military industrial complex and Bilderberg.

So, allthough his name is never mentioned before by researchers of the Kennedy assassination, according to De Moordvrienden, there is reason enough to associate Bernhard with the death of John F. Kennedy. Because much of his illegal practices are of course being covered by his royal appearance, we are left with several possibilities. In the first place it’s centainly possible that Prince Bernhard still has some secret knowledge concerning the Kennedy assassination. It’s even possible that he had some kind of role in this event, like his friends Rosenbaum and Dulles did. Another possibility is that he played a role in this without having knowdledge of it himself and that he was used on the basis of the ‘need-to-know’ principle, by regions above him. The chance that this happened doesn’t seem to be large, but it’s a possibility, since Bernhard was ‘sacrificed’ later on through the lockheed scandal, which was attached on itself to the downfall of Rosenbaum’s BCI. But all cases the name of Prince Bernhard should be put on the list of people, who together form the landscape surrounding the Kennedy assassination. This is the main point De moordvrienden wants to make.

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The Missing Link In The JFK Assassination Conspiracy

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More Evidence Mossad Killed JFK Over Israeli Nukes

The Missing Link In The JFK Assassination Conspiracy

(Note - The second item below is a letter from JFK to Israeli

Prime Minister Eshkol which makes it crystal clear JFK did NOT want the

Jewish state to develop nuclear weapons and that he was demanding regular US inspections of the Dimona Nuclear facility...which, as we now know, was/is used to develop Israel's enormous inventory of atomic and thermonuclear weapons. The US Air Force white paper regarding past and ongoing Israeli thermonuclear blackmail of the US is a stunning look at how Zionism has exerted such staggering domination over the US for decades. -ed)

After reading: "New JFK Assassination Theory" from WND, it is obvious that it is just more dis-information diverting attention away from the more than likely perpetrators, the Mossad.

It's only fair to remind or inform your readers of the theory posed by Michael Collins Piper in 'Final Judgment'. His theory makes more sense than anything.

Final Judgement Reviewed by Mark Braver

There seems to be a lot of misperception of what Final Judgment does and does not say about the JFK assassination. The book does not say that "the Jews killed JFK." That's horse manure.

What the book does say is that: When New Orleans District Attorney Jim Garrison charged businessman Clay Shaw with participation in the JFK assassination conspiracy Garrison stumbled upon the Israeli Mossad connection to the murder of President Kennedy. Shaw served on the board of a shadowy corporation known as Permindex. A primary shareholder in Permindex was the Banque De Credit International of Geneva, founded by Tibor Rosenbaum, an arms procurer and financier for the Mossad.

What's more, the Mossad-sponsored Swiss bank was the chief "money laundry" for Meyer Lansky, the head of the international crime syndicate and an Israeli loyalist whose operations meshed closely on many fronts with the American CIA.

The chairman of Permindex was Louis M. Bloomfield of Montreal, a key figure in the Israeli lobby and an operative of the Bronfman family of Canada, long-time Lansky associates and among Israel's primary international patrons.

In the pages of "Final Judgment" the Israeli connection to the JFK assassination is explored in frightening--and fully documented--detail. For example, did you know:

That JFK was engaged in a bitter secret conflict with Israel over U.S. East policy and that Israel's prime minister resigned in disgust, saying JFK's stance threatened Israel's very survival?

That JFK's successor, Lyndon Johnson, immediately reversed America's policy toward Israel?

That the top Mafia figures often alleged to be behind the JFK assassination were only front men for Meyer Lansky?

That the CIA's liaison to the Mossad, James Angleton, was a prime mover behind the cover-up of the JFK assassination?

Why didn't Oliver Stone, in his famous movie "JFK" not mention any of this? It turns out the chief financial backer of Stone's film was longtime Mossad figure, Arnon Milchan, Israel's biggest arms dealer.

The very fact that the Israeli lobby has gone through such great lengths to try to smear Michael Collins Piper and to try to discredit Final Judgment gives the book great credibility. If the book was really so silly or so unconvincing, it doesn't seem likely that groups such as the Anti-Defamation League would go out of their way to try to suppress the book as they have.

The fact is that Piper demonstrates that Israel did indeed have a very strong motive to want to get JFK out of the way and that numerous people who have been linked in other writings to the JFK conspiracy were (as Piper documents) also in the sphere of influence of Israel's Mossad.

Not only Clay Shaw in New Orleans, but also James Angleton at the CIA, who was Israel's strongest advocate at the CIA and also the CIA's liaison to the Mossad. The Israeli connection is indeed "the missing link in the JFK assassination conspiracy."

The "Reader from Chicago" who wrote the review of Final Judgment posted here is really off the beam and I suspect he (or she) is deliberately distorting what Piper's book does say in order to try to discourage people from reading it.

The fact is that Piper's book documents (quite clearly, in my estimation) not only the means, opportunity and the motive for Israeli Mossad involvement in the assassination (working in conjunction with the CIA), but it is also quite fascinating and very interesting read. "Boring" is the last word I'd use to describe the book, and it is certainly not "poorly written."

What's more, the book is not--I repeat--not "anti-Semitic" and the book has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the subject of the Holocaust. In fact, anybody familiar with any of the standard writings on the JFK assassination will recognize the names of some of the key players in the scenario Piper documents: Clay Shaw, David Ferrie, Guy Banister and James J. Angleton of the CIA--and none of them were Jewish. So where this reviewer gets off saying that Piper finds "a Jew under every rock" is beyond me. I have read literally hundreds of books and magazine articles and other material on the JFK assassination and not in a single one of them--with the exception of Final Judgment--did I ever learn that President John F. Kennedy was trying to stop Israel from building the nuclear bomb and that this literally touched off a "secret war" behind the scenes between JFK and Israel's prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, who resigned (among other reasons) in disgust over JFK's policies withsrael. In fact, Israeli historian Avner Cohen in his book, Israel and the Bomb, documents this quite thoroughly.

And in Final Judgment Piper also outlines some interesting Israeli connections by people who have been linked to the JFK assassination and cover-up, including Clay Shaw of New Orleans. Even Israeli journalist Barry Chamish has written in an Internet review of Final Judgment that he finds Piper's Israeli connection (via Shaw and Permindex) quite convincing.

There was a controversy in the Chicago area following an attempt by the Anti-Defamation League (an Israeli lobby organization) and people associated with the ADL to prevent Final Judgment from being placed in the Schaumburg Township District Library. Chances are the Reader from Chicago is probably an ADL representative! --This text refers to the Unknown Binding edition.

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JFK's Concern Over Israel's Nuclear Bomb Program

JFK's Letter To Israeli PM Eshkol July 5, 1963

Dear Mr. Prime Minister (Eshkol),

It gives me great personal pleasure to extend congratulations as you assume your responsibilities as Prime Minister of Israel. You have our friendship and best wishes in your new tasks. It is on one of these that I am writing you at this time.

You are aware, I am sure, of the exchange which I had with Prime Minister Ben-Gurion concerning American visits (ie: inspections -ed) to Israel's nuclear facility at Dimona. Most recently, the Prime Minister wrote to me on May 27. His words reflected a most intense personal consideration of a problem that I know is not easy for your Government, as it is not for mine. We welcomed the former Prime Minister's strong reaffirmation that Dimona will be devoted exclusively to peaceful purposes and the reaffirmation also of Israel's willingness to permit periodic visits (ie: inspections -ed) to Dimona.

I regret having to add to your burdens so soon after your assumption of office, but I feel the crucial importance of this problem necessitates my taking up with you at this early date certain further considerations, arising out of Mr. Ben-Gurion's May 27 letter, as to the nature and scheduling of such visits.

I am sure you will agree that these visits should be as nearly as possible in accord with international standards, thereby resolving all doubts as to the peaceful intent of the Dimona project. As I wrote Mr. Ben-Gurion, this Government's commitment to and support of Israel could be seriously jeopardized if it should be thought that we were unable to obtain reliable information on a subject as vital to the peace as the question of Israel's effort in the nuclear field.

Therefore, I asked our scientists to review the alternative schedules of visits we and you had proposed. If Israel's purposes are to be clear beyond reasonable doubt, I believe that the schedule which would best serve our common purposes would be a visit early this summer, another visit in June 1964, and thereafter at intervals of six months. I am sure that such a schedule should not cause you any more difficulty than that which Mr. Ben-Gurion proposed in his May 27 letter. It would be essential, and I understand that Mr. Ben-Gurion's letter was in accord with this, that our scientist have access to all areas of the Dimona site and to any related part of the complex, such as fuel fabrication facilities or plutonium separation plant, and that sufficient time to be allotted for a thorough examination.

Knowing that you fully appreciate the truly vital significance of this matter to the future well-being of Israel, to the United States, and internationally, I am sure our carefully considered request will have your most sympathetic attention.

Sincerely,

John F. Kennedy

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Then make these more obvious associations:

Solving the JFK hit is really as simple as connecting the godfathers of the Mossad to their Talmudist Rabbi Tibor Rosenbaum Mossad/Mafia bank, then PERMINDEX with Nagy, Mandel, Bloomfield. This is the high command for the JFK hit. Lots of it ties back to Hungary, some to IG Farbins NW 7 outfit that became the "Defense Industrial Security Command" system in the US version implementation run by Bloomfield for Hoover and Div 5.

http://johnfitzgeraldkennedy.net/mossadandtheassassination.htm

Mossad And The JFK Assassination

"Israel need not apologize for the assassination

or destruction of those who seek to destroy it.

The first order of business for any country

is the protection of its people."

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In March, 1992, Illinois Representative Paul Findley said in The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, "It is interesting - but not surprising - to note that in all the words written and uttered about the Kennedy assassination, Israel's intelligence agency, the Mossad, has never been mentioned."

Considering that the Mossad is quite possibly the most ruthless and efficient intelligence agency in the world, it is peculiar that they have never been scrutinized in relation to the Kennedy assassination, especially when practically every other entity in the world (short of Elvis impersonators) has been implicated. But that all changed in January, 1994 with the release of Michael Collins Piper's Final Judgment. In this book, Piper says, "Israel's Mossad was a primary (and critical) behind the scenes player in the conspiracy that ended the life of JFK. Through its own vast resources and through its international contacts in the intelligence community and in organized crime, Israel had the means, it had the opportunity, and it had the motive to play a major frontline role in the crime of the century - and it did."

Their motive? Israel's much touted Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion, who ruled that country from its inception in 1948 until he resigned on June 16, 1963, was so enraged at John F. Kennedy for not allowing Israel to become a nuclear power that, Collins asserts, in his final days in office he commanded the Mossad to become involved in a plot to kill America's president.

Ben-Gurion was so convinced that Israel's very survival was in dire jeopardy that in one of his final letters to JFK he said, "Mr. President, my people have the right to exist, and this existence is in danger."

In the days leading up to Ben-Gurion's resignation from office, he and JFK had been involved in an unpublicized, contentious debate over the possibility of Israel getting nuclear capabilities. Their disagreement eventually escalated into a full-fledged war of words that was virtually ignored in the press. Ethan Bronner wrote about this secret battle between JFK and Ben-Gurion years later in a New York Times article on October 31, 1998, calling it a "fiercely hidden subject." In fact, the Kennedy/Ben-Gurion conversations are still classified by the United States Government. Maybe this is the case because Ben-Gurion's rage and frustration became so intense - and his power so great within Israel - that Piper contends it was at the center of the conspiracy to kill John Kennedy. This stance is supported by New York banker Abe Feinberg, who describes the situation as such: "Ben-Gurion could be vicious, and he had such a hatred of the old man [Joe Kennedy, Sr., JFK's father]." Ben-Gurion despised Joe Kennedy because he felt that not only was he an anti-Semite, but that he had also sided with Hitler during the 1930's and 40's. [We will touch upon this aspect of the story in an upcoming article entitled The CIA and Organized Crime: Two Sides of the Same Coin].

Anyway, Ben-Gurion was convinced that Israel needed nuclear weapons to insure its survival, while Kennedy was dead-set against it. This inability to reach an agreement caused obvious problems. One of them revolved around Kennedy's decision that he would make America his top priority in regard to foreign policy, and not Israel! Kennedy planned to honor the 1950 Tripartite Declaration which said that the United States would retaliate against any nation in the Middle East that attacked any other country. Ben-Gurion, on the other hand, wanted the Kennedy Administration to sell them offensive weapons, particularly Hawk missiles.

The two leaders thus engaged in a brutal letter exchange, but Kennedy wouldn't budge. Ben-Gurion, obsessed by this issue, slipped into total paranoia, feeling that Kennedy's obstinance was a blatant threat to the very existence of Israel as a nation. Piper writes, "Ben-Gurion had devoted a lifetime creating a Jewish State and guiding it into the world arena. And, in Ben-Gurion's eyes, John F. Kennedy was an enemy of the Jewish people and his beloved state of Israel." He continues, "The 'nuclear option' was not only at the very core of Ben-Gurion's personal world view, but the very foundation of Israel's national security policy."

Ben-Gurion was so preoccupied with obtaining nuclear weapons that on June 27, 1963, eleven days after resigning from office, he announced, "I do not know of any other nation whose neighbors declare that they wish to terminate it, and not only declare, but prepare for it by all means available to them. We must have no illusions that what is declared every day in Cairo, Damascus, and Iraq are just words. This is the thought that guides the Arab leaders … I am confident … that science is able to provide us with the weapons that will serve the peace and deter our enemies."

Avner Cohen, in Israel and the Bomb, published by Columbia University Press, reinforces this sense of urgency by writing, "Imbued with lessons of the Holocaust, Ben-Gurion was consumed by fears of security … Anxiety about the Holocaust reached beyond Ben-Gurion to infuse Israel's military thinking." He further adds fuel to this point by pointing out, "Ben-Gurion had no qualms about Israel's need for weapons of mass destruction," and "Ben-Gurion's world view and his decisive governing style shaped his critical role in instigating Israel's nuclear progress."

Kennedy, on the other hand, was adamant in his refusal to promote Israel's ascension to the nuclear stage. Avener Cohen, in Israel and the Bomb, stresses, "No American president was more concerned with the danger of nuclear proliferation than John Fitzgerald Kennedy. He was convinced that the spread of nuclear weapons would make the world more dangerous and undermine U.S. interests." Cohen continues at the end of this passage, "The only example Kennedy used to make this point was Israel."

Realizing that Kennedy would not change his mind, Ben-Gurion decided to join forces with Communist China. Both countries were greatly interested in creating nuclear programs, and so began their secret joint dealings. Working in unison through intermediary Shaul Eisenberg, who was a partner of Mossad gun-runner and accountant Tibor Rosenbaum, Israel and China proceeded to develop their own nuclear capabilities without the knowledge of the United States.

If you find this scenario improbable, I strongly urge you to read Gordon Thomas' excellent book, Seeds of Fire, where he exposes how the Mossad and CSIS (Chinese secret service) have conspired on many occasions to not only steal American military secrets, but to also doctor U.S. intelligence programs such as the Justice Department's PROMISE software. This instance, I am afraid to say, is but the first where echoes of the JFK assassination can still be felt today reverberating through our post 9-11 world. The danger of Israel developing the Bomb in unison with China became a highly volatile situation, and was closely monitored by the CIA.

Intent on pursuing this path, the Israeli's constructed a nuclear facility at Dimona. When Kennedy demanded that the U.S. inspect this plant, Ben-Gurion was so incensed that he erected another PHONY facility that held no evidence of nuclear research and development. (Does this scenario sound eerily familiar to the game we're playing with Saddam Hussein in Iraq right now?) Fully aware of their shenanigans, though, JFK told Charles Bartlett, "The sons of bitches lie to me constantly about their nuclear capability."

Avner Cohen, in Israel and the Bomb, reiterates this claim by saying that Ben-Gurion had taken the nuclear issue so closely to heart that he, "concluded that he could not tell the truth about Dimona to American leaders, not even in private."

Dr. Gerald M. Steinberg, political science professor at Bar-Ilan University's BESA Center for Strategic Studies in Tel Aviv, weighs in by saying, "Between 1961 and 1963, the Kennedy administration placed a great deal of pressure on Ben-Gurion in the effort to pressure for acceptance of international inspection of Dimona and Israeli abdication of their nuclear weapons. This pressure apparently did not alter Israeli policy, but it was a contributing factor to Ben-Gurion's resignation in 1963."

To convey how serious this situation had become in modern terms, look at what is happening in Iraq with United Nations security teams inspecting the royal palaces and bunkers for nuclear weapons and materials. This matter is so urgent that our nation is on the verge of war. Forty years earlier, the heat that JFK was placing on Ben-Gurion was equally as strong as what George Bush is laying on Saddam Hussein today.

In Israel and the Bomb, Avner Cohen reinforces this point. "To force Ben-Gurion to accept the conditions, Kennedy exerted the most useful leverage available to an American president in dealing with Israel: a threat that an unsatisfactory solution would jeopardize the U.S. government's commitment to, and support of, Israel."

The pressure on Ben-Gurion was so immense that he ended up leaving office. But Kennedy, in true pit-bull style, didn't let up on Ben-Gurion's successor, Levi Eshkol, as Avner Cohen reports. "Kennedy told Eshkol that the U.S. commitment and support of Israel 'could be seriously jeopardized' if Israel did not let the U.S. obtain 'reliable information' about its efforts in the nuclear field. Kennedy's demands were unprecedented. They amounted, in effect, to an ultimatum." Cohen concludes this thought by asserting, "Kennedy's letter precipitated a near-crisis situation in Eshkol's office."

In the end, as we're all aware, Kennedy was assassinated in November 1963; but less known is that China conducted its first nuclear test in October, 1964. What makes this event more profound is Piper's claim that even though Israel said its first nuclear tests took place in 1979, they actually occurred in October, 1964 along with the Chinese! If this is true, other than August, 1945 when the United States dropped atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, October 1964 may possibly be the most dangerous month in 20th century history.

Let's return, though, to JFK's assassination and the direct results of it in regard to the Jewish lobby, American foreign policy, and the militarization of Israel. To understand how powerful the Israeli lobby is in this country, venerable Senator J. William Fulbright told CBS Face the Nation on April 15, 1973, "Israel controls the U.S. Senate. The Senate is subservient, much too much; we should be more concerned about U.S. interests rather than doing the bidding of Israel. The great majority of the Senate of the U.S. - somewhere around 80% - is completely in support of Israel; anything Israel wants; Israel gets. This has been demonstrated time and again, and this has made [foreign policy] difficult for our government."

Do you hear what Senator Fulbright said? This isn't a crazy conspiracy theorist or a KKK anti-Semite. It's a much-respected U.S. Senator saying that about 80% of the Senate is in Israel's hip pocket. Adding clout to this argument is Rep. Paul Findley, who was quoted in The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs in March, 1992, "During John Kennedy's campaign for the presidency, a group of New York Jews had privately offered to meet his campaign expenses if he would let them set his Middle East policy. He did not agree … As the president, he provided only limited support of Israel."

To understand how important Kennedy's decisions were during his short-lived presidency, we need to look at the issue of campaign finance. Considering how influential the Israeli lobby is in the U.S. Senate (hearkening back to the words of Senator Fulbright), they had to have been enraged when President Kennedy genuinely wanted to cut the knees out from under the current campaign finance methods because it made politicians so reliant upon the huge cash inlays of special-interest groups. Regrettably, Kennedy did not have the time to implement this program, and to this day our political system is still monopolized by lobbyists from the very same special-interest groups. One can only imagine what changes would have occurred in regard to our foreign policy had Kennedy eradicated these vipers and blood-suckers from the halls of Congress.

Tragically, Kennedy's ideas never came to fruition, and his heated battle with Prime Minister Ben-Gurion over whether Israel should be allowed to develop a nuclear program was ultimately lost. The reason why is that Lyndon Baines Johnson, who Kennedy intended to drop from his ticket in 1964 due to his extreme dislike for, had a complete reversal in foreign policy. As you will see, not only did Israel's nuclear program move ahead unchecked; they also became the primary beneficiary of our foreign aid.

But this absolute turnaround would not have occurred if Kennedy would not have been assassinated. Up until LBJ became president, Kennedy dealt with the Middle East in a way that most benefited the U.S. His primary goal - and one which would most keep the peace - was a balance of power in the Middle East so that each and every nation would be secure. This decision adhered to the Tripartite Declaration which the U.S. signed in 1950. But under the Johnson administration, this fragile balance was overturned, and by 1967 - only four years after Kennedy's assassination - the U.S. was Israel's main weapons supplier, and OUR best interests were put well behind those of Israel!

As Michael Collins Piper writes: "The bottom line is this: JFK was adamantly determined to stop Israel from building the nuclear bomb. LBJ simply looked the other way. JFK's death did indeed prove beneficial to Israel's nuclear ambitions and the evidence proves it."

Reuven Pedatzer, in a review of Avner Cohen's Israel and the Bomb, in the Israeli Newspaper Ha'aretz on February 5, 1999 wrote, "The murder of American president John F. Kennedy brought to an abrupt end the massive pressure being applied by the U.S. administration on the government of Israel to discontinue their nuclear program." He continues, "Kennedy made it quite clear to the Israeli Prime Minister that he would not under any circumstances agree to Israel becoming a nuclear state." Pedatzer concludes, "Had Kennedy remained alive, it is doubtful whether Israel would today have a nuclear option," and that, "Ben-Gurion's decision to resign in 1963 was taken to a large extent against the background of the tremendous pressure that Kennedy was applying on him concerning the nuclear issue."

If you're still not convinced; how about some numbers? In Kennedy's last fiscal budget year of 1964, Israeli aid was $40 million. In LBJ's first budget of 1965, it soared to $71 million, and in 1966 more than tripled from two years earlier to $130 million! Plus, during Kennedy's administration, almost none of our aid to Israel was military in nature. Instead, it was split equally between development loans and food assistance under the PL480 Program. Yet in 1965 under the Johnson administration, 20% of our aid to Israel was for the military, while in 1966, 71% was used for war-related materials.

Continuing in this same vein, in 1963 the Kennedy administration sold 5 Hawk missiles to Israel as part of an air-defense system. In 1965-66, though, LBJ laid 250 tanks on Israel, 48 Skyhawk attack aircrafts, plus guns and artillery which were all offensive in nature. If you ever wondered when the Israeli War Machine was created, this is it! LBJ was its father.

According to Stephen Green in Taking Sides: America's Secret Relations with a Militant Israel, "The $92 million in military assistance provided in fiscal year 1966 was greater than the total of all official military aid provided to Israel cumulatively in all the years going back to the foundation of that nation in 1948."

Green continues, "70% of all U.S. official assistance to Israel has been military. America has given Israel over $17 billion in military aid since 1946, virtually all of which - over 99% - has been provided since 1965."

Can you see what's happening here? Within two years of JFK's assassination, Israel went from being a weak, outmatched member of the volatile Middle Eastern community that was not allowed to develop nuclear weapons to one that was well on its way to becoming a undeniable military force on the world stage. John Kennedy adamantly put his foot down and refused to allow Israel to develop a nuclear program, while LBJ bent over backward to facilitate and bolster them. Or, as Seymour Hersh wrote in The Samson Option, "By 1968, the president had no intention of doing anything to stop the Israeli bomb."

The result of this shift in focus from the Kennedy to Johnson administration is, in my opinion, the PRIMARY reason behind our current troubles in the Middle East which culminated in the 9-11 attacks and our upcoming war with Iraq (and beyond). I have a great deal of confidence in this statement, for as Michael Collins Piper points out, here are the results of John F. Kennedy's assassination:

1) Our foreign and military aid to Israel increased dramatically once LBJ became president.

2) Rather than trying to maintain a BALANCE in the Middle East, Israel suddenly emerged as the dominant force.

3) Since the LBJ administration, Israel has always had weaponry that was superior to any of its direct neighbors.

4) Due to this undeniable and obvious increase in Israel's War Machine, a constant struggle has been perpetuated in the Middle East.

5) LBJ also allowed Israel to proceed with its nuclear development, resulting in them becoming the 6th largest nuclear force in the world.

6) Finally, our huge outlays of foreign aid to Israel (approximately $10 billion/year when all is said and done) has created a situation of never-ending attacks and retaliation in the Middle East, plus outright scorn and enmity against the U.S. for playing the role of Israel's military enabler.

In Israel's, and especially David Ben-Gurion's eyes then, what were their alternatives - to remain weakened (or at least balanced) in relation to their neighbors and handcuffed by JFK's refusal to bow to their will, or KILL the one man standing in their way to becoming dominant in the Middle East, the recipient of huge amounts of military aid, and one of the premier nuclear forces in the world? It's something to think about. Also, while these thoughts are running through your head, ask yourself this question. If Kennedy, LBJ, and all subsequent administrations would have adhered to the 1950 Tripartite Declaration and did everything in their power to maintain balance in the Middle East instead of pushing Israel to the forefront, would our Towers have been attacked on 9-11, 2001, and would we be on the verge of a possibly catastrophic war today? It's certainly something to ponder.

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Edited by Jim Phelps
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Even Jean Hill as one of the closest witnesses to JFK being hit sees the hair bulge at the back of JFK's head from the shot off the Grassy Hill area.

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http://www.clintbrad...om/whitmey1.htm

She also recalled seeing "..the hair on the back of President Kennedy's head fly up" followed by Mrs. Kennedy crying out that he had been shot as "..the President fell forward in his seat."

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Bob Harris has done a great job in allowing us to see better what Jean Hill witnessed that day.

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