Some new Movie film alleged to be LHO and Sturgis

[Jim Phelps]

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[Kathleen Collins]

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I don't see anyone in that clip that resembles Lee Harvey Oswald.

I do. This is Oswald with a lot of hair on his head and a nose like Pinocchio, but it's Oswald. I think I see David Morales in the picture too.

Kathy C

Edited December 19, 2011 by Kathleen Collins

[Don Roberdeau]

This item appears to be sourced from Wim D. and/or Scott K.

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Good Day Jim.... That is, most definitely, not LEE H. OSWALD....

the grew-up-fatherless,

"I-Led-Three-Lives"-anti-Communist (Right wing)-TV-show-devoted,

"Civil-Air-Patrol" (Right wing)-member,

FERRIE (Right wing)-acquaintance,

"Cold-War"-anti-Communist (Right wing)-volunteer-ex-U.S. Marine-marksman,

anti-Communists-Russia (Left wing)-and-anti-Communists-China (Left wing)-U-2-jet-surveillances-programs (Right wing)-U.S.-Top-Secret-clearance-granted,

U.S.-Marine-"Oswaldovich"-seemingly-pro-Communist-pro-Marxist-sympathizer (Left wing)

Communist-Russia (Left wing)-language-learning,

Communist-Russia (Left wing)-temporary-defector,

Russian-marrying,

alleged-informant-or-low-level-U.S.-government-agent,

anti-Communist (Right wing)-anti-Castro-posing,

pro-Communist (Left wing)-pro-Castro-posing,

pro-JFK (Left wing),

DeMOHRENSCHILDT (Left wing)-friend,

General-WALKER (Right wing)-alleged-shooting-at,

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HSCA-apologists-killed-in-Dallas-police-custody-with-Dallas-police-help by the many-Mafioso's-connected JACK RUBY (Left wing),

Best Regards in Research,

Don

Donald Roberdeau

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Edited December 20, 2011 by Don Roberdeau

[Jim Phelps]

I didn't want to bias the opinions, but my opinion is that this is not LHO. But that does look like Frank Sturgis.

[Robert Howard]

I didn't want to bias the opinions, but my opinion is that this is not LHO. But that does look like Frank Sturgis.

I don't want to sound like I think everybody is missing the boat on this, but when you get to, I believe it is the youtube site, [there was a second version of this clip] someone wrote that the "Oswald" character is standing "behind the man with the gun." and in that short clip, there is only one second in the film where "he" faces the camera, which is at eleven seconds into the video; the person everybody is joking about is not, from what I can tell relevant to the Oswald character. Also as Mr. Phelps alluded to, it seems like perhaps it was posted by Wim Daankbar.

Also when you get into the youtube site, I saw something that led me to believe that the video, Mr. Phelps [why do I associate that name with the original Mission Impossible tv series?] posted is taken from the beginning of a 1969 Italian documentary, roughly translated as "I Due Kennedy or The Two Kennedy's." That video is very compelling, it is full of, apparently, original footage from Dealey Plaza on the day of the assassination, from what I can tell...I haven't had time to go through......I Due Kennedy, it is approximately one hour and fifty minutes long and recorded in Italian. But I plan on viewing it over the holiday's.

See

Edited December 21, 2011 by Robert Howard

[Kathleen Collins]

It's not Oswald, it's Michael Rennie. Klaatu had the day off.

Klaatu barada nikto

This was how Michael Rennie looked. The LHO man has a different posture than the real Lee Harvey Oswald.

Kathy C

Edited December 21, 2011 by Kathleen Collins

[Thomas Graves]

It's not Oswald, it's Michael Rennie. Klaatu had the day off.

Klaatu barada nikto

This was how Michael Rennie looked:

Kathy C

You realize of course they're talking about the guy standing behind Sturgis.

You can't see him in this photo. Ya gotta go to 1:04:54 in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLpfVBiQi-Q

--Tommy

Edited January 8, 2014 by Thomas Graves

[Greg Burnham]

That is definitely Sturgis.

[Thomas Graves]

It's not Oswald, it's Michael Rennie. Klaatu had the day off.

Klaatu barada nikto

This was how Michael Rennie looked:

Kathy C

You realize of course they're talking about the guy standing behind Sturgis. You can't see him in this photo. In the top video the guy who looks like LHO looks briefly at the camera buy you can only see about one half of his face. The he bends down to pick something up. Ya gotta watch the videos. And guess what... He does look like LHO. FWIW, I think I've spotted Dennis Harber standing next to Sturgis and Bernardo de Torres standing on the right near Marita Lorentz. And the big guy sitting down on the right looks a bit like Gerry Hemming, except this guy might be black (Nestor Izquierdo?). Hard to tell because his face is shaded by his hat. Interesting videos.

--Tommy

bump

Edited December 21, 2011 by Thomas Graves

[John Kelly]

That is definitely Sturgis.

Greg is right, that is definitely Sturgis but not LHO. It is a reporter whose name escapes me for now. The film was taken in 1961 at a parachuting practice ground run by a guy named Popperwell or smothing similar. My memory is not what it used to be. There were also some press photographs taken that day one of which shows Hemming, Sturgis and Larry deJoseph. James Richards has posted it here before. JK

[Thomas Graves]

That is definitely Sturgis.

Greg is right, that is definitely Sturgis but not LHO. It is a reporter whose name escapes me for now. The film was taken in 1961 at a parachuting practice ground run by a guy named Popperwell or smothing similar. My memory is not what it used to be. There were also some press photographs taken that day one of which shows Hemming, Sturgis and Larry deJoseph. James Richards has posted it here before. JK (emphasis added by T. Graves)

For cryin'out loud. Everybody's talking about the wrong guy. Please read my post #12, above. Can't anybody here take the time to actually watch the videos and read the accompanying text? And you call yourselves <deleted>.

--Tommy

Edited December 22, 2011 by Thomas Graves

[Mark Haley]

This is the man Thomas refers to in an earlier post.

He was literally viewable for a second during the Italian documentary (at 1hr 04m 54 secs) but intriguingly ducked his head down the instant he saw the camera.

[Mark Haley]

And a group shot:

[Jim Phelps]

That is definitely Sturgis.

Greg is right, that is definitely Sturgis but not LHO. It is a reporter whose name escapes me for now. The film was taken in 1961 at a parachuting practice ground run by a guy named Popperwell or smothing similar. My memory is not what it used to be. There were also some press photographs taken that day one of which shows Hemming, Sturgis and Larry deJoseph. James Richards has posted it here before. JK

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The assertion on the Italian Film being the source for this clip appears to be correct. Might be good to review the film in its entirity.

IF, this was filmed in 1961, then I think LHO does not return from Russia until Feb. 1962, making it very difficult for the person in the deeper background to be LHO.

[Thomas Graves]

And a group shot:

Thanks, Mark.



--Tommy

P.S. For those of you who are still laboring under the delusion that we're talking about the guy on the far left--- wrong! We're talking about the guy who is partially visible behind Frank Sturgis (the dude holding the pistol near his head). Edited January 8, 2014 by Thomas Graves