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I am still doing my reading on the possible body alteration. I sleep with youtube on. Sometime during the night I heard that early on the 26th of November,1963 Jackie and the brothers went to Arlington to bury the brain and other tissues of President Kennedy's. And that it was secret. There is a photo of Ted Kennedy, standing near an open grave with a stainless steel container on the ground next to him. But that photo comes from 1967 when they were reburying the President. I cannot find that photo.

I also remember hearing that (probably Liggett) someone shaved in part Tippit's eyebrows to make him look more like Kennedy.

Kathy C

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I am still doing my reading on the possible body alteration. I sleep with youtube on. Sometime during the night I heard that early on the 26th of November,1963 Jackie and the brothers went to Arlington to bury the brain and other tissues of President Kennedy's. And that it was secret. There is a photo of Ted Kennedy, standing near an open grave with a stainless steel container on the ground next to him. But that photo comes from 1967 when they were reburying the President. I cannot find that photo.

I also remember hearing that (probably Liggett) someone shaved in part Tippit's eyebrows to make him look more like Kennedy.

Kathy C

The pictures of RFK and McNamara at the Arlington reinterment were up here several years ago in a thread probably devoted to the subject. The container was in some photos. I posted and Bill Kelly posted on that thread, if it helps you search.

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This is an excerpt from LewRockwell.com, November 17, 2014 used for

educational reasons.

"Immediately after JFK’s assassination, Liggett was called while at

work at Restland Funeral Home. He rushed to Parkland, calling his

wife only once to let her know that he had been asked to work on the

President and that he would call her, she shouldn’t try to call him.

According to Billie Sol Estes, in his book Billie Sol Estes — A Texas

Legend, Liggett left Restland with an assistant, taking a body that

had been stored in the morgue that was similar to JFK’s body and

prepared to look like a rear head shot was the cause of death.

Estes stated that the second body was used to create false

evidence and that photographs, x-rays and even the complete brain

from that cadaver were substituted for JFK’s autopsy 'records' in

order to re-frame the documents to conform to the official story;

moreover, he stated that all of this was sent first to the White House

before being sent to the FBI, the Warren Commission and the

National Archives.

"According to Estes, the 'other body' was taken to Washington on a

private jet. If that story is true, it is a possible explanation of the

provenance of the discrepancies that exist in photographs and

x-rays which could not have been taken of Kennedy’s head. It might

also explain the enigma, noted elsewhere, of the supposed

existence of JFK’s complete brain, weighing 1500 grams, more than

an average male brain, as reported by several authors; that is

impossible, since most of his brain had been blown out the back of his head, much

of it splattering the motorcycle policeman B. J. Martin in the process. The

scenario that I previously portrayed, in LBJ: The Mastermind, had been based

partly on David Lifton’s early research, but I independently concluded that JFK’s

body was moved to a shipping crate and put on 'Air Force 2.' I have since

reevaluated that, based upon Lifton’s latest research, pending publication, which

clarifies that and proves that JFK’s body was indeed simply moved to the cargo

hold of Air Force One immediately upon delivery of the ornate casket, while the

Kennedy party was still on the tarmac. Lifton explained his findings at an address

in November, 2013, at Bismarck State University, which is available for viewing

on a Youtube video.

"Mr. Lifton has recently advised me that his latest work, now underway, will

address this point further as he has obtained additional information on how JFK’s

body was moved to Washington. Researcher / author Doug Horne has also

written what is arguably the most detailed, meticulously documented account of

the events on Air Force One and Bethesda Naval Hospital ever written to date:

The AF1 Tapes and Subsequent Events at Andrews AFB on November 22, 1963:

What Was Supposed to Happen vs. What Did Happen at the Future of Freedom

Foundation website. As I previously noted, the overall story portrayed does not

hinge on which of these scenarios was the true and complete one, the details of

which may never be known with absolute certainty. The one thing that is certain is

that the 'official' version described by the Warren Commission cannot be

reconciled with the numerous contradictions which have already been identified in

a number of books and summarized here.

"According to Episode 7 (The Smoking Guns) of The Men Who Killed Kennedy, a

day after the assassination, John Liggett returned home, unshaven, disheveled

and very tired. According to his wife, “he looked like he had been in a traumatic

event.” Yet he immediately took his wife and three step-children to Austin and San

Antonio, talking briefly and furtively to men he met at each stop as he rushed from

Dallas to these other cities, even getting a speeding ticket between Dallas and

Austin. He then took the family on to Corpus Christi, where on Sunday morning

they watched Jack Ruby shoot Oswald on live television. Upon seeing that

stunning event, he turned to his wife and said calmly, “Everything’s OK now. . . and

you could just see his face, it was like all the pressure had been taken off of him.”

Shortly after the assassination, John Liggett came into a lot of money and bought

an expensive Dallas home and then became the host of numerous high-stakes

poker parties. At one of these parties, the daughter of Lois Liggett, Debra Godwin,

stated that David Ferrie — who was a long-time acquaintance, and a short-time

'handler' of Lee Harvey Oswald in the summer of 1963 in New Orleans —

appeared, and that John said he had known him while he served in the Civil Air

Patrol."

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Mortician Liggett was considered the best cosmetician in the country. Did he

actually use J.D. Tippit's body to disguise him as Kennedy so it would look like the

bullets came from the back and up.

Kathy C

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Ray, here is a link to the Stare of Death photo and you can see a mole on

his left shoulder.

http://www.jfkmurdersolved.com/autopsy.htm

Kathy C

Yes, Kath, the body at the autopsy had a mole (the first photo shown above is from the autopsy.) However, I have been unable to find a photo of JFK, chest exposed, which shows a similar mole.

Here's another photo of JFK sans mole. JFK%20Shirtless_zpsgxlid5gh.jpg

Anybody know if JFK or Tippit had a mole on their left shoulder?

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In the autopsy photo, where they have Kennedy sitting or standing up, his

ear is exactly the same as President Kennedy's. There are other things --

his hair color -- Jackie took a lock of it. The amount of hair he has. Tippit's

hairline was receding. Kennedy had so much hair. I believe Robert

Morningstar started this. He's a bit like David Icke, somewhat psychic.

Kathy C

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According to Dr Humes, the incisions in the chest of the body at the autopsy

A couple of small incised wounds on the chest, and I forget--I wrote down, wherever I wrote it down, that it looked to

me like somebody was going to think of putting in a chest tube. But they never did, because all they did was go through the skin."

Yet according to Dr Perry

"But in the presence of this large amount of blood in this area, one would be unable to detect small injuries to the underlying structures. The air was indicated by the fact that there was some frothing of this blood present, bubbling which could have been due to the tracheal injury or an underlying injury to the lung.

Since the morbidity attendant upon insertion of an anterior chest tube for sealed drainage is negligible and the morbidity which attends a pneumothorax is considerable, I elected to have the chest tube put in place because we were giving him positive pressure oxygen and the possibility of inducing a tension on pneumothorax would be quite high in such instances."

​They inserted chest tubes as they would normally have done.

How can one doctor say the the chest tubes were inserted and the other that they weren't, if it was the same body?

​Something smells of fish.

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According to Dr Humes, the incisions in the chest of the body at the autopsy

A couple of small incised wounds on the chest, and I forget--I wrote down, wherever I wrote it down, that it looked to

me like somebody was going to think of putting in a chest tube. But they never did, because all they did was go through the skin."

Yet according to Dr Perry

"But in the presence of this large amount of blood in this area, one would be unable to detect small injuries to the underlying structures. The air was indicated by the fact that there was some frothing of this blood present, bubbling which could have been due to the tracheal injury or an underlying injury to the lung.

Since the morbidity attendant upon insertion of an anterior chest tube for sealed drainage is negligible and the morbidity which attends a pneumothorax is considerable, I elected to have the chest tube put in place because we were giving him positive pressure oxygen and the possibility of inducing a tension on pneumothorax would be quite high in such instances."

​They inserted chest tubes as they would normally have done.

How can one doctor say the the chest tubes were inserted and the other that they weren't, if it was the same body?

​Something smells of fish.

Do we see these Parkland chest incisions in the Bethesda "Stare of Death" photo(s)?

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Ray, this might be the same link. It's David Lifton's theories and findings. He wrote Best Evidence, which says

Kennedy's body was altered between Parkland and Bethesda. This was the first book that said this. He doesn't

believe J.D.Tippit's body was switched with Kennedy's.

https://www.youtube.com/user/nightfri...

http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=48091&r...Best…

YOUTUBE.COM

I know Brent Holland did a show with Joseph McBride who wrote a book on Tippit. But I can't

find it.

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David, thank you for the info about the reburial of President Kennedy. I didn't know McNamara was there.

There was a famous Archbishop there as well. Jackie showed up afterwards. The National Guard was there

that night, all over the cemetery.

Kathy C

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