Robin Unger Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Even in this large Groden scan, it just doesn't have enough image detail to be able to support Hookes outrages shirt claims Click on image to view FULL SIZE: Edited March 3, 2013 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest James H. Fetzer Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Chris, I would appreciate it if you would give me your anwers to both: Is Doorman wearing a red-and-white short-sleeved shirt? YES or NO Is the shirt Doorman is wearing buttoned up to the top? YES or NO They are not difficult questions. The answers are obvious. What are they? Jim, My answers to your questions are obvious. No and No. chris Chris, THANK YOU! An honest answer from an honest man! You have no idea how much those simple answers means to me. Warm regards, Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest James H. Fetzer Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) But of course these studies are not necessary to resolve the question, right? Just answer those two simple questions, Robin Unger and Criag Lamson: Is Doorman wearing a red-and-white short-sleeved shirt? YES or NO Is the shirt Doorman is wearing buttoned up to the top? YES or NO They are not difficult questions and their answers are obvious. So tell us! Apparently, Robin Unger is also ignorant of copyright law. When someone's work is being subjected to criticism, there is no copyright violation. Here are a couple more of Richard Hooke's brilliant studies. Hookes studies are a complete waste of time. You can't tell anything from these piss poor resolution collages. Is this the best you have to offer, ? that is the worst copy of altgen's 6 i have ever seen. ROFLMAO Edited March 3, 2013 by James H. Fetzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Elbow man side on right profile, arm up in a salute, elbow facing directly towards altgens camera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 But of course these studies are not necessary to resolve the question, right? Just answer those two simple questions, Robin Unger and Criag Lamson: Is Doorman wearing a red-and-white short-sleeved shirt? YES or NO Is the shirt Doorman is wearing buttoned up to the top? YES or NO They are not difficult questions and their answers are obvious. So tell us! Apparently, Robin Unger is also ignorant of copyright law. When someone's work is being subjected to criticism, there is no copyright violation. Here are a couple more of Richard Hooke's brilliant studies. Hookes studies are a complete waste of time. You can't tell anything from these piss poor resolution collages. Is this the best you have to offer, ? that is the worst copy of altgen's 6 i have ever seen. ROFLMAO Quote: But of course these studies are not necessary to resolve the question, right? Not only are these studies not necessary to resolve the question,but they are not necessary at all They are the most poorly done, confusing mishmash of jumbled garbage i have ever seen. You need to get yourself another photo interpretation guy, because Hooke just isn't up to scratch. If this is the stuff that you are using to come up with your theories, then it is no wonder you are so confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Even in this large Groden scan, it just doesn't have enough image detail to be able to support Hookes outrages shirt claims Click on image to view FULL SIZE: Robin, the blow up of the photo shows without any doubt that doorway man is slanted to his left meaning his left shoulder is at about 30degrees off horizontal.Shows that the idea that the houlder is mssing and that "black tie man" is at the same time in front of and behind doorway man is a load of horse hooey as shown in previous posts when the Buda pest was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Even in this large Groden scan, it just doesn't have enough image detail to be able to support Hookes outrages shirt claims Click on image to view FULL SIZE: Robin, the blow up of the photo shows without any doubt that doorway man is slanted to his left meaning his left shoulder is at about 30degrees off horizontal.Shows that the idea that the houlder is mssing and that "black tie man" is at the same time in front of and behind doorway man is a load of horse hooey as shown in previous posts when the Buda pest was here. Altgens6 Black man as seen still standing on the steps in Willis,transposed onto Wiegman Colorization showing that the reason doormans hand is not visible, is because it is hidden from view behind the black mans left shoulder. this also proves that doormans sleeve was not elongated as some say, but was of normal length As in the animation above, the blackmans left shoulder lines up perfectly with doomans arm sleeve when the willis image is reduces to the same scale as Wiegman Edited March 3, 2013 by Robin Unger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest James H. Fetzer Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Robin Unger is grasping after straws. The man's left shoulder IS missing, Black Tie Man is BOTH IN FRONT OF HIM AND BEHIND HIM AT THE SAME TIME, and Obfuscated Man's face IS obfuscated, not to mention the peculiar profile of the black man's face. Robin is attempting to distract attention from the fact that he is running away from my questions: Robin, I would appreciate it if you would give me your anwers to both: Is Doorman wearing a red-and-white short-sleeved shirt? YES or NO Is the shirt Doorman is wearing buttoned up to the top? YES or NO They are not difficult questions. The answers are obvious. What are they? Obviously, Richard Hooke is much better at photo analysis than Robin Unger. They were as desperate to turn Billy Lovelady in to Doorman as Unger is to deny that it was Oswald. Here's an example of Lovelady fakery. I can't wait to hear Robin Unger "explain it away": Edited March 3, 2013 by James H. Fetzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Willis 8 Crop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest James H. Fetzer Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 You can't bring yourself to answer simple questions. This is beyond belief! But then, I know, you are doing the best that you can. It is dumbfounding. The degree of disregard for logic and evidence on this forum staggers the mind. So few are willing to even acknowledge the most elementary proof: (1) Doorman's was wearing a long sleeved shirt with distinctive features. Oswald was wearing a long sleeved shirt with distinctive features. Therefore, Oswald's xxxx makes him a strong candidate for Doorman. (2) Doorman was not wearing a short-sleeved shirt. Lovelady was wearing a short-sleeved shirt. Therefore, Lovelady was not Doorman. (3) Doorman had a shirt that was splayed open. Checkered Shirt Man was not splayed open. Therefore, Checkered Shirt Man is not Doorman. (4) Doorman was Oswald or Lovelady or Checkered Shirt Man. But Doorman was not Lovelady or Checkered Shirt Man. Therefore, Doorman was Oswald. Why are so many here AFRAID OF THE TRUTH? Logic and evidence establish that Oswald was Doorman, that he was out with Bill Shelley in front, just as he told Will Fritz, and that desperate measures were taken to conceal that fact, which blows the cover-up out of the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Quote: Robin, I would appreciate it if you would give me your anwers to both: Is Doorman wearing a red-and-white short-sleeved shirt? YES or NO Is the shirt Doorman is wearing buttoned up to the top? YES or NO They are not difficult questions. The answers are obvious. What are they? Jim any answers i give would be pointless, we both know that Lovelady was just playing games with the Authorities, and researchers in 1976 he told Groden that he was wearing the doorman style shirt in Dealey Plaza Click on image to see full size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest James H. Fetzer Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Willis 8 Crop So the man's whose profile obfuscates the shirt of Doorman was there. Why was he not actually WATCHING THE MOTORCADE? Why would anyone at that location at that time NOT BE WATCHING THE PRESIDENT AND FIRST LADY PASS BY? And that they used images of figures in the immediate vicinity to fake the photo should come as no surprise. That the were also faking photos of Billy Lovelady to make him look more like Doorman, however, is fascinating and requires an explanation from someone like Robin Unger, who is doing his best to obfuscate the force of simple arguments like (1), (2), (3), and (4). HE IS NOT EVEN WILLING TO ANSWER THOSE TWO SIMPLE QUESTIONS. WHY NOT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest James H. Fetzer Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Oh, OF COURSE! HE WAS JOKING AROUND WITH THE FBI ABOUT THE SHIRT HE WAS WEARING WHEN THE PRESIDENT WAS SHOT! IT'S A VIOLATION OF FEDERAL LAW TO LIE TO THE FBI. BUT, IF YOU SAY THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT, ROBIN UNGER, THEN THAT MUST BE ALL THERE IS TO IT! WHY DIDN'T I THINK OF THAT? ISN'T THAT WHAT ANY OF US WOULD HAVE DONE? AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE TOLD JONES HARRIS THAT WE WERE WEARING THE SHIRT WE HAD SHOWN THE FBI? AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE SPENT YEARS OF TAKING PHOTOS OF OURSELVES IN OTHER SHIRTS JUST TO CONFUSE EVERYONE ABOUT IT? GOD, ROBIN! THANKS FOR LETTING US KNOW. HE WOULDN'T HAVE COVERED IT UP JUST TO AVOID BEING KILLED? AND ROBERT GRODEN COMES TO THE RESCUE? ISN'T THE ONE OF THOSE GUYS WHO CLIAMS THAT THE ZAPRUDER FILM IS AUTHENTIC? DOESN'T HE PROMOTE THOSE FAKE COLOR PHOTOS OF THE AUTOPSY? WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST EXPLAIN THIS AT THE BEGINNING AND SAVED US ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT? I GUESS YOU ARE A GOOD GUY, AFTER ALL! WE CAN ALL BE GRATEFUL THERE ARE STRAIGHT-SHOOTERS LIKE ROBIN UNDER ON THE EDUCATION FORUM TO SAVE US FROM SUCH BLUNDERS! Quote: Robin, I would appreciate it if you would give me your anwers to both: Is Doorman wearing a red-and-white short-sleeved shirt? YES or NO Is the shirt Doorman is wearing buttoned up to the top? YES or NO They are not difficult questions. The answers are obvious. What are they? Jim any answers i give would be pointless, we both know that Lovelady was just playing games with the Authorities, and researchers in 1976 he told Groden that he was wearing the doorman style shirt in Dealey Plaza Click on image to see full size Edited March 3, 2013 by James H. Fetzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Unger Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Is Doorman wearing a red-and-white short-sleeved shirt? YES or NO Is the shirt Doorman is wearing buttoned up to the top? YES or NO you are transfixed on the black and white FBI image, if i apply the same two questions using Groden color photo's above as the reference image, we then get a completely different set of answers to what you are looking for. so when is Lovelady lying, and when is Lovelady telling the truth To me the Doorman seen in Altgens6 looks most like the bob Jackson color photo of lovelady shown in the groden scan above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest James H. Fetzer Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 (edited) Here's an example of Lovelady fakery. I can't wait to hear Robin Unger "explain it away": I may be the last one left to say it, but I find Jim Fetzer's contributions to always be interesting. He stimulates discussion like no one else, on this forum and any other he's been a part of. I think that's a very good thing. BUT APPARENTLY LEE FARLEY WANTS TO STEP IN. LEE, TELL US, HOW THE SHADOWS ARE ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF HIS NECK DURING THE SAME PHOTO SHOOT? AND HOW THE SLEEVE OF HIS RIGHT ARM IS CUT AND PASTED? AND THE USE OF A PHONY ARM? TELL US, LEE. YOU ARE A SMART GUY. WE KNOW FROM EARLIER POSTS. SO TELL US? Edited March 4, 2013 by James H. Fetzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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