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Among the disclosures by Ambassador Lee Wanta in his coasttocoastam interview last night concerned former National Security Council member Sandy Berger being caught attempting to take a document out of the National Archives by hiding it in his underwear. The ambassador said that the document in question was the U.S. agreement with Prescott Bush regarding his financial ties to Nazi Germany. The agreement stipulated that no member of the Bush family would ever be eligible to run for U.S. presidency. Wanta maintained that as a result Reagan was the last legally elected president of our country.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Berger

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The articles you link to bely the specific claim by this Wanta guy.

The Berger documents were not related to Bush, but to the millennial terrorist attempt that Clinton managed to thwart.

The stuff about the Prescott Bush--UBC connection was written about based on documents that were specifically found elsewhere, by other people.

This guy sounds like a rightwing loon. Reagan actually liked Gorbachev and was convinced he was the real thing--a reformer. Which he was.

Reagan was opposed in his attempts by those two old Neanderthals, Nixon and Kissinger. Who he stupidly went to for advice. IN fact, Tricky DIck actually told people in the White House not to leave Reagan alone with Gorby.

Am i missing something? Where is the JFK connection?

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About Eagle One To Wanta:

"It is the compelling story about President Reagan, and how he brought about the

fall of the Soviet Union and ended the Cold War without firing a shot."

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If you read Rick Perlstein's histories Nixonland and The Invisible Bridge: The Fall of Nixon and the Rise of Reagan, you get an excellent view of how much a puppet Reagan was and how little personal influence he exercised - a striking view given that this is well-researched mainstream work with no conspiracy axe to grind, in which the public facts speak for the nature of the administration. If there is something to the Wanta claims, his mission originated above or beyond Reagan, and was intended for exploitation beyond its stated ends.

I heartily recommend these two Perlstein books to everyone here. Doug, you're mentioned in Nixonland, and you may find a lot of interest to you in Perlstein's first volume on the rise of conservatism, which focusses on Barry Goldwater.

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The JFK connection is in the video that I suggested be watched. It was the nexus for posting this item in this topic.

The Wikipedia entry was most likely written by or at the direction of Sandy Berger. Was he going to admit real reason that he went to the National Archives to steal documents and who sent him in to do this? Would the legal papers related to his being caught state the actual reason?

Berger being caught in his attempt to steal documents is old news but being caught doing this rarely happens. Think of all the Secret Service documents related to the JFK assassination that were destroyed and what occurred within the CIA.

It would be interesting to get a copy of the disputed Prescott Bush agreement to see what it actually states -- unless the National Archives has it as a classified document.

According to Wanta's account, he was commissioned to carry out his assignment at a meeting in William French Smith's law office in Los Angeles when Reagan was still president-elect and that Colby and Casey were present along with him. This may have happened but once Reagan took poswer he turned most of the responsibilities of his office over to Bush via James Baker and Edwin Meese. After the attempt to assassinate him he surrendered even more of his power.

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Doug:

The woman who handed the documents to Berger later squealed on him. There are a lot of sources for this, including a congressional report.

She had numbered the documents so that when he left, with the excuse of going to the bathroom, she was able to decipher what was gone.

The documents Berger requested were all from the files of Richard Clarke, Clinton's terrorism expert. And they all dealt with the millennial threat, especially the after effects report on it.

Wanta is full of it on that score.

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I watched half of the film. Couldn't take anymore of it.

The idea that Gorbachev stepped down from his premiership is ludicrous. He was kidnapped by the coup plotters and held hostage. And, unlike in the USA in 1963, the public would not stand for it and rose up in the streets. The army refused to fire on them. Gorbachev was returned, but this left the opening for the drunken demagogue Yeltsin. Yeltsin used it to seize power and essentially sell out his country to the so called Shock Doctrine of Milton Friedman. Russia then underwent an economic crisis that was worse than the Great Depression. It essentially wrecked the country. All the good things Gorbachev was working toward were now gone.

And BTW, this happened in 1991, three years after Reagan left office.

About Kennedy, it is not true that the executive order was going to bypass the Federal Reserve and print money out of the treasury. This was only a short term technical correction to make up for a certain shortage of currency bills at the time. Kennedy was trying to reform the banking system, but it was through a man named James Saxon, who was encouraging more state banks and easier lending. I found an interview with Saxon from the fall of 1963 on this subject.

Man, between this stuff and Alex Jones, no wonder Trump is the GOP nominee.

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From the Wikileaks document:

In 1988, Riggs Bank, under the direction of Jonathan Bush and J Carter Beese,

would purchase controlling interest in a Swiss company named Valmet. In early

1989, the new subsidiary of Riggs called Riggs-Valmet would initiate contact

with a group of KGB officers and their front-men to start setting up an

international network for moving money out of the former Soviet block

countries.

In the first phase of the economic attack on the Soviet Union, George Bush

authorized Leo Wanta and others to destabilize the ruble and facilitate the

theft of the Soviet/Russian treasury. This would result in draining the

Russian treasury of between 2,000 to 3,000 tonnes of gold bullion, ($35

billion at the time). This step would prevent a monetary defence of the ruble

and thus destabilize the currency. The gold was âstolenâ in March of

1991, facilitated by Leo Wanta and signed off by Boris Yeltsinâs right hand

man. The majority of the leaked reports from the CIA and FBI suggest the

theft of the Russian treasury was a KGB and Communist party operation, but

what those reports omitted was the extensive involvement of Boris Yeltsin,

the U.S. CIA and the U.S. banking industry.

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/20/207972_-analytical-and-intelligence-comments-it-suggests-that.html

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I don't understand the Berger business at all. The article says that what he stole were copies of a report commissioned by the Clinton Administration's Richard Clarke. So why wouldn't the administration already have at least a copy? Why did Berger have to steal them? But then the article says that a house committee revealed that what he stole were original, uncopied documents. Well, which was it? And if they were uncopied originals, was the intent to destroy them? The article doesn't say that the material he stole was ever returned. Was it?

BTW Bill Clinton's reaction to the theft, as I recall, was to laugh and say something to the effect, "That's old Sandy for you."

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Ron:

It was stupid to begin with.

Because the Clinton Library had the report anyway.

But the archivist suspected what Berger was doing and set him up on his last visit. That is why he ended up with multiple copies.

I think Berger simply did not want the 9-11 commission to have Clarke's report.

PS:

Ron, did you note the coup de grace in the Wanta story?

Vince Foster twas going to meet with him.

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In his recent interview on coasttocoastam, Wanta disclosed that Donald Trump is aware and has knowledge of what he alleges. He intimated that if Trump were elected president, Trump might seize the $32+ trillion dollars that Wanta says was stolen from him and with Wanta's permission and blessing use this money to pay off the total U.S. debt as well as all outstanding student loans. The funds left over would be used to build and restore infrastructure in the country.

I know that this sounds unbelievable but after reading the full Wikileaks document, it would appear to be well within the realm of possibility.

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Ron, did you note the coup de grace in the Wanta story?

Vince Foster twas going to meet with him.

No, thanks for pointing that out. Now are you con-VINCE-d?

Actually the video doesn't make any sense. It says that Wanta was arrested in Switzerland and his money was taken. Then there is silence while a caption says he was arrested "on his way" to meet Foster and give him 250 million dollars for the Clintons. If he was arrested on the way (in Switzerland?), then how did the Clintons get the 250 million (which the captions say is unaccounted for)?

I think Foster was offed by somebody (besides Foster), but I doubt that Wanta and his money had anything to do with it.

Wanta sounds like a Wanta-be.

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