Paul Brancato Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 I think Glenn might be referring to my inadequacies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 10:25 PM, James DiEugenio said: That is correct Pamela and he also could not get his book published in America because of the FBI. That is why he had to go to England. So wrong of them, but not surprising. To me, clear evidence of their complicity, at least in the cover up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 On 1/18/2018 at 2:01 PM, Thomas Graves said: James, So if "The Sword and the Shield" is chock-a-block full of disinformation, it's fair to assume that it's another example of Russian active measures / strategic deception against us and our allies, yes? -- Tommy The Soviet involvement in disinformation about the assassination -- before and after -- deserves a thread of its own. They are far more subtle than Americans, and have complicated things more that we can imagine, imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) On 1/18/2018 at 12:45 PM, Thomas Graves said: EDIT ALERT: REMOVAL OF TWO HIGHLY SARCASTIC PHRASES Paul, Xxxx xxx xxx xxxxxxx, did it cause you a severe case of xxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxx? How many pages did you read, anyway? Did you read Bagley's explanation of how CIA went about "deciding otherwise" on Nosenko? (It's near the beginning of his 2015 PDF "Ghosts of the Spy Wars.") http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/08850607.2014.962362 -- Tommy Edited, kinda, and ... gasp ... bumped. Edited April 11, 2018 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted April 12, 2018 Share Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) On 1/18/2018 at 5:25 AM, James DiEugenio said: Well Tommy anyone who would take Mitrokhin and his book seriously has reason to be confused. And I wouldn't laugh at it. James, Sorry, but you wouldn't laugh at what? Have you ever read Tennent H. Bagley's 2007 book "Spy Wars," or his 2014 follow-up PDF, "Ghosts of the Spy Wars"? If you were to read those two works by Bagley, you'd come to realize how fooled by Ruskie active measures/strategic deception "official MI5 historian" Christopher Andrew is in "The Sword and the Shield." For example, his pronouncement that Cherepanov and Nosenko were both true defectors! (Despite what Morley and Simpich say, Bagley wasn't "Angleton's guy," you know. Bagley's Soviet Russia Division (later called Soviet Block Division) was completely independent from Angleton's Counterintelligence Staff) -- TG Edited April 12, 2018 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Carvalho Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Haven't seen much talk of Angleton thus far. Here's an interesting article... https://spartacus-educational.com/Clare_Edward_Petty.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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