Ron Bulman Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) As I ask, relevant today? Read the third reply. I don't know how to link It to this forum. Edited March 9, 2020 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Its a good book. Don used to write for Probe Magazine. One of our most valued contributors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 8 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: As I ask, relevant today? Read the third reply. I don't know how to link It to this forum. From "the third reply" you refer to: "if a Black Death could be spread throughout the world once in every generation". "Aldous Huxley... expressed similar enthusiasm in 1959 that a virus might appear that eliminated large numbers of people." That's certainly relevant today. The coronavirus being deadly particularly for old folks reminds me of a TV movie I saw years ago (I can't remember the name of it). It was a murder mystery. The sheriff says that someone in town is killing old people. And one of the characters says, "It's about time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 The sheriff says that someone in town is killing old people. Was that with Andy Griffith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 16 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: As I ask, relevant today? Read the third reply. I don't know how to link It to this forum. I gave you some background on Russell over in that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, David Andrews said: The sheriff says that someone in town is killing old people. Was that with Andy Griffith? I don't think it was Andy but someone kind of like him. As best I recall the female (killer) was sort of the star of the movie, or maybe they both were. But can't remember who she was. I just recall her being kind of hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ron Ecker said: I don't think it was Andy but someone kind of like him. As best I recall the female (killer) was sort of the star of the movie, or maybe they both were. But can't remember who she was. I just recall her being kind of hot. That may be this picture, They Only Kill Their Masters. I saw it again recently and the plot made no sense at all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYDCcGppX78 Edited March 9, 2020 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 20 minutes ago, David Andrews said: That may be this picture, They Only Kill Their Masters. I saw it again recently and the plot made no sense at all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYDCcGppX78 No, that's not it. Looked up a couple of reviews and it's nothing about murder victims being old people. And I don't remember any dogs. The killer had some special way of killing, like some murderous nurse would have in a hospital, but it wasn't about nursing. I can't remember the gimmick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) To get back to Don Gibson, who I would wager, few people on this forum have heard of and even less have read. Don Gibson, if you can believe it, was the first person in the field who truly defined what the Power Elite was at the time of Kennedy's assassination. But further, along with that, he also took pains to show Kennedy's differences with them. In this, he was unique. The problem up until that time was that if one went with people outside the field, like Domhoff, you learned little about Kennedy. If you went with people inside the field, like Scott and Evica, you would have thought that a nebulous web of the CIA, the Mafia and drug dealers ruled the world. What Gibson did is he showed that there was a level above the CIA that no one had really examined. And it was this Ruling Class that had awesome power not just in America, but throughout the world. This figured in disputes with Kennedy in places like Congo and Indonesia. Where there were not millions, or tens of millions, or hundreds of millions--- but billions on the table. If Kennedy prevailed, that huge amount would be channeled to the people who lived there; if Kennedy was disposed of, the Power Elite and their imperial dealings would prevail i.e. they would put in a strong man and rake in the cash from the extravagant wealth to be mined through the abused natives. No one before Don Gibson had ever come close to showing this the way he did. Because in Battling Wall Street, he was the first writer who ever really examined Kennedy's economic policies in detail. The chapter in that book on the Steel Crisis is probably the best examination of that key event in the literature. Gibson did for Kennedy's economic policies what authors like Mahoney, Muelhenbeck and Rakove did for his foreign policy. He discovered and described aspects that had been ignored by others and needed to be reassessed in order to really understand what Kennedy was about. Battling Wall Street is, I think, one of the single most important books about the Kennedy administration. I would recommend to anyone both of his books, which I think were both reissued a few years ago in trade paperback versions. I miss his contributions to the case. A very valuable scholar who really exemplified what that word should mean. Edited March 9, 2020 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ron Ecker said: No, that's not it. Looked up a couple of reviews and it's nothing about murder victims being old people. And I don't remember any dogs. The killer had some special way of killing, like some murderous nurse would have in a hospital, but it wasn't about nursing. I can't remember the gimmick. https://www.whatismymovie.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) "To get back to Don Gibson, who I would wager, few people on this forum have heard of and even less have read." Excerpts from Battling Wall Street, to soothe the sting of being thought ill-read: https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2007/2/11/300743/- https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2007/02/12/301305/-Battling-Wall-Street-The-Kennedy-Presidency-Part-2 Edited March 9, 2020 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 OMG, Daily Kos? Surprising to me. I stopped reading that over a decade ago when Moulitsas started posting ads for Chevron on the site. His Crashing the Gate strategy was a dud wasn't it? I mean Trump and HRC? And now Trump and Biden perhaps? Some gate crasher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 6 hours ago, David Andrews said: I gave you some background on Russell over in that thread. That piece on the 16 questions by him for the time was way better than anything in the USA. Hard to reconcile it with his Black Death and racist statements comparing blacks to dogs though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 The details about the connections between the elite of NY, Boston and New Orleans were fascinating. The Boston Club in New Orleans established 1841 with connections to the exclusive Union Club of NY. Much More. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Henry Crown and Albert Jenner of the Warren Commission, by Christopher Bollyn. Stop reading wherever the anti-Zionism becomes noxious: https://www.bollyn.com/9-11-archive-2013/#article_14589 JFK and 9-11: Henry Crown and the Cover-Ups of Our Time November 7, 2013 DALLAS, November 22, 1963 - President John F. Kennedy moments before he was assassinated. A coup d'etat took place in 1963 and we have been living with the results of it for half a century - with millions of dead across the globe. With the loss of President Kennedy, the U.S. became a perpetual warfare state, and we live every day of our lives with the consequences of that monstrous fact. - Stanford Reconsidered, October 17, 2013 We have not been told the truth about Oswald. - Sen. Richard Russell, former Warren Commissioner The guilty parties behind a crime reveal themselves when they engage in the cover-up. The hidden-hand of the culprits, for example, can be detected when they, or their agents, interfere with the investigation to prevent the truth from being exposed. The assassination of President John F. Kennedy and the terror attacks of 9-11 are probably the two events that have most profoundly affected American history during the past half century. The two events have a great deal in common. Both events were investigated by politically appointed commissions which were seriously flawed, and both events led to costly and unnecessary wars that resulted in huge increases in U.S. defense spending. In both cases, the commissions that investigated the crimes failed to convince the public that they were honest and complete. Both the Warren Commission and the 9-11 Commission are now seen by many as criminal cover-ups that used colossal lies to protect the real culprits and deceive the public about what really happened. Interfering in both the investigations of the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and the terror attacks of 9-11, we find agents of Henry Crown and Company, a Zionist family of war profiteers (General Dynamics) from Chicago. Agents associated with Henry Crown and Company played key roles in steering both investigations away from the truth and promoting the official myth. ZIONIST MOBSTER Henry Crown of Chicago made a fortune as a procurement agent for the U.S. Army during World War II and went on to take over General Dynamics in 1959. He was also deeply involved in organized crime and smuggling weapons to Israel in violation of U.S. law. Henry Crown of Chicago controlled the nearly bankrupt General Dynamics (of Fort Worth, Texas) at the time of the JFK assassination. Henry Crown’s personal lawyer, Albert E. Jenner, Jr., served on the Warren Commission where he was tasked with investigating the evidence of a conspiracy behind Lee Harvey Oswald or Jack Ruby. The article about Jack Ruby on Murderpedia.org explains how Henry Crown's personal lawyer got this crucial position on the Warren Commission: Tom C. Clark advised newspaper columnist Drew Pearson in 1946 that the FBI had verified the claims of James M. Ragen that financier Henry Crown and the Hilton Hotel chain maintained some financial interest in syndicated racketeering activities in Chicago. Tom C. Clark [then a U.S. Supreme Court Justice] selected Henry Crown's son, John as one of his two Supreme Court law clerks for the 1956 term, and Tom Clark provided one of two recommendations to the Warren Commission to appoint Henry Crown's attorney, Albert E. Jenner, Jr. as a senior assistant investigative counsel responsible for determining whether either Oswald or Ruby acted alone or conspired with others. - “Jack Leon Ruby” by Juan I. Blanco, Murderpedia.org General Dynamics, which had been acquired by Henry Crown in 1959, was on the brink of bankruptcy in 1962 when it was saved by a $6 billion contract to develop a new fighter (TFX/F-111) for the U.S. military. This was a very crooked deal that General Dynamics won through bribes and corruption. The TFX scandal was disputed and debated in Congress during the year of the assassination. The Vietnam War, which was escalated by Lyndon B. Johnson after the assassination, is the war that saved Henry Crown's General Dynamics from bankruptcy. Kennedy had stated that he wanted to withdraw U.S. troops from Vietnam by the end of 1965. Likewise, after the terror attacks of 9-11, the Crown family raked in huge profits from the fraudulent "War on Terror" and the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. The Crown family, which is the largest shareholder of General Dynamics (GD), saw the value of their stock quadruple, as GD's revenue tripled from $10.4 billion in 2000 to $32.5 billion in 2010. Immediately after 9-11, people on the Crown payroll played key roles in supporting the official lies about what caused the destruction of the World Trade Center. Zdenek Bazant, a professor at Northwestern University, was the first. Bazant presented a paper – on September 13, 2001 - claiming that the Twin Towers collapsed due to fire-induced weakening of the buildings. Bazant works at a school of engineering at Northwestern University that is heavily funded by the Crown family. Likewise, W. Gene Corley, another associate of the Crown family, headed the FEMA/ASCE investigation of the Twin Towers. Corley is a concrete specialist who performed a similar service after the Waco massacre, the Oklahoma City bombing, and the bombing of the Pentagon. Corley, now deceased, was associated with the Crown family through his work with the American Concrete Institute (Illinois). He received the Henry Crown award from this institute in 1997 – for his work on the bombing of the federal building in Oklahoma City. It should be noted that Corley claimed to know nothing about how steel can be tested for evidence of explosives. "I'M NOT A METALLURGIST" - W. Gene Corley at the World Trade Center. Corley, a concrete specialist from Chicago, told the author that he knew nothing about how to test steel for evidence of explosives. So, the Crown family of Chicago, the controlling family of General Dynamics, had key people in the official investigations of the JFK murder and 9-11 and made billions of dollars in profits from the wars that followed both events. Most importantly, the agents of the Crown family were key players in the criminal cover-ups by supporting the false version of both crimes. U.S. history changed drastically as a result of these events and in both cases the cover-up resulted in the nation becoming engaged in long and costly wars from which the Crown family made huge profits from their ownership and control of General Dynamics, a leading defense contractor. We should take note when the people who are involved in covering up a crime then rake in immense profits from the criminal deception. MORE IN NEXT POST Edited March 10, 2020 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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