Guest Posted December 20, 2022 Posted December 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said: Here's an oldie but goodie.. Thanks, Matthew. Getting phone calls every day, unclear who he spoke with??!
Guest Posted December 20, 2022 Posted December 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Robert Burrows said: Then there's the infamous November 29, 1963 Hoover memo that mentions "Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency”... and the other George Bush at the CIA who held a menial position and swore an affidavit that he wasn’t the George Bush mentioned in that memo.
Robert Burrows Posted December 20, 2022 Author Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) Bringing the discussion back to President Carter, how influential was GHWB in Reagan's decision to appoint William Casey as the Director of the CIA? Was that appointment quid pro quo for services rendered during the 1980 presidential campaign? "A member of the Republican Party, he (Casey) directed the presidential campaign of Ronald Reagan in 1980. During the campaign Casey was informed that Jimmy Carter was attempting to negotiate a deal with Iran to get the American hostages released. This was disastrous news for the Reagan campaign. If Carter got the hostages out before the election, the public perception of the man might change and he might be elected for a second-term. According to Barbara Honegger, a researcher and policy analyst with the 1980 Reagan/Bush campaign, William Casey and other representatives of the Reagan presidential campaign made a deal at two sets of meetings in July and August at the Ritz Hotel in Madrid with Iranians to delay the release of Americans held hostage in Iran until after the November 1980 presidential elections. Reagan’s aides promised that they would get a better deal if they waited until Carter was defeated." https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKcaseyW.htm Edited December 20, 2022 by Robert Burrows
Joseph McBride Posted December 20, 2022 Posted December 20, 2022 Hinckley didn't shoot Reagan. The shot that hit Reagan came from above and richocheted off the presidential limousine upward into his armpit.
Benjamin Cole Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Robert Burrows said: Bringing the discussion back to President Carter, how influential was GHWB in Reagan's decision to appoint William Casey as the Director of the CIA? Was that appointment quid pro quo for services rendered during the 1980 presidential campaign? "A member of the Republican Party, he (Casey) directed the presidential campaign of Ronald Reagan in 1980. During the campaign Casey was informed that Jimmy Carter was attempting to negotiate a deal with Iran to get the American hostages released. This was disastrous news for the Reagan campaign. If Carter got the hostages out before the election, the public perception of the man might change and he might be elected for a second-term. According to Barbara Honegger, a researcher and policy analyst with the 1980 Reagan/Bush campaign, William Casey and other representatives of the Reagan presidential campaign made a deal at two sets of meetings in July and August at the Ritz Hotel in Madrid with Iranians to delay the release of Americans held hostage in Iran until after the November 1980 presidential elections. Reagan’s aides promised that they would get a better deal if they waited until Carter was defeated." https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKcaseyW.htm Right. People have forgotten this one. It ranks up there with Nixon telling the South Vietnamese not to cut a peace deal with North Vietnam under LBJ, and wait for Nixon and a better deal. Nixon then prosecuted the war for another four years, afraid of losing before the 1972 election. Nixon was impeached on Watergate but what he did in the war makes Watergate look like tiddlywinks with Peter Pan.
Anthony Thorne Posted December 21, 2022 Posted December 21, 2022 On 12/20/2022 at 6:23 AM, James DiEugenio said: Its really an amazing incident that is underplayed. Was it a warning? Jim, I haven't read the article in question for a while, which listed a few of the severe clashes that were occurring between Carter and his opponents - not just the usual electoral fighting, but more heated and underhanded stuff - but the implication was that it was indeed a warning. I think through the same year, or somewhat prior, key neoconservatives had a meeting with prior to see if fences could be mended. The meeting went terribly, and they basically gave up on Carter from that point onwards. The neocons had numerous connections to the George HW Bush intelligence community, and this culminated in the October Surprise manoeuvres that helped Carter lose the election. Reagan's electoral win was accompanied by a bunch of the Committee for the Present Danger crazies entering the Reagan administration, and the CPD were largely extreme hawks with ties to weapons companies who aggressively pushed for wars and became entangled in nasty covert projects like Iran Contra. If that group wanted to send a message to the sitting President that he should watch his step, evoking the Kennedy murder with names and talk of an assassination plot would be one way to do it.
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