Matthew Koch Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Article discusses quote of John Lennon and his thoughts of JFK: Open link for videos https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/john-lennon-thought-president-john-f-kennedy.html/ What John Lennon Thought of President John F. Kennedy John Lennon discussed what might have happened had President John F. Kennedy lived. He compared people’s feelings toward the former president with their feelings toward The Beatles. John sang about Kennedy and other important people in one of his songs John Lennon had a lot to say about President John F. Kennedy. In addition, he compared Kennedy to Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. John even mentioned Kennedy in one of his famous solo songs. The book Lennon on Lennon: Conversations with John Lennon includes an interview from 1980. In it, John discussed Kennedy at length. “Kennedy is a big dream for everybody because he didn’t live to fulfill or let us down,” he said. “It’s not to negate what Kennedy was and what he means to people, but the reality is, had he lived, how do you know how well he would’ve done at the time?” John added. “Right? Or how the war would’ve gone and how everything would’ve gone?” Subsequently, John discussed the then-recent election of Reagan. “So Reagan’s gonna go in there,” he said. “All the so-called rightists are all gonna be waitin’ for him to do what they want. “And when he doesn’t because it’s impossible, because the presidency is such a vast, awe-inspiring position for any man to be in, and it means a lot more than some local right/left group, that he cannot possibly fulfill the dreams of the right wing, the same way as Carter or Kennedy could never have fulfilled the dreams of the left wing,” John added. “It is too much invested in one man, one group, and I don’t believe in that.” John Lennon didn’t seem to like the way a number of important people were romanticized The book All We Are Saying: The Last Major Interview with John Lennon and Yoko Onofeatures another interview from 1980. In it, John seemed to take issue with nostalgia. He didn’t like the idea of The Smothers Brothers coming back for the special The Return of the Smothers Brothers the same way he didn’t like Beatles fans waiting for the return of the Fab Four. In addition, John said people wanted to dig up Kennedy. The “Imagine” singer criticized people for wanting Ted Kennedy to be his brother and for wanting The Beatles to still be who they were in the 1960s. For context, Ted was a politician and failed presidential candidate. Perhaps John’s most striking statement about Kennedy came in his song “God.” In it, the former Beatle lists a number of things he doesn’t believe in, including the Bible, magic, Buddha, Jesus, Elvis Presley, yoga, and Kennedy. John sang that all he believed in was himself and Yoko Ono, explaining “That’s reality.” John didn’t want to “negate” the former president’s legacy but he didn’t have an overly optimistic view of him either. by Matthew Trzcinski | More Articles: Music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Zartman Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 From what I've read, the JFK assassination made the Beatles afraid to come to America. They genuinely thought they would be in danger the minute they stepped out in public. I believe it is also on the record that Paul McCartney offered to compose a score for Mark Lane's film Rush To Judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Denny Zartman said: From what I've read, the JFK assassination made the Beatles afraid to come to America. They genuinely thought they would be in danger the minute they stepped out in public. I believe it is also on the record that Paul McCartney offered to compose a score for Mark Lane's film Rush To Judgement. Hi Denny. I've read about the McCartney score for Rush to Judgement. An interesting story. But I've never read of the Beatles fear, they did tour the USA in 1964 and 1966. Unfortunately, despite McCartney’s insistence, it was not to be. Lane’s director, Emile de Antonio, ultimately vetoed the Cute Beatle‘s involvement. De Antonio believed a score by Paul McCartney wouldn’t likely boost its popularity, and would prevent it from being “stark and didactic.” Fab Forum | The Beatles Bible Edited January 28, 2023 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 10 hours ago, Denny Zartman said: From what I've read, the JFK assassination made the Beatles afraid to come to America. They genuinely thought they would be in danger the minute they stepped out in public. I believe it is also on the record that Paul McCartney offered to compose a score for Mark Lane's film Rush To Judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gil Jesus Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Matthew Koch said: Article discusses quote of John Lennon and his thoughts of JFK: Open link for videos https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/john-lennon-thought-president-john-f-kennedy.html/ What John Lennon Thought of President John F. Kennedy John Lennon discussed what might have happened had President John F. Kennedy lived. He compared people’s feelings toward the former president with their feelings toward The Beatles. John sang about Kennedy and other important people in one of his songs John Lennon had a lot to say about President John F. Kennedy. In addition, he compared Kennedy to Presidents Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan. John even mentioned Kennedy in one of his famous solo songs. The book Lennon on Lennon: Conversations with John Lennon includes an interview from 1980. In it, John discussed Kennedy at length. “Kennedy is a big dream for everybody because he didn’t live to fulfill or let us down,” he said. “It’s not to negate what Kennedy was and what he means to people, but the reality is, had he lived, how do you know how well he would’ve done at the time?” John added. “Right? Or how the war would’ve gone and how everything would’ve gone?” Subsequently, John discussed the then-recent election of Reagan. “So Reagan’s gonna go in there,” he said. “All the so-called rightists are all gonna be waitin’ for him to do what they want. “And when he doesn’t because it’s impossible, because the presidency is such a vast, awe-inspiring position for any man to be in, and it means a lot more than some local right/left group, that he cannot possibly fulfill the dreams of the right wing, the same way as Carter or Kennedy could never have fulfilled the dreams of the left wing,” John added. “It is too much invested in one man, one group, and I don’t believe in that.” John Lennon didn’t seem to like the way a number of important people were romanticized The book All We Are Saying: The Last Major Interview with John Lennon and Yoko Onofeatures another interview from 1980. In it, John seemed to take issue with nostalgia. He didn’t like the idea of The Smothers Brothers coming back for the special The Return of the Smothers Brothers the same way he didn’t like Beatles fans waiting for the return of the Fab Four. In addition, John said people wanted to dig up Kennedy. The “Imagine” singer criticized people for wanting Ted Kennedy to be his brother and for wanting The Beatles to still be who they were in the 1960s. For context, Ted was a politician and failed presidential candidate. Perhaps John’s most striking statement about Kennedy came in his song “God.” In it, the former Beatle lists a number of things he doesn’t believe in, including the Bible, magic, Buddha, Jesus, Elvis Presley, yoga, and Kennedy. John sang that all he believed in was himself and Yoko Ono, explaining “That’s reality.” John didn’t want to “negate” the former president’s legacy but he didn’t have an overly optimistic view of him either. by Matthew Trzcinski | More Articles: Music One has to ask the question how could John Lennon compare JFK to President Reagan when Lennon was murdered a month before Reagan was even inaugurated ? I think articles like this are a bunch of BS. Entertaining but nothing more. Edited January 28, 2023 by Gil Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted January 28, 2023 Author Share Posted January 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, Gil Jesus said: One has to ask the question how could John Lennon compared JFK to President Reagan when Lennon was murdered a month before Reagan was even inaugurated ? I think articles like this are a bunch of BS. Entertaining but nothing more. The Election happened the November before he was killed Gil. Sounds like Lennon didn't like Carter and preferred Reagan like Sinatra did. I think he was making the point that Tomato, Tomatoe criticism that Ben does about both sides of the isle.. https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2011/06/john-lennon-reagan-democrat/352312/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Ironically, the assassination of John Lennon looks in some ways as though it mirrors the assassination of JFK... involves a limo, wife narrowly escapes being killed as well, 'lone-nut gunman', and, of course...a powerful cover-up that continues today... https://inbroaddaylight.wordpress.com/2022/01/01/was-the-untimely-death-of-john-lennon-another-murder-most-foul/ In fact, all that is missing are the red roses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Cohen Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 37 minutes ago, Pamela Brown said: A powerful cover-up that continues today... What on earth are you talking about? What "powerful cover-up" exists in the Lennon murder? Please don't tell me you are peddling your Bob Dylan mind control theories again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted February 5, 2023 Author Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Pamela Brown said: Ironically, the assassination of John Lennon looks in some ways as though it mirrors the assassination of JFK... involves a limo, wife narrowly escapes being killed as well, 'lone-nut gunman', and, of course...a powerful cover-up that continues today... https://inbroaddaylight.wordpress.com/2022/01/01/was-the-untimely-death-of-john-lennon-another-murder-most-foul/ In fact, all that is missing are the red roses... FWIW personally I think it mirrors the RFK and Reagan Assassination more so, Chapman may have been an MK/Ultra type hypno-programming victim like Sirhan is believed to be. There is a theory in all three that the Schizo with the Gun is the distraction and that like the movie the Parallax View someone else shot the victim while people were distracted looking at a scapegoat commit in their minds the crime. Chapman has a connection to World Vision (which is thought to be a CIA charity front)https://themillenniumreport.com/2018/12/world-vision-international-a-c-i-a-front-like-so-many-other-charities-and-philanthropic-organizations/ that connection is shared by John Hinkley who shot Ronald Reagan. There is a belief amongst some researchers that Catcher in the Rye was used to program lone wolf assassins (The movie Conspiracy Theory with Mel Gibson references it) https://rare.us/rare-media/entertainment-and-culture/catcher-and-the-rye-conspiracy-theories/ Edited February 5, 2023 by Matthew Koch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Cohen Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 On 1/28/2023 at 9:36 AM, Gil Jesus said: One has to ask the question how could John Lennon compare JFK to President Reagan when Lennon was murdered a month before Reagan was even inaugurated ? I think articles like this are a bunch of BS. Entertaining but nothing more. Your timeline is wrong - Reagan was elected two months before Lennon's murder. And Lennon would have been more than familiar with Reagan as a politician due to having lived in California for more than a year in the 1970s, around when Reagan was finishing his term as governor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knight Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jonathan Cohen said: Your timeline is wrong - Reagan was elected two months before Lennon's murder. And Lennon would have been more than familiar with Reagan as a politician due to having lived in California for more than a year in the 1970s, around when Reagan was finishing his term as governor. Being elected does not equal being sworn in as President. That comes at noon on January 20th these days. NOT in November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 JFK spoke of Peace. John Lennon sang of Peace. Imagine. They were both assassinated by lone nuts, Imagine That. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Cohen Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 3 hours ago, Mark Knight said: Being elected does not equal being sworn in as President. That comes at noon on January 20th these days. NOT in November. I never said it equated to that, and neither did Lennon. This is a pointless squabble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamela Brown Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 13 hours ago, Matthew Koch said: FWIW personally I think it mirrors the RFK and Reagan Assassination more so, Chapman may have been an MK/Ultra type hypno-programming victim like Sirhan is believed to be. There is a theory in all three that the Schizo with the Gun is the distraction and that like the movie the Parallax View someone else shot the victim while people were distracted looking at a scapegoat commit in their minds the crime. Chapman has a connection to World Vision (which is thought to be a CIA charity front)https://themillenniumreport.com/2018/12/world-vision-international-a-c-i-a-front-like-so-many-other-charities-and-philanthropic-organizations/ that connection is shared by John Hinkley who shot Ronald Reagan. There is a belief amongst some researchers that Catcher in the Rye was used to program lone wolf assassins (The movie Conspiracy Theory with Mel Gibson references it) https://rare.us/rare-media/entertainment-and-culture/catcher-and-the-rye-conspiracy-theories/ I would agree that all these assassins look like man-cans. In the assassination attempt of Pres. Reagan, it was, in a sense, the limo that saved his life, as an SS man pushed him behind the door. In RFK's assassination there was no limo. Nevertheless, they can all be considered Murders (or attempt) Most Foul... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Koch Posted February 6, 2023 Author Share Posted February 6, 2023 12 hours ago, Mark Knight said: Being elected does not equal being sworn in as President. That comes at noon on January 20th these days. NOT in November. IDK, seems like he knew Reagan enough from hanging out with him to talk about him as a President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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