Steve Thomas Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) I got to talking with another researcher about the Hidell Selective Service card, and the fact that it had a photo on it. I started wondering if it matched any other photos we had of Oswald. One of the places I looked was Oswald's Russian passport photo, and I saw this from the Portal to Texas History: https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth346608/m1/1/ And I asked myself, who in the world is that? His nose and mouth and chin are completely different. Who the H*** went to Russia? Steve Thomas Edited June 21, 2023 by Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) The bottom pic looks beefier and more Marine like than the top one. The fellow on the bottom pic has his hair cut military short, especially on the sides. The bottom fellow's face seems fuller. His nose seems kind of stubbier? Looks like an active duty military pic on the bottom. The fellow in the top pic looks older than the lower pic person. Not sure but the top pic guy's eyes look brown. The bottom pic guy's eyes look lighter in color? Maybe green or blue? Edited June 21, 2023 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ulrik Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 It's just an extremely poor quality photograph.https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=176 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cummings Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) My nephew before going into the Marines trained nearly a year to be in shape and get ready. He got semi buff but as soon as training camp was over he toned down and started losing weight. Point is when entering the Marines and leaving he had two different bodies like LHO. Edited June 21, 2023 by Paul Cummings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted June 21, 2023 Author Share Posted June 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Mark Ulrik said: It's just an extremely poor quality photograph.https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135#relPageId=176 Mark, Thanks. It is pretty poor quality, isn't it. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Crane Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 To me,the top picture looks like someone on the High School wrestling team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan Cohen Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 3 hours ago, Steve Thomas said: Who the H*** went to Russia? The one, and only, Lee Harvey Oswald. No doppelgangers required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Price Posted June 21, 2023 Share Posted June 21, 2023 Here is a link to a much better copy. Licensed image, however. https://www.gettyimages.fi/detail/uutiskuva/lee-harvey-oswald-passport-uutiskuva/576878118 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted June 22, 2023 Share Posted June 22, 2023 (edited) Seems that the only time you see Lee Oswald with his hair as long and relaxed as it is in the top picture here were those of him in Minsk. Sitting with his new buddies and wearing sunglasses to be cool. Standing with Marina outdoors on what looks like a bridge with big buildings behind them? Lee has a well made long coat on so it appears to have been taken in cooler weather fall? Even what pics of Oswald there were after he came back to Texas and New Orleans and right up until his arrest on 11,22,1963 his hair always seemed much more neatly cut and on the short side. Oswald was Marine training neat and tidy from what has been written about him. His hair cut, dress, clean shaven general appearance, even straight posture walking and bearing. Sharp white shirt and tie in his New Orleans leaflet passing job and his radio and television appearance there. Always wore his Marine Corp ring. Marina said Oswald shared household cleaning duties. It sounds as if he liked things neater than Marina. North Beckley rooming housekeeper Earlene Roberts never mentioned seeing Oswald's room looking anything but neat. He only bought and neatly placed in the shared home refrigerator peanut butter and milk. Oswald knew how to neatly and efficiently pack his duffle bag. A military learned trait. Judith Vary Baker commented how she found Oswald to be always sharp about his personal appearance. The less than Marine neat and short hair cut in the top photo throws me. Where was Oswald when that was taken? Only time I ever recall seeing Oswald disheveled was after his fist fight and struggle in the Texas Theater and for hours when he was thrust about in the Dallas Police Department hallways Friday night. He looked like crap. Raggedly stretched T-shirt. Hair mussed up. Swollen eye. He even complained that his handlers wouldn't allow him a shower! Sylvia Odio said Oswald looked like he hadn't shaved for a day or two when he came to her Dallas apartment in late September, 1963 with Angelo and Leopoldo. Makes sense if he and his companions had been driving for two straight days. Edited June 22, 2023 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Schnapf Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 one needs to be very careful drawing conclusions from old photos . Different lighting, focal points, etc. Even modern facial recognition technology has problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ege Posted June 23, 2023 Share Posted June 23, 2023 On 6/21/2023 at 1:16 PM, Jonathan Cohen said: The one, and only, Lee Harvey Oswald. No doppelgangers required. Jonathan, thanks. Of course, SS cards in the era contained no photograph. So, Oswald "modified" his SS card or someone else did it for him. Was there not a least one thread here where the was a long debate whether or not those two photographs were of the same person - as well as many other photographs purported to be of Oswald with some here agreeing and some dissenting I am no photography expert or knowledgeable enough to discern if the facial structure/features in all, many, several, or few of all the photographs in question in the aforementioned thread are or are not of Oswald. FWIW, if memory serves the long-hair photograph (above) and the the one of Oswald with Marina, on the bridge in Minsk appear to be same person, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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