Ron Paul's new book that's coming out soon, looks interesting​💯​

[Leslie Sharp]

14 hours ago, Matthew Koch said:

 

What does this have to do with the JFKA other than the book is partly about it.

What a lame attempt to derail the thread, I should have mentioned you in the other thread I posted because this is the same kind of casting doubt "why is this thread here" malevolent behavior I was mentioning on it.. that Lefties like you use to get the Mods to kill threads your confirmation bias doesn't like.. But I guess that's Par for the Course with Pastor Galloway. 

 

Do the photos on the cover give it away, Matthew? Exploitation indeed.

Edited August 21, 2023 by Leslie Sharp

[Matthew Koch]

1 hour ago, David G. Healy said:

I didn't realize we gave posting crowns to a guy behind a curtain down Mexico way??? 

While I think about it, ya see a guy get off a bus resembling LHO anytime in the past?

Surely you can be productive someway, yes?

Thanks for sharing your Left Wing Political Bias David you know there is a place called the Water Cooler for people like you.. 


Ron Paul mentions the books thesis for those who don't let their political opinions effect their research at the 20 minute mark.

 

[Leslie Sharp]

Roger Stone

Roger Stone. dirty trickster extraordinaire, hosts Ron Paul

    

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5jo4S5NECAIt/  

Let's keep Roger Stone and Ron Paul in perspective in context of those photos on the book cover and how the rolling-coup launched in Dallas in 1963 is nearing a climax — the 2024 presidential election:

Extreme Right Advisors and Executors

With decades of Roy Cohn’s business and political tutelage under his belt, NY business entrepreneur and would-be president Donald Trump had been able to attract a seasoned group of political campaign strategists, among them Roger Stone. As a young legislator, future president Richard Nixon had been a member of the House Un-American Activities Committee and  had engaged directly with Roy Cohn who would eventually introduce Nixon’s “dirty trickster” Roger Stone to Donald Trump.

Stone, who not only readily adopted the ideology of Cohn, but improved upon his tactics to earn the sobriquet, achieved infamy when he was caricatured in the film “All the President’s Men,” the exposé of the Watergate investigation that led to Nixon’s downfall. Stone has long acknowledged the influence that the 1964 Republican Party candidate Barry Goldwater, who was scheduled to challenge President John Kennedy’s run for a second term, had on his early political development. It is that thin, seemingly innocuous thread within an immense series of spiderwebs spanning almost six decades since the assassination of Kennedy, that captured our fascination.  

Stone’s inspiration, Barry Goldwater—acknowledged as having started the twentieth century conservative revolution—had garnered the endorsement and support of what was referred to as a fringe element of the party. In fact, the John Birch Society had been hugely successful in recruiting followers and securing votes for Goldwater.  JBS spokesmen had included Isaac Levine’s mentor and AFC member Arthur Kohlberg. JBS leaders included McCarthy Hearings investigator Robert Morris, and Generals Charles Willoughby and Edwin Walker, both of whom Pierre Lafitte identifies as having been directly involved in the assassination of John Kennedy.

***

After the fall of Nixon, Stone pursued a Rasputin-esque political career and formed a consultancy firm with Republican lobbyist Paul Manafort whose credentials would later earn him a brief role as campaign chairman for presidential candidate Donald Trump, a stint that implicated him enough to be among the suspects of the Russian collusion allegations that roiled the 2016 US elections. Manafort was indicted in October 2017 on charges of mortgage fraud, conspiracy, and falsifying bank records; he was tried, convicted and sentenced to seven-plus years. Before leaving office, President Trump pardoned Paul Manafort.

 In 1980, Stone and Manafort’s firm had gotten behind the presidential candidacy of California Governor Ronald Reagan. When Stone was provided a Rolodex of New York supporters of the governor, the only name he considered of value was Roy Cohn. A decade later, Stone joined the presidential campaign of Arlen Specter who is known by assassination researchers as having invented the “magic bullet” theory that persuaded the Warren Commission that Lee Oswald was the sole assassin of President Kennedy. Fast forward to 2007, Stone was instrumental in bringing down New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer who was destined for a significant role in national Democratic Party politics. That particular dirty tricks operation which included an strong element of Cohen-style blackmail, coincided with Stone’s association with self-help guru, Keith Raniere, the leader of a cult he dubbed NXIVM whose tactics included amassing the deeply private histories of his female adherents that left them vulnerable to coercion if not blackmail. Raniere, who at one time carried Roger Stone on his payroll, relied on funding for his cult from the heirs of Edgar Bronfman of the Seagram’s liquor empire, primary investors in both Empire Trust and Permindex as discussed in early chapters in this book. Bronfman’s daughters attained Raniere's highest ranks, and in 2006, one of them purchased a multi-million dollar Manhattan apartment in Trump Tower. 

Ten years later, Stone, who for our purposes represents an archetypal element of the far-right ecosystem that spans decades, surfaced at Trump Tower to ignite the presidential campaign of Roy Cohn’s protégé, Donald Trump. He too was later indicted. His crimes were obstruction of an official proceeding, making false statements, and witness tampering. Stone was convicted and sentenced to forty months in prison but days before he was scheduled to report to the prison facility, President Trump commuted his sentence. . . . 

 

[Joe Bauer]

Roger Stone.

America's most infamous and prolific "Dirty Trickster."

A title he embraces with bragging gusto!

What a darkly perverse mind-set person. 

Always looking for ways to undermine his employer's competition.

Using any means possible no matter how unethical, immoral or even illegal.

Yuchh!

[Matthew Koch]

2 hours ago, Leslie Sharp said:

Roger Stone

Roger Stone. dirty trickster extraordinaire, hosts Ron Paul

    

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5jo4S5NECAIt/  

Let's keep Roger Stone and Ron Paul in perspective in context of those photos on the book cover and how the rolling-coup launched in Dallas in 1963 is nearing a climax — the 2024 presidential election:
 

Extreme Right Advisors and Executors

With decades of Roy Cohn’s business and political tutelage under his belt, NY business entrepreneur and would-be president Donald Trump had been able to attract a seasoned group of political campaign strategists, among them Roger Stone. As a young legislator, future president Richard Nixon had been a member of the House Un-American Activities Committee and  had engaged directly with Roy Cohn who would eventually introduce Nixon’s “dirty trickster” Roger Stone to Donald Trump.

Stone, who not only readily adopted the ideology of Cohn, but improved upon his tactics to earn the sobriquet, achieved infamy when he was caricatured in the film “All the President’s Men,” the exposé of the Watergate investigation that led to Nixon’s downfall. Stone has long acknowledged the influence that the 1964 Republican Party candidate Barry Goldwater, who was scheduled to challenge President John Kennedy’s run for a second term, had on his early political development. It is that thin, seemingly innocuous thread within an immense series of spiderwebs spanning almost six decades since the assassination of Kennedy, that captured our fascination.  

Stone’s inspiration, Barry Goldwater—acknowledged as having started the twentieth century conservative revolution—had garnered the endorsement and support of what was referred to as a fringe element of the party. In fact, the John Birch Society had been hugely successful in recruiting followers and securing votes for Goldwater.  JBS spokesmen had included Isaac Levine’s mentor and AFC member Arthur Kohlberg. JBS leaders included McCarthy Hearings investigator Robert Morris, and Generals Charles Willoughby and Edwin Walker, both of whom Pierre Lafitte identifies as having been directly involved in the assassination of John Kennedy.

***

After the fall of Nixon, Stone pursued a Rasputin-esque political career and formed a consultancy firm with Republican lobbyist Paul Manafort whose credentials would later earn him a brief role as campaign chairman for presidential candidate Donald Trump, a stint that implicated him enough to be among the suspects of the Russian collusion allegations that roiled the 2016 US elections. Manafort was indicted in October 2017 on charges of mortgage fraud, conspiracy, and falsifying bank records; he was tried, convicted and sentenced to seven-plus years. Before leaving office, President Trump pardoned Paul Manafort.

 In 1980, Stone and Manafort’s firm had gotten behind the presidential candidacy of California Governor Ronald Reagan. When Stone was provided a Rolodex of New York supporters of the governor, the only name he considered of value was Roy Cohn. A decade later, Stone joined the presidential campaign of Arlen Specter who is known by assassination researchers as having invented the “magic bullet” theory that persuaded the Warren Commission that Lee Oswald was the sole assassin of President Kennedy. Fast forward to 2007, Stone was instrumental in bringing down New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer who was destined for a significant role in national Democratic Party politics. That particular dirty tricks operation which included an strong element of Cohen-style blackmail, coincided with Stone’s association with self-help guru, Keith Raniere, the leader of a cult he dubbed NXIVM whose tactics included amassing the deeply private histories of his female adherents that left them vulnerable to coercion if not blackmail. Raniere, who at one time carried Roger Stone on his payroll, relied on funding for his cult from the heirs of Edgar Bronfman of the Seagram’s liquor empire, primary investors in both Empire Trust and Permindex as discussed in early chapters in this book. Bronfman’s daughters attained Raniere's highest ranks, and in 2006, one of them purchased a multi-million dollar Manhattan apartment in Trump Tower. 

Ten years later, Stone, who for our purposes represents an archetypal element of the far-right ecosystem that spans decades, surfaced at Trump Tower to ignite the presidential campaign of Roy Cohn’s protégé, Donald Trump. He too was later indicted. His crimes were obstruction of an official proceeding, making false statements, and witness tampering. Stone was convicted and sentenced to forty months in prison but days before he was scheduled to report to the prison facility, President Trump commuted his sentence. . . . 

 

@Sandy Larsen Can the Mods delete this since it doens't have to do which the topic and is basically hijacking the thread with a non sequitur that Ron Paul was interviewed once so he's part of the "Far Right Eco System" that killed JFK

Oh.. and if you could delete Ron and Davids attempts of derailing the thread do to it not comforming to their political bias that would be great!  

Thanks!! 

Edited August 21, 2023 by Matthew Koch

[W. Niederhut]

2 hours ago, Matthew Koch said:

Thanks for sharing your Left Wing Political Bias David you know there is a place called the Water Cooler for people like you.. 
 

Mathew,

     Do you know that there's a special place called the MAGA Water Cooler for people like you?  🙄

     In fact, it was set up especially for you and your fellow MAGAs, after you swamped the 56 Years thread with MAGA spam.

[Leslie Sharp]

Let's continue to connect some dots  beginning with the Texas contingency behind the attempted overthrow  of our 2020 election  and the subsequent insurrection at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, a.k.a. an attempted Coup:   Kenneth Chesebro, Sidney Powell, Ret. Col. Phil Waldron, Russell Ramsland, with certifiable sociopath Alex Jones on the megaphone.  See the complete list of Texans present at the Capitol on Jan 6 here: https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2022/06/10/complete-list-of-texas-suspects-charged-in-jan-6-capitol-breach-14-from-houston-area/
 

Then, lets' consider the ideological dots from Texan Ron Paul to his son Rand Paul on the insurrection of Jan 6, followed by Rand's discomfort at revisiting January 6 Committee revelations:

Booker: If it were up to Rand Paul, there would be no accountability for insurrectionists

Charles Booker

Opinion Contributor

 

The recent hearings on the Jan. 6  insurrection make one thing crystal clear: There are members of Congress, more specifically the Senate, who violated their oath to protect our democracy. Rand Paul’s one of those members. 

As Rep. Liz Cheney said, there’s no room for debate. The violent mob of insurrectionists stormed our capitol, beat, tased and degraded capitol police, and sought to kill the Vice President and members of Congress. If it were up to senators like Paul, there would be no accountability, which poses a danger and a threat to our security.

. . . 

Why did Paul dismiss the harrowing testimony and statements of capitol police officers who shared their experience during the Jan. 6 attempted coup –– the day an officer was killed trying to protect him and his colleagues against a vicious mob? Why does he oppose efforts to invest in community safety to protect our families?

. . . Documents entered into the record reveal that the group that organized the insurrection printed “Rand Paul…We the people love you” on their plans to storm capitol buildings. If that’s the surface, it’s fair to ask if digging deeper would cast an even more damning light on Paul’s involvement in the events of that day. Paul doesn’t want you to discover he abandoned and violated his oath to uphold the Constitution and protect our democracy. 

 

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/2022/06/28/if-were-up-rand-paul-there-would-no-accountability-jan-6/7748023001/

 

 

Ron Paul's dismissal of the investigation into that attempted Coup.

 

Ron Paul: Desperate Democrats Resurrect ‘Insurrection’ Theater
 

. . . What we won’t see in the hearings is any of the 14,000 unreleased hours of surveillance. What little we have been able to see so far has raised more questions than answers about the official telling of the events. We also won’t hear anything about how many of the “insurrectionists” were actually government informers or even provocateurs. And we certainly won’t get any answers as to why the police actually seemed to be opening the doors and inviting the people inside.

Maybe that’s because the January 6th Committee is a star chamber, where the only Republicans – the deeply unpopular Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger – have been hand-selected by Nancy Pelosi.
https://www.fitsnews.com/2022/06/13/ron-paul-desperate-democrats-resurrect-insurrection-theater/

Fast forward to Rand's father, Ron Paul's further exploitation of the Kennedy name:

U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.) and former U.S. Representative Ron Paul agree that America does not have a free market. Referencing RFK Jr. stating that America has “a crony corporatist system,” Paul stressed: “He’s right!”

RFK Jr. and Ron Paul on Free Market

Former U.S. Representative Ron Paul has expressed his agreement with U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.), who recently said that America does not have a free market. Kennedy is a son of former U.S. Attorney General and Senator Robert F. Kennedy and nephew of former U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Paul, an American author, physician, and retired politician, served as a U.S. representative and made three attempts to become the president of the United States. In 2015, he founded the Ron Paul Liberty Report, a platform dedicated to offering insightful opinions and analysis on contemporary issues affecting our lives and finances. Paul tweeted Saturday: “RFK Jr. recently pointed out that America doesn’t have a free market, but rather a crony corporatist system. He’s right!"

FORBESFORBES DIGITAL ASSETS

 

 

 

So how does BITCOIN factor in?

Ron Paul Political Director Quietly Mines Bitcoin And Builds New Blockchain Company

Jason Brett

Senior Contributor

Almost as interesting as the transactions executed in rolling out his blockchain firm to the public is Bergman himself. From his days working on the College Republicans for Jack Kemp, he quickly found himself between both Austrian economic theorists and gold standard champions. Bergman also has a charitable organization called ‘Patriots for Christ’ that teaches Americans to uphold their civic duty based on religious scripture. Finally, with his work as a movie producer of the documentary ‘Unfair: Exposing The IRS’, Bergman keeps himself busy.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbrett/2020/07/12/political-director-for-ron-paul-quietly-mines-bitcoin-and-builds-new-blockchain-company/?sh=637a46691515

And now, following the BITCOIN trail from Ed Forum threads to this from Ed Pilkington of The Guardian on the transformation of mild-mannered, liberal leaning attorney Kenneth Chesebro who once sat at the feet of Lawrence Tribe at Harvard:


‘It baffles me’: what drew a mild lawyer with a liberal past into Trump’s election plot?
 

' . . . Had the clock stopped there, Chesebro’s career might have been summed up as successful yet unexceptional. But around 2014 his life took a startling turn.

He invested in BITCOIN (emphasis added) and appears to have struck gold, telling Tribe that he made several million dollars. New-found wealth coincided with a dramatic volte-face in his political affiliations.

By 2016 he was working on a case challenging birthright citizenship with John Eastman, the rightwing constitutional lawyer who was also indicted in Georgia this week. In 2018, Chesebro represented the hard-right Republican senators Ted Cruz and Mike Lee in a voting rights case. 
 

His political donations also did a U-turn, swinging to Trump favourites such as JD Vance in Ohio and Ron Johnson in Wisconsin.

Why Chesebro’s BITCOIN BONANZA (emphasis added)  should have transformed him from a liberal into a radical conservative is one of the great unanswered puzzles of this story. The consequences of the shift were clear, though, as it brought him into the orbit of Trump campaign lawyers who were on the lookout for legal back-up as they sought to counter defeat in the 2020 election.

Six days after the election, Chesebro was contacted by James Troupis, a former judge in Wisconsin with whom he’d worked on the Cruz-Lee case. Troupis was Trump’s main campaign lawyer in the state.

. . . In the words of the federal judge David Carter, the idea was in essence “a coup in search of a legal theory”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/19/kenneth-chesebro-trump-georgia-indictment-fake-electors

and then there's this:
 

Edited August 21, 2023 by Leslie Sharp

[Matthew Koch]

1 hour ago, W. Niederhut said:

Mathew,

     Do you know that there's a special place called the MAGA Water Cooler for people like you?  🙄

     In fact, it was set up especially for you and your fellow MAGAs, after you swamped the 56 Years thread with MAGA spam.

The topic is about Ron Paul's Book which is about the JFKA and RFKA and MLKA unfortunately political partisan people like yourself are making it about politics which isn't the topic of the thread it is the Book which is about how the Assassinations played an effect on western society due to the deep state. 

But since you aren't well read on those topic you have to make it about your politics 

You're behavior is abominable towards people who don't share your cult MSNPC DNC Donk politics and you are lucky this forum isn't a democracy as Sandy says.. or else you would get suspended for your habitual attempts at sabotaging threads that don't fit your bias. 

[W. Niederhut]

2 hours ago, Matthew Koch said:

The topic is about Ron Paul's Book which is about the JFKA and RFKA and MLKA unfortunately political partisan people like yourself are making it about politics which isn't the topic of the thread it is the Book which is about how the Assassinations played an effect on western society due to the deep state. 

But since you aren't well read on those topic you have to make it about your politics 

I'm not well read?  Get a clue, Mathew.

I won the Gordon Rhode Dewart Prize in the Humanities, and graduated Magna Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa at Brown, with a major in American Studies (graduating, incidentally, the year JFK, Jr. enrolled at Brown and majored in American Studies.)

I've probably forgotten more about American history than you'll ever know.

As for your Ron and Rand Paul libertarian horse manure, post it on your MAGA Water Cooler board.

Anyone who still thinks libertarianism is a viable political philosophy for a functional, equitable American society hasn't studied or understood the history of the Gilded Age, the Progressive movement, the New Deal, or basic macroeconomics.

You 21st century Koch Republicans have no in-depth understanding of the historic failures of laissez faire capitalism.  You want to repeat historic mistakes that you don't even remember.

Edited August 22, 2023 by W. Niederhut

[Matthew Koch]

1 hour ago, Leslie Sharp said:

Let's continue to connect some dots  beginning with the Texas contingency behind the attempted overthrow  of our 2020 election  and the subsequent insurrection at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021, a.k.a. an attempted Coup:   Kenneth Chesebro, Sidney Powell, Ret. Col. Phil Waldron, Russell Ramsland, with certifiable sociopath Alex Jones on the megaphone.  See the complete list of Texans present at the Capitol on Jan 6 here: https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2022/06/10/complete-list-of-texas-suspects-charged-in-jan-6-capitol-breach-14-from-houston-area/
 

Then, lets' consider the ideological dots from Texan Ron Paul to his son Rand Paul on the insurrection of Jan 6, followed by Rand's discomfort at revisiting January 6 Committee revelations:

Booker: If it were up to Rand Paul, there would be no accountability for insurrectionists

Charles Booker

Opinion Contributor

 

The recent hearings on the Jan. 6  insurrection make one thing crystal clear: There are members of Congress, more specifically the Senate, who violated their oath to protect our democracy. Rand Paul’s one of those members. 

As Rep. Liz Cheney said, there’s no room for debate. The violent mob of insurrectionists stormed our capitol, beat, tased and degraded capitol police, and sought to kill the Vice President and members of Congress. If it were up to senators like Paul, there would be no accountability, which poses a danger and a threat to our security.

. . . 

Why did Paul dismiss the harrowing testimony and statements of capitol police officers who shared their experience during the Jan. 6 attempted coup –– the day an officer was killed trying to protect him and his colleagues against a vicious mob? Why does he oppose efforts to invest in community safety to protect our families?

. . . Documents entered into the record reveal that the group that organized the insurrection printed “Rand Paul…We the people love you” on their plans to storm capitol buildings. If that’s the surface, it’s fair to ask if digging deeper would cast an even more damning light on Paul’s involvement in the events of that day. Paul doesn’t want you to discover he abandoned and violated his oath to uphold the Constitution and protect our democracy. 

 

https://www.courier-journal.com/story/opinion/2022/06/28/if-were-up-rand-paul-there-would-no-accountability-jan-6/7748023001/

 

 

Ron Paul's dismissal of the investigation into that attempted Coup.

 

Ron Paul: Desperate Democrats Resurrect ‘Insurrection’ Theater
 

. . . What we won’t see in the hearings is any of the 14,000 unreleased hours of surveillance. What little we have been able to see so far has raised more questions than answers about the official telling of the events. We also won’t hear anything about how many of the “insurrectionists” were actually government informers or even provocateurs. And we certainly won’t get any answers as to why the police actually seemed to be opening the doors and inviting the people inside.

Maybe that’s because the January 6th Committee is a star chamber, where the only Republicans – the deeply unpopular Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger – have been hand-selected by Nancy Pelosi.
https://www.fitsnews.com/2022/06/13/ron-paul-desperate-democrats-resurrect-insurrection-theater/

Fast forward to Rand's father, Ron Paul's further exploitation of the Kennedy name:

U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.) and former U.S. Representative Ron Paul agree that America does not have a free market. Referencing RFK Jr. stating that America has “a crony corporatist system,” Paul stressed: “He’s right!”

RFK Jr. and Ron Paul on Free Market

Former U.S. Representative Ron Paul has expressed his agreement with U.S. presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. (RFK Jr.), who recently said that America does not have a free market. Kennedy is a son of former U.S. Attorney General and Senator Robert F. Kennedy and nephew of former U.S. President John F. Kennedy. Paul, an American author, physician, and retired politician, served as a U.S. representative and made three attempts to become the president of the United States. In 2015, he founded the Ron Paul Liberty Report, a platform dedicated to offering insightful opinions and analysis on contemporary issues affecting our lives and finances. Paul tweeted Saturday: “RFK Jr. recently pointed out that America doesn’t have a free market, but rather a crony corporatist system. He’s right!"

FORBESFORBES DIGITAL ASSETS

 

 

 

So how does BITCOIN factor in?

Ron Paul Political Director Quietly Mines Bitcoin And Builds New Blockchain Company

Jason Brett

Senior Contributor

Almost as interesting as the transactions executed in rolling out his blockchain firm to the public is Bergman himself. From his days working on the College Republicans for Jack Kemp, he quickly found himself between both Austrian economic theorists and gold standard champions. Bergman also has a charitable organization called ‘Patriots for Christ’ that teaches Americans to uphold their civic duty based on religious scripture. Finally, with his work as a movie producer of the documentary ‘Unfair: Exposing The IRS’, Bergman keeps himself busy.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonbrett/2020/07/12/political-director-for-ron-paul-quietly-mines-bitcoin-and-builds-new-blockchain-company/?sh=637a46691515

And now, following the BITCOIN trail from Ed Forum threads to this from Ed Pilkington of The Guardian on the transformation of mild-mannered, liberal leaning attorney Kenneth Chesebro who once sat at the feet of Lawrence Tribe at Harvard:


‘It baffles me’: what drew a mild lawyer with a liberal past into Trump’s election plot?
 

' . . . Had the clock stopped there, Chesebro’s career might have been summed up as successful yet unexceptional. But around 2014 his life took a startling turn.

He invested in BITCOIN (emphasis added) and appears to have struck gold, telling Tribe that he made several million dollars. New-found wealth coincided with a dramatic volte-face in his political affiliations.

By 2016 he was working on a case challenging birthright citizenship with John Eastman, the rightwing constitutional lawyer who was also indicted in Georgia this week. In 2018, Chesebro represented the hard-right Republican senators Ted Cruz and Mike Lee in a voting rights case. 
 

His political donations also did a U-turn, swinging to Trump favourites such as JD Vance in Ohio and Ron Johnson in Wisconsin.

Why Chesebro’s BITCOIN BONANZA (emphasis added)  should have transformed him from a liberal into a radical conservative is one of the great unanswered puzzles of this story. The consequences of the shift were clear, though, as it brought him into the orbit of Trump campaign lawyers who were on the lookout for legal back-up as they sought to counter defeat in the 2020 election.

Six days after the election, Chesebro was contacted by James Troupis, a former judge in Wisconsin with whom he’d worked on the Cruz-Lee case. Troupis was Trump’s main campaign lawyer in the state.

. . . In the words of the federal judge David Carter, the idea was in essence “a coup in search of a legal theory”.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/19/kenneth-chesebro-trump-georgia-indictment-fake-electors

and then there's this:
 

This is Pepe Silvia Logic 

 

[Matthew Koch]

2 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said:

I'm not well read?  Get a clue, Mathew.

I won the Gordon Rhode Dewart Prize in the Humanities, and graduated Magna Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa at Brown, with a major in American Studies (graduating, incidentally, the year JFK, Jr. enrolled at Brown and majored in American Studies.)

I've probably forgotten more about American history than you'll ever know.

As for your Ron and Rand Paul libertarian horse manure, post it on your MAGA Water Cooler board.

Anyone who still thinks libertarianism is a viable political philosophy for a functional, equitable American society hasn't studied or understood the history of the Gilded Age, the Progressive movement, the New Deal, or basic macroeconomics.

You 21st century Koch Republicans have no in depth understanding of the historic failures of laissez faire capitalism.  You want to repeat historic mistakes that you don't remember.

You are the guy that didn't know until a few months ago that the Muchmoore film existed, Chris B told me about how it took your patients to convince you that the JFKA was a conspiracy (Condesending tone added)

Sorry you can't understand that my saying that you are not well read was in reference to the JFKA, RFKA, and MLKA but since you are bad faith poster, you have to misrepresent my argument just like you are trying to turn the thread into a politics post like I said you habitually do..  

[Matthew Koch]

4 hours ago, Leslie Sharp said:

Roger Stone

Roger Stone. dirty trickster extraordinaire, hosts Ron Paul

    

https://www.bitchute.com/video/5jo4S5NECAIt/  

Let's keep Roger Stone and Ron Paul in perspective in context of those photos on the book cover and how the rolling-coup launched in Dallas in 1963 is nearing a climax — the 2024 presidential election:
 

Extreme Right Advisors and Executors

With decades of Roy Cohn’s business and political tutelage under his belt, NY business entrepreneur and would-be president Donald Trump had been able to attract a seasoned group of political campaign strategists, among them Roger Stone. As a young legislator, future president Richard Nixon had been a member of the House Un-American Activities Committee and  had engaged directly with Roy Cohn who would eventually introduce Nixon’s “dirty trickster” Roger Stone to Donald Trump.

Stone, who not only readily adopted the ideology of Cohn, but improved upon his tactics to earn the sobriquet, achieved infamy when he was caricatured in the film “All the President’s Men,” the exposé of the Watergate investigation that led to Nixon’s downfall. Stone has long acknowledged the influence that the 1964 Republican Party candidate Barry Goldwater, who was scheduled to challenge President John Kennedy’s run for a second term, had on his early political development. It is that thin, seemingly innocuous thread within an immense series of spiderwebs spanning almost six decades since the assassination of Kennedy, that captured our fascination.  

Stone’s inspiration, Barry Goldwater—acknowledged as having started the twentieth century conservative revolution—had garnered the endorsement and support of what was referred to as a fringe element of the party. In fact, the John Birch Society had been hugely successful in recruiting followers and securing votes for Goldwater.  JBS spokesmen had included Isaac Levine’s mentor and AFC member Arthur Kohlberg. JBS leaders included McCarthy Hearings investigator Robert Morris, and Generals Charles Willoughby and Edwin Walker, both of whom Pierre Lafitte identifies as having been directly involved in the assassination of John Kennedy.

***

After the fall of Nixon, Stone pursued a Rasputin-esque political career and formed a consultancy firm with Republican lobbyist Paul Manafort whose credentials would later earn him a brief role as campaign chairman for presidential candidate Donald Trump, a stint that implicated him enough to be among the suspects of the Russian collusion allegations that roiled the 2016 US elections. Manafort was indicted in October 2017 on charges of mortgage fraud, conspiracy, and falsifying bank records; he was tried, convicted and sentenced to seven-plus years. Before leaving office, President Trump pardoned Paul Manafort.

 In 1980, Stone and Manafort’s firm had gotten behind the presidential candidacy of California Governor Ronald Reagan. When Stone was provided a Rolodex of New York supporters of the governor, the only name he considered of value was Roy Cohn. A decade later, Stone joined the presidential campaign of Arlen Specter who is known by assassination researchers as having invented the “magic bullet” theory that persuaded the Warren Commission that Lee Oswald was the sole assassin of President Kennedy. Fast forward to 2007, Stone was instrumental in bringing down New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer who was destined for a significant role in national Democratic Party politics. That particular dirty tricks operation which included an strong element of Cohen-style blackmail, coincided with Stone’s association with self-help guru, Keith Raniere, the leader of a cult he dubbed NXIVM whose tactics included amassing the deeply private histories of his female adherents that left them vulnerable to coercion if not blackmail. Raniere, who at one time carried Roger Stone on his payroll, relied on funding for his cult from the heirs of Edgar Bronfman of the Seagram’s liquor empire, primary investors in both Empire Trust and Permindex as discussed in early chapters in this book. Bronfman’s daughters attained Raniere's highest ranks, and in 2006, one of them purchased a multi-million dollar Manhattan apartment in Trump Tower. 

Ten years later, Stone, who for our purposes represents an archetypal element of the far-right ecosystem that spans decades, surfaced at Trump Tower to ignite the presidential campaign of Roy Cohn’s protégé, Donald Trump. He too was later indicted. His crimes were obstruction of an official proceeding, making false statements, and witness tampering. Stone was convicted and sentenced to forty months in prison but days before he was scheduled to report to the prison facility, President Trump commuted his sentence. . . . 

 

This scene from Black Dynamite makes more sense and is more in line with reality than this post 

 

[Leslie Sharp]

Thread Title: Ron Paul's new book that's coming out soon, looks interesting

Comments related to a book's author — particularly a highly political and opinionated author like Ron Paul — are not only entirely relevant, they provide insight into the content of a book you insist "looks interesting."

Let's not get into petty attempts at censorship simply because you might be uncomfortable with the Pauls' history and possible associations with those who attempted to overturn the 2020 election or those who stormed the Capitol Jan 6 - assuming of course that would make you uncomfortable?

[Matthew Koch]

10 minutes ago, Leslie Sharp said:

Thread Title: Ron Paul's new book that's coming out soon, looks interesting

Comments related to a book's author — particularly a highly political and opinionated author like Ron Paul — are not only entirely relevant, they provide insight into the content of a book you insist "looks interesting."

Let's not get into petty attempts at censorship simply because you might be uncomfortable with the Pauls' history and possible associations with those who attempted to overturn the 2020 election or those who stormed the Capitol Jan 6 - assuming of course that would make you uncomfortable?

Unfortunately the only thing relevant to the content of the book has been posted by me, you gave us your Montenegro Nazi monster plot thesis that is the Plot to Mother Knight By Kurt Vonnegut

 

5 hours ago, Matthew Koch said:

Thanks for sharing your Left Wing Political Bias David you know there is a place called the Water Cooler for people like you.. 


Ron Paul mentions the books thesis for those who don't let their political opinions effect their research at the 20 minute mark.

 

 

Edited August 22, 2023 by Matthew Koch

[Leslie Sharp]

Reviewing Ron Paul's book, End the Fed I'm reminded that we've seen this dog and pony show before.

 

The Federal Reserve Hoax. Vennard, Wicliffe B.—A standard work on the Fed, originally published in 1963, explains just how the Fed was created and how it has perpetrated at least 100 acts of treason against the United States and her people. Includes a foreword by Lt. Gen. Pedro A. del Valle and a chapter by populist Congressman Louis McFadden. Also explains how bankers have become an invisible world government. Softcover, 364 pages, indexed, $18.95.—advertised in Willis Carto’s “Special Report on the Bogus Budget From American Free Press,” 2011. Louis McFadden is widely considered one of America’s most outspoken anti-Semites of his era who endorsed the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.


It's likely Matthew Koch is unaware of this history, but suffice to say, something along the same lines relates directly to the assassination of President Kennedy in Dallas in 1963:
 

On the other side of Lafitte’s chronology that refers to “d. Valle,” Pedro de Valle wrote to Wickliffe Vennard, the leader of the Constitution Party living in South Texas on July 2nd. Further pursued in an endnote to Chapter 6 of this book, Vennard was involved with the transfer of ownership of Russell Maguire’s American Mercury magazine to Nazi Willis Carto with General Walker retaining influence over content of the publication. In July ’63, del Valle advises Vennard that he has had been in touch with a worldwide Christian movement headquartered in Madrid, Spain, “whose objectives are in accord with yours.” 

            [Dr. Jeffrey] Caufield reveals that the Madrid group was to meet Vennard—author of Federal Reserve Hoax: The Age of Deception, published in January 1963 and promoted vigorously with the phrases, “It’s Your Money” and ”the Age of Deception Exposed!” Del Valle tells Vennard that the Madrid contingency would be connected up with his representatives who were to pose as tourists. The meeting was to take place at “a quiet hotel.” Del Valle assured Vennard that his Madrid contacts would offer “collaboration and a scheme of action.” As Caufield writes, “the letter is filled with cryptic references suggesting a secret operation that may have been related to an assassination plot.” With hindsight, it is equally, if not more plausible that rather than active involvement of this wide cast of characters in New Orleans and or Madrid, it was the blessing or imprimatur of the “church group” that was being sought.

 

 

 

 

Edited August 22, 2023 by Leslie Sharp