Terry Mauro Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Terry, I dunno, don't know how to read that one. I think Hoover started to involve the bureau when kids started sending him applications for membership to 'The Draft Dodgers Club' and inquiries for 'Hoover Tonic'. General Walker, his lawyer Brig. Gen. Watts and others jumped on the band wagon and alerted Hoover of this seditious rag. Other parents and fine outstanding citizen kids sent a lot of alerts re the editors and even AE Neuman being communists. For a lot it was all tounge and cheek, but for some it was as bad as playing 'sounds of music' backwards. (note, the FBI did conclude that A.E. Neuman was a fictional character, on the whole they just grinned and bore it I think. Apparently one agent wrote on a concerned parents letter a comment 'the kid probably blew his dad a raspberry'). (Possibly the fact that one of the owners of MAD was a jew had something to do with things? Walker seems to have been a bit rabid.) They (MAD) hit pretty hard at the JBS. ******************************************************************************** Hi John, Sorry for misleading anyone regarding my capitalization of the word MAD, as it wasn't in reference to the magazine MAD, but to M-Ad for Madison Avenue-Advertizing firms, and their incessantly moronic ad campaigns. I should have hyphenated that, or better yet, written it out. David Berg, one of Mad Magazine's artists and writers, was a friend of my family's. He knew my Dad, who was a commercial artist since the 1920's, and worked with many of the firms on Madison Avenue. The Berg's lived on Davenport Road in New Rochelle, NY, and the Mauro's lived on Harding Drive, so there were many times our families ran into each other, either as a whole, or separately, on Main Street, or at the beach in Hudson Park, located on the Long Island Sound. We had lost contact over the years, after I moved to the coast, and with the passing of my parents within 5 years of one another during the 1980's. In 2002, I would find a David Berg scheduled for a Bone Scan with me at Western Imaging Center, but would not recognize him at first. I hadn't lived at my parent's house in New Rochelle since 1963, and as I related above, lost contact with alot of people, over time. But, as I was walking him and his wife and daughter down to their car in the parking garage, I mentioned that my family had known a David Berg and family in our hometown of New Rochelle, and that's when they told me it was them! He apparently hadn't noticed my name tag and last name, and since I was no longer a brunette and was now wearing glasses, they didn't recognize me at first, either. So, it was a melancholy little reunion of sorts to find this once tall and robust gentleman now, seemingly old and shrunken with age. He passed away a few months later, but had sent me some excerpts of the things he was working on, and just as my own father had, he worked on his art until the day he died. His daughter called me and told me the news. But, it was such a treat to find an old friend, who had relocated out here to Marina Del Rey some twenty or so years after I had moved to California, looking to escape those cold New York winters. I grew up reading MAD Magazine, and still picked it up from time to time over the years. I loved the Spy vs Spy section, and especially loved those little sketches inserted between the spaces separating the actual storyline drawings. MAD Magazine was an accurate parody of everything Operation Mockingbird stood for. Those guys were on the money with their satirical mimickings of the establishment, and the hippocracy surrounding our everyday lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Mauro Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Perhaps this is a proper place to ask, to what extent is "the wealthy" organized internationally? Is there really a cabal of international bankers running everything? Is there really a group called the Bilderbergers that get together every year or whenever to plot the financial rape of everyone else? This leads ultimately to the idea of the "Illuminati," who worship Satan and sacrifice babies or dine on them when not counting their money. There are websites where you can read about this kind of stuff, but there's no way of knowing if there's an ounce of truth anywhere in it, which makes it seem like a waste of time to read about it. It all sounds farfetched, till you realize that something called the MIC does in fact exist and runs America and is all about war which is all about money which is all about screwing everybody else, and it's got the MI5 or 6 and whoever else on its side, and you've got real entities like Skull and Bones at Yale turning out such secretive world dangers as George W. Bush. Sometimes I don't know what to make of it all. I get this nagging fear that I'm stupid or naive to think that the "Illuminati" is a bunch of ridiculous crap, when I know for a fact there are monsters ruling America. Can any light be shed on this stuff? ************************************************************************ You left out Bohemian Grove, Ron. Which IS real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Mauro Posted October 30, 2005 Share Posted October 30, 2005 Easy.Monsters do not rule America. ******************************************************** Only the Fascists rule America. Anyone possessing half a brain is aware of that fact. Oh, and as far as what my political leanings are? I'm a Revolutionary Socialist ready and waiting for the resultant anarchy to follow, as soon as the bubble explodes, and it will explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen Turner Posted October 31, 2005 Share Posted October 31, 2005 Terry, just for you, all power to the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Mauro Posted November 2, 2005 Share Posted November 2, 2005 Terry, just for you, all power to the people. ******************************************************** Thanks, Stephen. I assure you, I shall treasure this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Howard Posted January 5, 2007 Share Posted January 5, 2007 Terry, just for you, all power to the people. ******************************************************** Thanks, Stephen. I assure you, I shall treasure this. Somewhat related, and of interest to someone? http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2102-1769245,00.html LAST PLAYBOY: The High Life of Porfirio Rubirosa by Shawn Levy Salient paragraph of the review "Yet there was the secret working life of a diplomat, from a minor Caribbean dictatorship: as a courier, he took money from Trujillo to New York and paid the assassins of a Dominican political exile; he was posted to Paris and, later, to Buenos Aires; he sold Dominican visas to Jews wishing to flee Europe; he made efforts, encouraged by JFK, to sway Trujillo into liberalisations, although this was overtaken by the dictator ’s assassination. Rubi needed patronage, but most important from Trujillo’s point of view, his colourful gallivantings put Dominica on the map for reasons other than its record of political repression." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Robertson Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Some interesting links regarding Generalissimo Rafael Leónidas Trujillo (1891-1961): The Era of Trujillo Latin American Studies TIME Magazine: Dominican Republic - Blood on the Beach excerpt below: Mud on the Flag. Trujillo threw his 15,000-man army into the fighting, called up reserves, sent his "Anti-Communist Foreign Legion" of retired army men to guard the Haitian border, mobilized the "Horsemen of the East" —a private army led by Cattleman (and former consul in New York) Felix Bernardino. Felix Bernardino - Click here for Background and photo below: Zach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Robertson Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Norman Gall Publications How the Agency Killed TrujilloThe New Republic - April 13, 1963, republished June 28, 1975 The assassination of the Dominican Republic’s Rafael L. Trujillo was carried out with assistance from the US Central Intelligence Agency. Arms for the May 30, 1961. slaying of the 69-year-old dictator on a lonely stretch of highway near his capital were smuggled by the CIA into the country at the request of the assassins, according to highly qualified sources I interviewed in Santo Domingo shortly after the collapse of the Trujillo rule. The arms had to come from the outside, I was told, because of the close scrutiny imposed by Trujillo on the removal of guns from military bases. These controls kept the conspirators from obtaining their own weapons without awakening suspicion, despite the involvement in the plot of the Secretary of State for the Armed Forces, Gen. Jose Rene Roman Fernandez, and other leading military officers. The CIA began shipping arms to the Dominican Republic in late 1960... As Trujillo’s political and financial problems deepened, talks continued between Dearborn, Barfield and leaders of the anti-Trujillo conspiracy. Toward the end of 1960, contact was established between Amiama and a CIA agent who, according to Arturo R. Espaillat, former head of Trujillo’s Military Intelligence Service, was named "Plato Cox" [Robert Emmett Johnson]. Espaillat made this statement in a press conference in Ottawa in 1962... Trujillo murder victim Jesús de Galíndez below Zach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) Trujillo and Duvalier both get a workover, and have some hideous crimes exposed, in the new book Red Heat, by Alex von Tunzelmann. It's a harrowing read on Dominica and Haiti, but unfortunately is loose with Seymour Hersh-like tales of JFK misbehavior, as if that was what prevented liberation in the Caribbean. Otherwise, a hellish indictment of two dictators: http://www.amazon.com/Red-Heat-Conspiracy-Murder-Caribbean/dp/0805090673/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1309839134&sr=8-1-fkmr0 I was surprised that the death of Galindez didn't make it in, when unsubstantiable JFK canards did. But still worth a reading. Edited July 5, 2011 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Robertson Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 Trujillo and Duvalier both get a workover, and have some hideous crimes exposed, in the new book Red Heat, by Alex von Tunzelmann. It's a harrowing read on Dominica and Haiti, but unfortunately is loose with Seymour Hersh-like tales of JFK misbehavior, as if that was what prevented liberation in the Caribbean. Otherwise, a hellish indictment of two dictators: http://www.amazon.com/Red-Heat-Conspiracy-Murder-Caribbean/dp/0805090673/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1309839134&sr=8-1-fkmr0 I was surprised that the death of Galindez didn't make it in, when unsubstantiable JFK canards did. But still worth a reading. David, Thanks for the link to the new book. Using the "Inside Feature" to check the index, it is always interesting to see the names mentioned throughout the book and in this case, the names not mentioned. Zach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) Trujillo and Duvalier both get a workover, and have some hideous crimes exposed, in the new book Red Heat, by Alex von Tunzelmann. It's a harrowing read on Dominica and Haiti, but unfortunately is loose with Seymour Hersh-like tales of JFK misbehavior, as if that was what prevented liberation in the Caribbean. Otherwise, a hellish indictment of two dictators: http://www.amazon.com/Red-Heat-Conspiracy-Murder-Caribbean/dp/0805090673/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1309839134&sr=8-1-fkmr0 I was surprised that the death of Galindez didn't make it in, when unsubstantiable JFK canards did. But still worth a reading. David, Thanks for the link to the new book. Using the "Inside Feature" to check the index, it is always interesting to see the names mentioned throughout the book and in this case, the names not mentioned. Zach It's worth a look strictly for Trujillo and Duvalier who get a lot of print therein. Who did you find conspicuously missing in Haiti or Santo Domingo? Edited July 5, 2011 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Robertson Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 David, Loran Hall, Frank Sturgis, Felipe Vidal, Bill Johnson and Robert Emmett Johnson. I figured between helping facilitate the assassination of Trujillo and conspiring in numerous failed vest pocket invasions of Haiti, I thought REJ might get at least a passing mention, but I am not surprised he didn't. Zach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) David, Loran Hall, Frank Sturgis, Felipe Vidal, Bill Johnson and Robert Emmett Johnson. I figured between helping facilitate the assassination of Trujillo and conspiring in numerous failed vest pocket invasions of Haiti, I thought REJ might get at least a passing mention, but I am not surprised he didn't. Zach Sadly - I dropped the book off in a library box this morning, or I'd double check for you. Agency supply of various Trujillo assassination weapons is discussed. Edited July 5, 2011 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kelly Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) Some interesting links regarding Generalissimo Rafael Leónidas Trujillo (1891-1961): The Era of Trujillo Latin American Studies TIME Magazine: Dominican Republic - Blood on the Beach excerpt below: Mud on the Flag. Trujillo threw his 15,000-man army into the fighting, called up reserves, sent his "Anti-Communist Foreign Legion" of retired army men to guard the Haitian border, mobilized the "Horsemen of the East" —a private army led by Cattleman (and former consul in New York) Felix Bernardino. Felix Bernardino - Click here for Background and photo below: Zach I also find it curious that David Atlee Phillips was assigned to Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic (1965-7) international.loc.gov/service/mss/eadxmlmss/eadpdfmss/2009/ms009050.pdf In his memoirs Nightwatch, I recall him recounting how just after he was assigned to Santo Domingo LBJ sent in the Marines. BK Edited July 5, 2011 by William Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Robertson Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 David, I appreciate that. Another name that is not mentioned who I'd like to learn more about is Napolean Vilaboa. Here is a cable from 1965: CUBAN EXILES AND PLANS FOR THE FORMATION OF A COMPANY OF MEN FOR DUTY IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC ======= Bill, Here is something else that I find curious: MICHAEL C. CHOADEN, MY FRIEND I just found that after a quick search. I am sure there are plenty more documents regarding Phillips' time in the Dominican. What is WOFIRM? Mary Ferrell WOFIRM search Zach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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