Ron Ecker Posted February 10, 2008 Author Posted February 10, 2008 There is the very real possibility that Osborne knew George Parr. Mario Sapet had been a former Deputy Sheriff under Parr.On April 1 1975, the official story goes that Parr drove to a lonely windmill in Duvall County and shot himself in the head. Those mid 1970's were a time of many demises it seems. James, I don't know if I missed your post back in September or forgot to respond. I don't think Parr's was a suspicious death. He had been convicted of income tax evasion and sentenced to five years in prison. He was out on bond pending the outcome of his appeal. When he lost the appeal, he failed to show up for a court appearance and a manhunt ensued. He was found shot to death in his car with his .45, though he had apparently been prepared to shoot it out, as he also had his AR-15 assault rifle and ammo in the car. He wanted to stay out of prison bad. The article on Osborne that I began this thread about has again migrated on the web. The new (and hopefully final) URL is http://hobrad.angelfire.com/osborne.html Ron
Robert Howard Posted February 10, 2008 Posted February 10, 2008 Ron, have you ever noticed that there is a similar address to Calle Niza 22 in some of the newer declassified documents? To be more specific see SMALL, CHARLES (ALIAS OF CHARLES NELSON SMOLIKOFF) Sources: WC Vol 24, p. 631; CE 2121, pp. 122-123; CD 1006; CIA 1120-422c Mary's Comments: DOB: 3/16/11. POB: Brooklyn, NY. Resided in Mexico City and operated a tourist type store at Calle Niza #47, where he sold silver jewelry and other gift items. He was one of the most prominent associates of the American Communist Group in Mexico. I cannot help but think of the maddening hunt to determine where in Mexico LHO bought the bracelet for Marina. So, when I saw this blurb on Charles Smolikoff, it made me wonder since one would think the Warren Commission would have jumped at the chance to link Oswald to an ostensible Communist.......There is a flaw in that theory, mainly that the Warren Commission might not have wanted to even remotely suggest that Oswald was near Calle Niza 22, because that would mean the fact Osborne/Bowen and LHO being on the same bus was not the only possible time they were in proximity to each other....... Any thoughts?
Ron Ecker Posted February 10, 2008 Author Posted February 10, 2008 Ron, have you ever noticed that there is a similar address to Calle Niza 22 in some of the newer declassified documents? Robert, What is the Osborne connection to Calle Niza 22? It doesn't ring a bell. Ron
Robert Howard Posted February 11, 2008 Posted February 11, 2008 Ron, have you ever noticed that there is a similar address to Calle Niza 22 in some of the newer declassified documents? Robert, What is the Osborne connection to Calle Niza 22? It doesn't ring a bell. Ron Rev. Fred Allen Jr. stated that the last time he had heard from John Bowen was a postcard from San Antonio, and that the new address furnished by Bowen was Niza 22, Mexico D.F. That is CE 2195 http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=145196 In the FBI's Oswald Mexico City File, Wells Fargo American Express employee Manuel Pineda identified three photographs of John Bowen as "a person who had received mail at that address over the last 2 or 3 years." At that point the address is listed as Calle Niza 22; The interview with Pineda was dated 1-21-64, and Pineda stated he had seen Bowen "about 2 weeks ago." http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=742858
Ron Ecker Posted February 11, 2008 Author Posted February 11, 2008 Robert, Thanks. It's conceivable that Oswald learned of the tourist shop on Niza, where he could buy something for his wife, from Osborne, since Osborne cashed his checks and received mail at the American Express office not far from the shop. This would not be surprising, considering the time they spent conversing together on the bus to Mexico, though of course Osborne later denied seeing Oswald on the bus or having any conversation with him. It's even possible, if they spent any time together at all in Mexico City, that Osborne took Oswald to the shop. The FBI could have had Osborne prosecuted for lying to them, but in its wisdom chose not to do so. Thus the only chance possibly to solve the mystery surrounding Osborne, by finding out why he was lying, was lost. Ron
Mark Wengler Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 I always thought that Osborn had intelligence connections. But i am thinking M.I 6 Also what has been found since 2000 on him any new info/
Thomas Graves Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 Ron, have you ever noticed that there is a similar address to Calle Niza 22 in some of the newer declassified documents? Robert, What is the Osborne connection to Calle Niza 22? It doesn't ring a bell. Ron Rev. Fred Allen Jr. stated that the last time he had heard from John Bowen was a postcard from San Antonio, and that the new address furnished by Bowen was Niza 22, Mexico D.F. That is CE 2195http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=145196 In the FBI's Oswald Mexico City File, Wells Fargo American Express employee Manuel Pineda identified three photographs of John Bowen as "a person who had received mail at that address over the last 2 or 3 years." At that point the address is listed as Calle Niza 22; The interview with Pineda was dated 1-21-64, and Pineda stated he had seen Bowen "about 2 weeks ago." http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/...bsPageId=742858 It's interesting that CE 2195 says that the Reverend Allen told the FBI in February of 1964 that he had "recently received" an airmail postcard from Bowen which was "postmarked 2/18/62 at San Antonio, Texas," advising Allen that he had changed his mailing address to Niza 22 in Mexico City. I wonder why it took two years for Allen to receive that postcard from San Antonio? --Tommy
Robert Howard Posted May 17, 2014 Posted May 17, 2014 My experience with some of these "WC interviews" is that there is often a perfidious element, of taking something simple, in this case...when was the last time Rev. Allen had heard from Albert Osborne and making some extemporaneous comment to make the issue even more confusing. Some people might accuse me of being overly suspicious...lol. But, as far as the big picture regarding Albert Osborne/John Bowen....read the following and tell me this isn't a glaring factoid that everyone missed..... 256. Commission Document 251 - FBI O'Flaherty Report of 02 Jan 1964; NEW YORK 12 pages re: Oswaldpage 1, INS Records on John Howard Bowen, and alleged departure from New York on 11/13/63, Progressive Youth Organizing Committee, American Nazi Party and SocialistParty, Social Democratic Federation all NYC contacted re subject and results set forth. Law Firm, NYC contacted re court appearance 1953 but advised no record re subject or subjects mother. On December 23, 1963, SIDNEY A. DAVIS, Assistant Chief, Records Administration and Information Section, Immigration and Naturalization Service, 23 West Broadway, New York City, advised SA WILLIAM F. MARTIN, that a review of airline and steamship records located at INS failed to disclose any identifiable information regarding JOHN HOWARD BOWEN and his alleged departure from New York on November 13, 1963. DAVIS stated however that INS files did reveal that on November 13, 1963 one GEORGE F. BOWEN Passport Number B584700, 18 Plymouth Road, Westfield, New Jersey, departed New York via Pan-American Airways (PAA) Flight 100 for London.On the same date, the files also disclosed that Charles H. BOWEN Passport # 11248841 58 Oakey Avenue, Lawrenceburg, Indiana, departed New York via PAA Flight 114 for Paris... Robert: I have always been disappointed that no-one ever wrote a book about Albert Osborne. The man was, in my mind even more enigmatic than DeMohrenschildt, because everyone has went over GDM with a fine tooth comb, whereas Albert Osborne remains quite the mystery, the more I go on, the more I will probably alienate myself from other Forum members, because I believe he is an integral part of deciphering the whole right-wing, Nazi type element in the assassination, which I submit has never been completely exhausted as far as research goes. I mean regarding Osborne, there is the "Syrian," whom no-one can research adequately because other than knowing there was a Syrian there isn't much else to go on...The there is the 10-year gap between Osborne's visits to England with the last visit overlapping with JFK's assassination.....I could go on and on..... Remember the right wing publication The Beam, located at Camp Bowie Boulevard? Bowen ostensibly had a son who had died during World War II, I believe I found his obit, but I am not sure. I do believe he really did have a son that died then though...Another angle is the International Bridge incident where the day of the assassination, a Army soldier named Delgado was at the International Bridge between Mexico and the United States while it was closed. According to WC Documents both Oswald and Osborne had passed through this area previously, the latter factoid seems rather like minutae, but again maybe it isn't.....
Thomas Graves Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) [...] [A]s far as the big picture regarding Albert Osborne/John Bowen....read the following and tell me this isn't a glaring factoid that everyone missed..... 256. Commission Document 251 - FBI O'Flaherty Report of 02 Jan 1964; NEW YORK 12 pages re: Oswald page 1, INS Records on John Howard Bowen, and alleged departure from New York on 11/13/63, Progressive Youth Organizing Committee, American Nazi Party and Socialist Party, Social Democratic Federation all NYC contacted re subject and results set forth. Law Firm, NYC contacted re court appearance 1953 but advised no record re subject or subjects mother. On December 23, 1963, SIDNEY A. DAVIS, Assistant Chief, Records Administration and Information Section, Immigration and Naturalization Service, 23 West Broadway, New York City, advised SA WILLIAM F. MARTIN, that a review of airline and steamship records located at INS failed to disclose any identifiable information regarding JOHN HOWARD BOWEN and his alleged departure from New York on November 13, 1963. DAVIS stated however that INS files did reveal that on November 13, 1963 one GEORGE F. BOWEN Passport Number B584700, 18 Plymouth Road, Westfield, New Jersey, departed New York via Pan-American Airways (PAA) Flight 100 for London. On the same date, the files also disclosed that Charles H. BOWEN Passport # 11248841 58 Oakey Avenue, Lawrenceburg, Indiana, departed New York via PAA Flight 114 for Paris... [...] [emphasis added by T. Graves] From the Westfield (N.J) Leader newspaper, Thursday June 12, 1980: "Brenda L. Bowen, formerly of 18 Plymouth Road, was awarded a B.A. degree at graduation ceremonies at Colby College in Maine May 25th. She was graduated cum laude with distinction in English. Miss Bowen was also chairperson of the Colby College Cultural Life Program and was cited for her directing and acting work in Colby's drama department. Miss Bowen attended Westfield schools before moving to London where she now resides with her parents." http://archive.wmlnj.org/TheWestfieldLeader/1980/1980-06-12/pg_0014.pdf And, according to whitepages.com, there's a Charles H. Bowen, Jr. , 45 to 49 years old, living in Lawrenceburg, Indiana: http://www.whitepages.com/name/Charles-H~Bowen/Indiana --Tommy Edited May 18, 2014 by Thomas Graves
Robert Howard Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) Great find Tommy! I will see if I can follow-up on this. On an unrelated note;I am sure some Forum members are more than slightly familiar with the kidnapping ofthe Lindbergh baby; ie Bruno Hauptmann.A few weeks ago, I was searching the net and noticed a handwriting expertnamed Albert Osborn testified at the trial, I may be wrong but when I comparedphotos of Albert Osborne/John Bowen with the handwriting expert, I thoughtthere was a similarity; I would be curious, to see if anyone else sharedmy opinion, or if I was mistaken. Again, thanks Tommy. I want to be clear, I am not saying I believe the two individuals are the same, but am suggesting a resemblance, ie the possibility they may be related to each other. The photo of Albert D. Osborn at the Bruno Hauptmann trial was taken, according to the website murderpedia, in January 1935, while the photo of John Bowen/Albert Osborne, was taken in 1950. I will not be offended if anyone states they don't see the resemblance... Just wanted another opinion....... Edited May 18, 2014 by Robert Howard
Mark Wengler Posted May 18, 2014 Posted May 18, 2014 They do look alike. Can you post larger photo's from the Bruno Hauptmann trial.
Robert Howard Posted May 19, 2014 Posted May 19, 2014 http://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/hauptmann-bruno-trial-1.htm The link above is where I found the photo of Albert D. Osborn.... His obituary is below. Chicago Tribune (IL) - December 16, 1946A.S. OSBORN DIES; LINDBERGH CASE WRITING EXPERTDeceased Name: Albert S. Osborn--Montclair, N.J., Dec. 15 (AP)-- Albert S. Osborn , 88, internationally known handwriting expert who testified in the Lindbergh kidnapmurder case in 1935, died yesterday at his home. He was a native of Sharon, Mich.Osborn testified that Bruno Hauptmann, later convicted and executed for the murder of Charles A. Lindbergh Jr., wrote 15 ransom notes sent to the baby's father, Col. Charles A. Lindbergh, and his emissaries.
David Andrews Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 Ron Ecker, is your Albert Osborne article available online at all? The links above are dead. THANKS
Tom Hume Posted November 27, 2017 Posted November 27, 2017 (edited) This might be what you're looking for, David. If not, it's a good read anyway. http://www.ronaldecker.com/osborne.html Edited November 27, 2017 by Tom Hume
Ron Ecker Posted November 28, 2017 Author Posted November 28, 2017 11 hours ago, Tom Hume said: This might be what you're looking for, David. If not, it's a good read anyway. http://www.ronaldecker.com/osborne.html Yes, thanks Tom, that's the current location of the article. However, I don't know how much longer that website will remain online. If anyone knows where the Osborne article and a few others of mine (e.g. The Tokyo Flight and Jack Ruby's Dog) might find a permanent home, please let me know. I had a free website at one time, but I placed my JFK articles on it and the account was summarily canceled. (I think what they really objected to was Greetings from Lee Harvey Oswald.)
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