Lee Forman Posted December 16, 2005 Share Posted December 16, 2005 What would be more interesting to me personally would be the result of a FOIA for records pertaining to Richard Case Nagell and the letter he allegedly wrote to Hoover in around August or September of 1963. Additionally, any records relative to Hoover's arrest in New Orleans in the 20's - and who would have known of this arrest, and who the young man may have been. After the incident Corcoran confided to Joseph Shimon, and to Washington lobbyist Henry Grunewald, what the "favor" had been. While he was at the Bureau, Corcoran said, Edgar used him to deal with a "problem." He said Edgar had been arrested in the late twenties in New Orleans, on sex charges involving a young man. Corcoran, who had by then left the FBI and had powerful contacts in Louisiana, said he had intervened to prevent a prosecution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Kaiser Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) G Gordon Liddy says he won't see the new movie Hoover, because some women said, "Hoover was a cross dresser," Liddy says it isn't true. Thoughts? http://live.radioamerica.org/loudwater/player.pl?name=ggl&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fggliddy%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2Fpts%2Fredirect.mp3%2Ffeeds.radioamerica.org%2Floudwater%2Fggl%2F000008674_000_000000006.mp3 Edited January 13, 2012 by Scott Kaiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 (edited) G Gordon Liddy says he won't see the new movie Hoover, because some women said, "Hoover was a cross dresser," Liddy says it isn't true. Thoughts? http://live.radioamerica.org/loudwater/player.pl?name=ggl&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fggliddy%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2Fpts%2Fredirect.mp3%2Ffeeds.radioamerica.org%2Floudwater%2Fggl%2F000008674_000_000000006.mp3 Scott, I remember seeing a photo of him dressed up in a woman's evening gown and wearing a wig and lipstick at a party. Looked pretty hot, actually, especially if you're into overweight society matrons who have a face like a bulldog. I've read that he and Clyde Tolson were inseparable. My dad told me that he once saw Hoover and Tolson together one summer at the horse races in Del Mar, California (about 15 miles north of Murchison's Hotel Del Charro in La Jolla). --Tommy Edited January 13, 2012 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Kaiser Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 G Gordon Liddy says he won't see the new movie Hoover, because some women said, "Hoover was a cross dresser," Liddy says it isn't true. Thoughts? http://live.radioamerica.org/loudwater/player.pl?name=ggl&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fggliddy%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2Fpts%2Fredirect.mp3%2Ffeeds.radioamerica.org%2Floudwater%2Fggl%2F000008674_000_000000006.mp3 Scott, I remember seeing a photo of him dressed up in a woman's evening gown and wearing a wig and lipstick at a party. Looked pretty hot, actually, especially if you're into overweight society matrons who have a face like a bulldog. I've read that he and Clyde Tolson were inseparable. My dad told me that he once saw Hoover and Tolson together one summer at the horse races in Del Mar, California (about 15 miles north of Murchison's Hotel Del Charro in La Jolla). --Tommy Thanks Tommy, think I'll go to Liddy and give him the bad news... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 G Gordon Liddy says he won't see the new movie Hoover, because some women said, "Hoover was a cross dresser," Liddy says it isn't true. Thoughts? http://live.radioamerica.org/loudwater/player.pl?name=ggl&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fggliddy%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2Fpts%2Fredirect.mp3%2Ffeeds.radioamerica.org%2Floudwater%2Fggl%2F000008674_000_000000006.mp3 Scott, I remember seeing a photo of him dressed up in a woman's evening gown and wearing a wig and lipstick at a party. Looked pretty hot, actually, especially if you're into overweight society matrons who have a face like a bulldog. I've read that he and Clyde Tolson were inseparable. My dad told me that he once saw Hoover and Tolson together one summer at the horse races in Del Mar, California (about 15 miles north of Murchison's Hotel Del Charro in La Jolla). --Tommy Thanks Tommy, think I'll go to Liddy and give him the bad news... Scott, Give G. Gordon a big wet kiss for me when you see him. Uhhh... No, don't do that! I WAS JUST KIDDING! --Tommy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Kaiser Posted January 13, 2012 Share Posted January 13, 2012 G Gordon Liddy says he won't see the new movie Hoover, because some women said, "Hoover was a cross dresser," Liddy says it isn't true. Thoughts? http://live.radioamerica.org/loudwater/player.pl?name=ggl&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fggliddy%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2Fpts%2Fredirect.mp3%2Ffeeds.radioamerica.org%2Floudwater%2Fggl%2F000008674_000_000000006.mp3 Scott, I remember seeing a photo of him dressed up in a woman's evening gown and wearing a wig and lipstick at a party. Looked pretty hot, actually, especially if you're into overweight society matrons who have a face like a bulldog. I've read that he and Clyde Tolson were inseparable. My dad told me that he once saw Hoover and Tolson together one summer at the horse races in Del Mar, California (about 15 miles north of Murchison's Hotel Del Charro in La Jolla). --Tommy Thanks Tommy, think I'll go to Liddy and give him the bad news... Scott, Give G. Gordon a big wet kiss for me when you see him. Uhhh... No, don't do that! I WAS JUST KIDDING! --Tommy Haha! Are you saying that the G man is a little tooty fruity too? He'd make a great commercial for I-Hop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) G Gordon Liddy says he won't see the new movie Hoover, because some women said, "Hoover was a cross dresser," Liddy says it isn't true. Thoughts? http://live.radioamerica.org/loudwater/player.pl?name=ggl&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fggliddy%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2Fpts%2Fredirect.mp3%2Ffeeds.radioamerica.org%2Floudwater%2Fggl%2F000008674_000_000000006.mp3 Scott, I remember seeing a photo of him dressed up in a woman's evening gown and wearing a wig and lipstick at a party. Looked pretty hot, actually, especially if you're into overweight society matrons who have a face like a bulldog. I've read that he and Clyde Tolson were inseparable. My dad told me that he once saw Hoover and Tolson together one summer at the horse races in Del Mar, California (about 15 miles north of Murchison's Hotel Del Charro in La Jolla). --Tommy Thanks Tommy, think I'll go to Liddy and give him the bad news... Scott, Give G. Gordon a big wet kiss for me when you see him. Uhhh... No, don't do that! I WAS JUST KIDDING! --Tommy Haha! Are you saying that the G man is a little tooty fruity too? He'd make a great commercial for I-Hop Sorry, Scott. I wouldn't know about G. Gordon, but I wouldn't be surprised. You see, that's not the kind of bar (or sauna) I go to. LOL Except when I was driving a taxi and my dispatcher sent me there! The first time it was a very weird feeling walking in and realizing that all eyes were "on" me! I guess that's when I first experienced Hemingway's concept of "grace under pressure" on a personal level, and somehow managed to summon up a very manly voice and ask the bartender, "Who the H__ called for a cab? Whoever it was, they've got twenty God____ seconds to get in it!" Longest d___ twenty seconds in my life! Got pretty good at it, actually, eventually... --Tommy Hey! I have an idea! Why don't you ask him? Edited January 14, 2012 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Robert Morrow Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 G Gordon Liddy says he won't see the new movie Hoover, because some women said, "Hoover was a cross dresser," Liddy says it isn't true. Thoughts? http://live.radioamerica.org/loudwater/player.pl?name=ggl&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fggliddy%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2Fpts%2Fredirect.mp3%2Ffeeds.radioamerica.org%2Floudwater%2Fggl%2F000008674_000_000000006.mp3 Anthony Summers was told by some lady that Hoover was a crossdresser at some parties she went to. I don't know. But I have no doubt Hoover was a homosexual and his little boyfriend was the #2 guy at the FBI Clyde Tolson. Lyndon Johnson was also bisexual - homosexual if you like - and that fact is not in the history books or MSM, but I have a very good source on that Ray Hill of Houston, TX - the #1 gay activist in Houston. Ray Hill worked at the Kinsey Institute and was able to read some of LBJ's sexual interviews. LBJ described rampant bisexuality as well as having sex with his grandmother. No kidding. These interviews with LBJ are not public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Kaiser Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) G Gordon Liddy says he won't see the new movie Hoover, because some women said, "Hoover was a cross dresser," Liddy says it isn't true. Thoughts? http://live.radioamerica.org/loudwater/player.pl?name=ggl&url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.blubrry.com%2Fggliddy%2Fwww.podtrac.com%2Fpts%2Fredirect.mp3%2Ffeeds.radioamerica.org%2Floudwater%2Fggl%2F000008674_000_000000006.mp3 Anthony Summers was told by some lady that Hoover was a crossdresser at some parties she went to. I don't know. But I have no doubt Hoover was a homosexual and his little boyfriend was the #2 guy at the FBI Clyde Tolson. Lyndon Johnson was also bisexual - homosexual if you like - and that fact is not in the history books or MSM, but I have a very good source on that Ray Hill of Houston, TX - the #1 gay activist in Houston. Ray Hill worked at the Kinsey Institute and was able to read some of LBJ's sexual interviews. LBJ described rampant bisexuality as well as having sex with his grandmother. No kidding. These interviews with LBJ are not public. I can see it now, LBJ giving a BJ to JEH saying "Read my Lips"! I did not have sex with Hoover! Yeah okay where did I hear that before? Edited January 14, 2012 by Scott Kaiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tom Scully Posted January 14, 2012 Share Posted January 14, 2012 ....... http://www.theconspiracy.us/vol6/cn6-47.html 'Conspiracy' was a word that was verboten. It was not to be heard on anybody's lips. The idea that Oswald had a confederate or was part of a group or a conspiracy was definitely enough to place a man's career in jeopardy." -- Anthony Summers, writing in the afterword (for paperback edition) of his book, *The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover* + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + *The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover* by Anthony Summers Author Summers, writing in the afterword of the paperback edition of his book, laments the fact that "Although this book is about issues far wider and more serious than Hoover's sexual preferences, it was the sex that preoccupied the media." This is the book known for revealing that long-time FBI director Hoover and his sidekick and second-in-command at the FBI, Clyde Tolson, were gay. Yet this book is much deeper than the stuff of mere daytime TV talk shows. True, it tells about such things as [Roy] Cohn ushered them into a suite to find Edgar, again attired in female finery. His clothing this time was even more outlandish. "He had a red dress on," Susan recalled, "and a black feather boa around his neck. He was dressed like an old flapper, like you see on old tintypes." ..... .............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) ....... http://www.theconspiracy.us/vol6/cn6-47.html 'Conspiracy' was a word that was verboten. It was not to be heard on anybody's lips. The idea that Oswald had a confederate or was part of a group or a conspiracy was definitely enough to place a man's career in jeopardy." -- Anthony Summers, writing in the afterword (for paperback edition) of his book, *The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover* + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + *The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover* by Anthony Summers Author Summers, writing in the afterword of the paperback edition of his book, laments the fact that "Although this book is about issues far wider and more serious than Hoover's sexual preferences, it was the sex that preoccupied the media." This is the book known for revealing that long-time FBI director Hoover and his sidekick and second-in-command at the FBI, Clyde Tolson, were gay. Yet this book is much deeper than the stuff of mere daytime TV talk shows. True, it tells about such things as [Roy] Cohn ushered them into a suite to find Edgar, again attired in female finery. His clothing this time was even more outlandish. "He had a red dress on," Susan recalled, "and a black feather boa around his neck. He was dressed like an old flapper, like you see on old tintypes." ..... .............. I've read that the Mafia took a photo of Hoover and Tolson engaged in sexual activity at mobbed-up Clint Murchison's Hotel Del Charro. It's interesting to note that Gordon Novel said James Jesus Angleton showed him a copy... An apparently anonymous Tripod website which references Anthony Summers on Hoover's sexual proclivities and how it was taken advantage of by the Mafia: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fYCmBxOBo00J:edgar-hoover.tripod.com/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us --Tommy Edited January 15, 2012 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Graves Posted January 15, 2012 Share Posted January 15, 2012 (edited) ....... http://www.theconspiracy.us/vol6/cn6-47.html 'Conspiracy' was a word that was verboten. It was not to be heard on anybody's lips. The idea that Oswald had a confederate or was part of a group or a conspiracy was definitely enough to place a man's career in jeopardy." -- Anthony Summers, writing in the afterword (for paperback edition) of his book, *The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover* + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + *The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover* by Anthony Summers Author Summers, writing in the afterword of the paperback edition of his book, laments the fact that "Although this book is about issues far wider and more serious than Hoover's sexual preferences, it was the sex that preoccupied the media." This is the book known for revealing that long-time FBI director Hoover and his sidekick and second-in-command at the FBI, Clyde Tolson, were gay. Yet this book is much deeper than the stuff of mere daytime TV talk shows. True, it tells about such things as [Roy] Cohn ushered them into a suite to find Edgar, again attired in female finery. His clothing this time was even more outlandish. "He had a red dress on," Susan recalled, "and a black feather boa around his neck. He was dressed like an old flapper, like you see on old tintypes." ..... .............. I've read that the Mafia took a photo of Hoover and Tolson engaged in sexual activity at mobbed-up Clint Murchison's Hotel Del Charro. It's interesting to note that Gordon Novel said James Jesus Angleton showed him a copy... An apparently anonymous Tripod website which has Anthony Summers writings on Hoover's sexual proclivities and how it was taken advantage of by the Mafia and (mobbed-up) Angleton of the CIA: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:fYCmBxOBo00J:edgar-hoover.tripod.com/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us --Tommy augmented and bumped Edited January 15, 2012 by Thomas Graves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Under-age lovers, transvestite tendencies and a porn stash - featuring Joan Crawford: New book exposes secret world of J. Edgar Hoover By Daniel Bates Daily Mail Last updated at 9:56 AM on 9th February, 2012 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2098423/J-Edgar-Hoover-New-book-exposes-secret-world-FBI-Director.html Former FBI director J. Edgar Hoover is the subject of a new book that details his porn habit and rumours that he was a closeted homosexual and transvestite J. Edgar Hoover assembled the largest collection of pornography in history to meet his insatiable sexual demands, according to a new biography. The former director of the FBI built up a vast stock of adult films made by Hollywood stars before they were famous which he watched for his own titillation - or to blackmail them. They included one starring a very young Frank Sinatra made in 1934 he shot when he was a penniless wannabe actor slumming it in New York. Hoover was also partial to ‘classically erotic lithographs’ depicting men with giant phalluses or full frontal nudes which he hung on his bathroom walls Among the book’s other revelations are that Hoover and one of his close friends both had sex with a male suspect caught by the FBI - before letting him go and making his case disappear. Hoover has long been the subject of speculation about his private life, in particular that he was a transvestite and enjoyed a gay relationship with his close friend and FBI associate director Clyde Tolson. Last year saw the release of the Clint Eastwood biopic ‘J. Edgar’ starring Leonard Di Caprio, although it avoided the question of whether he was even gay. The new book by contrast goes much further and delves into the most sordid details of the man who did more to shape the morality of America than any other person. In 'J. Edgar Hoover and Clyde Tolson: Investigating the Sexual Secrets of America's Most Famous Men and Women', author Darwin Porter writes that Hoover built up what was considered the biggest porn collection in history. The material was culled from FBI raids and taken by Hoover for his own personal enjoyment. It was especially controversial because at the time pornography was illegal. In an interview with MailOnline, Porter said: ‘Hoover was especially interested in collecting copies of ‘blue movies’ made by movie stars before they became famous, Joan Crawford being among the most famous instances of this. ‘Hoover was said to have obtained a pirated copy of The Masked Bandit: He Robs P****, a ‘blue movie’ made by a very young Frank Sinatra (the film’s ‘masked bandit’) in 1934. ‘Sinatra shot this movie when he was down and out on the streets of Manhattan. His parents had kicked him out of their house for not pursuing a regular job.’ Porter added that Hoover was ‘mostly interested in nudes of famous people’ and would not just look at any old porn. Of particular interest were frontal nudes of male celebrities including Tony Curtis, Burt Lancaster, a teenage Warren Beatty, Elvis Presley, Charlton Heston and James Dean. Porter said: ‘It was widely reported that the gun molls of gangster John Dillinger defined his endowment as ‘the eighth wonder of the world.’ ‘When Dillinger was slain by the FBI, Hoover ordered an agent to take a nude picture of him as his dead body lay on a marble slab in a mortuary.’ In Porter’s book, Hoover is portrayed as clamping down on the sexual behaviour of an entire country whilst at the same time allowing himself free reign to conduct himself as he pleased. In one episode in 1947 his friend Guy Hotell, a Special Agent in Charge of the FBI's Washington Field Office, brought in a 17-year-old suspected of robbery for questioning. Hotell had him released into his custody and flew him to a hotel in Miami where Hoover was on vacation and they both had sex with him before buying the teenager a plane ticket home and dropping the case. The book also details how in the 1930s Hoover used male prostitutes whilst on holiday in Havana at a notorious brothel known as 'Cocktail' whilst disguised in a fake moustache, hat pulled down and dark glasses so nobody would recognise him. In his later years Hoover also became obsessed with a bizarre that he could end WW2 by himself flying to Germany and arresting Hitler or gunning him down if he resisted. Hoover was the first director of the FBI and served for nearly 40 years until his death in 1972 at the age of 77. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2098423/J-Edgar-Hoover-New-book-exposes-secret-world-FBI-Director.html#ixzz1ltzL5RGF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hogan Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Under-age lovers, transvestite tendencies and a porn stash - featuring Joan Crawford: New book exposes secret world of J. Edgar Hoover By Daniel Bates Daily Mail Last updated at 9:56 AM on 9th February, 2012 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2098423/J-Edgar-Hoover-New-book-exposes-secret-world-FBI-Director.html The author, Darwin Porter, also co-wrote this classic: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1936003171/ref=rdr_ext_tmb From the publisher: The Kennedys: All the Gossip Unfit for Print No other book in the history of publishing has assembled in one volume 80 years of pansexual scandals associated with the Kennedys-all in one guilty pleasure of a sizzling book. Meticulously researched, it showcases the indiscretions and extramarital romps of America's most famous political clan. In addition to lesser known and often shocking scandals about Jack (Mr. President), other parts of this pioneering page-turner will be devoted to Bobby and Teddy, with extra space reserved for founding father Joseph P. Kennedy when he operated as a libidinous Hollywood mogul. Paparazzi cameras zoom in on that uber-goddess of all things glam, Jackie, documenting her many love affairs, which were matched only by America's Prince Charming, her son, John-John, a horny young man with a gleam in his eyes. The Kennedys is illustrated with hundreds of candid photographs. Most of the book is reproduced in Amazon's Look Inside feature. Darwin Porter was working for the Miami Herald about the time things were starting to heat up. From his Amazon biography: Darwin Porter (born 1937) is known as one of the writers of the Frommer's travel guides and a sensationalist Hollywood biographer known for books whose source material derives from transcription of oral dialogues from living witnesses of not-widely-publicized events and relationships in the entertainment industry. Porter was born in western North Carolina and grew up in Miami Beach, Florida. He attended the University of Miami and graduated in 1959. At the age of 20, he became an entertainment columnist for The Miami Herald, later being made bureau chief in Key West. He has written biographies of Merv Griffin, Michael Jackson, Steve McQueen, Humphrey Bogart, Marlon Brando, Howard Hughes, Katharine Hepburn, and Paul Newman, in many cases after their deaths. Most of these biographies have illuminated aspects of Hollywood history hitherto unknown to the general public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 that's not the kind of bar (or sauna) I go to. LOL Except when I was driving a taxi and my dispatcher sent me there! The first time it was a very weird feeling walking in and realizing that all eyes were "on" me! I guess that's when I first experienced Hemingway's concept of "grace under pressure" on a personal level, and somehow managed to summon up a very manly voice and ask the bartender, "Who the H__ called for a cab? Reminds me of the first time I went to Nashville. I checked into a cheap downtown hotel, then walked down the street to the nearest bar. I had no idea it was a gay bar, till I walked in and everybody in the place (it was pretty crowded) whistled at me. I didn't say anything, I just turned around and walked out, as if to say, "Wrong number." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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