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Just wanted to share somewhere. The first Allman Brothers song I ever remember hearing. Black and white, blurry. historical. Dicky Betts jamming with his friend and mentor Duane Allman on slide guitar shortly before Duane passed.

Those are two really good books Ron, especially Battling Wall Street. I think that is the best book on Kennedy's economic policies. The chapter there on the steel crisis is the best I ever saw. And I think this essay is in the other book of his The Kennedy Assassination Cover Up. Yes, I think its accurate to say that McCloy made that remark. At least I have seen it credited to him more than once. And I have to say he sure as heck followed through on it as anyone can tell from what he did with CBS in 1967. Which we tried to show in JFK Revisited. If you look at the line up, there were two Republicans from Congress, one from the senate and one from the House; there were two Democrats from congress, same parallel. You then had two exalted statesmen types in McCloy and Dulles, and then you had the Chief Justice who was a former prosecutor and was now such a hero to the liberal community for Brown vs Board and the Gideon case, which began the public defender standard. I think that is the cross section that LBJ was trying to effect. And I think LBJ understood that in those Ozzie and Harriet days, the media would make no objection to its superifciality.

Maybe a blurred microscope slide? Or something seen when taking mescaline, orange sunshine or Purple Haze, though with brighter colors and more detail.

In this scenario Castro would have been accused of starting it by whacking Kennedy. The Soviets got what they wanted out of Cuba when the US withdrew missiles from Turkey. Their response would have been diplomatic, railing against American imperialism at the UN. The US could have countered by citing the alleged Oswald meeting with Kostikov in Mexico City. No, the same principle would have been an attack on the USSR from the soil of an American ally. The US bombed the hell out of North Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia and there was never talk of nuclear confrontation over it. Why would Kennedy's advisers think the US didn't enjoy nuclear superiority in 1963? And surely Khrushchev wasn't crazy enough to initiate a nuclear exchange over a country that wasn't vital to USSR security.

Great article by Donald Gibson. Hard to believe it's nearly 30 years old. I've got Battling Wall Street and The Kennedy Assassination Cover-Up. All I've read by him is good. Not to digress but I've wondered for years about the selection and role of John J. McCloy. The "Chairman" of the East Coast Establishment. He (also?) said they were there to "settle the dust" if I remember right.

In 1969 Air Force General Joseph J. Cappucci told military friends Col. Bill Amos and Jan Amos that Lyndon Johnson killed JFK Bio on Cappucci - http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographies/Display/tabid/225/Article/107495/brigadier-general-joseph-j-cappucci.aspx On 11/21/2013 (the day before the 50th anniversary of the JFK assassination) in Dallas while standing in Dealey Plaza, I met an 84 year old Dallas woman named Jan Amos. Her husband was Col. Bill Amos and he was assigned to Air Force intelligence in the 1960's. In 1969, several months after Ted Kennedy-Chappaquidick incident, the topic of the Kennedys came up among her social group over drinks. Needless to say her social group of Air Force men and their wives pretty much hated the Kennedys. At this point Gen. Joseph J. Cappucci, a man very high up in Air Force counter-intelligence and a man who had a personal friendship with J. Edgar Hoover said that Lyndon Johnson had murdered John Kennedy. That was the first that Jan had heard that bit of blockbuster information. After the intimate party had broken up, probably from the Hilton in Rome, Italy, Col. Bill Amos told his wife Jan Amos "Jan, you are never to repeat a word that Gen. Capucci spoke." Gen. Cappucci had clearly indicted Lyndon Johnson for the JFK assassination and said that his close personal friend J. Edgar Hoover had confirmed this to him. Gen. Joseph J. Cappucci, the head of Air Force counterintelligence & a close friend of FBI J. Edgar Hoover, told Jan Amos and her husband Col. William Henry Amos, that Lyndon Johnson killed JFK. Cappucci was the direct superior to Col. William Henry Amos. Cappucci made these comments after a party at the Hilton Hotel in Rome in 1969. Go to the 6 minute mark of Robert Morrow’s July 31, 2014 interview with Jan Amos at her condominium in Dallas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CetTAKiGY1Y Gen. Joseph Cappucci was very close to FBI director J. Edgar Hoover who in turn was very close to Lyndon Johnson. Col. Bill Amos was the bright star working directly under Cappucci at that time, but he was an alcoholic and later had to leave the military. After Cappucci made these comments indicting LBJ for JFK’s murder, on the way home Col. William Henry Amos told his wife Jan Amos to never utter a word of what she had heard. A disgusted Cappucci said “No wonder Lyndon Johnson had JFK killed” and he said this after the topic of Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick had come up. Mary Jo Kopechne, a passenger of Sen. Ted Kennedy, had drowned at Chappaquiddick on July 18, 1969. Additionally, Jan Amos reveals that in 1964 President LBJ gave a direct order to the military to seize and destroy all copies of “A Texan Looks at Lyndon: A Study in Illegitimate Power” by J. Evetts Haley on military bases and commissaries nationwide. Col. Amos was given direct orders by his superiors to incinerate every single copy of this book which correctly implied that LBJ was murdering people to cover up the Billie Sol Estes LBJ-kickback scandal of the early 1960’s. Col. William Amos told his wife Jan that LBJ was the rudest and most uncouth bastard he had ever been around or worked for. Jan Amos later moved back to Dallas and worked in high end clothing retail where she became friends and a personal shopper for the wives of the social elite of Dallas. She knew the Murchison and Perot families and numerous prominent Dallas families.

Ron Bulman QUOTE In looking today I came across LBJ and JBC hounding JFK for a year to come to Texas to heal the rift between them and Yarborough. UNQUOTE None of that happened. Neither Lyndon Johnson (who hated JFK and Sen. Yarborough) nor Gov. John Connally were asking John Kennedy to come to Texas to heal a rift in the Democratic party. Both Connally and Ralph Yarborough denied this (sorry I can't footnote this I have read it somewhere). LBJ in April, 1963 announced JFK was coming to Texas and this was done to lure/force JFK into coming to Texas. And except for raising some money, JFK really did not want to go. And as for Dallas, that city was put on and taken off the agenda multiple times. As for John Connally insisting on the Trade Mart - nothing suspicious there because John Connally was not involved in the JFK assassination. The Trade Mart was the bright shining modern object of Dallas in 1963; it was a much showier, flashier place to show off to the world a presidential visit. The dumpy women's Pavilion on the Texas State Fair Grounds was very outdated. Connally merely wanted to put on a good show. It was Lyndon Johnson, not John Connally, who was ready to let the bullets start flying. LBJ did not want to heal a rift; he wanted to put a rift in JFK's head. The person who told me that the Trade Mart was the no-brainer place to have an event was former Dallas Times-Herald reporter Connie Kritzberg. Having the luncheon at the Women's Pavillion would be like having lunch in your arm pit.

Oh, I think Hoover figured out very quickly that the JFK assassination was a high level domestic coup d'etat. Otherwise he would not have gone gambling at the horse track on Saturday, Nov. 23, 1963. Remember Hoover was LBJ's neighbor from 1943 to 1961 and longtime blood brother. I think Hoover figured out a long time before summer of 1964 what had just happened and that LBJ was right in the mix of the JFK assassination. Hoover speaking to Billy Byars, Jr. at the Del Charro Hotel in the summer of 1964 from Official and Confidential: The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover by Anthony Summers: “If I told you what I really know, it would be very dangerous to this country. Our whole political system could be disrupted.” Anthony Summers: "I was there for one or two weeks," Byars recalled in 1988. "They would eat together, my father, Murchison, and Hoover, and the others. Hoover seemed to be in a very strange frame of mind. He was having a better relationship with Johnson, evidently, than he had with President Kennedy - by a long shot. His relationship with Bobby Kennedy had apparently almost driven him over the edge. He used to talk about that constantly, and once I had the chance to ask him directly about the assassination. I asked him, 'Do you think Lee Harvey Oswald did it?" And he stopped and he looked at me for quite a long time. Then he said, 'If I told you what I really know, it would be very dangerous to this country. Our whole political system could be disrupted.' That's all he said, and I could see he wasn't about to say any more. [The Secret Life of J. Edgar Hoover, Anthony Summers] Billy Byars, Jr. was born in 1936. In 1964 when he spoke with Hoover he would have been about age 28 https://www.boywiki.org/en/Billy_Byars,_Jr. QUOTE Summers shows through numerous details how very well the Byars, father and son, knew Hoover. The afternoon of President Kennedy's death, J. Edgar Hoover phoned three people: the Attorney General, the head of the Secret Service, and Billy Byars, Sr. [Summers, supra, p. 329] One statement by Billy Byars, Jr., is frequently repeated by conspiracy theorists. Byars related to Summers a conversation at the Del Charro during the summer of 1964 or 1965. "I asked him, 'Do you think Lee Harvey Oswald did it?' And he stopped and looked at me for quite a long time. Then he said, "If I told you what I really know, it would be very dangerous to this country. Our whole political system could be disrupted.' That's all he said, and I could see he wasn't going to say any more." [Summers, supra, p. 330]. Usually when this quote is cited online Byars, Jr. is described as "teenage", but he would have been in his late twenties. UNQUOTE

Yeah,go ahead and shut it down. No offense meant.

The #1 goal of the JFK assassination was to immediately stop the Kennedys' "destroy LBJ program" which was in high gear in November, 1963. Every other reason for the JFK assassination was secondary to that. LBJ top aide Horace Busby implies strongly that Lyndon Johnson was acutely aware by Nov. 4, 1963 that the Kennedys had sent a SWAT team of over **FORTY** national reporters to Texas to utterly destroy him https://robertmorrowpoliticalresearchblog.blogspot.com/2020/07/lyndon-johnson-was-acutely-aware-by-nov.html I wonder how LBJ would have reacted?

Lyndon Johnson did not want any national commission to so-called "investigate" the JFK assassination. He wanted to rig the investigation with a Texas Courty of Inquiry rigged by Texas Attorney General Waggoner Carr and Leon Jaworski and Robert Storey the head of SMU Law School. But when LBJ found out that it was politically unacceptable to do the rigging in Texas, he went along and rigged his Presidential Commission on the Assassination of JFK with his best friends Russell, Boggs, McCloy and other right wingers like Gerald Ford who would go along with the cover up. LBJ specifically picked Gerald Ford because of his CIA ties which you can heard on YouTube in the LBJ-Ford phone call. LBJ's only screw up was picking Sen. John Sherman Cooper, a liberal Republican senator from Kentucky who was close friends with JFK. Sen. Cooper believed in real time while he was on the Warren Commission that Lyndon Johnson had orchestrated the JFK assassination and was using the Warren Commission to cover up that heinous crime. The source for that is former RFK aide and former Sen. Cooper aide Morris Wolff who is alive in 2024 and who wrote that in his memoir.

And yes Joe B, that is correct I think. One of the objectives was to try and get an invasion of Cuba. I mean the DRE sure as heck was trying for that within 24 hours, were they not?

Hi Pete. This was discussed in a thread here on the forum in the last year or two. I'm frustrated I can't remember what thread or part of what I read or maybe posted in it (where I'd read what I may have posted). I spent about an hour looking through several of the books I have. The only detail I found is from Vince Palamara's Survivors Guilt. It states political advance man Gerry Bruno's itinerary on 11/7 says "unequivocally" at the Womens Building in Fair Park. This is followed by a statement from Connally that the site was still uncertain, The Secret Service had not cleared the matter on 11/8. That's two weeks before the assassination. In looking today I came across LBJ and JBC hounding JFK for a year to come to Texas to heal the rift between them and Yarborough. Speculation that the rift was created by LBJ and JBC to draw JFK to smooth it over. This from LBJ: Mastermind, which I tend to discount much of give its premise with which I disagree, though it has a few useful points. The part from the prior thread I can't remember or find the source of involved Connally, apparently sometime after 11/8, went ballistic, became "unbearable", threatened not to participate to a SSA, but I'm not sure which one. I do remember thinking LBJ, and in turn JBC had to have been told that the speech site had to be the Trademart. Were the told why? So the parade route would go by the TSBD? I'd think not. Or Connally would have refused to ride with JFK, or at least been ducking down in Dealy Plaza.

Indeed. Not pretty.

BTW, why would it be unusual for someone to read the IG report and come to the conclusion the CIA was in on the murder of Kennedy? I think many people who read it come to that conclusion because now a mechanism for assassination is revealed . A confederacy between the CIA, Mob and Cuban exiles. And we know, as Jim Douglass outlined so well, that after the Missile Crisis, the Cuban exiles were quite angry at the no invasion pledge Kennedy made. Plus Mongoose was disbanded and Kennedy had cut back significantly on raids into Cuba. In the entire second half of 1963 there had been only five. So what would it have taken to switch the target from Castro to JFK? And Oswald was perfect to provoke an invasion of Cuba. I am not saying that is what happened. What I am saying is that after reading the report, I can see how many could come to that conclusion.

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I don't recall ever saying that Tippit was killed at 1:17. I'd be upset about you lying about something I said if I actually thought you were lying. The reality is that you simply don't know what you're talking about at least half the time.

It could be that the Mexico City office did realize that there was no credible evidence that Oswald had been to the Cuban consulate, and that's why they didn't say so. Or it could be that somebody in MC knew what was going on but did not tell Winston Scott. Or it could be that Scott understood what was going on but that it was too sensitive to put into normal communications. I don't think that a firm conclusion can be made here as a basis for a Mexico City explanation.

I'm just seeing the images here for the first time. Are you saying that the "badge" is above the highest "box?"

If you have not read Gibson's milestone article, you really should. When he first submitted it to me, I was really surprised. Johnson, the master manipulator, was being royally rolled into doing something he did not want to do. If you have not read it, here it is: https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-creation-of-the-warren-commission And here is a story on Hoover's memo the night before Katzenbach's. https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/jfk-assassination-files/jfk-files-j-edgar-hoover-said-public-must-believe-lee-n814881

The Warren Commission was not Johnson's invention, that is not accurate. Johnson did not want a blue ribbon commission. He had to be convinced to do it by, first Eugene Rostow, and then Alsop. And Alsop then told him that the Washington Post was going to come out with that idea also. LBJ did not want it and Alsop's conversation with him was a masterful piece of flattery, persuasion, and massaging to get him to construct it. I mean, everyone knows what happened after. It was a mess. But what did anyone expect with Hoover running the inquiry? Hoover actually was on record as closing the case before Katzenbach was. In fact, I now think that his memo the night before might have been the model for Katzenbach's. About 80 per cent of the inquiry was done by Hoover. In second was the Secret Service, and as we all know--Elmer Moore for one--they were about as bad as the FBI was. Does anyone even want to talk about the CIA, and that stunt they pulled in Mexico CIty? Which even Hoover saw through after about six weeks. So with those three bodies doing the inquiry, it was pretty much a foregone conclusion. But then you had the MSM basically encouraging it and accepting it and then giving it a rocket boost when it came out. It is really bizarre to me how the MSM did not scream, or even object, to the WC having closed hearings. Not one peep. And the only witness who complained was Mark Lane. I mean closed hearings on the public execution of the president? As per Dulles, remember, Talbot in his biography of the man, revealed that he was the one commissioner who lobbied for the job. Therefore, it might not have been solely LBJ's decision on that one. But he clearly understand after that this was a mistake, and I think he tried to cover it up.

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Call it what you want Roger. But most people call the evidence that the WC created against Oswald phrases like "faked evidence, "forged evidence," etc. Because I disagree with you. I don't believe Johnson was an essential participant. Yes, I read it. And I criticized it and showed you how it falls apart under scrutiny. What unsupported claims? Almost everything I've said are either known facts, or are theories believed by a lot of people, including Jim D.

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