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Cliff Varnell

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    In the early 80's I helped weaponize rocknroll (see bio); in the early 90's I helped weaponize collectors' trading cards; since then I've been helping to weaponize the salient fact of conspiracy in the murder of JFK: the bullet holes in his clothes are too low to associate with his throat wound.

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  1. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    Sure there is. I can cite material by Josiah Thompson, Cyril Wecht, David Mantik, Pat Speer and John Hunt. Hold that thought -- I'll provide a proper inventory today or tomorrow. See above. I can quote all those guys. There it is again! The equivocation which permeates JFK research like some fk'n virus. No, it is not a matter of "opinion" or "probability" -- it is a matter of hard concrete FACT: The bullet hole in JFK's shirt is 4 inches below the bottom of his collar. He wore a tucked in custom-made dress shirt which did not elevate given his posture. "Again, in my opinion 1 + 1 = 2 seems completely probably accurate." The rule is to follow the hard evidence no matter where it goes. That so many "JFK assassination researchers" cannot follow the hard evidence is worthy of condemnation.
  2. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    My bad. Please don't let me be misunderstood. No, T3 Denial is not the hot topic at JFK Conferences. T3 Denial is the subtext of presentations by T3 denialists, not the context. Please review my original comment: T3 deniers are routinely given speaking slots at JFK conferences presented by other T3 deniers. T3 destroys the Single Bullet Theory and thus renders irrelevant Stu Wexler's discussion of the NAA or Jim DiEugenio/John Hunt's analysis of the provenance of the Magic Bullet. Or the acoustics evidence. Or the t&t hole in the windshield. Or blood splatters. Or the head wound/s... http://jfklancer.com/Dallas2014/speakers.html (quote on) Stu Wexler is a teacher of World History, AP Government at Hightstown High School, Hightstown, NJ. He has been a JFK assassination researcher for about fifteen years where he has focused on the issues connected to the chemical analysis of the ballistics material since 2000. Wexler has spoken on the subject at JFK Lancer’s NID twice, at the Wecht conference in 2003, and at the AARC conference in 2004, three of those times opposite Dr. Kenneth Rahn, NAA advocate, from the University of Rhode Island. Wexler has collaborated with chemist Tom Pinkston since approximately 2000 on the same subject matter. Wexler’s other Kennedy interests focus on Oswald, his background and associates leading up to November 22nd. His book, The Awful Grace of God, co-authored with Larry Hancock, on the MLK assassination was published in 2011. (quote off) (quote on) Patrick Speer began his studies on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in 2003. In 2007, The Mysterious Death of Number 35, a 4-part video series written by and featuring Speer, debuted on Youtube. Speer demonstrated that Dr. Michael Baden, the spokesman for the House Select Committee on Assassinations' Forensic Pathology Panel (the last government panel to study the Kennedy assassination medical evidence), was confused by the evidence and testified with a key autopsy photo upside down. It is Speer's contention that Baden was confused because the medical evidence, as interpreted by his panel, made little sense, and was at odds with articles and textbooks written by the very members of his panel. On his website, patspeer.com, Speer discusses the eyewitness evidence, the paraffin cast of Oswald's cheek, and the paper bag purportedly used by Oswald to transport his rifle into the building. Speer made an appearance at the 2009 COPA Conference in Dallas, and was the recipient of the JFK Lancer--Mary Ferrell New Frontier Award in 2012. (quote off) John Hunt was at Duquesne, it's in Ben Wecht's DVD. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/alt.assassination.jfk/john$20hunt$202003$20pittsburgh|sort:date/alt.assassination.jfk/hCMWG52Y_9w/bGvx6_sH42EJ
  3. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    The T3 back wound confirms the throat entrance wound, which conversely does not by itself confirm the T3 back wound. The following are the root facts of the murder of JFK: 1) JFK was shot in the back at T3; the round did not exit; there was no bullet found at the autopsy. 2) JFK was shot in the throat from the front; the bullet did not exit; no bullet was found during the autopsy. The central mystery of the JFK assassination is: What happened to the bullets which caused the back and throat wounds? When was the ;last time this central question was asked at a major JFK Conference? Has the question ever been asked at a major JFK Conference?
  4. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    Wecht 2003 and 2013. The presentations of John Hunt, Stu Wexler and Pat Speer. Cyril Wecht, David Mantik, and Tink Thompson put the back wound at T1 in spite of the irrefutable evidence to the contrary. Most researchers simply ignore the physical evidence -- more a crime of omission than commission. And thus "50 Reasons for 50 Years" ignoring the physical evidence entirely.
  5. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    No, it's not like that at all. I can prove the exhibit in Dallas is a fraud. If you want to claim that the exhibits at Dachau have been faked the burden of proof is on you, not me. I don't owe you anything. I stand by what I saw at Dachau and if you claim it's a fake the burden of proof is on you. Quite the opposite. T3 deniers are routinely given speaking slots at JFK conferences presented by other T3 deniers.
  6. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    The T3 back wound confirms the throat entrance wound whether we need it to, or not.
  7. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    What opinion? Are you denying that the bullet holes in JFK's clothing are four inches below the bottom of the collars? Are you denying that he maintained an elevated right arm throughout the motorcade? Are you denying that every time you raise your arm the fabric of your shirt indents along the shoulder-top? Are you denying the consensus witness statements placing the wound at T3? Are you denying the verified death certificate and verified autopsy face sheet placing the wound at T3? Are you denying that a normal amount of shirt collar is visible in the Elm St. photos? What is a matter of opinion?
  8. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    T3 denial and Holocaust denial are both ridiculous.
  9. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    Excellent work!
  10. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    Saundra Kay Spencer is on record as having developed the extant autopsy photos. One problem...in her 6/4/97 ARRB testimony she stated: <quote on> Q: Did you ever see any other photographic material related to the autopsy in addition to what you have already described? A: Just, you know, when they came out with some books and stuff later that showed autopsy pictures and stuff, and I assumed that they were done in—you know, down in Dallas or something, because they were not the ones that I had worked on. <quote off> So the woman on record as having developed the autopsy photos denies having developed them. Concerning autopsy protocol there's this: HSCA vol 7 <quote on> Among the JFK assassination materials in the National Archives is a series of negatives and prints of photographs taken during autopsy. The deficiencies of these photographs as scientific documentation of a forensic autopsy have been described elsewhere. Here it is sufficient to note that: 1. They are generally of rather poor photographic quality. 2. Some, particularly close-ups, were taken in such a manner that it is nearly impossible to anatomically orient the direction of view. 3. In many, scalar references are entirely lacking, or when present, were positioned in such a manner to make it difficult or impossible to obtain accurate measurements of critical features (such as the wound in the upper back) from anatomical landmarks. 4. None of the photographs contain information identifying the victim; such as his name, the autopsy case number, the date and place of the examination. In the main, these shortcomings bespeak of haste, inexperience and unfamiliarity with the understandably rigorous standards generally expected in photographs to be used as scientific evidence. In fact, under ordinary circumstances, the defense could raise some reasonable and, perhaps, sustainable objections to an attempt to introduce such poorly made and documented photographs as evidence in a murder trial. Furthermore, even the prosecution might have second thoughts about using certain of these photographs since they are more confusing than informative. Unfortunately, they are the only photographic record of the autopsy. <quote off> The autopsy photos are worthless.
  11. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    Yes, the existence of Dachau verified the Holocaust. I think you're in the wrong forum.
  12. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    I'm not going to debate the Holocaust with you.
  13. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    It's heartening to see T3 Back Wound Factualist Lawrence Schnapf play a leading role in the Oswald Mock Trial. http://capa-us.org/see-jfk-film-searchers-promote-oswald-mock-trial/
  14. What's Worse -- T3 Denial or Holocaust Denial?

    Excuse me? You can't even prove that's JFK in the photo! You don't know who developed the photo, you can't match the lower margin abrasion collar of the "wound" with a shot from above, and you can't get your shirt to move two inches in any direction given casual movement. It's impossible to get a bullet hole in a shirt 4 inches below the bottom of the collar to line up with what you think is a wound. No second shot. It "could" be JFK in that obviously doctored photo, in which case his back wound would be in that exact position since it matches the location of the defect in the shirt. All Gray did was illustrate what anyone can verify by imitating JFK's posture -- shirt fabric indents atop the shoulder-line when you raise your arm. I went around and around with Mr. Gray on that issue. Gaeton Fonzi established the salient fact of conspiracy when he confronted Arlen Specter with the clothing evidence back in 1966. He hasn't been given credit for such because so many self-aggrandizing hustlers want glory by "proving" conspiracy on the basis of inferior evidence.