François Carlier Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Joseph McBride said: François Carlier is one of those obvious disinformation specialists whose job is to disrupt a forum such as this by making ridiculously untrue statements that people feel compelled to answer, thus distracting us from more important topics. Ignore him (as I fail to do here). Mister McBride, I see you like insulting people. But I can also see a pattern : you always say the opposite of what is true. For example, when you say that I am a disinformation specialist, or when you say that Oswald did not kill Tippit. All we have to do is take your speech and reverse it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Santos Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 4 hours ago, François Carlier said: Mister McBride, I see you like insulting people. But I can also see a pattern : you always say the opposite of what is true. For example, when you say that I am a disinformation specialist, or when you say that Oswald did not kill Tippit. All we have to do is take your speech and reverse it ! From the guy who regularly insults people. What a laugh. Cheerios! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) Does Carlier have a theory of events other than the Warren Commission's? Edited December 11, 2018 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 Folks, Regarding the subject of General Smedley Butler and the alleged 1933 Wall Street "Business Plot" against FDR, (and Prescott Bush) I found a very well-written 2008 scholarly review article from Wesleyan University. https://wesscholar.wesleyan.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1058&context=etd_hon_theses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
François Carlier Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, David Andrews said: Does Carlier have a theory of events other than the Warren Commission's? Answer : nope Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Santos Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: Folks, Regarding the subject of General Smedley Butler and the alleged 1933 Wall Street "Business Plot" against FDR, (and Prescott Bush) I found a very well-written 2008 scholarly review article from Wesleyan University. https://wesscholar.wesleyan.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1058&context=etd_hon_theses I was aware of this story but never read in depth about it. Last week, I watched several documentaries on it. It is interesting, but I think in reading criticisms of Butler, really there was little evidence, other than his word. I am not discounting it. I am merely saying it is too bad FDR did not do more to make this public. I will look at your article. I have yet to see any clear link with Bush however. Perhaps the article will provide it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 17 minutes ago, François Carlier said: Answer : nope Why do you believe the WC, M. Carlier, when even De Gaulle suspected CIA-OAS and Dallas Police Department involvement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Cory Santos said: I was aware of this story but never read in depth about it. Last week, I watched several documentaries on it. It is interesting, but I think in reading criticisms of Butler, really there was little evidence, other than his word. I am not discounting it. I am merely saying it is too bad FDR did not do more to make this public. I will look at your article. I have yet to see any clear link with Bush however. Perhaps the article will provide it. Cory, The article explores the evidence from the McCormick-Dickstein Committee hearings, and the reporting on the subject during the next 75 years. In a nutshell, the evidence for an organized Wall Street coup d'etat involving Prescott Bush in 1933 is meager, indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted December 11, 2018 Share Posted December 11, 2018 2 hours ago, David Andrews said: Does Carlier have a theory of events other than the Warren Commission's? Why would he? The WC's version of events is, of course, the correct one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Oh really? Did they ever find out who was at Sylvia Odio's door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory Santos Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) I would like FC to respond too. Is Lee Bowers not telling the truth? Are the photos of a guy with a radio looking up at the grassy knoll while sitting on the curb forged? I suppose David Ferrie truly never knew LHO either right? The photo is a fake? Selective choice of evidence for some apparently. Heck, prove to me it was LHO please, so I can waste my time on something much more fun. I even watched the laser analysis video from 1998 and the ballistic testing video again, problem is there are problems with their "scientific" tests. I doubt they would be admissible in a court of law. Put bodies, in a car, going down Dealey, shoot out the window and prove it was the weapon and ammo found. Video it and lets see if the body behaves the same way as JFK did when he went to the back and his arm flings upwards and back. Even then you have not proven LHO did it! That requires actual evidence. Edited December 12, 2018 by Cory Santos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 54 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: Did they ever find out who was at Sylvia Odio's door? No, but that's got nothing to do with the evidence surrounding the question of "Who Shot JFK?". Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 LOL. Someone is impersonating Oswald either in Mexico City or in Dallas seven weeks before the assassination, placing him in compromising situations in both places and that has nothing to do with who shot Kennedy. This is why Davey is Davey. Did the WC ever hear about the Rose Cheramie affair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Cory Santos said: Is Lee Bowers a l-i-a-r? Lee Bowers is one of those witnesses who has been turned into a (supposedly) excellent "It Was A Conspiracy" witness by conspiracy authors, but he's really not much of a "conspiracy" witness at all. It's CTers (like Mark Lane) who want everyone to believe Bowers saw some killers on the Grassy Knoll. But Bowers never ever said any such thing. More.... http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2010/07/lee-bowers.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Von Pein Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: Someone is impersonating Oswald either in Mexico City or in Dallas seven weeks before the assassination... More sheer speculation by a conspiracy fantasist named James. But---that's why Jimmy is Jimmy. Edited December 12, 2018 by David Von Pein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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