David Josephs

I wish you wouldn't offer unsupported and repeatedly debunked conclusion as FACT... JVB has preyed on the need for info and closure with a good number of people falling for it. Not only falling for it but vehemently defending her right to be so obtuse with the evidence.... Everything she's offered to corroborate, doesn't. So why exactly and what exactly are you basing your conclusion on?

George... the important point I tried to make was that JVB was there in the room, knew when she and Anne met with and spent time with these men and fails to correct her, fails to have her say the timing was more like May-August 1963.... but she never does correct a thing... I would appreciate you not minimizing "the small stuff" George... like Mexico City, the Conspiracy is in the small stuff of the evidence... which I believe I've proven time and again. If that W-2 is not the W-2 everyone used on 1963... why would she put it up as evidence? JVB is not ignorant by a long stretch... Where would it have come from - the CIA as part of her cover... then why not use a standard form? All Clinton does is prove the relationship between Ferrie, Shaw and an Oswald... (this is where the repeated homosexual undertones can be found which also include Ruby... again, not that it makes a difference, it simply was yet another common bond between these 4 men) To address you questions: https://statick2k-5f2f.kxcdn.com/images/pdf/JudythBaker-DJ.pdf answers most your questions http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/ref/collection/po-arm/id/31493 Armstrong notebook includes McGehee's HSCA interview as well as Henry Earl Palmer (Note: despite the many attacks, I hope everyone realizes the contribution John Armstrong and his notebooks/10 years of research/10 years of visits to NARA affords us... if you can't find it, it more than likely is in these notebooks.... ) The HSCA deposed Edwin McGehee on 1/19/78, owner of the barber shop in question... They say he said: 1. A woman in an old battered car had driven up about the same time as Oswald arrived... 2. The woman was driving the car 3. The woman MAY have been going to the "washeteria" next door 4. He did NOT see Oswald getting out of that car 5. He referred Oswald to Morgan 6. A big black car pulled away shortly after Oswald left

1963. Not to put too fine a point on it... the talk of using a very small, directed nuclear device to take down the twin towers and turn all the water in the concrete to stream, in turn changing concrete into dust... hinges on the US Govt having weapons that are years ahead of their "public" time. I think we saw the use of a few of them back then... but don't want to get into a discussion here about that.... for that rocket to be nuclear capable in '63 there must have been advancements in miniaturization of the nuclear war head - again, years ahead of world knowledge. Just a thought... thanks for picking up the tangent Steve...

Anyone notice the "Call Girls Burning Issue In Congress"? Bobby Baker and Billy Sol Estes?

From the work Jim D and I did... initially I started a paper on JVB based on the W-2 that Fetzer posted on his blog and that which she considers proof... turns out that the REILLY COFFEE W-2 is not only the COPY B which is sent with the tax return but it's also in a layout that did not exist in either Federal or State forms The NAME is always below the income figures... ALWAYS. As we see with JVB's other W-2 for 1963 on the correct COPY C. She then claimed it was a STATE form... as you can see, it was not. So this CIA front was using forms for taxes which did not exist in the mainstream... and we have amazing trouble getting the tax returns for Oswald... While JVB is sitting behind her, she not once, but twice - and after a break in the filming - claims to have met Lee Oswald between Jan and April 1962.... Even if this was 1963... he doesn't show up in New Orleans until April 24th.... and then the entire JVB apartment eviction, go live with Lee On May 4th,the day Baker claims to have reached out to Oswald in the middle of the night, Oswald was staying with Lee's aunt Lillian Murret at 757 French Street and had been there a couple days before he finds a place thru Myrtle Evans... 4907 Magazine. Yet the information does not offer what happened next... WHERE did JVB stay for it surely wasn't at Lillian's... ???? "on May 4, 1963 Baker turned to Oswald after she was evicted in the middle of the night due to a police raid from her rented room." Baker documented how cover jobs were arranged for herself and Oswald, where they spent approximately half their time. Though she was a slow typist, Baker said arrangements were made to hire her as a secretary for former FBI agent William I. Monaghan, Wm. B. Reily Coffee Company’s Vice President of Security, Finance and Field Sales. After moving into nearby apartments the same week, Baker and Oswald rode the same bus to and from work together the next eleven weeks. Both Baker and Oswald began their employment on the same day, at a (then) small subsidiary company, Standard Coffee, owned by Reily, where their background reports were laundered and Baker was taught how to handle the Vice President’s secretarial duties. A week later, the two new employees were transferred together to Reily’s main company. ====================== Simply question... why didn't JVB correct Anne so that Anne could correct her statement? ==================== In early January 2000, Debra Conway (owner and co-founder of JFK Lancer) volunteered to video-tape Anna Lewis in New Orleans. In the videotape, Anna said that she and her husband David Lewis had socialized frequently with Judy Baker and Lee Oswald in New Orleans in the Summer of 1963, including a visit to The Five Hundred Club, where they met with Carlos Marcello. Anna stressed that she thought Judy and Lee were lovers at that time. Anna's filmed testimony was witnessed by Anna's daughter Sondra, Dr. Joseph Riehl, Dr. Howard Platzman, historian Martin Shackelford, Judyth Baker, and Debra Conway who asked Anna questions as she filmed her. First hand corroboration of the relationship could go a long way in proving the story being told. If others, like her then husband David, Carols or anyone else who may have seen them could add corroboration – better yet. So, Mrs. Anna Lewis is asked when she meets Lee Harvey Oswald: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyN37x3OfHs At 1:45 in - "In about Feb 1962, I met Lee Harvey Oswald in the Park" (by Guy Bannister's place at 544 Camp where she went for a date with her husband to be David Lewis, a friend of Jack Martin who was pistol whipped by Bannister (Jack Lemmon and Ed Asner from Oliver Stone’s JFK). To somewhat set the stage, Mrs. Lewis is the wife to be of one of Guy Bannister’s associates. One can read between the lines and hope that someone so close to these characters would indeed corroborate Judyth’s story. One of the ironic side effects of this video is the reconfirmation of the relationship between an Oswald in New Orleans in Feb 1962 and Guy Bannister while an Oswald is in Minsk. Yes – in February 1962 Lee Harvey Oswald is with Marina in the Soviet Union. In fact, June Oswald is born on February 15, 1962 in a hospital in Minsk

Thanks for the compliment George.... Judy wasn't supposedly creating a CANCER drug to use again CASTRO while in and around CIA safe houses and personnel? I think you underestimate what Oschner and gang wanted and how they went about getting it... Correct me if I'm wrong --- there were MANY leads about Oswald after the shooting... people from all over the country claimed to have seen the man... You don't think that is this person took a bus every day and met the same lady at the3 same stop every day... you wouldn't notice? And as we both know, this is one of quite a few conflicts with her story... I guess the point is, like Greer shooting JFK... the JVB involvement is legend, not fact.

Yes of course I'm aware of it... I found most of it... Oswald was not in Mexico so no, that evidence is part of the CIA charade....

1032 Marengo was the address if I remember correctly.... Two spies who are not supposed to know one another take the same bus and sit together most every day... Careless? There isn't a bus driver or a passenger who corroborates these daily meetings.... I wrote an essay on the topic with the help of Jim DiG.... https://statick2k-5f2f.kxcdn.com/images/pdf/JudythBaker-DJ.pdf

It's not that there is no evidence of the road trip Sandy... it's that the evidence of the road trip is not authentic... it doesn't work and conflicts itself. As you state, the PLAN initially is to implicate Castro to either successfully invade Cuba or curtail the investigation into Mexico and the connections. We have detailed information about virtually everyone who passed thru Mexico during that time, except Oswald... As poor as the "Mexican records" are supposed to be, they had no problem pointing out scores of witnesses to OSWALD... only to be found out for the frauds they were after the fact. As for the car trip with or without others.... if we do not agree that our Oswald was in Dallas at the Odio's... we should stop here. His traveling with these men and doing what Odio said they were doing is exactly in line with what an FBI infiltration asset would be doing... but after the 22nd it sure looks bad for the FBI that their asset was so involved with these anti-JFK factions. Finally, akin to there not being ANY records of Oswald ordering/receiving/using the rifle at the time it occurs - only after 11/22; there is nothing related to Oswald in the reports and summaries of the time period. One may expect to see mention of an American talking to KOSTIKOV in a summary report of activity for Sept 1963 ?? But there isn't any... and this repeats over and over in this case... after the fact evidence does not jive with the events and records of the time period.. Here are over 20 FBI agents and FBI assets at the Gobernacion (where the evidence finally comes from) stating no trace of Oswald DOUBLE AGENTS LITAMIL-7 & 9 are repeated asked about Oswald... neither says he was there. Nor would there be any reason for him to be there in the first place... He did not need to go to CUBA to get to USSR... He did not need to go to Mexico for any reason at all... it was planned most likely by Phillips... which appears to be why the LITAMIL evidence had not been seen... We are also to remember that despite DURAN's discussion about the 27th, the records don't get into calls until the 28th since they knew the 27th was not Oswald....

Unless you were in some type of military/cia program to get into Russia and report back.... and knew people in Helsinki.. I had just found it in the new release.... so yes, very new to me as well. (note: maybe if you let it slip you know Jared and Ivanka they'll speed it up for ya!)

This is a nice well-rounded summary of LHO's life, Paul. Thanks for posting it. Great... Blind leading the blind... Now Oswald, "tricked" his way into Russia? So the documents showing the CIA investigating and finding no visa requests or visa applications for Oswald in and out of Finland/Sweden would lead me to believe either one of you can explain how he got his documentation other than from the SOVIETS or some pre-arranged process... For every one thing PT claims to be true he creates 10 other things which conflict with his own conclusions... which are promptly forgotten about as he moves on... This is the same process that brings you to accept Marina for the truth-teller she was....?

That is simply not what the evidence bears out... What I've been trying to say from the start is if ANYONE wanted to leave breadcrumbs for a simple Oswald trip to Mexico City... it was easily done with a 4 part ticket from New Orleans... that did not happen. At every checkpoint along the way the EVIDENCE painstakingly shoe horns Oswald into some strange process to get him from point A to B. It is becoming apparent to me that not only was an Oswald not on any of these buses... no car, train or plane either. Basically every single day from 11/23 on the evidence for the trip morphs and accommodates the places we are sure Oswald popped up... ---------- One of the most secret of assets (despite Luis ECHEVARRIA also being an asset within the Gobernacion) provides every item of Mexican evidence to the FBI after many of them are secured by "Presidential staff" within hours of the assassination. This "staff" goes immediately to the 4 bus lines and "borrows" the manifests and paperwork for Sept 26 - Oct 3.... In this FBI asset's hands is the Oswald tourist card, altered FM-11, Hotel Registry, Frontera manifest that BOSCH altered, manifest for delo Norte, ANAHUAC and Flecha Rojas.... I have yet to find his name in the NEW RELEASE... but I will de writing about him and what he perpetrated for the FBI... Column 16 is the notes section... the image I have of it does not yet have the comments... Worse yet is HARVEY CASH of the State Dept who sends off info on the 23rd of Nov seems to be aware of every aspect of the evidence as dictated by the FM-11 - which, as I just mentioned, was "altered" for clarity and assistance by our FBI asset... At this point Sandy - it's very hard to attach the evidence offered to a real person... there is NO United States EVIDENCE of this trip... yet they were able to find virtually every other person who traveled in and out of Mexico those days... except Oswald...

Good enough for you and your limited curiosity and lack of comprehension... No judgment, just wondering why you bother posting on these threads when you have nothing to say but, "I see it, why can't you?" newsflash buddy - that statement says and means nothing... I fully accept your limitations here Mike, take heed knowing you know you're right and don't need to discuss this with anyone... I prefer to work with Chris, Healy, Ford, and a host of others who show intellectual curiosity and the drive to dig deeper and share their results... You seem only to want to stand on your soap box, proclaim how easy every aspect of the conspiracy is to you and wonder aloud why everyone else chases their tail... Your opinion, like so many others, is only idle talk without support... incredulous amazement at the ability of others to have productive conversation about topics you still fail to understand... But hey Mike, you keep posting and showing everyone how simple all this really is... in your humble opinions

Mike... are you trying to say "because I, Mike Walton cannot figure out how something was done, it must NOT have been done" for that sure seems like what you repeat with every post.... I never said the Zfilm film was FAKED. (But you will have a tough time explaining how Muchmore filmed her scene while running back to her office.) We've said they were altered to remove things that needed removing. We've theorized that the film may have been taken at 48fps thereby allowing for this alteration. You honestly think the CIA/SS/NPIC/FBI could not sync up 3 films... which were then locked away for 13 years and not seen by anyone? Who had the films and when, Mike? Who saw the films and when, Mike? Can you give us the Chain of Custody for the films, Mike? Only 3 of them to be concerned with Mike: Nix, Muchmore, Zfilm Muchmore says this: IOW, she stopped filming... amazing how clear and perfect her images of the shot was in any case... And here is NIX at the moment the first 3 surveys claimed a shot was fired... at station 4+96... Does that look like a shot to you...yet the FBI/SS used this film to help determine the placement of the shots...

No Mr. Cross... was addressing Mr. Walton and his inability to tell a crack in the sidewalk from his.....

You mean the one on the far side of the moon built by the Russians with help from aliens? Personally, I think more is accomplished by spreading disinformation than by trying to steal info... seems the info was more freely given by those wanting to balance the power DJ

LOL As you mention, despite getting into space first, you make an excuse for them still needing our TECH... Think of it this way... the Russians were no were near as powerful as the USA... but they gave the West the impression they were. The space race was always about intercontinental missiles... the US couldn't care about the moon (other than getting there first)... they needed to deliver nukes without pilots... so the space race. In most aspects I see the Soviets sowing discord by having us spend so much time chasing false stories. Golitsyn claims that Perestroika was designed to lull the West to sleep about the giant to the east.... that they were for peace, the KBG was in tatters and they were nothing to concerns ourselves over... Same thing today... the result of Russian election and social media interference is the greatest polarity we've seen in quite a while... while we're fighting and policing ourselves for spies in our midst, we are missing some of the bigger picture concerns... The USA knows nothing of Sun Tzu. We project power regardless, so our enemies prepare. We tell them where we are, we tell them what we're doing. The double edge sword of an open society... easier to infiltrate, easier to hide within.... Besides... without the technical know-how, how would they know if what they stole was not CI from us?

While I agree with what you post I have to ask if you've considered the overriding purpose of Soviet CI - disinformation. Of course they wanted to catch up with the technology... no doubt... but like today, I firmly see the effort focused on getting the Western world to believe things about the Soviets when the opposite was true... Steve - what are your thoughts about Golitsyn and his message? Sun Tzu... 18. All warfare is based on deception. 19. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. 20. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him. 21. If he is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. 22. If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. 23. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. 24. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected. 25. These military devices, leading to victory, must not be divulged beforehand.

{sigh} Let's see... maybe the limo coming to a stop or severely slowing as the shots are coming made the SS look extremely bad Maybe what appears to be multiple shots hitting JFK within an impossible time frame (where a MC rifle could not possibly re-fire) are reduced to 1. Maybe that wide turn onto Elm also made the SS look absurd... additionally, there was a shot or more at the top of Elm... removing that keeps Oswald in the window. Hill reaches the limo in 2.5 steps... they were both claimed to be going 11mph How fast must Hill run to catch the limo in the time allowed? If there were more frames and more time... or if the limo was actually moving at less than 3mph, Hill can make the run and reach the limo... Bottom line Mike... YOU not understanding why something was done is truly not the end of the conversation for the rest of us... YOUR conclusions and the manner in which you reach them is laughable... "Here, go here... read this..." he says.... as long as you don't ask Mike any questions about the work of others, he's fine... How about some common sense Mike? Everything within the JFK evidence is duplicitous... Every film and photo was confiscated asap... Except Zapruder. His film was kid gloves from the start... Could NIX sell his film to LIFE? Muchmore? not so much. Muchmore claims she did not film the shoots. Nix's film original is gone. Bronson is only so good. Towner and Zapruder conflict with each other Hughes cuts off Bell misses it Mr. LIEBELER - Now, Mr. Zapruder, after you had the film developed I understand Mr. Sorrels from the Secret Service came over and helped you get the films developed and you gave two copies of your films to Mr. Sorrels, is that correct?Mr. ZAPRUDER - Yes. One we have sent to Washington the same night and one went over for the viewers of the FBI on Ervay Street. Mr. ZAPRUDER - The Secret Service--I brought one roll there and they told me to dispatch it by Army plane or I don't know what they had done with it but it was supposed to have gone to Washington and one of them, I believe, remained here with Mr. Sorrels. He came to my office quite a few times to show them to different people. Now Mike, if there is proof that Zapruder gave up his ORIGINAL film to the FBI/SS much earlier than thought (before LIFE), kinda puts a kink in the timeline, no? And here is your proof... "The BUREAU was furnished a copy by Zapruder" Show us any evidence the CIA was given a copy Friday night... and then tell us why these things are not important to the authenticity of the Zfilm...

Mr Cross... definitely a mountain more than whiny child who can't wait to come on the forum to deliver a few of his "GOTCHA" moments... must help him make it thru the day. You wrote: https://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/ Just go here. Instead of creating something from a new technology, go to the above. Download all of the frames of the UNALTERED film there. which is simply a link to Costella's frames... where within this link is it mentioned they are UNALTERED? Have you ever spoken/written to John about these frames... ?? And how again would the finished product of the alteration, taken frame by frame, show it was UNALTERED ??? Answer: it doesn't. the frames, as John intended, shows conclusively that frames were removed, that movement is too fast for reality, that there was a splice rather than a start/start at 132/133, that there is a film break at z156/7 and again from 207 to 212. And then again at 340... and once more at 349/350 You see Mike, whenever there is BLACK in the sprocket area the film was replaced by film from one of the "copies" which didn't have the edge printing. there are from 4 to as many as 7 splices/breaks in the "UNALTERED" film you refer to... and that's before anything of significance was done... There is so much you simply do not know or care to know that it's become a chore trying to get you caught up. Isn't there a thread here for which you DO have something to offer and can spend time annoying people over there for a while ? My G~d you're a PITA

you get get no respect mike, cause you’re a whiny little child. Annoying, uninteresting and uninterested. tooting ones own horn is the least likely way to get any respect as well you produced something.... ? Why don’t you have the self control to allow others to do their thing without your obtuse comments? incredulous stupidity, although masterfully attained, is probably not what you want to be remembered here for, right? Earn some respect mike. Pointing to another’s body of work and posting, “see, I already have my answer” is childish. Maybe a bit less obsession over what I’m doing and some time reflecting on your presence here... Bring something to the table already mister Dangerfield....

Seems you have combined both PANNING and LATERAL MOVEMENT/SHIFTING.... Panning is when the camera is moved around a single point... none of the examples above are PANNING... On the other hand, what you do show is LATERAL MOVEMENT... as if Zapruder were running along with the limo.. in that case the changes you describe will occur. In Blue, when the camera is PANNED, the same object simply moves across the field of view so the line of sight to all the objects remains the same, they simply appear in different parts of the photo... In Black, when you SHIFT the lens the LOS changes and we should see changes with the shadows With regards to the limo slowing and/or stopping.... if you have the Quicktime version of the zfilm you can run it backward, clearly. If you do so you will notice the point around 303 where the limo is barely moving... coming down the street it is much harder to tell than when run backward due to the acceleration afterward... http://www.jfkhistory.com/Quicktimevideos.html hopefully this works... not even sure QT is around anymore... Hope this helps a little DJ

btw - I have the greatest respect for Jeff and his work... he's done some great things and brings understanding a few steps closer There have been a number of film experts who have chimed in on the process... When anyone assumes the evidence offered in this case is authentic, I have to pause. People lied that entire weekend for a variety of reasons. To assume that any one piece of this fiasco created authentic evidence against Oswald is to be amazingly naïve. Look carefully for anything related to what was seen on that film that weekend... the info is extremely limited and extremely vague... for one of the most amazing films of the century. Until someone offers a reasonable location for the ROWLEY FILM which was in DC that night... the FILM topic can never be settled... Anyone involved in this aspect of the case should want to know the same thing... an 8mm version of the film with Zapruder's personal scenes intact arrives on Rowley's desk by 1am Sat morning the 23rd.... that is the last we hear of this film until Dino gets one Sat night at NPIC... over 20 hours where a Zapruder film is unaccounted for... I know you Mike have nothing to offer about it... not that your input adds to much... But if Jeff or our timeline guru Scally - who I've talked to about this already - can find the film and/or even tell us which copy/master it was.. it would be a start

We need neither your permission nor your blessings Mike... In fact, your understanding is the least of our concerns... everyone else doing the work you can comprehend... This was never us knowing more than anyone... this has always been you incredulously whining about things you don't understand... and getting testy when we get tired of your inability to do the littlest bit of work... to ask a question with the intent of learning rather than trying to show off your big brain and challenge that which, once again, you so sorely lack in understanding... IOW... STFU and listen for while... maybe something will seep in... Here's another thought... get up to speed on the topic BEFORE you insert foot into mouth... Then maybe you wouldn't be seen as the tool you make yourself out to be every time you post on these Zapruder/Math thread XOXOX