Dawn Meredith

I am concerned about Trine Day. Anyone who can blindly support Judyth is not living in the real world imo... But they put out a lot of other very important books. And I am sure Kris simply believes Judyth. We used to. (Long ago.)

Now he's "graduated" to the Paul is dead insanity, no one died anywhere (sandy Hook, Boston etc.) Anyone who takes him seriously- and many on facebook do- is doing so at their own peril.

I have an idea folks: Why doesn't everyone here simply ignore DVP and post around him. Arguing with professional lone nutters is a total waste of time. But then that's the idea.

Doug: Do you mean when he refers to God? That is how I have seen this case since the first day. No one else I knew believed it was conspiracy and in the weeks that followed I had what I call "conversations with God". About the assassination and the assassins. The other responses are good, as well.

The work done by David Josephs has put the final nail in her coffin. She even lied about working with LHO. So now it's back to death treats, eh? True desperation. I am a huge fan of Trine Day but Chris seems to be easily conned by Baker. Doug (Caddy) I clicked on the link to read what Parker said about Trine day needing to be closed down and it only took me to his forum, not the post to which you referred. I could not disagree more. But I have little respect for Parker. (And know he has even less for me). So am not surprised by his voice for censorship. After all he is the only one who has the truth. Right? Happy Thanksgiving to all here in the US. Dawn

I just received word from Rachel Rendish that Jimmy Ferrell died yesterday. Cause is not yet known. RIP to a guy who told the truth about his (evil) mother. Dawn

Thanks Harry. We will not ever forget.

Ya, but did the sob actually READ the book? Is he ready to stop lying about the assassination of JFK, on which he built his career? I will take him seriously when that happens, but not holding my breath. "Truth" indeed.

Please, now magic 3-D. It's not LHO, period. This is JFK assassination101.

John: I agree with you 100%. I see some calling the Kennedy family cowards ( and worse) for not pushing for the truth. How many in this family do they wish to see murdered? One person has even gone so far as to post that they are co-conspirators. But then this person called me a co-conspirator too so I put little stock in what this person posts.

Fetzer also pushes the notion that there were no killings at Sandy Hook and other mass shootings since then. That all the dead and family are "crises actors". He is either mentally deranged or is a disinformation agent. Either way he is to be ignored. Barrett has done good work on 9/11 I think. Dawn

Where's the attachment. Much appreciated. Dawn

Boris Kachka, who created the "list" had this to say (which makes me think he didn't really read them but I guess it's hard to read eight new books a month and have time to comprehend them as well): He either did not read Brothers or is out and out lying.

Of course not. I only said that segment was powerful. I hardly believe this was a low level operation. The killers are so much in the shadows we will never know who they are. I don't even try to guess. I have always focused on why it was done.

My friend J Harrison was the person who told Nigel Turner about this guy. That segment of TMWKK was very powerful in my opinion.

I remember the reports of Doctors Clark and Perry that first day. It was one of the many reasons I knew that day that it was a conspiracy.

Wow, this is becoming downright scary. I have a lot of respect for Kris and Trine Day but Judyth's bs is going off the charts. Her 4th book will be about her intimate relationship with Clay Shaw, no doubt. Then she can follow that up with a 5th best seller about how close she was to Arlen Specter. They were all in NO after all, so ...it's a natural. Not laughing. Dawn

"Lincoln Lawrence" "Were We Controlled?" beat him to it by many decades. Bullxxxx for sure. Dawn

Very informative post Steven. Thank you. Dawn

More likely: "Every now and then a man on a white horse rides by, and we appoint him to be our personal god for the duration. For some men it was a Senator McCarthy, for others it was a General Walker, and now it's a General Scott." Exactly what I was thinking. I remember hearing ads for this film on the radio a few months after the assassination and I knew it was "about" the Kennedy assassination. If only...we had that ending. I have the book and the dvd. Great film to watch along with JFK. Happy ending vs the truth.

OMG please. She lost me at saying the shot came out the back to the front and "JFK" saying "I can't believe my own Secret Service shot me". Fake fake fake. While I do belie that some people are legitimately psychic and I have had several experiences myself that defy explanation, I don't trust this gal for a second. Dawn.

Don: Exactly my problem too, regarding Bernie. I like almost everything else about him but foreign policy is too important.

Dawn the only reason I raise that point is to counter the accusation that we have to read the entire book before we can make a judgement. When JVB used to come on here she tried to sell her story. It was and is utter nonsense. You too may think it's nonsense. And you would have enough information from the author's own words to form your own judgement. You could ask her questions on points you find difficult to accept. If her story is true it will hold up against criticism and more and more people would be inspired to want to buy and read it. Or, as happened, the points raised will be so pertinent and so difficult to answer with any credibility that eventually her promotion of it will reveal major flaws when thoroughly questioned. Would it be fair of her to demand that everyone reads the FULL book before making a judgement, even after she had failed to convince no more than half dozen converts? I've asked this a few times now: what new information are we going to find in the book that hasn't been shown to us by H&L supporters on this forum or on your own H&L site? Ok Dawn, fair do's, it was a few years ago now that you mentioned you hadn't fully read H&L, and it's a bit childish of me to keep going on about it. My apologies. Thank you Bernie and apology accepted. Your Baker analogy is interesting but not a true analogy. JA did 12 years of first hand research, and I don't mean just looking at documents, though he also did tons of that. He tracked things, places and people down. There is no way to summarize his work as it is so incredibly detailed. People just have to read the book. When I gave the presentation for him at COPA on the 50th I had read about 70% of this LONG book. The presentation was a lot of new stuff on how Harvey and Lee figured into the Tippit shooting. It was John's work not my own. With Baker she is telling her personal story. A very long time ago, in 2004, for reasons I will not post here I believed her. Then like many others I began to dig deeper. I did read her book and it's a good read but I long ago stopped believing anything she says. She is almost like a mentally ill person to me. Her need to insert herself into this case borders on total madness. And yet many do believe her, on facebook mainly where I don't think a lot of people have done the serious reading or research. I have had to block some people there due to her. Arguments defending her and people believing that someone put glass in her food in Canada for example. Her tall tales just grow and grow. Her ego is very much involved too. John on the other hand is one of the most un- ego driven people I have ever encountered in the research community. I have been involved in this community since 1973 and know or have known most of the major players and in my opinion a lot of the bickering is ego based. I have been saddened by this my entire adult life as we are really a small group, compared to the world populace at large and I know the powers that be have been aware of all of the discord since the start. It's just one more notch in their arsenal. I had hoped after the 50th I could actually just walk away from all of this, but it has consumed so much of my life since day one that it's become like breathing almost. I hold NO conviction that the media or any government agency will ever fess up, or that things will ever improve. So I try to focus on all of the other blessings in my life to remain optimistic and happy.

Bernie I will say this one last f'ing time. I READ THE BOOK. I started to read it a third time and take notes which I do plan to get back to. This has gotten very ugly with all the name calling and so many of you arguing from total ignorance. I don't know why anyone bothers to argue this here. It's like arguing with a lone nutter: a total waste of time. I have kept away from this site and especially this thread yet you see fit to just throw me into it once again. I could care less what you all think on this issue. Or God. Or f'ing life. That you must continue to attack a book you all refuse to even read is actually a bit amusing if it was not so damn embarrassing.

Glen: (and Vince) I alerted Caleb, Carl's son, to the fact that you have put his book on here. Just saw him post it on facebook and I shared it. Much appreciation for doing this. Dawn