Nic Martin

As a young teen I lived in Abilene, Texas, in the early 60's. Around 1962-63 a young Russian woman with a baby girl moved into an inexpensive upstairs duplex apartment down the street from me. Each day this beautiful woman with dark hair and heavy Russian accent strolled down our out-of-the-way street, pushing her baby in a large, dark baby carriage. My girlfriend and I would walk with her often and enjoyed her company.

Due to her difficulty in speaking English very well, and because she seemed to be a very private person, we didn't plague her with too many questions about herself. I remember she said she was from Russia, and that she was selling magazines to help make a living. She also said her husband would be sending for her soon.

As she pushed the baby carriage, she always kept her head bent down looking at her baby, and seldom looked up or around. I don't remember what the woman called herself, but when we asked about the baby, she said she called her something that sounded to me like Lil Bee-Aye-Sha. She said that meant Little Bear in Russian, saying the bear was a symbol of her native country.

She lived there a very short time and moved out during the night. The next day we checked her apartment, and it was empty. I would like to ask Marina Oswald if she ever lived in Abilene, Texas, even if for a very brief time. Or was this just a strange coincidence.

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First off, it couldn't have been 1963.

1.) Marina Rachel Oswald was born October 20, 1963.

2.) On April 24, 1963 is when Marina moved in with Ruth Paine.

3.) We know Lee & Marina were living together in February 1963, because that's when they were introduced to the Paines by George DeMohrenschildt.

Secondly..

LHO didn't get permission to bring Marina to the US until June 1962. There's no documented time of him leaving her alone when she wasn't living with Ruth Paine.

Therefore, I think your experience was just a coincidence.

Er, when did Earl Warren become so friendly to anyone that wasn't white?..

The X on the street currently is about 2 feet off of where the actual headshot occured.

However, if you dare to run out in traffic or have someone do it for you, you can get really good pictures around the Plaza from the current X..

A good question, Nic.  I don't know the answer but I suspect at least one of our members does.

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I figure, if it's true, it's all the proof I personally need that LBJ had foreknowledge. He'd want to kill two birds with one stone.

The idea, though, that anyone would suggest LBJ was completely 100% an innocent bystander wrongly implicated after the fact, makes me feel sick.

Was it ever confirmed that LBJ wanted his nemesis Yarborough in the car with JFK instead of his good buddy Connally?

It seems wrong to care about investigating after losing such a great friend, but.. Does anyone think Fink, Boswell, & Humes are worth talking to?

He was one of the first people that supported me, and believed in me. He was one of the first people that didn't try to knock me down as being "just a kid."

It actually hurts to lose him. What a shock.

To answer my own question, in later broadcasts of that footage, that pop-pop disappears.

I don't think it was more shots fired, I'm just curious as to what it was.

I'm watching the CBS coverage of 11-24 ( 3 hours ), and after the DPD seperate Oswald & Ruby, I hear a quick "pop-pop" which sounds a lot like the "pop" when Ruby's gun went off.

I'd never heard anything about this, so if anyone has non-CBS footage, can you watch & tell me if you hear it too, or if it's maybe just CBS' microphone getting tapped on something by accident?

I doubt Fink, Boswell, etc. would say anything, but it could be given a shot.

Hmm, I didn't know any of that, thanks Jack.

I always did find it odd that they blamed a movie, makes more sense now. Pretty creative cover story if it was a conspiracy, though.

Or, for that matter, how did Squeaky Fromme get so close to President Ford with a loaded 45? That just happened to 'misfire'. Was this a warning to Gerald to fly right? (small pun intended).

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The gun Squeaky had wasn't loaded, according to every source I've found. She just wanted to prove it was possible to get that close to him.

Namebase only pulls up that book under "ROSE, JAMES ( CIA )." There's also a "ROSE, JAMES ( DEA )" though.. Sorry I can't be of more help.

Coretta Scott King hospitalized

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ATLANTA, Georgia (AP) -- Coretta Scott King was admitted to a hospital for an unspecified condition Tuesday and was resting comfortably, a hospital official said.

King, 78, the widow of slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr., went to an emergency room Tuesday morning, Piedmont Hospital spokeswoman Diana Lewis told WXIA-TV.

Lewis didn't elaborate on the reason for the hospitalization.

King has canceled recent public appearances, raising concerns about the health of the civil rights matriarch.

At a ceremony paying tribute to the King family at the Georgia State Capitol on June 30, her son Martin Luther King III said his mother was "doing well" and was only abiding by her doctor's orders to limit her activities. He refused to give additional details.

The Alabama-born Coretta Scott was studying voice at the New England Conservatory of Music when a friend introduced her to King, a young Baptist minister working toward a Ph.D. at Boston University. They married in 1953.

They had four children, and she was a supportive lieutenant to her husband during the most tumultuous days of the American civil rights movement. After his assassination in Memphis, Tennessee, in 1968, she continued his work, founding the Martin Luther King Jr. Center for Nonviolent Social Change the following year.

Thanks, Stephen. :] I was given contact information by a very special person ( ) and no longer have to tirelessly search through voter registration & tax records to get addresses & phone numbers. Now, I just need to find out where to start.

It is one thing to "know" these people from books and documents; It is a different thing altogether to talk with them or meet them. It dramatically expands the context of your understanding.

That's almost exactly what I said when I first stepped into Dealey Plaza. It's one thing to see it in books, on video, in photographs - but actually standing there and knowing the landmarks, was like being shot in the stomach. It all became more real, somehow.

In my opinion, telephone interviews by amateurs will not work.

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That shade of green is not a good color on anyone, Mr. Gratz..

BUT, I think there were about a hundred no name people like Hill, Bowers, Moorman, Hoffman. I am REALLY curious about what people would ask THOSE people if they were alive and those that ARE alive. See, Nic and I have access to most of 'em. Maybe with all of us together, we can ask the "right" questions. I THINK that was what Nic was getting into but I'm not trying to speak for her. Forgive me if I'm wrong Nic.

-C

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That's exactly it, I need interview questions. Hah. I didn't want to mention it, but you hit the nail on the head.

I've been scribbling down ideas all day and still feel that I need more.

I guess I'd narrow it down to E Howard Hunt, George HW Bush, and Ruth Paine. They would be my top three. Problem is, they still aren't telling what they know and they appear to be ready to take their respective secrets to the grave. The key to getting answers from people who don't wish to provide them is leverage. Of course, then you're into a dangerous game.

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What questions would you ask, though? If you could sit down with them right now, what questions would you ask?

I posted this a few days ago. :]

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=4690

Just curious as to what everyone would be curious about.

I have a slight interest in Jack the Ripper ( I adore Casebook.org, and recently read "The Complete History of Jack The Ripper," ) and while it is a mystery in that there's not really any widely-accepted suspects, the Kennedy assassination links so. many. people.

Mafia. CIA. FBI. ONI. Secret Service. Cubans. Communists. New Orleans. Washington DC. Miami. Dallas. Former Presidents of the United States.

With Jack The Ripper, there's really no one solid suspect that everyone agrees HAD to be the Ripper - with the Kennedy assassination, there's at least a thousand suspects and everyone believes something different.

Both cases are insanely great mysteries, but I have to agree - while several authors could dream up a story about a brutal serial killer leaving no suspects, I don't know of any that could dream up the Kennedy assassination with it's assorted cast of characters.

Is it possible that something was messed with on the car before they left in it? Something that'd take a while to show up, like.. Someone saw them leaving, poked a hole in a tire, or messed with the brakes somehow, hoping to kill Ted? However, for whatever reason, he wasn't in the car?

It's too much of a coincidence. JPK Jr, dead. JFK Sr, dead. RFK Sr, dead. Ted's been in a car accident and a plane crash, and he's still alive today. I heard one comedian say, "Ted Kennedy is living proof that the drunk always walks away from the accident."

Maybe it was done to shatter Ted's credibility, and it has. He'll never be President now, this case is too burned into the minds of everyone that knows his name.

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ER doctor at JFK's assassination tells his story

By CARRIE MAY

Star-Tribune staff writer Sunday, August 14, 2005

Only a small number of eyewitnesses to the JFK assassination are alive today, and even fewer of the team of ER doctors on staff at Parkland Hospital that day are able to tell their stories.

Saturday at the Trigeminal Neuralgia Association Conference at the Holiday Inn in Casper, neurosurgeon Dr. Phil Williams, M.D., spoke of his experiences on Friday, Nov. 22, 1963, in Dallas.

"Even though it was 40 years ago, it is still a part of our lives," said Williams, who was on staff at Parkland Hospital that day. A few hands raised when Williams asked who in the crowd of neurosurgeons could remember the exact place they stood when Kennedy was shot.

"The next thing we remember like that in our history is 9/11," Williams said.

In September of 1963, Williams was put in charge of the emergency room at Parkland Hospital in Dallas, where only two months later, President Kennedy would be brought to die. Williams had just graduated from Tulane University in New Orleans, returning to his hometown of Dallas for his internship. On Fridays around noon, Williams said he usually went to the ER to tend to the patients, but on that particular Friday, he was at a conference on the third floor above the ER.

A little after noon, Williams and his colleagues heard pages for some of the most important doctors at Parkland, but shrugged them off. A few minutes later, another intern stuck his head through the conference room door and said that President Kennedy and then Gov. John Connally were in the ER with gunshot wounds.

"At that point, his face was white as his coat," Williams said. Williams rushed to the first floor emergency room into what he called "complete pandemonium." The area was swarming with Secret Service men and medical staff.

Williams turned a corner near Trauma Room One, where President Kennedy was in surgery, to find then First Lady Jackie Kennedy standing alone.

"I offered her a chair and got her a folding metal chair. I offered her some water," Williams said. "She was very calm, very composed. She wasn't shouting and she wasn't screaming." Williams recalled that her pink dress was covered in her husband's blood.

Williams watched as his superiors at Parkland Hospital put Kennedy on a respirator, all the while knowing he was fatally wounded.

"People don't think he was alive when he came to the hospital, but he was," Williams said. Williams watched as one of the surgeons exited the trauma room and told Jackie Kennedy that her husband was not going to survive. Williams said she asked that her husband not be taken off of the respirator until he received the last rites, or sacrament of the dead, from a Catholic priest.

Williams does not believe Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in the assassination, but does not expect to ever find out what happened that day.

"I saw him alive and I saw him in a different situation ... I didn't like his politics, but I liked him as a person. They were a beautiful family," Williams said. "There are not many of us who were there ... an eyewitness to history."

Staff writer Carrie May can be reached at (307) 266-0616 or caroline.may@casperstartribune.net.

I see a distinction between state execution of that criminal, administered as painfully as possible, and a doctor ripping apart an innocent, eight month old female fetus within her mother's womb, when the abortion is solely for the convenience of the mother.  Neurologists understand that fetuses at that age feel pain.

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How many abortions take place at 8 months? Who is demanding that women should have the right to have abortions at 8 months?

Completely agreed. I don't think abortions should be performed after the fetus could survive on it's own outside the body of it's mother. Before that point, it is a mass of cells, and I feel no guilt about "killing" said lump of cells.

Nic- You live close enough togo next year. Might be a good way for you to get your foot in the door.

-Carrie

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I live about 6 hours away. I've been to Dallas once, in March 2003. It's a possibility I'm going back this November.