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    Jefferson Morley on A Major Break Coming in the JFK Assassination Story

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    Thank you, Tracy for these precisions. And now the cherry on the cake: 

    "Finally, it should be mentioned that Morley is calling for the release of the 44 documents on December 15th which is the deadline set by President Biden to either release records or continue to postpone. But the documents Morley is talking about are not part of the JFK Records Collection and it is unclear through what mechanism they could be released."

    Jefferson Morley on A Major Break Coming in the JFK Assassination Story

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    I'm retracting my fraud statement. I apologize. What Tracy Parnell wrote rose concerns in me, and that's why I reacted the way I did. I should have said that I'm now suspicious of Morley's motives and methods.

    Tracy wrote: "Newsweek is wrong. If Morley had such a document, that would be the first thing he would have shown. He speculates that the Joannides documents will prove his theory of an "Oswald Operation." They will do no such thing as they have already been seen by the ARRB who found nothing. If and when the documents are released, he will search through them for a word or phrase he can use to justify his claims and couple that with the witnesses he claims to have (but has not presented yet). He will then have his manufactured "truth" and can continue to write books and articles for years and call himself the "man who solved the assassination." That is my take on what Morley is doing."

    Jefferson Morley on A Major Break Coming in the JFK Assassination Story

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    16 minutes ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:

    The document is one that Morley posted in this article:

    Yes, There Is a JFK Smoking Gun - by Jefferson Morley (substack.com)

    I watched the whole presentation carefully. This has to be the document as nothing was said about a forthcoming document or anything. Morley has said he has witnesses, but you know all about witnesses.

    The doc merely says that Joannides was cleared for "special intelligence." Morley's theory stems from this and he says that the 44 Joannides docs will confirm it. All I can say is he must be a medium of some sort to know what is in files he hasn't seen. I am working on an article about this.

    David Talbot wrote 44 pages. Morley says it’s 44 documents. Maybe 44 documents one-page long each? 😂

    Jefferson Morley on A Major Break Coming in the JFK Assassination Story

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    1 hour ago, Pat Speer said:

    Newsweek reported on what was claimed. That's what they do. That's why you call a press conference. So someone will broadcast what you say. 

    I've met Jeff and he is not a fraud. When I first met him he'd already been looking into the Joannides angle for a decade or more. And yet he refused to say he thought more than Oswald was involved. He just knew--because the evidence strongly suggested as much--that the CIA was lying and stone-walling and hiding something. 

    He has now reached the point where he thinks Oswald was a patsy, I believe. But he doesn't know if he or anyone will be able to prove it. The document he refers to is not a smoking gun regarding the assassination, but is another piece of the puzzle. In fact, to my understanding, it could very well provide the CIA with a plausible excuse for all the lying and stone-walling. Oswald had been part of operation. They didn't want anyone to know. Lie. Stone-wall. 

    Not a smoking gun. But a disturbing revelation that adds fuel to the conspiracy fire. 

    I will finish with this. Newsweek wrote: "The document, one of several researchers obtained this month as the result of an October lawsuit, is a precursor to a fuller release of documents anticipated by the National Archives this month." It states as a fact that Morley has that document. But did Newsweek see it? Did they even ask to see it? Could not say the "alleged document"? They could have said they could not verify the existence of the document. I think they're just naive.

    Morley and MFF press conference

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    1 hour ago, Tom Gram said:

    I’m out of the loop, and already asked this question, but do you have any idea what Morley is referring to here? This statement suggests knowledge of specific withheld CIA operational records from a specific time period with a specific subject: Oswald.

    If there are still withheld or heavily redacted CIA op records on Oswald from ‘63 it would indeed be suspicious - but I’m not aware of anything in the ARC or anywhere else that fits that description. I’m not a human catalog though so I really have no idea.

    The closest thing I can think of is the Church Committee INS surveillance stuff, but those files are missing from the ARC. According a rough draft of the Committee report they couldn’t find any documentation of a mandate for INS surveillance on Cuban groups - but they didn’t mention if they were able to turn up any record of the surveillance itself and the 12/15/75 testimony of the guy who would have been charge, Art Bero, has never seen the light of day. 

    Also thanks Jean Paul. I want to update to that essay at some point but haven’t had time to write anything lately. I have a ton of “new” material that I think would add quite a bit - but it’s already long as hell so I might just do an addendum or something. Harry Holmes’ interview with Larry Sneed in particular is very interesting in context, and I have no idea how I missed it for the essay. I had the damn book too. 

    There is a member here who knows the answer, but prefered to keep it for himself. So I've begun to go through the video with 1.75 speed. It could be this: 

     

    https://ibb.co/Vq5556W

    David Lifton died on 12/6/2022

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    1 hour ago, Pat Speer said:

    The two times I met up with David, it was in Beverly Hills. I believe he lived in the area. As we know he went to UCLA, and I don't think he ever moved very far from there. Until recently. The last time we talked I think he did mention something about Las Vegas. 

    As far as family, he never married, and I believe he spent most of his life living alone. Long before I met David, or even got obsessed with the Kennedy case, however, I worked with a guy in the record biz, who told me Lifton was his wife's uncle. So he had extended family here in Southern California.

    As far as his records...David told me that the vast majority of his stuff was either given to the National Archives or in storage and not readily accessible. On at least three occasions, he called me in hopes I could help him find a primary source for something mentioned on my website, or posted on the Ed Forum. 

    As far as his book... It started out as a bio of Oswald, built upon interviews with Marina. I believe he could have finished this decades ago. But he was stuck on his body alteration theory, and wanted to double-down on that. So his final book was to be a two-parter--a history of Oswald merged with an update and expansion of his thoughts on the medical evidence. Will it ever come out? That's anyone's guess. 

    I will say that if his departure is confirmed, I will share what he thought was an important breakthrough in his thinking. I didn't write it down, but I can only assume others will have more details and help fill in the blanks. 

     

    P.S. I called his phone number and the phone number was no mas. As it was a local number, however, it might only mean he got a new number after moving to Vegas. 

    Thanks, Pat.

    Jefferson Morley on A Major Break Coming in the JFK Assassination Story

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    21 minutes ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:

    Newsweek is wrong. If Morley had such a document, that would be the first thing he would have shown. He speculates that the Joannides documents will prove his theory of an "Oswald Operation." They will do no such thing as they have already been seen by the ARRB who found nothing. If and when the documents are released, he will search through them for a word or phrase he can use to justify his claims and couple that with the witnesses he claims to have (but has not presented yet). He will then have his manufactured "truth" and can continue to write books and articles for years and call himself the "man who solved the assassination." That is my take on what Morley is doing.

    Sounds like the act of a fraud. 

    David Lifton died on 12/6/2022

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    5 minutes ago, Vince Palamara said:

    I am seeing zero online confirmation that David passed away. I hope we don't all have egg on our faces over this.

    :)))) Read Joseph's post. It adds to the credibility of the story. If Lifton denies the story, then we will know for sure the story is false. Remember Phil Collins?

    Morley and MFF press conference

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    19 hours ago, Jean Paul Ceulemans said:

    Good presentation, nice job. But I did not/do not expect any "smoking guns", I'm afraid those were burned decades ago.  

    There could be leads to explain the LHO-Agency connection(s).  From what is known, there must have been such connection(s).  It's about time to give those contacts a definition...  Some things LHO did IMO must have been him carrying out orders.

     

     

    There is one smoking gun: A still-classified covert operation approved by senior CIA officials three months before Kennedy's death that suggested the agency used Oswald for intelligence purposes several weeks prior to shooting.

    Jefferson Morley on A Major Break Coming in the JFK Assassination Story

    in JFK Assassination Debate

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    16 minutes ago, Jean Paul Ceulemans said:

    We'll wait, hope for the best and see what happens.   Announcements can be confusing, I wouldn't build a theory around it. 

    Like, how does a "low-level operative" relate to a double-agent, spending almost 3 years in Russia, getting married, have a kid, come back, have another kid, still continuing his role as a double agent ?  And during all that time job-hopping for a couple of nickels and dimes.  Sounds like a true patriot to do all of that...   

    Don't get me wrong please, I am not suggesting anything, the above is just an example of what assuming can lead to, so let's stick to the documents before concluding anything.

     

     

      

     

     

     

     

     

    Newsweek states as a fact that Morley has discovered a few days or weeks ago a document on a still-classified covert operation approved by senior CIA officials three months before Kennedy's death that suggested the agency used Oswald for intelligence purposes several weeks prior to shooting. Did Newsweek ask Morley to see the document? Or did they just take his word? Where can I see that document?

    Jefferson Morley on A Major Break Coming in the JFK Assassination Story

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    1 hour ago, W. Tracy Parnell said:

    They do not have the documents and have not seen them. Morley is merely making assumptions.

    From Newsweek say that he obtained a document resulting of the October lawsuit. When is he going to release that document?

    “In a Tuesday press conference at the National Press Club, Jefferson Morley—a veteran of the D.C. press corps and a preeminent expert on JFK's assassination with the Mary Ferrell Foundation—told reporters that he and attorneys with the foundation obtained documentation relating to a still-classified covert operation approved by senior CIA officials three months before Kennedy's death that suggested the agency used Oswald for intelligence purposes several weeks prior to shooting.”

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