Robin Unger

The man in the cap is NOT Phil Willis. As can be see from the Zapruder frames, Phil Willis was not wearing a hat.

Camera car (2) next to Officer Bakers motorcycle. Officer Joe Marshall Smith running down the Elm st Extension.

Regarding the Baker Timeline Baker was riding in between camera cars (2) and (3) on the right hand side. Couch and Darnell were in camera car (3)

Mr. BALL - By the time you left the steps had Mr. Truly entered the building? Mr. LOVELADY - As we left the steps I would say we were at least 15. maybe 25. steps away from the building. I looked back and I saw him and the policeman running into the building.

In another part of Shelleys testimony he said that he and lovelady went down to the rail tracks with some uniformed police officers ? It was in the exellent Archive link you posted earlier. I downloaded the PDF file and scrolled through it.

That is a good question. ? It interests me, because that goes to the heart of the " is the running woman seen in Darnell Gloria Calvery " issue

Yes Bob I seemed to recall you said that you place more faith in the first day testimony 22/11/63 ? This Testimony backs up the theory i put forward earlier, that Shelley ran into Gloria near the concrete island ?

Shelley Testimony: 11/22/63 Shelley's first day account of where he ran into Gloria Calvery crying I ran across the street to the corner of the park and ran into a girl crying and she said the president has been shot. this girls name is Gloria Calvery

Shelley Testimony: 11/22/63 Shelley's first day account of where he ran into Gloria Calvery crying

Yes Bob, that is correct

OK now that i have confirmed which person you were referring too as Lovelady, i will take a closer look.

I can't see Lovelady in this GIF ?

Darnell stabilized GIF showing that Bobs so called "Lovelady bending over on the steps" doesn't exist .

Bob You said you don't except that the two men seen in Couch are Lovelady and Shelley ? so do you think that Lovelady and Shelley are visible in either Couch or Darnell. ? and if so where are they.

The LOS perspective seen in Betzner3 and Zapruder can be deceptive. in actual fact the 5-woman were not really standing anywhere near the Stemmons sign Bronson

Yes Sandy another contradiction in the Testimony. And here is Shelley contradicting Bookhouts statement Mr. BALL. Did you at anytime after the President was shot tell Oswald to go home? Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir. Mr. BALL. Did you tell anybody to go home? Mr. SHELLEY. No. Mr. BALL. You didn't tell anybody to leave the building at all? Mr. SHELLEY. No, sir.

Mr. SHELLEY - We walked on down to the first railroad track there on the dead-end street and stood there and watched them searching cars down there in the parking lots for a little while and then we came in through our parking lot at the west end. Mr. BALL - Now, did the police come into the building? Mr. SHELLEY - Yes, sir; they started coming in pretty fast. Mr. BALL - Did you go with them any place? Mr. SHELLEY - Yes; Mr. Truly left me guarding the elevator, not to let anybody up and down the elevator or stairway and some plainclothesmen came in; I don't know whether they were Secret Service or FBI or what but they wanted me to take them upstairs, so we went up and started searching the various floors. Mr. BALL - Did you go up on the sixth floor? Mr. SHELLEY - Yes, sir. Mr. BALL - Were you there when they found anything up there? Mr. SHELLEY - I was, I believe I was on the sixth floor when they found the gun but we were searching all parts of that floor.

Mr. SHELLEY - We ran out on the island while some of the people that were out watching it from our building were walking back and we turned around and we saw an officer and Truly. Mr. BALL - And Truly? Mr. SHELLEY - Yes. Mr. BALL - Did you see them go into the building? MMr. SHELLEY - No; we didn't watch that long but they were at the first step like they were fixin' to go in.

Mr. BALL - Do you have any idea how long it was from the time you heard those three sounds or three noises until you saw Truly and Baker going into the building? Mr. SHELLEY - It would have to be 3 or 4 minutes I would say because this girl that ran back up there was down near where the car was when the President was hit. Mr. BALL - She ran back up to the door and you had still remained standing there? Mr. SHELLEY - Yes. So Shelley said that Calvery was down watching the motorcade and 3-4 minutes later she came running up to the TSBD steps ?

Mr. SHELLEY - Gloria Calvary from South-Western Publishing Co. ran back up there crying and said "The President has been shot" and Billy Lovelady and myself took off across the street to that little, old island and we stopped there for a minute. Mr. BALL - You went out there and then what did you do? Mr. SHELLEY - Well, officers started running down to the railroad yards and Billy and I walked down that way. Mr. BALL - How did you get down that way; what course did you take? Mr. SHELLEY - We walked down the middle of the little street. Mr. BALL - The dead-end street? Mr. SHELLEY - Yes. Mr. BALL - Did you see Truly, Mr. Truly and an officer go into the building? Mr. SHELLEY - Yeah, we saw them right at the front of the building while we were on the island.

Good question Bob Where was Shelley after he came back from the tracks. ? What time did Lovelady go up to the 6th floor after he came back from the tracks ? at 12:50PM lovelady was standing in front of the Doorway.

The Testimonies are contradictory to one another, that is part of the problem.