Nick Bartetzko

I am unable to source this information. IIRC, Gerry Hemming mentioned in a thread or in Noel Twyman's book, that the "team" had a key to the TSBD and entered around 300 am and stayed on the 7th floor. After the assassination, they repelled down the elevator shaft via ropes and escaped through the rear entrance. This would make some sense as to the elevator being inoperable for a while.

This is not a complete document, but I did go to the trouble of including some rather pertinent data. Home/Archive/Documents/JFK Assassination Documents/JFK Documents - Central Intelligence Agency/HSCA Segregated CIA Collection/HSCA Segregated CIA Collection, Box 40/ NARA Record Number: 104-10110-10377 BIOGRAPHICAL DATA: CAPEHART, CLAUDE BARNES http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=14169 Birth: 15 Ocotber 1924, Omeka, Oklahoma Marital Status: Robert Mary Nee: BALTEY b. 2 Dec 1922, Winsboro, La.; Address: Same as Subject. Parents: Capehart, Henry Hayes b. 15 Oct 1876, Stamps, Arkansas; Deceased. Capehart, Laura Jefferson; Nee: GARBROUGH; b. 1 April, 1873, Memphis Tennessee; Deceased Children: Capehart, Neal Henry; b. 11 Aug. 1953 Bakersfield, California; Add: Box 7011 Reno, Nev. Military: September 43-July 46, U.S. Army Sergeant # 39145469 Claude Barnes Capehart aka Claude Buster Capehart Social Security 566-22-5896 Date Added: June 1973 I believe there is a photo of someone in front of the TSBD who looks like Claude Capehart. I have been unable to find it, but if I recall, it bears a resemblance to these embassy photos. Anyone have a copy of that photo and can post it? This Capehart thread is interesting and Jim D did a story on Claude Capehart in his publication Probe V4 #1 entitled "The Capehart Caper" I couldn't upload the Jim Murray photo but here's link to it on Robin Unger's great website: http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=41&pos=18 --Thomas That's it. Thanks. Capehart has always been of interest to me as well as Nagell. The sheriff's office in California had a photo of Capehart which they misplaced and they were unable to locate it. I was promised a call if they located it, but never heard back.

This is not a complete document, but I did go to the trouble of including some rather pertinent data. Home/Archive/Documents/JFK Assassination Documents/JFK Documents - Central Intelligence Agency/HSCA Segregated CIA Collection/HSCA Segregated CIA Collection, Box 40/ NARA Record Number: 104-10110-10377 BIOGRAPHICAL DATA: CAPEHART, CLAUDE BARNES http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=14169 Birth: 15 Ocotber 1924, Omeka, Oklahoma Marital Status: Robert Mary Nee: BALTEY b. 2 Dec 1922, Winsboro, La.; Address: Same as Subject. Parents: Capehart, Henry Hayes b. 15 Oct 1876, Stamps, Arkansas; Deceased. Capehart, Laura Jefferson; Nee: GARBROUGH; b. 1 April, 1873, Memphis Tennessee; Deceased Children: Capehart, Neal Henry; b. 11 Aug. 1953 Bakersfield, California; Add: Box 7011 Reno, Nev. Military: September 43-July 46, U.S. Army Sergeant # 39145469 Claude Barnes Capehart aka Claude Buster Capehart Social Security 566-22-5896 Date Added: June 1973 I believe there is a photo of someone in front of the TSBD who looks like Claude Capehart. I have been unable to find it, but if I recall, it bears a resemblance to these embassy photos. Anyone have a copy of that photo and can post it? This Capehart thread is interesting and Jim D did a story on Claude Capehart in his publication Probe V4 #1 entitled "The Capehart Caper" I couldn't upload the Jim Murray photo but here's link to it on Robin Unger's great website: http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=41&pos=18 --Thomas

This is not a complete document, but I did go to the trouble of including some rather pertinent data. Home/Archive/Documents/JFK Assassination Documents/JFK Documents - Central Intelligence Agency/HSCA Segregated CIA Collection/HSCA Segregated CIA Collection, Box 40/ NARA Record Number: 104-10110-10377 BIOGRAPHICAL DATA: CAPEHART, CLAUDE BARNES http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=14169 Birth: 15 Ocotber 1924, Omeka, Oklahoma Marital Status: Robert Mary Nee: BALTEY b. 2 Dec 1922, Winsboro, La.; Address: Same as Subject. Parents: Capehart, Henry Hayes b. 15 Oct 1876, Stamps, Arkansas; Deceased. Capehart, Laura Jefferson; Nee: GARBROUGH; b. 1 April, 1873, Memphis Tennessee; Deceased Children: Capehart, Neal Henry; b. 11 Aug. 1953 Bakersfield, California; Add: Box 7011 Reno, Nev. Military: September 43-July 46, U.S. Army Sergeant # 39145469 Claude Barnes Capehart aka Claude Buster Capehart Social Security 566-22-5896 Date Added: June 1973 I believe there is a photo of someone in front of the TSBD who looks like Claude Capehart. I have been unable to find it, but if I recall, it bears a resemblance to these embassy photos. Anyone have a copy of that photo and can post it? This Capehart thread is interesting and Jim D did a story on Claude Capehart in his publication Probe V4 #1 entitled "The Capehart Caper"

A few years ago, I sent Rich DellaRosa an unopened Kodachrome that had been stored in my garage for years. It was from a dear friend who was a photography buff. I am hoping you were able to use that film and, if not, might have access to it through Rich's wife or children should you need it in the future.

Very sad news. I am fortunate to have been a member of Rich's forum and gotten to know him. RIP Nick

The first report that 'Oswald' had been in the USSR and a 'communist' came to the press from a call from Bell Helicopter. There is a whole chapter on this issue in "Coincidence or Conspiracy," edited by Bud Festerwald and Michael Ewing, which if I recall correctly, originally attributed the quote "we know who did it" to a window washer in the Bell Hell janitoral department, but additional release of records indicated it was from a phone tap. They knew Michael Paine was at one end of the line but not sure who was at the other end - narrowing it down to either Ruth Paine or Michael Paine's father, Lyman Paine, the founder of the Trotskite party of USA. Some have even speculated it was a conversation between Michael Paine and his step-father Arthur Young, the inventor of the Bell Hellicopter 47-A and patron of Michael's job in the design department of Bell Hell. If it was a phone tap, as speculated, it would have been a tap initiated by the Security Department of Bell Hell, directed by former Nazi General Dornberger, who came into the USA with his cohort, Weiner Von Braun and Project Paperclip. If someone has a handy copy of "Coincidence or Conspiracy" they can fill us in on exacatly what the documents say. BK I do have that book and did a quick search on the Paines. The pertinent information is on pages 215-216. To paraphrase, On 2-11-76, based largely on the effort of WC scholar Kevin Walsh, the National Archives declassified a page of WC Document # 206. This page appears to be based on an FBI wiretap log. Page 66 of that document refers to a confidential informant who overheard a phone call placed from Michael Paine's office and his home. The book concludes it was likely between Michael Paine and his wife. The informant ....."advised that the male voice was heard to comment that he felt sure that Lee Harvey Oswald had killed the President but did not feel Oswald was responsible and further stated, We both know who is responsible." Further, in the book, it was stated that in the spring of 1976 it was reported that it was a Dallas telephone repair man who was the informant. That's all I could find right now. Nick

Very helpful, Tom. Thank you Nick

And, since Jethro could find no evidence of anyone hiding in the trunk of the Presidential Limo, he had to assume that there must be another, yet unresolved, answer to exactly how a bullet which was fired on a downward angle, could strike the human skin in an upward angle of attack. Thus creating an "abrasion collar" at the bottom boundary of the wound of entry while also "punching" out a nice neat 4mm X 7mm wound of entry. Of course, this still left poor ole "Jethro" in a quandry. Which centered around exactly how it was that a bullet which was fired on a downward angle of approximately 18-degrees down, could enter the body on a base first upward angle of attack, yet thereafter continue to penetrate into the body on a downward angle of from 45 degrees to 60 degrees downward. Hope that answered your question Nick! Tom Thanks much for your continued posts. Although you have explained all this in detail, the concept of an lower abrasion collar vs a shot from above is difficult to comprehend and accept. Are you saying that depending on the rotation at the moment of impact, it could also have been possible to leave an upper abrasion collar? Nick

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The hole at the edge of the collar, which went through both the outer coat and the inner liner in an irregular fashion. is the bullet entrance hole for the third/last/final shot which occured down in front of James Altgens at a time when JFK was bent fully forward with his face down and turned to the side. The bullet penetrated through the slightly raised coat collar on a tangent, exited to strike JFK at the base of the neck in the edge of the hairline, and therafter penetrated through the soft tissue of the neck before striking the skull in the EOP region. Thanks for your detailed response . It is very much appreciated. I only recall having seen photos of the tie, shirt lower hole in the jacket. Is (was) there a photo of a higher hole in the jacket? Thanks Nick

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I know little about ballistics. Well! While I dig out the answer to your question, perhaps a little comparison would be of benefit. P.S. It was long ago reviewed by one with the full credentials of the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation (OSBI) and a full member of AFTE. Tom I reviewed the document, photos etc. You research is meticulous and your theories are "persuasive". But you make a supposition that a tumbling bullet would leave as clean an entry wound (4x7mm) striking from the tail end vs the nose end and that is specifically what I do not understand. Are you saying that all tumbling bullets will leave sharp entry wounds? I will phrase it a different way. If a bullet is fired directly into a tree branch and begins to tumble/wobble, what factors (deflection, velocity?) affect whether that wobbling bullet would enter perfectly to match the precise 4 x 7mm measurement or leave a much larger wound indicative of a tumbling, wobbling object? If a bullet wobbles side to side, it would leave a larger wound and if it wobbles end over end, it would need to strike at a very precise point to leave a clean 4x7mm wound. I don't know any other way to phrase my questions. I don't recall you discussing the characteristics of tumbling bullets and what ballistics issues would determine a larger than normal wound vs a standard wound. Nick

Next, when we know that either a "paper punch" or a flat-nosed "wadcutter" bullet creates an entry point which has relatively clean cut edges, and we recognize that CE#399 has only one flat end, and that flat end measures the exact dimensions as to the entry wound into the back of JFK, and that entry wound had relatively clean-cut edges, then even our "Jethro Bodine" sixth grade children can figure out exactly which end of CE399 struck JFK and is responsible for the back entry wound. I know little about ballistics. Could you or "Jethro" just answer a couple of questions for me....1) what is the likelihood of a tumbling bullet leaving what appears to be a clean 4x7mm wound? 2) wouldn't any tumbling bullet leave a much larger wound, more in keeping with the length of the bullet itself?

Gil, as always, you post interesting videos. Can you elaborate on your opinion in the video that the body was already in another casket and was altered at Walter Reed? Seems David Lifton and others have tried that route and have yet to come up with any Walter Reed witnesses. Nick

I'm just re-reading this important and interesting thread....and whoa...! isn't Barrett the man identified as the FBI man in the Plaza looking at, reaching for and picking up something in the grass near the road...many think a bullet?! How the hell did he get to the Tippit shooting area to witness a wallet handover...did certain folks have a script of what was to happen where and when?!..... I've read this thread again and it doesn't appear that Barrett's identity in DP was ever confirmed....although long suspected. I believe he has also denied it. IIRC, some time ago there was a thread (maybe on Rich DellaRosa's site) on the mystery man showing the photos of him putting something/nothing in his pocket. I believe Leavelle said he knows who the man is, but will not reveal the name to respect the man's privacy. I am presuming no one has shown those interesting/suspicious photos to Leavelle, otherwise he might change his mind. Nick

I met Vince at a Jerry Rose JFK conference in Fredonia New York about 1991. He has done tremendous work over the years and it's an honor to have him on this forum.

Any idea which officer is in front of the limo? Ellis or Freeman?

I agree. Not sure what purpose it serves to alienate those who have agreed to take the time to join the forum and answer questions. Nick

Thanks, Gil. Interesting video and good quality. Looks like there are a few frames of Lovelady as well. Nick

Here's a link for the obituary notice for Nancy Denlea. http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=nancy+den...amp;ei=UTF-8and I had never known her last name was Denlea, but I'm well aware of that name. Her husband, Leo, was the CEO of a large insurance company I worked for and I had an opportunity to meet him on a few occasions. The Denlea family lived in the Hancock Park area of Los Angeles. I vaguely recall seeing a copy of the obituary of Admiral Burkley that he had died in Los Angeles. That now makes sense as his daughter took care of him in his last years. Apparently Admiral Burkley had 3 other children. It would be interesting to know if they are still alive and if they have authority to waive the attorney/client privilege or if that opportunity is lost as Mrs Denlea was the estate executor. Maybe Bill Kelly could comment on this.

That link to Olivier's Rockefeller report serves as a reminder. Once again, thank you for putting all the Rockefeller medical panel stuff up online. It led me to a still unappreciated discovery. It's absolutely stunning that radiologist Fred Hodges told the Rockefeller Commission the skull entrance was in the occipital bone as determined at autopsy. Apparently, no one noticed that he was contradicting the Clark Panel's assessment of an entrance 4 inches higher on the skull, and thought it worthwhile to clear this up. Instead, the Belin-led PR machine pumped out that the doctors confirmed two shots from behind and locked away the details so no one could see the extent of the mess he'd uncovered. Pat Thanks for the Rockefeller Commission information. I'd never heard of radiologist Fred Hodges and his startling conclusion. I presume this is Dr Hodges. http://www.mir.wustl.edu/neurorad/internal.asp?NavID=10 Nick

That is an interesting theory and a different way to interpret the movements of JFK and JBC. I'm very familiar with Doug's good work on the windshield. If your theory is correct, then when did the back wound occur? Another possible explanation that occurred to me when reading your post is that the shot went through the windshield and missed. Maybe this is the shot that Virgie Rachley and others saw hit the street.

Great collection of videos you have come up with. Regarding the Milteer tape, seems to me I recall hearing a much better copy, although I don't recall which TV program that was. Nick

Hi Bernice Thanks for that link. It had been a while since I last saw it. I've always been interested in Wilson's work. What is curious about the video is the wound shown in Moorman does not appear similar to what is allegedly obscured in the autopsy photo. Any thoughts on that? Anyone else also notice that? Nick

Yes only as to the top two photos. I assume that is Robert Oswald in the photo. So what government branch would be accompanying/protecting him at that time? Nick