Cliff Varnell

Ben Shapiro is a lying sack of excrement. Since the perp was a Right-winger he was responding to Trump's rhetoric.

I'm not giving "a distorted and desperate view of the other side." I'm quoting what the other side has said repeatedly -- Trump will be justified in using the power of his office to arrest his political enemies. Trump has said he'd be justified suspending the Constitution, that he'll be a dictator on Day One. Which is not applicable in 2024 when the Supreme Court has given the President the power of a King -- and one candidate expressly intends to take full advantage.

Sickos who blame Right-wing violence on the Left?

My take as well. He was outraged/inspired by Trump's own words (or so I speculate).

You wrote: My reaction: there SEEMS to be a difference between random-assasination attempts (Trump, Ford, Reagan) and JFK (and MLK that seemed more organized by government elements. Again,this difference isn't dispositive, of course, but I find myself more and more thinking JFK, RFK and MLK are a different breed of assassination. </q> What's preventing you from expanding on this observation?

No Johnny, it depends on facts. The kid wore a super-patriotic T-shirt in his high school year book, registered Republican when he was 18, and wore the gear of a right-wing gun website when he fired an AR-15 at Trump. There is nothing left wing about these facts. False equivalence. Freedoms that are under attack by fascists -- Trump and his Project 2025, his unceasing violent rhetoric, his open desire to align with Putin, and his stated desire to suspend the Constitution and be a dictator on Day One scream the fact this is not normal politics. Personally, I think the country was more polarized in the 60's and 70's when political bombings were as common as today's mass shootings. Especially over that bit where Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito said the two sides cannot live together peacefully. I don't want to live under a Christian Fascist dictatorship, especially when the dictator is an infantile narcissistic career fraudster adjudicated rapist. Trump promises to bring democracy to an end. Spare me the kumbaya.

And he was the type of kid who'd wear a super patriotic T-shirt for a high school yearbook photo, registered as a Republican when he turned 18, sat in the front row of his honors economics class, and wore the gear of a right-wing gun website to the shooting. Trump has spent nine years spewing violent, divisive hate speech and he doesn't bear a degree of responsibility for this?

Front of the honors class. No dummy. Did all of Trump's talk of dictatorship on day 1 and absolute immunity drive this super-patriotic kid over the edge?

I don't see why not. In the early days of the first Trump term sets of TWMHP were going for $200 each and up. I have 150 un-collated sets in my closet. I should have jumped on it then -- now sets go for about $70 mint. Come and get me Crapper -- I can make money off notoriety too.

Registered as a Republican is only one indication. He posed for a high school yearbook wearing a T-shirt that had Mt. Rushmore super-imposed upon the Stars and Stripes. Most important, he wore the gear of a right wing gun website to the shooting. Small Town white boy. He made the donation at the time of Biden's inauguration. As a super patriotic true believer he probably felt it was a patriotic gesture. And now we get to the part of the exchange where stories are made up out of whole cloth. Mt. Rushmore and Demolition Ranch say otherwise. Who cares what you believe? You're just making stuff up.

You know Rick Wilson is a republican, right?

Not at all. As a student of the JFKA I know how much assassinated politicians are canonized. Trump thought it was real funny Nancy Pelosi's husband was bludgeoned with a hammer. Karma's a bitch, ain't it? 1) He's a registered Republican. 2) He posed for a high school yearbook photo in a shirt depicting Mt. Rushmore super-imposed on the Stars and Stripes. 3) At the shooting he wore the gear of a right wing gun website Demolition Ranch. Let me tell you something about me as a human being. In 1992 I wrote the text for a set of collector's cards called THE WORLD'S MOST HATED PEOPLE. I insisted Don Trump had to be in the set. It was a hit in New York. Al Goldstein wrote it up in Screw, and I've been told it was discussed on at least one New York radio talk show. Will Trump get to me in his campaign of retribution? I doubt it. But it's possible.

Shows how stupid he is. Shots ring out, he gets hit, then he insists on standing in the open. "Wait! Wait! Wait!" Trump endangered not only his life but the lives of the SS detail by holding them up for a photo op. Iconic or moronic?

The anti-Trump BS coming from 20 year old small town white boys who wear a shirt in their high school yearbook with Mt. Rushmore superimposed on the stars and stripes, and then wear a T-shirt advertising a right wing gun website while shooting at a right wing politician?

Trump got shot by a Right-winger. Did liberals kill RFK?

What does this have to do with a 20 year old Republican super-patriot gun nut shooting at Trump?

Man Shot in the Head and Killed at Trump Rally Tracy, who was close to the incident, describes what happened: “Somebody got popped, somebody got killed, somebody died. Somebody got shot this close to where we were. Those bullets. I pray to God for these people's families. Oh, my God. But how is this happening in our country today? Today?? How about every day. Trump bragged to the NRA he "did nothing" on gun violence. For all the good folk throwing around the phrase "political violence" please be aware Trump was attacked by a super-patriot probably to his Right.

People are prone to imitate what they hate -- these two hate the guy who drew laughs mocking Paul Pelosi. Be careful how one hates...

But your hate is hideously misplaced. The perp was a super-patriot right wing white boy -- you claim he represented the Left. I hate lies. I admit it.

I find the narrative Trump was a hero amusing given the amount of responsibility he carries for his own shooting.

The perp was a 20 year old small town white boy super-patriot registered Republican gun nut. Trump has spent the last nine years spewing violent hate speech and got tagged by one of his own. More than any woman who dressed slutty and got raped -- Trump Asked For It. Rush to judgement much? Whatever you do, don't let facts get in the way of your feelings.

Rallying the crowd against whom? A 20 year old small town white boy registered-Republican gun nut. Trump's nine year record of violent rhetoric came back and bit him in the ear. Cenk sucks, by the way.

Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson at NC church meeting: “Some folks need killing” https://ncnewsline.com/2024/07/05/lt-gov-mark-robinson-at-nc-church-meeting-some-folks-need-killing/ Trump-https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-trump-georgia-threats/ MAGA’s Violent Threats Are Warping Life in America https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/opinion/magas-violent-threats-are-warping-life-in-america.html

Trump’s ‘bloodbath’ and other rhetoric inflame his 2024 campaign trail https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bloodbath-vermin-animals-trumps-rhetoric-trail-2024-03-22/