Kathleen Collins

Dear Bernice -- thank you for that picture, but there's another one. I will try to find it and post it from the Internet instead of my computer. Kathy

Picture doesn't post correctly. Sorry. Kathy Collins

As we all know, Pierre Salinger was President Kennedy's press secretary. I think with the death of the President and the other assassinations, Pierre Salinger wanted to do the truthful thing, the courageous thing before he left this earth. He informed on secret military tests that may have led to the downing of TWA Flight 800. I think seeing the Warren Commission lie about Nov. 22, 1963, Salinger spotted something being covered up again and this made him go public. Whether the terrible plane crash off Long Island was caused by friendly fire or from Iranians, Salinger felt the FBI, the Navy and powers that be were lying to the US people again. Salinger became a figure of fun. Yet, he and Al Gore felt Clinton had covered up OKC, TWA 800, Lockerbie, the first bombing of the World Trade Center. He didn't want the American Public to know that these were terrorist activities. So Clinton lied to the US populace. This, Salinger felt, was Treason and Sedition. Then Bush Jr became President and 9/11 happened. Is this why we're in Iraq? Because the Arab nations were attacking us and we covered it up? Was Nicols and Tim McVeigh patsies? The American people -- no doubt -- still don't know the truth of all of this. Much of what I've written here comes from CNN. Here is how they summed up Pierre Salinger in their obituary of him. "As for Salinger, after years of suffering from dementia, he died of heart failure in 2004..." Actually, Salinger moved to France because of all the lying that goes on in American govt. Two questions: Did Clinton or Bush Jr know these attacks were coming? Why are they covering them up? If they were afraid of a war-like sentiment in the US, what do they think of Sen. McCain? We'll know war forever. How can you reason with religious fanatics? In posting this, I'd like others opinions on these matters. Election time draws ever so near. Kathy Collins

Now I know why I was first to mention he died: no one here liked him! Wasn't Tim Russert the Interviewer who asked both George W. Bush and Bill Kerry separately if they belonged to Skull and Bones, the secret society, from Yale? And each one separtately answered in the same manner -- a snicker, a downcast look and then a complete change in topic? The Republican and the Democrat running for President and they both answered in the same manner. Kathy Collins

The links you provided didn't work for me. There were no such pages. Maybe because I'm on AOL? Kathy Collins

Thank you, Dixie, and Bill Kelly as well. I thought he might be "Lee" Oswald. This man looks nothing like Oswald. Kathy Collins

I see that no one has reported that Tim Russert of MSNBC has died. They think it was a heart attack. He was preparing for his show when he passed out. He was 58 years old. They rushed him to the hospital but couldn't revive him. They are going to do an autopsy. He leaves behind a wife and child. Kathy Collins

Does anyone have a picture of Thomas Arthur Vallee? I've read that he resembled Oswald so much. I just wondered if he was Lee (Harvey and Lee) Oswald? If so, we could drop red-headed Donald O'Norton as a flake or something. Kathy Collins

If Oswald was the assassin, then which one did it, Harvey or Lee (as per John Armstrong)? What was Oswald's motive? If Oswald wanted this kind of infamy, why did he deny shooting anybody in front of TV cameras? Wouldn't he be gloating? Kathy Collins

I hope this isn't off-topic. I haven't been here for awhile. While reading a link that Peter Lemkin supplied about the Kennedy Assassinations, this passage from G. Gordon Liddy's book WILL struck me as to what MI6 did to Princess Diana: "Dr. Gunn [suggested] a technique used successfully abroad. It involved catching the target's moving automobile in a turn or sharp curve and hitting it with another car on the outside rear quarter. According to Dr. Gunn, if the angle of the blow and the relative speeds of the two vehicles were correct, the target vehicle would flip over, crash, and, usually, burn." (p.207-208)" Kathy Collins

I didn't read the Roselli piece, but Harry Cohn hated Monroe and she only made one film for Columbia, The Ladies of the Chorus. She was very good in that and then she was dropped. And Johnny Schenck never did anything for her either. The boost in her career came when she met Johnny Hyde the agent. Daryl Zanuck didn't like her either. Kathy Collins

I was watching a Friday car chase on Fox News when I saw this on the crawl: (paraphrase) The Ayatollah said that Iran should have the strongest mitlitary. No one will pass into their borders. Then: "This is the end for the United States." I wonder if this is for real or are "they" keeping us scared? Kathy

I agree with you. I also think Robert F. Slatzer, who wrote The Life of Curious Death of Marilyn Monroe was a disinformationalist. No one in Marilyn's camp ever heard of him. He died 3 years ago.

I hope it's an April Fool's Joke. The show wasn't even Kup's Show. Irv was being interviewed by another talk show host. In that segment, at least, Irv was the only guest. Kathy

One of the links in this story, which does not work, is http://xymphora.blogspot.com/barrels_of_laughter. The video link of Hillary on the Kupcinet show does not show Hillary. The post is dated April 1. Clearly an April Fool's joke. Thank you Gary, That's the way the cookie crumbles. BK I've already locked horns with this character, Leo B Harley, aka Jerome Lowe. He wants to run a conspiracy site, but he allows deliberate bull---- on his site. He writes that Karyn Kupcinet knew Bobby Baker and became one of his call girls -- she never knew that guy. Mary Jo Kopechne and Karyn went to the same college and were the same age. Mary Jo went to Caldwell College for women in NJ. Karyn, who quit college after one semester, went to Pine Manor in the town of Wellesley. However both she and her mother let agents, etc., think she did go to Wellesley. She never knew Mary Jo. I'd love to see the tape of teenage Hillary with a pink ribbon in her hair on Kup's Show. Then, Harley stole my theory about Paul Dorfman having Karyn killed to distract Chicago away from Ruby or Mobsters connected to the Assassination. And to abolish Irv's investigation into Ruby. Then Harley copyrights my theory. His tale is full of holes. When I emailed him about Karyn, he answered, "Who's paying you?" and called my concerns "irrelevant piffle." That's what he thinks of Karyn Kupcinet. I just want to say that I never took a dime off KK. And my obsession comes from the heart. Kathy Collins

I agree with you, Jack, about OJ. When he was acquitted, and especially after the civil trial, I thought someone was going to kill him. But time has passed and he's in trouble again. Personally, I think the charges against him are trumped up. I agree, too, that OJ is innocent regarding the murders of Ron and Nicole. He happened onto the scene. There is a book you can get from Amazon called OJ Is Guilty, But Not of Murder by William C. Dear. Terry Mauro graciously sent it to me. I always believed the perpetrator had to be covered with blood, not just a spot in his bronco. I think OJ'ss older son from his first marriage killed both Ron and Nicole. No other suspect was ever entertained, except OJ. Yes, OJ is a xxxx, but he must have figured he'd get off. It's all in the book. There was just one gossipy thing in it. Fred Goldman and his son Ron hadn't spoken in years. Kathy

Myra, I don't believe Ronald Reagan had anything to do with Lennon's death. Remember Bush 41 tried to have Reagan assassinated shortly after he took office so he could become President and work for the Elites. It didn't happen. I don't think Reagan was "in" on many things the right-wing did. IMO. Kathy

I believe the "epileptic seizure" was an act and this person knew nothing of what was going on, just do as told. Like the way Woody Allen directs his actors. Kathy

I read in another thread some time ago that someone had looked up -- I think it was a man -- and seen a man holding a rifle. So you have an empty area and the President's coming, you see a gun -- and you do nothing! I would have tried to find a cop, something. BTW, I assume she's the wife of Walther with the black hat. Kathy

FWIW, I was the first one to mention the incident re nuclear missiles flying over America. Some nasty man on this Forum laughed at me. Things have changed, huh? Kathy

I'm with you. I believe in 2 Oswalds. All the research John Armstrong did, only half of it coming to life with that book. I came across something curious the other day. It was a remark somewhere about how people could be fooled into thiniking there's 2 or more Lee Harvey Oswalds. Judyth Vary Baker said that Lee was born in the old creole section of New Orleans, and that there was so much inbreeding there that many men (at least at the time) who came out of there looked like Lee. She also applies this to Lee's "accent." I know Judyth isn't believable, but it gave me cause to wonder. All the photos we've seen. Like the one of LHO in Russia by a river and he's only like 5' tall. Yet he's got the same face! It wasn't "trick photography." He leaves in a Rambler but is arrested and taken out the back of theTexas Theater, while Harvey is arrested and taken out the front. A third Oswald?... How about this Oswald? A little guy with the same face. He looks like a pubescent Harvey, but the hat the woman on the ground is wearing came out as a fad in 1960, a Chinese sun hat. Kathy

I'm with you. I believe in 2 Oswalds. All the research John Armstrong did, only half of it coming to life with that book. I came across something curious the other day. It was a remark somewhere about how people could be fooled into thiniking there's 2 or more Lee Harvey Oswalds. Judyth Vary Baker said that Lee was born in the old creole section of New Orleans, and that there was so much inbreeding there that many men (at least at the time) who came out of there looked like Lee. She also applies this to Lee's "accent." I know Judyth isn't believable, but it gave me cause to wonder. All the photos we've seen. Like the one of LHO in Russia by a river and he's only like 5' tall. Yet he's got the same face! It wasn't "trick photography." He leaves in a Rambler but is arrested and taken out the back of theTexas Theater, while Harvey is arrested and taken out the front. A third Oswald?... Kathy How about this Oswald? A little guy with the same face.

Aye, but 'tis none of the above. The story of the electrical blackout is a misconstruction. I'm thinking that it was Geneva Hine - don't have time to look it up at the moment - who had stayed behind the the TSBD to answer phones. She noted that, at about the time the motorcade came around, the phone stopped ringing "and all the lights went out." What she was referring to was not to the lights in the building, but the lights on the phone. If you remember the old multi-line phones, they had a row of clear lucite buttons with which to select the line. When in use or when ringing, the lights beneath the buttons lit up: steady when the line was in use, blinking when it was ringing or on hold. On the other hand, two people testified to the elevator not working as they rode from the first floor upward to the second. One of them was Luke Mooney, whose testimony following that incident is most interesting. The other was a woman who'd testified to the same thing; I can't think of her name offhand either. The "Invisible Man" was standing about 10 feet west of the west (freight) elevator at the time of the shooting, which likewise placed him about 10 feet from the stairwell, directly in the path of anyone who would have run down from the sixth floor to any floor below. He apparently had the elevator doors open, for about 60-75 seconds later, Roy Truly tried calling the elevator down, but it didn't move; he even rang the bell to get whoever might've been using it's attention to close the door, but to no avail. It and the passenger elevator to the east - which could only be operated when someone was in it and could not be called anywhere - were both at the fifth floor, exactly where the "Invisible Man" said that he was. Interestingly, when Truly and Baker got to the fifth floor (where Truly had last seen both elevator bottoms when he looked up the shaft), Truly took Baker right by where the freight (west) elevator should have been - but wasn't - and went to the passenger (east) elevator, which the two of them rode up to the seventh floor, past the sixth. Truly even testified that he saw the freight elevator was gone, but he did not call it to Baker's attention. Since it would seem that a moving elevator would've caught even Baker's attention - he wouldn't have necessarily known there was supposed to have been an elevator there - it would seem that the elevator had either ascended or descended while B&T were running up the stairs, making all sorts of noise. Going down might've caused whoever was operating the freight elevator - which faced the stairs - to have been noticed by Baker as they made their descent to (or past) the fifth floor if, for example, Baker had hesitated on the fifth floor like he did on the second floor, with Truly running ahead. On the other hand, if the freight elevator went up while B&T were coming up from below, they had but one floor to move and no chance of bumping into Baker on the way down. Once Truly got him on the enclosed passenger elevator, going down past B&T as they "hopscotched" the sixth floor would've provided the cover that was needed to get down to, say, the fourth floor. Both elevators moved at almost exactly the same speed (according to Billy Lovelady, who had previously timed the two elevators going down from the seventh to the first floors), thus the passenger elevator going up two flights was roughly equal to the freight elevator going down two floors, both stopping at about the same time. The elevator "stall" - which may have been the result of someone not closing the gate fully? - happened after that. Luke Mooney saw whoever it was that was coming down. He thought they were cops, but there were no other cops in the building other than Baker - who was on the seventh floor at the time - Mooney's partner going up the stairs, and Mooney himself who was momentarily stranded on the second floor, walked up, and was the first officer known to be on the sixth floor other than Baker on his way down from seven. Mooney did not run into Baker on the stairs because he testified that the "officers" (or officers) he met were "plainclothes, like me" (or words to that effect), which does not describe Baker. The "Invisible Man?" We've known about him for years. Just nobody's put together what he did and when, and what opportunities that befell him. The reason? He was "retarded" ... tho' today, we'd know better. You'll just have to (ahem!) "wait for the book." The suspense is killing me. He was retarded but was not Jack Ruby. I guess I have to know this person and that he worked in the TSBD. So I'll have to learn the names and testimonies of people who worked there. Is that right? Or was it a soldier of fortune. It just hit me: the invisible man, retarded -- David Ferrie! who gave as his alibi that he was driving to Texas to go ice skating -- only the weather was extremely bad to drive in. He was with Lee (of Lee and Harvey fame). He was always with Lee, wasn't he? Am I right? Where's my prize? Kathy