Kathleen Collins

Please tell us who the Invisible Man is. Also -- wasn't there an electrical blackout in the TSBD when Kennedy got shot? Suppose the murderer got stuck in an elevator. Some suspects: Mac Wallace of the famous fingerprint on a 6th floor box near the sniper's nest. Jack Ruby wanted to make a statement about the Jews. So he shot Kennedy. The Butler did it. And then the most likely one: They took Hubert H. Humphery out of mothballs and he did the deed. Kathy

I'm with you. I believe in 2 Oswalds. All the research John Armstrong did, only half of it coming to life with that book. I came across something curious the other day. It was a remark somewhere about how people could be fooled into thiniking there's 2 or more Lee Harvey Oswalds. Judyth Vary Baker said that Lee was born in the old creole section of New Orleans, and that there was so much inbreeding there that many men (at least at the time) who came out of there looked like Lee. She also applies this to Lee's "accent." I know Judyth isn't believable, but it gave me cause to wonder. All the photos we've seen. Like the one of LHO in Russia by a river and he's only like 5' tall. Yet he's got the same face! It wasn't "trick photography." He leaves in a Rambler but is arrested and taken out the back of theTexas Theater, while Harvey is arrested and taken out the front. A third Oswald?... Kathy

I live in Florida. There is an air force station near Pensecola. It's known as the US capital of UFOs. People on the beach at night gather around to watch the lights in the sky. Kathy

Someone on this forum asked me where I got my Phil Graham story from. I don't remember what it was, but I found the book today. It's called Katherine Graham: A Personal Story, written by herself. Could it be the one about Phil Graham entering the Oval Office, picking up Kennedy's emergency phone and yelling, "Scramble the Planes!" Kathy

More likely jealous that Rice had a tanker named after her. The Clinton Clan are Corporate insiders and I can't believe they'd do anything much to hurt the bottom-line on any powerful corporate group...they are owned by them!...and won't bite the hand that bribes them. Remember Vince Foster? Remember Clinton wanting to know 2 things when he took over the presidency? He supposedly asked his military men that he wanted to know about the Kennedy Assassination and UFO's. They told him, "You don't have high enough clearance." The same person who told me this also told me there were 200 political murders during the Clinton Admin. I think these things taught the Clintons that the President doesn't run the country. Kathy

Maybe he wants to remain alive, unlike Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin. Kathy

I'm with you, Peter. Lee Oswald, who shot out the sixth floor window, then emerged at the side of the building and got into a Rambler. He was taken to a small airport and flown somewhere -- Cuba? Mexico? But... Poor Harvey Oswald left after the shooting and got stuck in traffic, so found an alternate route to his house. A cop car pulled up in front of his door and hit the horn. Eventually, Harvey gets to the Texas Theater. Cops arrest him, causing a ruckus getting him into the car in front. But out the back door of the Theater, comes another Oswald, handcuffed with 2 congenial cops. Where is the Rambler and do the cops instead drive him to the airport? This is a discrepancy. Did I miss something, Peter in Harvey and Lee by John Armstrong?

I assume that when David says, 'See ya round the hood chump' ... that he is talking about during visiting hours. (smile) Someone please wake me up if he ever post anything related to the JFK assassination ... something like that must only happen once in a lifetime and I don't want to miss it. In your signature, you posted that you uncovered new info on the Kennedy Assassination, which won you the Mary Ferell award. What was it you uncovered? Kathy

It's obviously a fake photo. Why would someone do that? Who knows? Jack, where did you find this picture? Kathy

I know they blackened out a portion of the Grassy Knoll. And then when you see the Rickerby picture, it's so light and sunny. I wonder why they would black out something in the above photograph. Was someone standing there who didn't want to be seen? Kathy

He appears in at least 2 photos and I can't find anything on him. In one photo he looks like he's having a drink as he walks toward the Kennedy Limo. But I believe I've seen a photo of him where it looks like he's holding a sign in front of his abdomen. What did the sign say? In a similar vein, The Cuban, in photos shot from the south knoll (which I've never seen), supposedly makes a fist as the limo nears him, meaning Stop. Then he also makes the Peace sign, which I'm told probably means 2nd attempt. I have tried to find these pictures or learn who the gin and tonic man is, etc. Could someone provide them and any theories you have about them? Kathy

OJ is not a good reference. He subjected himself to trial to protect his son Jason. This is clear to those like me who have studied the evidence. Jack Sidebar: I have read the book OJ Is Guilty, But Not of Murder. and agree that he is Guilty of being an Accessory after the fact. His older son did it, the chef with his knives. Doctor Henry Lee said the killer would have to be covered in blood. OJ was either called to the scene, or happened by it accidentally.

And I, like George Carlin, believe that an Invisible Man lives in the sky and sees everything we do. And that He gave us ten rules by which to live, and if we violate any one of them He will condemn us to an eternity of pain and agony and suffering and burning and terror. And He loves us. -- EDITED TO CORRECT TYPO -- You're OK! Kathy

I don't go back as far as 1963, but since 1969 or so, until he died, I listened to Long John Knebel every night. His show continued for 5+1/2 hours. It started at Midnight. Knebel was known as a hoaxer. Still, I don't think he would joke around about the Kennedy Assassination. Can we get access to the tape? In 1973, I do remember Long John had on the publisher of Marilyn by Norman Mailer. And they talked about Monroe and Bobby, but nothing substantial. In 1974, Knebel had the author of The Life and Curious Death of Marilyn Monroe, Robert Slatzer, to me a disinfo man, now also dead. He was of the belief that Kennedy had her murdered so she wouldn't call a press conference that she was having affairs with them and Govt secrets -- like Castro, the bomb, UFOs, Hoffa, etc. Knebel was very interested in this. Knebel was Republican, btw, and only turned against Nixon when he found out that Nixon cursed! Kathy

And was one of them "guarding" John Lennon on the night of Dec. 8, 1980 -- Jose Perdomo (San Jenis), a survivor of the Bay of Pigs?

David, The Royal Family may be descended from Mohammed, but they're really not British. They're Germans. They made up a name: Windsor. The only true British Royal was Princess Diana. On some geneology site regarding her, she was descended from the Stuarts, who were descendants of the Merovingian Kings, who were descended from the union of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdaline. Kathy

My name is The Quill. Fitting, I'd say. Kathleen Collins

Dear Charles, please don't leave the Forum. I look forward to reading your posts and I think you're invaluable in helping us piece together the Kennedy Assassination. You're so sharp and witty. You can't change the Gary Macks of the world. I think it would be a painful blow to researchers if you took your wisdom and left here. We need your input and we value your opinions and your humor. OK, I'm selfish -- you're a big draw for this forum and I would miss you. Kathy Collins

Kathy...you have misquoted me regarding the Talbot book. What I said was that if the Sixth Floor museum store sells it, IT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE "ESTABLISHMENT". That is, they only sell NON-CONTROVERSIAL NON-CONSPIRACY BOOKS. I did not say it was not a good book. Please quote me correctly. I would not condemn a book I have never seen. Jack Kathy, NOW you know that the above is not true. If you think Brothers is a conspiracy book (and I do) then, see, they DO sell conspiracy books at the 6th Floor Museum Bookstore!!! Hi Kathy: Well apparently, perhaps Gary does not consider "Brothers" to be a conspiracy book...... He has never referred that they sell, such as Weisberg's, which have been reprinted and are available, nor any of Penn Jones, nor Prouty, Dr.J.Fetzer's, has he Meager's I forget...as well as others....But has recommended such a Posner's, that has been sold there for some years.. which is the sorriest book ever written on the assassination, with all it's lies, no other word to call them.. Gary has told me and another, in an email a few years back, that he reads the books and then recommends them to the books store, or not.. There have been many in that not pile...and before I am asked yes I do have the email..... So what it comes down to is what Gary recommends and thinks about a book... B.... So how can we trust a book if it's peddled in Mack's sham shack? I have to find Jack's quote and read it again. I don't know if he or someone said the book was being sold at the 6th Floor monstrosity. Brothers is a great book. The sections about the Military brass make me think of Dr. Strangelove. Gore Vidal always says Kennedy was the worst president because he brought us closer to nuclear war than any other President. Read the book, Gore. It was his military advisors who wanted war. Kennedy did everything he could to keep them from bombing Cuba. And they were afraid they would do so behind his back. It started out by Gary asking me if someone wanted to donate Harvey and Lee by John Armstrong. And it escalated from there. My impression was he wanted the book for the museum but not for sale. Then he came out and contradicted this. Confusion, as usual. Since I have my 2 girls here, Myra and Bernice, I just want to say when I write about certain things, like Obama, if I come across gleeful, I don't mean to be. It might just be how I handle things. And I apologized on this forum for ridiculing Ed O'Hagen. Ed and I go back a few years when he was sending me altered photos of the Kennedys in the limo. I brought this up to my Admin at the time and he told me Ed was altering the pictures himself. When I said something negative to Ed, he wrote to me via email that now his work wasn't being accepted and all the years he spent on it, on and on, and I got so scared I thought he was going to commit suicide. So I championed him on the Forum and then Admin knew what was happening with these drawings he was sending me. It was unsettling to me. I thought he was a practical joker, spoofing those of us who believed in conspiracy. But Admin said no. I know I'm not a heavyweight around here. Kathy

Oswald's brother, Robert, has said on television that the reason Lee (Harvey) shot Kennedy was to make a name for himself, to go down in history as having shot a young president, the most prominent and celebrated man in the world. Now, if this is true, why did Oswald tell the press he didn't shoot anyone and that he was a patsy? You would expeect him to be smiling and acting like a psychopath. Kathy

Of course Gary Mack is entitled to his own opinions. What Gary Mack is *not* entitled to is his own set of facts. Mack has endorsed Gerald Posner's claim that JFK's shirt and jacket were elevated in tandem 2" - 3" entirely above the SBT-required inshoot at the base of JFK's neck. And yet the Nix film and other Dealey Plaza films/photos show JFK's jacket collar dropping to a normal position at the base of JFK's neck on Houston St. One of the first things we learn as very small children is that two disparate, solid objects cannot occupy the same physical space at the same time. And yet it appears to be Gary Mack's "opinion" that JFK's jacket collar and multiple inches of "bunched" shirt and jacket fabric occupied the same physical space at the base of JFK's neck at the same time. Such an "opinion" is contrary to the nature of readily observed reality. The truth of the matter is, that in order to prove the jacket position , we would require photographs of the Jacket at the exact time of the shot in question. We don't have this evidence, things move, including cloth materials, so everything you said is just guesswork..Now that's a fact. Duncan Duncan, doesn't this picture of Kennedy from the side look like it's been photoshopped? It looks to me like someone blotted out the back of his neck, collar and jacket. Kathy Collins P.S. I just discovered that other members caught the black obscurity on the back of President Kennedy's neck. Sorry I repeated it. It's a long thread. But it proves how obvious this embellishment is.

Here is the link: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.ph...amp;hl=brothers That book is seen almost as soon as you walk into the Museum bookstore. I purchased it there, along with "Pictures of the Pain", another excellent book (if nothing else for the photos alone). It is one of the most heavily resourced books on this Forum. There was a book out over 10 years ago. I saw it in a bookstore. I think it was called The Photographic Record of the Assassination of Presiden John F. Kennedy. Me being me, I looked to see if Karyn Kupcinet was mentioned. She was. They had photos of every person remotely connected to the Assassination. But whose picture wasn't there? Her's. Even though she was a member of AFTRA and possibly SAG Acting unions, they couldn't find a picture of her? Thanks for the linky-dink. Kathy Collins

Thanks Mike. A noteworthy blurb from the article you linked to: "This relaxed security was unbelievably stupid, especially in Dallas," Jeff Adams of Berkeley, Calif., said in an e-mail to the Star-Telegram, noting the assassination of President Kennedy in Dallas more than four decades ago. Others said they had recently attended large political events, many for Obama, where security screening was halted. Jeremy Dibbell of Boston said in an e-mail that he attended an Obama event in Boston at which "the same thing happened there. We waited for hours in line as people were screened, and then suddenly everyone was just allowed in without going through any inspection at all." May I have the distinction of being the first to say on this forum that Obama is going to be killed? When I mentioned it, another member said we shouldn't be talking about it because anyone can be reading this Forum and get ideas... When I heard this morning that Obama was in Dallas, I felt like I was going to puke. There is no way the rich families: DuPont, Morgan, Murchison, Rockefeller, Rothschilds, Bush, Hunt, et al, are going to allow a black man with an Arab name, brought up in Islam, get anywhere near the Presidency. I'm surprised no one on this Forum really thought about this happening before today. When I see him on TV I think I'm looking at a dead man. I can't believe he got this far. So I'm bracing myself and nothing will surprise me. Obama is young. So if he doesn't get near enough this time, there's always the next time. Sorry to say it: he's a marked man. Kathy Oh Kathy, you have so many distinctions; this is but the latest. Clearly the topic isn't off limits, because we have a prominent thread on it. What is incredibly offensive, at least to me however, is your gleeful tone when you write off Senator Obama as a dead man walking. Yes, you were the first you were the FIRST. By all means crow about it. Add it to your friggin sig line. I am not gleeful. I'm just seeing it as it is. This guy has had assassination written all over him from the beginning, so I don't know why you were surprised by that newspaper article. I've been told that I'm blunt and honest and that people can't deal with that. I'm sorry, but there's no glee in this. He reminds me of Bobby Kennedy -- doomed. Do you think he's going to get in? They'll kill him at the damn convention. This is what the Kennedy Assassination is all about. The same powers that be; the same MO. Even 9/11. I don't know why you're so emotional about my post. Pray tell, what are my other distinctions? How else did I offend you? Kathy