Kathleen Collins

My blood is boiling. The Kupcinets have always said she was murdered. How can anyone in his/her right mind think Karyn wasn't murdered? You must have been reading James Ellroy, a dark character, a religious fanatic and an admitted pervert. No empty pill bottles were around in the living room. But they were in the bathroom cabinet. She did not hurt herself on a piece of furniture. The interior wounds were too extensive on the left side of her throat. She was murdered via the "sleeper method," in my opinion, which is supposed to be very quick. A man grabs you from behind, gets you into some kind of headlock which closes one or both carotid arteries to the brain and the victim dies. This is entirely consistent with her autopsy results. Irv Kupcinet was quick to anger if anyone suggested his daughter killed herself. As depressed as she was, Karyn didn't do it. Her red bathrobe was lying on a chair in the living room. Obviously, she didn't put it there. Someone turned the TV on for light. She heard noise in the living room and went to check it out. It's possible she never saw the face of her killer. Also, I think there was sexual contact. The killer stripped off her robe. Why would someone go to her door to let someone in and take off her bathrobe? Whether it was connected to the Assassination or not, it was a definite murder. I did not know there was a Wikipedia entry on Karyn. I will look it up, but I did not write it. I've spent years trying to get her noticed by people on the Internet, and even before that. It's possible the killer is dead. There are so many possibilities. But she was murdered. Irv Kupcinet and Essee always considered it a murder. And Kup would be very mad hearing someone repeat that she killed herself. Murder Kathy Collins I learned last night that Karyn went to Palm Springs with Andrew Prine and friends the Assassination weekend. Irv Kupcinet, her father and Chicago columnist, called Paul Dorfman when Ruby shot Oswald. Dorfman was a slight man with a benign demeanor, as Bobby Kennedy described him in The Enemy Within. He was also Hoffa's Chicago ally. Irv tracked down Dorfman in Palm Springs that weekend. Could Dorfman and Karyn Kupcinet have met, interacted? Could Dorfman, a man with powerful connections, have decided to stop Irv's investigation into the Chicago angle of the Kennedy Assassination? Karyn was dead 4 days later. Kathy

My blood is boiling. The Kupcinets have always said she was murdered. How can anyone in his/her right mind think Karyn wasn't murdered? You must have been reading James Ellroy, a dark character, a religious fanatic and an admitted pervert. No empty pill bottles were around in the living room. But they were in the bathroom cabinet. She did not hurt herself on a piece of furniture. The interior wounds were too extensive on the left side of her throat. She was murdered via the "sleeper method," in my opinion, which is supposed to be very quick. A man grabs you from behind, gets you into some kind of headlock which closes one or both carotid arteries to the brain and the victim dies. This is entirely consistent with her autopsy results. Irv Kupcinet was quick to anger if anyone suggested his daughter killed herself. As depressed as she was, Karyn didn't do it. Her red bathrobe was lying on a chair in the living room. Obviously, she didn't put it there. Someone turned the TV on for light. She heard noise in the living room and went to check it out. It's possible she never saw the face of her killer. Also, I think there was sexual contact. The killer stripped off her robe. Why would someone go to her door to let someone in and take off her bathrobe? Whether it was connected to the Assassination or not, it was a definite murder. I did not know there was a Wikipedia entry on Karyn. I will look it up, but I did not write it. I've spent years trying to get her noticed by people on the Internet, and even before that. It's possible the killer is dead. There are so many possibilities. But she was murdered. Irv Kupcinet and Essee always considered it a murder. And Kup would be very mad hearing someone repeat that she killed herself. Murder Kathy Collins

Fossett is hanging out with Amelia Earhart and Wrong Way Corrigan. BK And living on D.B. Cooper's money. Kathy

I think there's a lot more to the story than that. Dorothy covered Audie more than once in gossip type articles in the Washington post on Murphy back in 1954 - one called 'Audie goes a-patchin.' I don't know what occurred on the episode of What's My Line, but if Dorothy didn't figure out who he was - well, that's like 'Quiz Show.' If there's anything to be said for the book published by Gary Weans, Audie Murphy came into possession of some very significant top secret documents, by way of John Tower, concerning the assassination, in 1964. See Chapter 44 of 'There's a fish in the courthouse.' Murphy's involvement in trying to spring Jimmy Hoffa is also worth noting, in that friends said he was looking to tap into the Teamster's pension fund [to save his failing businesses] - in the same way Trafficante and others had. Murphy died in a plane crash which could be deemed suspicious. Wean certainly thought so. Murphy travelled frequently to Ventura County, was friends with Bill Decker, had some honorary title with the Ventura Police department, and frequented Oxnard - the location of the phone call warning of the impending assassination of JFK, 20 minutes beforehand. Murphy was on Mae Brussel's 'Mysterious Deaths' list. Bizarre factoid - Murphy gave the foreward to the film 'War is hell' - which was showing 11/22/63 at the Dallas Theatre, built by Howard Hughes, where Oswald sought to find his contact that fateful afternoon. Murphy was 'in the music business.' All that remains is one clue that Murphy may have turned over a mysterious package to Dorothy Kilgallen, and you'd have more than enough motive to exterminate her and anyone even vaguely connected to her. I keep expecting to find an Audie Murphy / Howard Hughes connection, but haven't yet beyond the fact that Hughes stole Murphy's gal back in 1946. Maybe Lee Israel knows something about an Audie Murphy / Dorothy Kilgallen connection? Here's another weird connection. Karyn Kupcinet was in a film with Audie Murphy, The Wild and the Innocent, 1959. She appeared under the name Tammy Windsor. Her father was a very classy guy with his own talk show and column in the Chicago Sun-Times: Irv Kupcinet. He was as great as Dorothy Kilgallen and Walter Winchell. When his daughter was murdered 6 days after President Kennedy, Walter Winchell went to Hollywood to find the killer. He didn't and the murder went unsolved. Irv was digging deep into the Chicago angle of the assassination. She might have been killed to shut him up. Such killers will not kill the person, but will kill someone the person loves.

Hey, you're deep, Chuck. Kathy

Then what did your quote mean? Kathy

I saw Geraldo last night. I can't believe what a traitor he turned into. Firstly, only LHO shot President Kennedy: He says that every once in awhile and I'd like to put my fist throught the TV. Now he calls people who want an investigation into 9/11 "misfits" and some other names. He is a CIA media asset and I'm disgusted with him. He won the job of Foreign Coorespondent by saying on another network, appropos to nothing, that LHO killed President Kennedy; there was no conspiracy, all the time shaking his head in disbelief that someone would think otherwise. Bingo! He had a better job, a much increased salary, was important enough to send overseas to cover the Afghanistan war and had a new wife. Kathy

The only person who could conceivably have a poisoned projectile is the Umbrella Man, who opened his umbrella twice, as the Cuban held up 2 fingers. Was it a mere signal to someone to start shooting or for the driver to stop? Or was the umbrella a CIA-invented "gun" of sorts? Kathy

That sums it up. George H.W. Bush had a hand in President Kennedy's death, imo. And now his son had a hand in John Jr.'s death in order to become President. You know, earn his stripes. Hot on the campaign trail, George W was nowhere to be found that weekend. I can't help but feel suspicious about GHW Bush in the air force, bailing out and letting his 2 fellow servicemen stay in the airplane. He says he told them to bail out, but they couldn't hear him and they died. Was this a rite of passage for Bush Sr.? Kathy

How about Oswald's children? Their innocent father was falsely branded as the assassin of the president by the government, media, and the sheeple. Jack If I may interject... Harvey Oswald's 2 daughters went through hell in their schooldays (reported in a scandal sheet -- the Star, Enquirer, Globe) and I am told "Uncle" Robert Oswald has never visited them. Is that because he's mean and angry? No, it's because they aren't related. Harvey was not Robert Oswald's brother. Harvey was a Russian lookalike, in my opinion, who perfected his English in Russia, with the help of someone British, and after a few years, he sounded like an American. There are 3 Oswald audios on the Internet. One is of him learning English in Russia. And 2 other audios exist of him on the radio and, of course, at the Dallas police station. After the assassination, Robert commented that when Oswald (his "brother") returned from Russia, he was shocked at how much hair he had lost. Was this to obscure that the Russian agent was not the same guy who left for Russia? Kathy

Uncharacteristically childish, from a man whose contributions on every other subject are shrewd and worth-having. You're better than this. Distance from front-seated Greer to (an elevated) President in the opposite rear corner? Point-blank? Not quite. But a damn sight easier shot than from distance with a rifle. And as to traces of powder etc on Kennedy's clothing, remind me how carefully that particular piece of evidence was preserved? Assuming Greer did shoot Kennedy, and Kennedy was facing forwards immediately prior to the head shot, we would expect to find a left front entrance and a right rear exit. This is exactly what we do find: The sound: A.J. Millican: “It sounded like a .45 automatic, or a high-powered rifle,” 19WCH486. S.M. Holland: “It would be like you’re firing a .38 pistol right beside a shotgun, or a .45 right beside a shotgun,” Josiah Thompson. Six Seconds in Dallas, p.84. Remember the topography of Elm, Peter - it dips and slants: the assassination scene was not "in the center of everyone's visual focus." It was a sparsely populated stretch at the motorcade's fag-end; and the occupants of the vehicle, not to mention the following vehicles, further hindered clear line of sight for potential eyewitnesses. I remember seeing an autopsy photo of President Kennedy with a definite hole in his front, left hairline. Could someone post that or at least say if they saw it too? Kathy

Nor will you, Bill, the film's a fake! How do you arrive that this conclusion? Instead of 'faking' this film, wouldnt it have been better for them to destroy it and have no video record? Seems to me without the Z film, there is no conspiracy at all...it dies on Nov. 22, 1963. I agree with you totally. Why keep that film? Why make that film? This is the one point of the assassination that I don't understand. Kathy

Ah, interesting info Kathy, thank you. I wonder what percentage of books on the assassination of President Kennedy are self-published. I know Carroll and Graf publish books on Assassination-related subjects. They're a respectable publisher. But other than that... Oswald's Tale was published by a biggie, Random House, because of the author, Norman Mailer. Mailer couldn't prove a conspiracy. Someone told me Random House was a CIA-media asset. I know Viking published DeLillo's novel (which I haven't read yet), Libra, about Oswald, in 1988; the same press Jackie Onassis worked for and possibly left because of critics like John Leonard. He wrote, "Someone should be ashamed of herself," because Viking was going to publish a novel based on Chappaqquiddick. (Jackie went to work for Doubleday.) It seems to me that Robert Dorff self-published either by printer or using one of the self-publishing entities around today, and is selling his book on his own Internet site. Kathy

Myra, it's self-published, which doesn't say it's bad. Sometimes it's hard to get certain subject matters published. I belong to 2 writer's workshops and they all self-publish like mad -- I don't and won't -- and walk around happy. The books are printed but not edited. Sometimes you can get a decent paperback cover. They give you a small amount of author copies and you have to pay half-price for every other book you want. I've seen novels costing $30 bucks. They don't promote you or your book. I don't even think they pay you. You pay them. I'm talking about Publish America, i Universe, ex libris. Kathy

I link it to 9/11 because I believe the Elite of this country were behind 9/11 (as they were behind the Kennedy Assassination), and not Arabs, at least not alone. Kathy

Scary? No. I have great powers of reasoning, as all will attest. But really, Tim, what if those bombs had been dropped? And now they're going to have a standdown? A standdown was in effect on 9/11. That's why it's scary. Suppose we need them that day. Kathy

For more "evidence" that Jack Ruby is alive: http://coverthistory.blogspot.com/2005/08/...rst-became.html http://coverthistory.blogspot.com/2005/09/...the-secret.html I remember reading this in the Globe. There's a joke scandal sheet, Weekly World News, where they had a story that Oswald had only recently died. As a centerfold they have Oswald after his autopsy, sewn up, but with hair missing and white hair remaining -- he's obviously aged. But the most amazing thing was Oswald still had the black eye the cops gave him back in 1963. Kathy

"Nuclear Bombs Mistakenly Flown Over US By PAULINE JELINEK,AP Posted: 2007-09-05 23:11:46 WASHINGTON (AP) - A B-52 bomber was mistakenly armed with six nuclear warheads and flown for more than three hours across several states last week, prompting an Air Force investigation and the firing of one commander, Pentagon officials said Wednesday. The mistake was so serious that President Bush and Defense Secretary Robert Gates were quickly informed and Gates has asked for daily briefings on the Air Force inquiry, said Defense Department press secretary Geoff Morrell. He said Gates was assured that "the munitions were part of a routine transfer between the two bases and at all times they were in the custody and control of Air Force personnel and at no time was the public in danger." Rep. Ike Skelton , chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, called the mishandling of the weapons "deeply disturbing" and said the committee would press the military for details. Rep. Edward J. Markey , a senior member of the Homeland Security Committee, said it was "absolutely inexcusable." "Nothing like this has ever been reported before and we have been assured for decades that it was imposs According to the officials, the weapons are designed with multiple safety features that ensure the warheads don't accidentally detonate. Arming the weapons requires a number of stringent protocols and authentication codes that must be followed for detonation. And they are designed to withstand a significant impact, including an aircraft crash, without detonating. The Air Combat Command has ordered a command-wide stand down on Sept. 14 to review procedures, officials said. They said there was minimal risk to crews and the public because of safety features designed into the munitions." --How scary is this? And the Air Combat Command has been given a command standdown and they even announce the date. Kathy

Why is it that Oswald always looked better dead than alive? It looks to me that the man in the light colored suit and hat (sorry, I'm not sure of his name) is still handcuffed to Harvey Oswald. Kathy

Myra, I just came across this link by accident. Possibly someone has already posted it, but the website is still under construction. The thrust of the site is that Nelson Rockerfeller was behind the President's assassination: http://www.reformation.org/kennedy-assassination.html **************** I also have a blog, which deals with many things, but I consider it a source for those who are interested in Donald O. Norton. Norton claimed he was Lee Oswald (Harvey was shot by Ruby) and sent Mae Brussels money he called "conscience" money. Also photos of Ralph Geb. Both men are pictured as yesterday and today. Also, actress' significance to the Kennedy Assassination; named by some as the "first witness after Oswald to die" -- Karyn Kupcinet. My theory is that she was killed to stop her father from investigating the Chicago angle of the Crime of the Century. It remains an unsolved murder. thecloakofdarkness.blogspot.com Kathy

In my gossip capacity, I recall reading in one of the scandal sheets that she was semi-concious after the accident and that her last words were: "Why? I was so happy." Can't prove these were her last words, but it is a poignant statement, even if someone made it up, which is probably the case. Other stories said she asked that one of her sisters take care of her children. Tune in next time. Kathy Collins, Forum Gossip

I have the sneaky feeling that this "theory" had something to do with my thoughts on the Assassination. There was a Jesuit, Fr. Malachy Martin, who wrote books about the Vatican and it would curl your hair. Also, I believe Pope John Paul I was murdered, poisoned because he was too liberal like Kennedy. I'm going to try to get access to Martin's books. They came out around 1980. I do believe the Popes and certain Cardinals knew what was coming. The nuns sure as hell didn't. They blamed the Cubans. The old bitch teaching my class would stop talking, look at a Spanish kid and say, "Why don't you go back to where you came from?" A pleasant world. And a great religion. Kathy

Charles, What a great Line! Kathy Beckett Thanks for giving me such insightful answers. I had the crown put on today -- And I'm still alive to talk about it! Kathy Collins

I think that's the very motive. Kathy

Tomorrow I have an appointment with a dentist, Dr. Ken Martin. He had sent me to an endodontist for several root canals. Martin found a cavity, my first one in years. And he is going to put the permanent crown on one of my teeth, same side. I am still having sensitivity there nevertheless. Anyway I found this flyer on him in his office. He has had much education and affiliations. And he is a very wealthy man. What worried me though was that he belongs to the Masons. What should I know about him? What do the Masons do? This is in Florida. Kathy