Karl Kinaski

Quote Joseph McBride Originally Posted by Joseph McBride on DP Forum Mary Ferrell once tried to recommend to me John K. Lattimer'sLINCOLN AND KENNEDY: MEDICAL AND BALLISTIC COMPARISONS OF THEIR ASSASSINATIONS as the best study of the medical evidence in the JFK assassination. I had read it, so this was one of the moments when I was alerted to her true nature as a disinformation specialist. close quote Judyth Baker discovered that somebody at the Ferrell Foundation is altering evidence: quote JVB (about her work at Reillys/NOLA with Oswald...) ...I have 11. Hired the same day, May 9, 1963, by Wm. B. Reilly as was Lee Oswald. Started at Standard Coffee, a small subsidiary to Reilly, the same day. Moved, one week later, on the same day, May 16, to Reilly from Standard with Lee. My initial ‘J’ is on most of Lee’s time cards, though two “J’s’ were recently erased at the Mary Ferrell Foundation site (the originals as in National Archives remain unchanged). close quote KK

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DVP is not allone. Here is another WCR parrot. quote: George H.W. Bush’s Eulogy for Gerald R. Ford The New York Times Published: January 2, 2007 Following is the transcript of the eulogy for former President Gerald R. Ford delivered today by former President George H.W. Bush in Washington, as recorded by The New York Times. EXCERPT… After a deluded gunman assassinated President Kennedy, our nation turned to Gerald Ford and a select handful of others to make sense of that madness. And the conspiracy theorists can say what they will, but the Warren Commission report will always have the final definitive say on this tragic matter. Why? Because Jerry Ford put his name on it and Jerry Ford’s word was always good. close quote But wait...there is a little difference between DVP and Poppy Bush: Poppy Bush is grinning, when he says: "After a deluded gunman assassinated President Kennedy..." here KK

DVP is the busiest man out of the Lone-Nut-xxxxx-factory. Several days ago such a government sponsored factory was discovered in Russia. Agenda: to make Putin appear a hero and smear all other politicians on twitter, facebook and hundreds of blogs and forums...a building was located, where the sole job of dozens of employees is to sit in front of there government computers and trolling all day long...they are well paid for Russian conditions: 800 Euro a month... Though I don't no where the Lone-Nut-xxxxx-Factory in the US is located, I know were the Lone-Nut-Headquarters are. It is called 6th floor museum. KK

Karl: You write: "IMO JFKs proposal for a joint effort ( USA-SU)to reach the moon, in his UNO Speech on 20.9.1963 had nothing to do with an alien presence on earth. . ." To which I respond: How do you know? Don't you think its a bit extraordinary that--with all the Cold War tensions--JFK would 'reach out' like that to the Soviet Union? And then, look at the NSAM he wrote, and the people to whom it was addressed. Don't you find all this a bit, er, unusual? DSL David It is my understanding, that Kennedy offered a joint space program to Khrushchev first at the Vienna Meeting in May 1961. Khrushchev then showed no interest. The Chairman was about to change his mind in the fall of 1963. (Opposed were James Webb and nearly the whole NASA staff.) With Kennedy dead and buried, that idea was buried too. After Khrushchevs disempowerment, 11 month after Kennedys assassination, both sites decided to stage a race to the moon. I do not now how to insert aliens here. KK

If one jumps to 43.min 00 sec of the first video one can watch very interesting stuff. On a blackboard the Dallas WFAA-Newsmann points out nearly the correct position of the picket fence shooter...indicating JFK was shot from the front. KK PS The TSDB is not mentioned in that short sequence. Nor is it painted on that blackboard...

Mr. Caddy: did you believe Howard Hunt, when he told you in 1975 that Kennedy was killed because he was about to give away the USA most secret secret, the ALIEN PRESENCE? Yeah? or No? KK

pump Douglas Caddy debunked...he ist the JFK alien guy...isn't he?

It looks so as if Douglas Caddy is here to play the UFO card....

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Mr. Caddy: did you believe Howard Hunt, when he told you in 1975 that Kennedy was killed because he was about to give away the USA most secret secret, the ALIEN PRESENCE? KK

IMO JFKs proposal for a joint effort ( USA-SU)to reach the moon, in his UNO Speech on 20.9.1963 had nothing to do with an alien presence on earth, in which you, Mr. Caddy, seem to believe. You seem to believe that JFK was too convinced of such a presence, and you seem to believe Howard Hunt, who told you in 1975, JFK was murdered, because he was about to give away the greatest secret of the USA to the Sowjets: the knowledge of an alien presence on earth. O la la... Anyway, the first part of your Y-Tube interview (the way you met Howard Hunt and became involved with Watergate), is interesting. KK

IMO Oswald was at the 2nd floor during the shooting. Geneva Hine told Robert Groden: quote: http://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php?topic=1423.15%3Bwap2 (On September 17th Robert Groden made the following remarks in the course of a radio interview with Len Osanic: I actually found a woman some years ago. She was terrified. She did not want to come forward. And she finally agreed to give an interview, and I did interview her. When the shots actually went off, she was talking to Lee Oswald on the second floor. […] We always assumed that Lee had the change, that he had had the change for the machine. He didn’t. He went into the office across from the snack room with a dollar bill and asked for change. He said, “No pennies, please.” And, as the change was being counted out into his hand, the shots went off. And they looked at each other, this woman and Lee, and [asked], “What was that?” Backfires, firecrack[ers], who knew? He got the rest of the change, walked back across the hall, bought the Coke and then just a little over a minute later there was a gun in his ribs held by Officer Baker. Lee had an airtight alibi. He could not possibly have done this. She told this story to the Warren Commission. They told her to keep her mouth shut. And she did. She told very few people. Very few people. I was one of the few that she did. So I got to speak to her because I had a friend who knew a friend of hers. I had to promise her I would never reveal any of this until after she was gone. And now she is. The whole story, including her name, will be in the next book. He must surely be talking about Geneva Hine. close quote Maybe after that, or shortly before, Oswald was watching out of one of the three westwindows oft that floor. ) You can exclude the first window, because it was the ladies toilet. The middle window was the mens toilet. The last westside-2nd window is a window, near the stairways. In the animation below (credit Martin Hinrichs) you can see that window which goes to the parking lot behind the picket fence... He then heart Truly/Baker hollering: Where is the elevetor and got back into the snack-room. Doing that Baker, the figure in Hinrichs animation, came to the 2nd floor and saw him, the way pointed out in that animation... Oswald wasn't out of breath, he was calm, he had a coke in his hand, when Baker confronted him. After Baker went upstairs, Oswald crossed the office section, passed Reid, and went out to the front door, where he was standing together with Bill Shelley (Oswalds own words, fritz notes)several minutes, and he then entered a Nash Rambler. (Witness Roger Craig.), which Oswald believed belonged to the Paines. KK

Fact brain, put in Formalin and in a medical container, it was given to RFK, from the White House, among other assassination related items in 1965. When RFK donated some of the items to the National- Archives, the brain was NOT amongst them. Quote from Lancer and Lace site: To make a long story short Robert Kennedy in April 1965 had autopsy material that was at the White House sent to Evelyn Lincoln for safe keeping at the National Archive. In the footlocker she notice a steel medical container that apparently contained JFK’s brain and blood slides. She did not open the container. About a month later Robert Kennedy had the container picked up by his secretary where it remained in the possession of RFK although was never seen by anyone else. Many conspiracy theorists have said the RFK ”stole” JFK brain. Contrary to what conspiracy theorists imply once the autopsy was done JFK’s body (which would include his brain) became property of his next of kin (Jackie). His body WAS NOT the property of the government even if he was the president. As one of the executors of JFK’s estate (the other two were Jackie and Teddy) Robert has a right to the brain, once the autopsy was done. It is believed that this box seen by RFK actually contained his brain and the blood slides and was buried with JFK. The box was seen prior to the interment but not after. close quote The obvious explanation IMO is: the brain was in the White House till 1965. Then it came into the possession of the Kennedy family, and on 14. March 1967, at the highs of the Garrison investigation it was buried together with Kennedys casket, which was re-buried that night. This remained a secret and when Cyril Wecht in 1972 demanded the brain for further investigation, N-Archives told him it has vanished. KK

@Ron Ecker. A short night-Exhumation ( no need to open the casket, just the small container) and a little DNA Test would help answer that riddle... PS Three, or four years ago, Robert Groden bragged he knew the location of Kennedys brain. Down to the present day, he never named the location. KK

Bugliose/Armstrong - is there any difference? Gary Mack about Bugliosis book, quote Dallas Morning News. June the 9. 2015 “What this book and others like it will do is provide a resource to discover answers. I often suggest to people that part of finding out what happened to President Kennedy is learning what did not happen. My responsibility is to know all sides of these issues. And the beauty of Vince’s book is that he has given people a place to go, a place to start when they have a question.” close quote Neither Bugliosis nor Armstrongs book are a good starting point. Bugliosis Book is the opposite of a START. It is a deadlock. That LN-Bible. Just like the Armstrong book, HARVEY AND LEE - which is a deadlock for CTers. That CTer Bible. (For a small minority of CTers: Hargrove, Jack White †, David Josephs...and Doug Weldon †) KK

http://lancer-lace.tumblr.com/post/102928011087/bev61-there-is-an-interesting-story-about-his Doug Horne tells us, when RFK get the medical- preserved brain of his brother, among other assassination-related items, he never gave it back to the government...as the other items. Is it in that little Container (link)? The date of JFKs second burial was, I think 14.3.1967...in the midst of the Garrison investigation... KK PS

If you are a H&L devotee, you must draw the conclusion, that Lillian Murret and Dutz must have also known about both "Harvey" and "Lee" along with Robert, his brother; Marina, his wife; and even Marguerite, his mother! Yet none of them has ever breathed a word about it! Omerta eh? KK

quote Tracy Parnell ( http://http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/parnell/3key.htm ) 3. Oswald Exhumation. In 1981, the body of LHO was exhumed in order to disprove the theory of Michael Eddowes whose book, The Oswald File, postulated a Soviet look-alike was buried in the LHO grave. The body was positively identified primarily by dental records as that of Oswald. That killed Eddowes' theory but interestingly once again Armstrong's theory was defeated by an event that predated it. Although the Norton team's primary charge was the use of dental records, they could not help but notice the obvious presence of a mastoidectomy defect on the left side of the head that corresponded with the one LHO was known to have. The team noted the defect in their report and also photographed it for the record. The problem for Armstrong is that the body Norton looked at was supposed to be "Harvey" while it was "Lee" who had the mastoid operation. So once again the Armstrong theory is shown to be wrong and totally disproved. close quote KK

Harvey and Lee By W. Tracy Parnell Armstrongs book debunked

quote James Fetzer Judith in Exile thread # 1251 Armstrong reported that both had attended Beauregard Junior High School, but that "Harvey" had left at the end of 5th grade, while "Lee" showed up at the start of the school year for 6th grade. Given his aggressive tendencies--not so much of starting fights but of ending them--the story is related of his having taken a punch from a classmate and losing a tooth! That all sounds fine, where "Lee"'s missing tooth henceforth distingishes him from "Harvey". But the story went on to explain that Lillian Murret remembered the incident and had paid the the dental visit. That was very peculiar, because Lillian was the aunt of "Harvey", not of "Lee", so what was she doing paying for "Lee"'s dental work? close quote "Lee" losing a tooth at Beauregard Junior High. Lillian Murret, "Harvey's" aunt, remembered paying for his visit to the dentist. Are we now to believe that Lillian and Dutz Murret knew both "Harvey" and "Lee" ??? KK

Gary Mack about Bugliosis book, quote Dallas Morning News. June the 9. 2015 Gary Mack, the curator at The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza, told me when I wrote the story on Vince’s book that he considered it a monumental achievement. “No book will ever put to rest the belief that there was a conspiracy to kill President Kennedy,” Mack said at the time. “What this book and others like it will do is provide a resource to discover answers. I often suggest to people that part of finding out what happened to President Kennedy is learning what did not happen. My responsibility is to know all sides of these issues. And the beauty of Vince’s book is that he has given people a place to go, a place to start when they have a question.” close quote

The Judyth in EXILE thread of this forum is worth reading because there Jim Fetzer and Vary-Baker are ragging the HARVEY AND LEE BS...and Jack White, defending the HARVEY AND LEE BS, appears like a cornered rat... Fetzer hat das Buch (H&L) zerfetzt! KK PS Armstrong and his cronies are living in a historical parallel-universe...