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  1. @Harry J. Dean That cute and handsome guy? Kidding?
  2. Maybe for anomalies like the "frozen lamppost" etc. the ARRB Zapruder Film test shooting ( November 1997) was sabotaged. It's a funny story. Perpetrators: David Marwell Jeremy Gunn Rollie Zavada Tom Samoluk Quote: David Lifton PIG ON LEASH: Horne Requests Test with Orignial Camerai Doug Horne knew what needed to be done: that film should be run through the Zapruder camera, in a test conducted at Dealey Plaza, preferably when the lighting was the same, and such test film be compared with the Zapruder film. It didn’t take a photo expert to understand why this should be done: a match between the test film and the Zapruder film would be powerful evidence that the Zapruder film was a genuine original; contrarywise, any mismatch might be probabtive, even definitive, on the issue of whether the film in evidence was not taken by the Zapruder camera. Neither David Marwell nor Jeremy Gunn wanted to do any such tests. Marwell looked with complete disdain at the notion that the Zapruder film might be a forgery. He said he had experience in college, either on the newspaper or in a photography club, with contact printing, and he just didn’t see how the film could be inauthentic. He kept bringing up the small size of an 8 mm film, saying: “You’d need engraving tools.” As Doug observed later, he simply failed to inform himself about optical editing technology. Gunn was a different matter. When Marwell left the ARRB, and the problem was passed to Gunn, the problem was political. Gunn did not have good relations with the five Board members, who—Doug tells me—thought of him as a closet assassination buff (and he was, in some ways). The Board members were essentially conservative, and Gunn knew they would never approve doing a test in Dealy Plaza; that their fear would be a New York Times headine, “ARRB Suspects Zapruder Film Forgery”. Doug thought their fears were completely exaggerated. It was well within the rights of the ARRB to investigate the provenance of any assassination record, and “record” could be more important that the visual record of the Zapruder film? When Marwell departed as Exec Director to take outside employment Gunn became Exec Director as well as General Counsel. This was the autumn of 1997. One day, Doug locked horns with Gunn on this issue. (...) Samoluk Goes to Dallas But let‘s return to Samoluk in November, 1997. It was November, 1997 when Samoluk went to Dallas, tasked with the job of taking pictures from Zapruder’s perch on November 22, something he really didn’t want to do, because Dealey Plaza can be a zoo on assassination anniversaries. Meanwhile, Rollie had sent a camera via Federal Express; it was loaded with film, and with directions, in a box to the ARRB in Washington; and now, in Dallas, Samoluk retired to his hotel room, and opened the box. He pulled out the camera, pressed the trigger, to make sure it would run, and nothing happened. He tried again. Nothing. Experimenting a bit in the hotel room, Samoluk became convinced that the camera was jammed, and gave up on the project. Upon returning to Washington, Doug ran over to him when he appeared at the ARRB offices, and asked excitedly (“like a puppy dog,” recalls Doug): “Did you conduct the test?” “With a sheepish look on his face,” recalls Doug, “he replied, ‘No, I didn’t, the friggin’ camera jammed.’” “What do you mean it jammed?” said Doug. “Well, either it jammed or the batteries were no good!”, replied Samoluk. “What do you mean, batteries?” said Doug, growing increasingly upset. “This camera doesn’t have batteries, you wind it with a big gigantic key that is on the side of the camera.” “And his jaw dropped open, his eyes got big, he got this ‘oh xxxx’ look on his face.” Doug called Rollie and confirmed that there were no batteries, and that Rollie had not wound the camera before he sent it to the Review Board. Rollie had sent a long list of operating instructions; but nowhere did it say ”Wind the camera.”ii “This was keystone cops, man, USG style,” says Doug, reflecting on the experience. Close Quote
  3. There is another good point in regard to this topic made by John Armstrong( I admit he digged out a lot of valuable details, although I don't buy his HARVEY and LEE theorie), that is: The Money order from Oswald to Kleins to purchase the Carcano (or one of the three 🙂 shown in this thread), was never cashed. Armstrongs conclusion, quote: "The easiest way to show ()that the rifle was never ordered or purchased by LHO is simply to look into the Warren Volumes at that money order. Once you see that it has never been cashed at a bank ( thee money order had some stamps missing)(...) you don't have a cashed money order you don't have a purchase." We have three different rifles never purchased by Oswald, at last not by the money order shown in the Warren Volumes. Source Len Osanics "50 Reasons for fifty years, ep. 39 ...
  4. If you watch that film below, when the lamppost comes into sight, compare it to the firewall. There are dark spots on the firewall. When the lamppost first appears, there is one dark spot (of the firewall, actually holes in that wall) to the left side of the top a the lamppost, when the cam is further following the car, and the lamppost disappears to the left, there are three dark spots at the left side of the lamp. The lamppost is moving to the left ... thats the parallax effect. A natural law. You can't see that natural law in the Zapruder film. The Zapruder film is "supernatural". A fake.
  5. Pumped: Everyone with any cam standing on Zapruders pedestal can prove, that the Zapruder film is a fake ... That parallax movement of the lamppost compared to the firewall while following with your cam a moving object on Elm Street (a car), is a natural effect. This natural effect is absent in the Zapruder Film. The Zapruder Film does not show any lamppost movement as a result of the natural law of parallax movements. The Zapruder Film is is a fake.
  6. @ Bart Kamp Two bodys??? Maybe ... but since there is no motorcade in your pic, its impossible to fix the moment it was made ... the same problem you have with the Dillard pic (IMO a fake) there is no motorcade in that pic, therefore you can't figure out the exact moment in time when it was made ... @ To all: The pic posted by me is a still out of the Robert Hughes film ... which BTW is badly cut ( a lot of frames are missing) and therefore manipulated like all the other films of the assassination. Some originals are out there in the unknown or destroyed down to the present day: (Nix-film.) Others never shown, for instance: the film of CBS Cameraman Thomas J. Craven who was sitting in the same follow up car as Wiegman. What we have, on You Tube and in some archives is a bunch of distorted, curt and manipulated film, non of us saw any uncut original version of any film of the assassination ... film analyses of the assassination is rather a useless business, other than realizing that what we got is useless junk ... where is the Zapruder original, where is the Nix-Original, where are the uncut versions of the Wiegmann, the Doorman the Muchmore film? It's a morass. Isn't it? There is another problem with Jarman, Norman and Williams: Their working place where they had their lunch and their tools, was on the sixth floor behind the westernmost window, where they were laying a new plywood floor. Why they would go a floor down and to the opposite site of the building where they had no business at all, to watch the parade where a southern live oak is blocking the view on elm street and where one could not make the observations, they described to the Warren Commission? (Kennedys reactions to the shots for example ...) ... I believe Jarman, Norman and Williams where watching the parade from the westernmost window of the sixth floor, where they were their working place was ( laying plywood under the supervision of the suspicious William Shelley, who was out in the front at the time of the shooting and with whom Oswald was standing around after the shooting, according to the FRITZ NOTES) ) , where they (J, N and Williams) had their tools and their lunch and the shooter they heard above them was on the seventh floor, in exact the same window the Rowlands saw a rifleman minutes prior to the shooting ... this man was on the seventh floor in the westernmost window. He was firing twice and was not Oswald. IMO this was the erect standing shooter Brennan saw, unless the Warren Commission brainwashed him. Note: The seventh floor is the only floor where a shooter can stand erect, while shooting as observed by Brennan. Everybody can prove that by his own. The building is still there. 😉 Erect Shooter in window: Only possible at seventh floor. KK
  7. should have been in these windows immediately before the shots rang out according to the Warren Commission. Where are they? I can't see anybody.
  8. Oswald had access to planes. The pilots which flew him, wherever his handlers want him to be, were Alexander Rorke jr. who disappeared with his plane in Sep. 1963, Hugh Ward who died in a plane-crash in the summer of 1964, and David Ferrie who died in February 1967 under suspicious circumstances. Acc. to Judyth Baker Oswald traveled to Mexico City by bus (first leg of his journey, where he was seen on that bus), and then by plane:, (that's why nobody saw him on the second leg. The Odio incident (in Dallas) at the time of Oswalds Mexico-Trip, is possible, considering a plane ... Again: Oswald had access to planes ... in other words: to explain Oswalds movements one must add the third dimension. ✈️ kinAski
  9. No. IMO these Operations (get Kennedy, get Castro plots) where completely separated. After the Cuban Missile Crisis IMO all Get Castro Plots fell in the category "illusionary warfare". To fool and soothe Cuban exiles and to fool low level agents like Oswald for purposes unknown to them. IMO the development of a bio-weapon in NOLA (aggressive cancer) was real. But it was not meant to kill Castro, but told so Ochsner, JVB., Shermann, Ferrie and Oswald to put them into a big trap after they smashed Oswald on Nov. 22.11.63 blaming him for a completely other thing, the killing of Kennedy. "Lone Nut Oswald" is the Cover for TWO plots: Castro/Cancer (illusionary warfare) ... Kennedy/Guns (the real thing ...) in other words. Oswald was involved in a US government plot to kill somebody, but it was Castro not Kennedy ... see Roccas statement on April 1. 1975 ? SECRET CIA FILE #104-10268-10005 ? (Wrong file number): ANGLETON'S CIA RIGHT-HAND MAN RAYMOND ROCCA TELLS WARREN COMMISSION MEMBER BELIN THAT LEE OSWALD WAS IN MEXICO CITY BECAUSE HE WAS INVOLVED IN A PLOT TO KILL FIDEL CASTRO kinAski
  10. Unfortunately I can't find the document. Maybe the file number is wrong. A summary of the Belin-Rocca conversation was posted on Facebook in 2017, by Judyth Baker. Thats the summary, quote: EYES ONLY' SECRET CIA FILE #104-10268-10005: (Wrong file Nummer?) Belin-Rocca-Conversation: 1.April 1975 ... 1. ANGLETON'S CIA RIGHT-HAND MAN RAYMOND ROCCA TELLS WARREN COMMISSION MEMBER BELIN THAT LEE OSWALD WAS IN MEXICO CITY BECAUSE HE WAS INVOLVED IN A PLOT TO KILL FIDEL CASTRO. (just as I (JVB)have been telling you since 1999). IN THIS DOCUMENT, WE LEARN THAT: 1. THE CIA KNEW LEE OSWALD WENT TO MEXICO CITY IN A PLOT TO KILL CASTRO. 2. [HISTORY: SINCE CIA'S ANGLETON HAD BEEN IN CHARGE OF LEE'S FAKE DEFECTION, ANGLETON'S "CLOSEST FRIEND", RAYMOND ROCCA, WANTS TO SEE HOW MUCH THE WARREN COMMISSION WAS TOLD ABOUT OSWALD.] 3. THE COMMISSION HAD SEALED UP SECRET RECORDS IT HAD RECEIVED FROM A DIFFERENT BRANCH OF THE CIA (ORIGINALLY FOR 75 YEARS). 4. ANGLETON WAS PARANOID AND DID NOT WANT ANY BLAME LAID ON HIS DEPARTMENT. 5. ROCCA WANTS TO GO ON RECORD THAT HIS DEPARTMENT WAS NOT MADE AWARE OF WHAT INFORMATION THE WARREN COMMISSION WAS GIVEN, OR HOW HIGH UP IT WENT. 6. ROCCA LEARNS THAT HELMS HIMSELF, HEAD OF THE CIA, FED THE WARREN COMMISSION THE CIA'S PUBLIC VERSION OF THINGS, NOT THE TRUTH. 7. HE TELLS BELIN HIS DEPARTMENT WAS NEVER MADE AWARE OF WHAT THE COMMISSION WAS TOLD. Close Quote IMO after the Cuban Missile Crisis the "higher circles" abandoned their plan to kill Castro- Kennedy had to go. For that reason, their agents (Dulles, Angleton, Rocca etc.) put Oswald in an "illusionary warfare" plot to kill Castro, to compromise him, when accused of killing Kennedy. In DPDs custody Oswald was caught in a trap. Not because he was part of the plot to kill Kennedy ( on the contrary, he was part of a team to save Kennedy), but of his deep involvement in a plot to kill Castro. That was the main reason, he was sent to MC: To make him believe, he was a key player in a plot to kill Castro, and to compromise him, when accused of the murder of Kennedy. TOPIC ON: Was Oswald in MC? IMO, yes. WHY? See my argument above. kinAski PS After Oswalds dead, the cover-up-team was working hard to make the world believe Oswalds MC episode was connected with the plot (his solitary plan) to kill Kennedy, while he was there as part of a plot to kill Castro. The "Oswald killed Kennedy" Cover was not only a protection for the real killers of Kennedy (and the US "higher circles" behind it), it was also a protection for a US-government plot to kill Castro with cancer ... IMO
  11. From the 2017 release of JFK Documents, discussed here several months ago ... the Belin-Rocca interview took place in the early 70ties, if I remember correctly ... 'EYES ONLY' SECRET CIA FILE #104-10268-10005: ANGLETON'S CIA RIGHT-HAND MAN RAYMOND ROCCA TELLS WARREN COMMISSION MEMBER BELIN THAT LEE OSWALD WAS IN MEXICO CITY BECAUSE HE WAS INVOLVED IN A PLOT TO KILL FIDEL CASTRO. (That's Judith Vary Baker told the public in 2010 in her book ME AND LEE in 2010 ... and have been telling us all since 1999). IN THIS DOCUMENT, WE LEARN THAT: 1. THE CIA KNEW LEE OSWALD WENT TO MEXICO CITY IN A PLOT TO KILL CASTRO. () kinAski
  12. If Crenshaw was correct, estimating the diameter of the puncture neck wound 3 mm to 5 mm, Perry ( or Carrico) had to enlarge the wound, resp. make an incision, because: "The outer diameter of the tracheostomy tube should be about ⅔ to ¾ of the tracheal diameter. ( An adult's trachea has an inner diameter of about 1.5 to 2 centimetres (0.6 to 0.8 in) and a length of about 10 to 11 centimetres (4 in.) As a general rule, most adult females can accommodate a tube with an outer diameter of 10mm, whilst an outer diameter of 11mm is suitable for most adult males." Kennedys neckwound was enlarged twice: by Perry (or Carrico) in order to put in the tube, then by the secret autopsy team, in order o search for a missile and destroy a "unsuitable" original wound (neckwound), which could not have been a bullet wound, by it's size of 3mm to 5 mm. (Crenshaw). BTW Crenshaw saw Perry making the incision, if I remember correctly. KK
  13. James Files is the Steven Witt of the grassy knoll ... 🙂
  14. ... while Kennedy was on the stretcher ... 1min41, quote nurse Phyllis Hall: "On the cart, halfway between the earlob and the shoulder (of Kennedy), there was a bullet, laying almost perpendicular there ... " https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asZqwbdKWC4
  15. Quote: Merry, Robert. TAKING ON THE WORLD: JOSEPH AND STEWART ALSOP - GUARDIANS OF THE AMERICAN CENTURY (Kindle-Positionen9217-9227). Booksurge. Kindle-Version. The day after, on August 22, there arrived in Saigon the new U.S. ambassador, Joe Alsop’s lifelong friend, Henry Cabot Lodge. By the time Joe reached Vietnam in mid-September 1963 for ten days of reporting, Lodge had concluded that Diem must go. At the ambassador’s invitation, Joe stayed at the embassy, and there he had ample opportunity to hear Lodge decry the misrule of Diem and his brother. Indeed, Lodge already had set in motion a U.S. plan to sanction a coup by the South Vietnamese military. On two successive days Joe spent several hours in conversation with Nhu and Diem at their lush offices at the Palais Gia Long. He had become well acquainted with the pair during his many visits to Saigon, and he had felt a strong sense of confidence in their patriotism and judgment. Based on his conversations with Lodge, he was prepared to revise his opinion, but he was not prepared for what he encountered. He first visited Nhu in his long, high-ceilinged office lined with books and mementos and overlooking the palace gardens. The state councillor, as Nhu was called, motioned Joe to a chair near his cluttered desk and then, pacing back and forth along the length of the office and lighting cigarets in quick succession, commenced a long tirade against Saigon’s American press corps, the American government, his own military, and his own brother. He proclaimed himself to be the world’s greatest living expert on guerrilla warfare, but said he couldn’t bring his brilliance to bear because he was obstructed at every turn by the obstinate Americans and by his brother. Then Nhu announced that he had been involved in secret negotiations with Hanoi, conducted through the French ambassador, Roger Lalouette. He said he expected to reach a settlement with the communist regime soon, and that he would bring his brother along on any accommodation he found acceptable. When Joe asked what he would do if the communists later reneged on their agreement, as they had done so often in the past, the councillor dismissed the question as unimportant. He had only to go into the countryside and wave a handkerchief, he boasted, and a million men would spring to arms at his back. He was, after all, the world’s greatest living guerrilla expert. As Joe put it years later, “Nhu had gone stark, raving mad.” The next day Joe went back to Gia Long for lunch with President Diem, who greeted him cordially. Joe soon discovered that Diem’s thinking echoed Nhu’s. Diem repeated much of what his brother had said the previous day in almost identical terms, and he seemed just as impervious to reason. Joe filed a bold column relating his Gia Long experiences and expressing chagrin at the intellectual decay within the Saigon government. Nhu, he wrote, had “lost touch with the real world,” and Diem had “lost his ability to see events or problems in their true proportions, no doubt because his natural tendency to be suspicious has been daily played upon by his brother.” Joe echoed Lodge’s view that success in the war hardly seemed possible with these men in charge. “So there are likely to be changes here,” he concluded. But Joe couldn’t let it go at that. He had admired Diem, had considered him a Vietnamese patriot and a hero in the struggle against the communists following the 1954 partition. He couldn’t bring himself to blame Diem entirely for the state of things. He attacked the American press corps for writing negative stories about Diem and exacerbating his paranoia: “The constant pressure of the reportorial crusade against the government has also helped mightily to transform Diem from a courageous, quite viable national leader, into a man afflicted with galloping persecution mania, seeing plots around every corner, and therefore misjudging everything.” It was a bizarre column, and it touched a nerve in Washington. Joe hadn’t named names, but sophisticated readers knew he was talking primarily about The New York Times’s David Halberstam, whose dispatches had been very critical of Diem and pessimistic about the South’s military prospects. James Reston, the Times Washington bureau chief, phoned Mac Bundy and asked, “Why don’t you call off Alsop?” Reflecting the administration’s frustration with Halberstam’s dispatches, Bundy replied, “Don’t you believe in freedom of the press?” Joe’s column was not a product of serious analysis but rather of the emotions he felt as he contemplated the West’s experiences in Asia. If a national leader could go “right around the bend,” as Joe himself put it, because of foreign press coverage, then he clearly suffered from serious intrinsic flaws. Back in Washington, Joe went to the White House to brief Kennedy in the Oval Office. He reiterated what he had written in the column, only in stronger terms. “I don’t think this is viable,” he said." Close quote AND There is a German book APOCALYPSE VIETNAM where Pierre Salinger said, quote: "The day I embarked for Tokyo (via Honolulu) (20.11. 1963) Kennedy told me: I am about to negotiate (openly) with North Vietnam and I will make clear, that there will be no war in Vietnam." In summer/autumn 1963 JFK and the Diem brothers were involved in secret negotiations to reunify Vietnam. By November 22. 1963, the three men were dead.
  16. Here is a gem of Wesley Liebelers avoiding-tactics, when interviewing Tippit Murder witness Warren Reynolds: Quote, Warren Com. hearings: Mr. LIEBELER. How many shots did you hear? Mr.REYNOLDS. I really have no idea, to be honest with you. I would say four or five or six. I just would have no idea. I heard one, and then I heard a succession of some more, and I didn't see the officer get shot. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you see this man's face that had the gun in his hand? Mr.REYNOLDS. Very good. (The only logical question now would have been: Can you describe the man's face?, but ...)Mr. LIEBELER. Subsequent to that time, you were questioned by the Dallas Police Department, were you not? Close quote Here we a have a man who saw the face of the Tippit Killer very good, and wasn't asked to describe it ... 🙉🙈🙊
  17. I do not think, that there is any link between the events at the vicinity of the Tippit killing and the events in the Texas Theater some 40 minutes later (different cells different personnel) except in the brains of the plotters of that military type coup de etat ... to blame Oswald for murdering Tippit meant: we have our guy in custody for all practical purposes ... if everything goes as anticipated we can blame him with the murder of Kennedy too ... they did this step by step ... they only accused Oswald for murdering Kennedy AFTER the manipulation of the remains of the President at Bethesda prior to the autopsy by a secret team to make the wounds look like one guy did it ... imagine the wounds would have been such, that by no means they could have been forged to look like caused by one rifleman ... Oswald would have been a problem, but no problem: he would have been sent to the electric chair for killing a policeman. It's only speculation, counterfactual history, but I like it ...
  18. Question for Gene Kelly: Who shot Tippit, acc. to John Armstrong? 😁Was it Lee🙈, was it Harvey🙈, or was it somebody who looked completely different? 🤡Here is a witness, Armstrong completely ignored in the chapter of his book H&L: 1963 November 22 (Tippit Shooting) p. 848-876 ... where Armstrong insists, that Tippit was shot by an Oswald lookalike .. which is not true.
  19. IMO Tippits frantic zig zag squad car ride shortly after the shots at Dealy Placa and his hectic phone calls, indicate, that he had a job to do in connection with the assassination. What it was, we 'll never know, maybe to pick up a man involved in the assassination and put him out to Redbird ... that is, what Tippit was made to believe. But he was only sent around in his squad car in pointless circles, until it was time to kill him and to put the blame on Oswald. That's speculation, I know. What we know for sure is the time Tippit was shot. It was 1:06 pm. Quote from a CTKA review of Barry Earnest book THE GIRL ON THE STAIRS: "Barry then visited the scene of policeman J. D. Tippit's shooting. Here, he meets a witness that no agent of government had talked to, a Mrs. Higgins who lived nearby. She offered him some very important information. She had heard the shots and ran out her front door to see Tippit lying in the street. Barry asked her what time it was. She said it was 1:06. He asked her how she recalled that specific time. She said because she was watching TV and the announcer said it. So she automatically checked her clock when he said it and he was right." (Pronto after that announcement she heard the shots which killed Tippit) Close Quote To verify the Higgins statement, it would be helpful to figure out, if a news clip exists, with the narrator saying: It is now 1:06 ... that moment would be the exact moment of the Tippit killing ...
  20. Except that a dozen eyewitnesses and Oswald acquaintance in Minsk prove Armstrong wrong. They are still alive, like Titovets. They are nails in the Coffin of Armstrong HARVEY AND LEE. (BTW: ME&LEE the book of Judyth Vary Baker, another eyewitness (Oswald in New Orleans) and Oswald friend, is another death nail. HARVEY AND LEE. is a rabbit whole of enormous dimension, which IMO was created intentionally, to swallow honest researchers. Here we have Armstrong, and there the eyewitnesses and Oswald friends and contemporaries, who don't give a damn about this book and it's silly theory. If you want to know something about the one and only Oswald, (who had various doppelgangers, but can't be dived in a Harvey and a Lee), I recommend the following books: I AM A PATSY by de Mohrenschild, ME AND LEE, by JUDYTH VARY BAKER and OSWALDS RUSSIAN EPISODE by Ernst Titovets. Those books fit together like parts of a puzzle and show you the real Oswald. HARVEY AND LEE IS A DEATH TRAP. Edward Haslam does not believe in it, Judyth Vary Baker does not believe in it David Lifton does not believe in it, James Fetzer does not believe in it ... I know of no living Oswald friend or acquaintance, who believes in it. Jim Hargrove is the PR man for a death horse.
  21. Chomsky was a bit slow in his moral embarrassment about Vietnam. In this 1969 (sic) argument with William Buckley, Chomsky took a foreign policy position, which Kennedy took in 1951 and regarding Vietnam in 1963. Chomsky was completely post festum. Why he always tried to obfuscate the dividing line between JFK and LBJ on Vietnam, I don't know, In Chomskys case it could hardly have been pure ignorance.
  22. But you would not say: "... blot against me."? ... like Harriman in that interview , quote: " ... that (BOP) was a mistake and a blot against him. (Kennedy)." "Plot against him", would be grammatically correct? Maybe Harriman had both in mind, and merged it. (That the failure of the BOP invasion was a blot on Kennedys record, but in reality a plot against him, initiated by Dulles/Cabell/Bissell to drag him in a major Cuban war ... he realized it and fired the three plotters. Anyway, it is an odd statement by Harriman.
  23. It is an eyewitness account, not a criticism. It's not only Titovets, it's also Vladimir Zhidovich ( in 2013) and Dr. Alexander Mastykin ( in 2013), who said that Oswald DID speak Russian to them, and that Armstrong's claim that Harvy/Lee spoke no Russian while in Minsk is wrong as wrong can be. But Armstrong is not only wrong about that, he is wrong claiming, that Marina Oswald and Ella German did speak English with Oswald in Minsk, quote from my first post: Armstrong: “On October 18 [1960] Lee Harvey Oswald celebrated his 21st birthday. Ella German, a girl from the Horizon factory who Oswald had been dating the past two months, and spoke very good English, attended a small birthday party at his apartment.”(p. 311). Titovets: Ella German did not speak English at all. Armstrong:”It is clear that Marina associated with Americans, spoke English with Webster and almost certainly spoke English with Oswald… Marina’s ability to read, write, and speak English fluently before she left Russia is indisputable.” (p. 340). Titovets: Marina did not speak English at all. It would be really surprising if she would have spoken English with Oswald and completely ignored me even when the three of us were together. Close quote
  24. Harvey or Lee, I don't care. The point is, that Armstrong's claim that Harvy/Lee spoke no Russian while in Minsk is wrong as wrong can be, quote HARVEY AND LEE: p. 288 It is clear that Oswald understood and spoke Russian prior his arrival in Mos­cow, although the extent of his proficiency remains unknown. It is also clear that after he arrived in the Soviet Union, he dared not let anyone know that he spoke Russian, especiall ythe people with whom he spent the most time, the Zigers, who he probably assumed were report ingto the KGB.
  25. Lee Harvey Oswald’s closest English-speaking friend when Oswald lived in Minsk, then part of the Soviet Union, from 1959-1962. “Erich [Ernst Titovets]…is my oldest existing acquaintance…a friend of mine who speaks English very well …” as Oswald would put it in his Historic Diary. In his book Oswald: Russian Episode, Dr. Ernst Titovets investigates the Russian period of life and activity of Lee Harvey Oswald. Excerpts of a blogpost. Did Oswald Speak in Russian while Living in the Soviet Union? John Delane Williams and Ernst Titovets () When Titovets learned that Armstrong stated that Oswald spoke no Russian while in the Soviet Union, [18] Titovets was amazed. Titovets stated, “It was a cause of genuine surprise on the part of my old friend Vyacheslav Stelmakh, Ph.D., a senior researcher at the Belorussian State University who knew Oswald at the Radio Plant and was also friends with Oswald’s first love Ella German, when I told him a researcher in the States doubts the fact that Oswald spoke Russian. There are still many Russians here in Minsk who would confirm the fact.” () Ernst Titovets apparently decided to read Harvey and Lee for himself, presumably to answer the question, how did Armstrong conclude that Oswald spoke no Russian in Russia? Titovets then sent me an e-mail [35] addressing only those portions of Armstrong’s book that pertained to Oswald’s being in Russia and only those portions that was familiar to Titovets. TITOVETS VS ARMSTRONG (The Armstrong quotes are from HARVEY AND LEE) Armstrong:”I wanted to be sure I understood her answer and said, “Ana you knew Oswald from the time he arrived in Minsk until the day he and Marina left for the United States. You and your parents accompanied them to the train station and took photographs (published in the Warren Volumes). During that time he never spoke any Russian, even up to the day he left Minsk?” Ana, once again replied, “No,-not a word. My father always interpreted for him-he was the only person in the family who spoke English…” (p. 288)…“An English-speaking medical student, Erich (Ernst) Titovets, first met Oswald at the Hotel Minsk and later was a regular visitor to his apartment.” (p. 289). Titovets: Actually, I met Oswald not at the Hotel Minsk, but at the Zigers' apartment. It was in the presence of the whole family: Alexander Ziger, his wife Signora Anna and his two daughters, Anita, and Eleanora. Oswald spoke Russian and there was no need to interpret for him- Armstrong: “At the factory Oswald met another person who spoke English. Pavel Golovachev, the son of a famous Soviet Air Force General…After Pavel and Oswald began spending a lot of time together the KGB asked him to report on Oswald’s activities. He dutifully informed of his contacts with Oswald and kept them apprised of his movements.” (p. 289). Titovets: Pavel Golovachev did not speak English at all. Once he confided in me that he wished he did and he was sorry he did not speak the language. Armstrong “On October 18 [1960] Lee Harvey Oswald celebrated his 21st birthday. Ella Germann, a girl from the Horizon factory who Oswald had been dating the past two months, and spoke very good English, attended a small birthday party at his apartment.”(p. 311). Titovets: Ella Germann did not speak English at all. Armstrong:”It is clear that Marina associated with Americans, spoke English with Webster and almost certainly spoke English with Oswald… Marina’s ability to read, write, and speak English fluently before she left Russia is indisputable.” (p. 340). Titovets: Marina did not speak English at all. It would be really surprising if she would have spoken English with Oswald and completely ignored me even when the three of us were together. Armstrong : “When Oswald and Marina met, danced, and agreed to a date the following Friday they spoke a common language. Was it Russian or English? The HSCA asked Marina, ‘At the time were you speaking Russian together?’ She answered, ‘Yes. He spoke with an accent so I assumed he was from another state.’ Oswald came in contact with hundreds of people in Russia, but Marina is the only person-THE ONLY PERSON who said that he spoke Russian while in Russia.” (p. 334). Titovets: Armstrong is right about there were so many people who met Oswald in Minsk. There are still many living who would have testified to the fact that Oswald spoke Russian to them. In the book Oswald: Russian Episode one can find an illustration with Oswald’s longhand in Russian on the inside cover of a book where Oswald contemplates the names for his future child. Incidentally, Oswald signed his writings. When a date-line does not fit Armstrong’s he dismisses it as an error and suggests his “correct” one. To give an example: Armstrong: “NOTE: We will soon see the date of March 17 is in error.” (p. 333). Titovets: It is the night at the Trade Union Palace when Oswald first met Marina Prussokova. The date of March 17, 1961 is correct. Two recent interviews were conducted by Ernst Titovets with persons who had known Oswald when Oswald was living in Minsk. The first interview was with a neurologist Dr. Alexander Mastykin, MD., Ph.D. on March 20, 2013. Mastykin was a medical student at the time he met Oswald. Mastykin was learning Spanish and practiced the language at the Spanish-speaking Zigers family. He knew Anita Zigers very well. Titovets: Did Anita Ziger speak English at the time she knew Oswald? Mastykin: I never heard a single English word ever drop from her lips! Titovets: John Armstrong wrote a book Harvey and Lee and there, according to John Armstrong, Anita would say to him in an interview that Oswald did not speak Russian at all while he was in Minsk. Mastykin: It would be Anita all over! I wouldn’t put it past her that she might well invent things and say anything on the spur of the moment, unnecessary true, just for kicks. It might well depend on her mood, how she was approached and if the question was a suggestive one. Titovets: Did Oswald speak Russian? Mastykin: To say the truth there was not much love lost between the two of us; I mostly tried to steer away from him. I did not speak English while Oswald did not speak Spanish so it was Russians on those rare occasions when we happened to meet. ----------- The second interview was with Vladimir Zhidovich, a leading engineer at the Radio and Cosmic Technologies Department of the Bylorussian State University in Minsk. This interview took place on March 19, 2013. Zhidovich worked together with Oswald at the same shop in the Radio Plant in Minsk. Titovets: Vladimir, do you know English? Zhidovich: No, I do not. Why ask? You know that I don’t speak the language! Titovets: Never mind. I’ll tell you later. Just answer my questions! Did Oswald speak Russian? Zhidovitch: Russian was the only language we could communicate with him. He was not a talkative person and his Russian needed much brushing up. But he understood most [of] what he was told to and reacted accordingly. Titovets: Did anyone at the Radio Plant speak English to him? Zhidovitch: No way! Nobody knew English around [there] and I never heard anybody speaking English to Oswald at work. Even Stanislav Shushkevich, when he happened to drop over on business to the shop, spoke Russian to him. Now, tell me what’s this all about? Titovets: A John Armstrong in his book Harvey and Lee insists that Oswald did not speak Russian while those around him spoke mainly English. We both know perfectly well that Oswald did speak Russian and I just wanted to hear it from you to oblige an American friend and researcher who wants to check the fact. Zhidovitch: First I thought it was some kind of trick question. Of course Oswald did speak Russian! KK
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