11 hours ago, David Josephs said:

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32977054.pdf  

a. Discredit
b. Harass
c. Collect Intel
d. split regime leadership
e. Assist Cuban exiles
f. be prepared to exploit a revolt

David,

It kind of makes you wonder what was withheld on pages 10 and 18.

Steve Thomas

11 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

Boing boing link won't work.

And now it does within the quote, but my screen locked up after I clicked on it.  I guess the witches casted a spell.

Ron,

*sigh*

No, I'm not leaving. That was a joke.

I thought it was funny, and hoped others might too.

You can look at the Oregonian site:

https://www.oregonlive.com/expo/life-and-culture/erry-2018/10/a6e688dc885752/hundreds-of-witches-pick-paddl.html

Steve Thomas

I'm tired of wasting my time here.

I'm moving to Portland, Oregon where my life can have some meaning and purpose.

https://boingboing.net/2018/10/30/hundreds-of-witches-seen-paddl.html

Steve Thomas

8 hours ago, Jeff Carter said:

Oswald never attempted to either point the pistol or shoot at McDonald. In my opinion, the alleged “punch” was rather a reflexive action after McDonald reached towards his waist, based on the observation that Oswald otherwise remained “cool and calm”.

Jeff,

When McDonald saw that pistol, he should have taken a step back, ordered Oswald to "Freeze!", and loudly inform his fellow officers that Oswald had a gun.

Instead, he made a grab for it. Oswald instinctively tried to defend himself, and they got into a wrestling match. The gun was waving around all over the place putting a whole lot of lives in danger.

McDonald walked off his post at the TSBD without orders, and abandoned his trainee, T.R. Gregory at the Temple Life Church while he went racing up and down the alleys by himself.

(See the thread called "What happened to T.R. Gregory?")

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/7488-whatever-happened-to-tr-gregory/?tab=comments#comment-69643

Reading his W.C. testimony about frisking two men while looking over his shoulder at Oswald, who was behind him, made me scoff. What policeman frisks somebody while looking over your shoulder behind you?

If I was McDonald's supervisor, I would have fired him on the spot.

Steve Thomas

On 10/29/2018 at 2:58 PM, Tom Neal said:

But why did he punch the cop and allegedly pull the gun in the theater when he didn't expect to be tagged for JFK's shooting?

Tom,

Oswald didn't pull his gun. McDonald did.

From McDonald's after-action repot

DPD Archives Box 2, Folder# 7, Item# 32

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box2.htm

Steve Thomas

9 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

Mr. BALL. Did you search him?
Mr. ROSE. He had already been searched and someone had his billfold. I don't know whether it was the patrolman who brought him in that had it or not.
Mr. BALL. And the contents of the billfold supposedly were before you?
Mr. ROSE. Yes.

 

This raises an interesting question. Who brought Oswald to Fritz's office on the third floor?

From the WC testimony of Bob Carroll:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/carroll.htm

I requested permission to go to Oak Cliff and permission was granted and I took K. E. Lyons, and he and I left for Oak Cliff.
Mr. BALL. Is K. E. Lyons a detective?
Mr. CARROLL. He is a patrolman assigned to the special service bureau. He doesn't work in uniform.
Mr. BALL. He works in plain clothes?
Mr. CARROLL. He works in plain clothes, but his rank is patrolman,

K.E. Lyon was also one of the policemen who rode in that car back downtown.

In his after-action report, K.E Lyon wrote, “Lee Harvey Oswald was released to Captain Fritz at the Homicide and Robbery Bureau by the transporting officers.”

DPD Archives Box 2, Folder# 7, Item# 29

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box2.htm

Was K.E. Lyon the patrolman who had Oswald's wallet, and does this put a lie to Bentley's claim of turning Oswald's wallet over to Lieutenant Baker?

Steve Thomas

2 hours ago, Tom Neal said:

When LHO was arrested in the theater, he shouted "I am NOT resisting arrest!" Obviously, he knew his life was in danger -- -- but *exactly what* did he think he was being blamed for doing?

Tom,

Bob Carroll was one of the Detectives who brought Oswald back to DPD Headquarters from the Texas Theater.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/carroll.htm

"Mr. BALL. After Oswald had been handcuffed, did he say anything?
Mr. CARROLL. Yes, sir; as we were bringing him out of the theatre, he hollered that he was going to protest this police brutality. I believe those were his words - the latter part - "Protest the police brutality" were his exact words. The rest of it was what he had done and that he hadn't done nothing and stuff like that.
Mr. BALL. Did he say he hadn't done anything?
Mr. CARROLL. The best I remember that was it - after we had him in the car. We were coming down to the station and he said that he hadn't done anything and he said, "I did have a pistol and I know that that's wrong, but I haven't done anything." That's the best I recall of what he said."

K.E. Lyon was also one of the policemen who rode in that car back downtown. In his after-action report, Lyon wrote,

“Enroute to the City Hall, Oswald refused to answer any questions, and he kept repeating, “Why am I being arrested? I know I was carrying a gun, but why else am I being arrested?””

DPD Archives Box 2, Folder# 7, Item# 29

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box2.htm

In his testimony before the Warren Commission, Will Fritz said pretty much the same thing.

I'm guessing Oswald didn't know what he had been arrested for until his arraignment at 7:10 that Friday night.

Steve Thomas

4 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

Where the Jedburgs part of the 10th mountain division that trained at Ski Cooper and Monarch mountain based out of Leadville Colorado?

Ron,

No, I don't think so.

Steve Thomas

On 10/25/2018 at 9:52 AM, Steve Thomas said:

If Bentley gave Oswald's wallet to Lt. Baker and it was inventoried and did not contain the Hidell Selective Service card in it, then how come Clements "found in lying on a desk" later Friday evening, and it did have the Hidell SS card in it?

Two different wallets? Or did somebody add things to the wallet and then left it lying around on a desk for somebody to conveniently find?

 

Steve Thomas

So, did Oswald have his wallet on him or not?

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/rose_g.htm

Mr. ROSE. There were some people in the office from the Book Depository and we talked to a few of them and then in just a few minutes they brought in Lee Oswald and I talked to him for a few minutes?
Mr. BALL. What did you say to him or did he say to you?
Mr. ROSE. Well, the first thing I asked him was what his name was and he told me it was Hidell.
Mr. BALL. Did he tell you it was Hidell?
Mr. ROSE. Yes; he did.
Mr. BALL. He didn't tell you it was Oswald?
Mr. ROSE. No; he didn't, not right then--he did later. In a minute--I found two cards--I found a card that said "A. Hidell." And I found another card that said "Lee Oswald" on it, and I asked him which of the two was his correct name. He wouldn't tell me at the time, he just said, "You find out." And then in just a few minutes Captain Fritz came in and he told me to get two men and go to Irving and search his house.
Mr. BALL. Now, when he first came in there--you said that he said his name was "Hidell"?
Mr. ROSE. Yes.
Mr. BALL. Was that before you saw the two cards?
Mr. ROSE. Yes; it was.
Mr. BALL. Did he give you his first name?
Mr. ROSE. He just said "Hidell"; I remember he just gave me the last name of "Hidell".
Mr. BALL. And then you found two or three cards on him?
Mr. ROSE. Yes; we did.
Mr. BALL. Did you search him?
Mr. ROSE. He had already been searched and someone had his billfold. I don't know whether it was the patrolman who brought him in that had it or not.
Mr. BALL. And the contents of the billfold supposedly were before you?
Mr. ROSE. Yes.

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/stovall.htm

Mr. STOVALL. Well, I was scheduled to go to work at 4 that day, I believe, but as soon as I heard that I got cleaned up and got ready for work and went on in.
Mr. BALL. Were you given an assignment as soon as you got down there?
Mr. STOVALL. No, sir; I wasn't--as soon as I got there. I got there and one of my partners, G. F. Rose, got there about the same time. We were talking to a witness that had seen all the people standing out there--he didn't actually see anything, so we didn't even take an affidavit from him because he didn't see anything. While talking to him, the officers brought Lee Harvey Oswald into the Homicide Bureau and put him into an interrogation room we have there at the bureau. After we finished talking to this witness, we went back there and talked to him briefly.
Mr. BALL. Do you remember what was said to him and what he said to you?
Mr. STOVALL. I don't recall exactly--I went in and asked him for his identification, asked him who he was and he said his name was Lee Oswald, as well as I remember. Rose and I were both in there at the time. He had his billfold and in it he had the identification of "A. Hidell," which was on a selective service card, as well as I remember.

Steve Thomas

2 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

 

That special assignment of De Brueys to Dallas in October, 1963 was never once mentioned in this interview.

If true, this would be a mind blowing revelation.

Joe,

If you're referring to the memo cited above, it's dated 12/31/63 and refers back to a Report deBrueys wrote on October 25th.

The Report by deBrueys shown below indicates that deBrueys was still in New Orleans as of October 28th.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=135643&relPageId=11&search=%22WARREN_C.%20DEBRUEYS%22

Steve Thomas

Fall 1988: 10-119-1: If Donovan Were Here Today (Address to Jedburghs and Families), by William M. Henhoeffer

https://catalog.archives.gov/id/7283268?q=Jedburgh

Page 4 is kind of interesting:

3. Joseph P. Kennedy

Steve Thomas

William Colby on an OSS mission.

https://www.cia.gov/news-information/featured-story-archive/2015-featured-story-archive/legend-of-the-jedburghs.html

Steve Thomas

13 hours ago, Paz Marverde said:

There are effectively very important revelations about him in Metta's book 

 

Paz,

Can you provide a general summary of what Metta says about Vosjoli in his book?

Steve Thomas

On 10/26/2018 at 8:35 PM, Paul Brancato said:

I have not looked at the Jack Dunlap case but will read.

Paul,

Here's a smattering of references to the Dunlap case:

PRESIDENT'S FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE ADVISORY BOARD AGENDA FOR MEETING OF NOVEMBER 21-22, 1963

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1962&search=%22Jack_Dunlap%22#relPageId=6&tab=page

see pp. 6-7

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=166326&relPageId=6&search=%22Jack_Dunlap%22

see p. 6

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=148523&relPageId=221&search=%22Jack_Dunlap%22

see p. 221

Steve Thomas

On 10/26/2018 at 2:16 PM, Paul Brancato said:

How so Steve? This story doesn’t fit with the rest of De Vosjoli’s output, and I’m skeptical of it too, especially because he mixes his opposite from SDECE with Texans. But it may be a clue as to what De Vosjoli himself knew and was trying to deflect from. His relationships with Angleton, and especially with Brandstetter, is real as anything. 

Paul,

I said I was skeptical about Vosjoli, and you asked why.

I'm sorry, I don't know enough to argue intelligently. My reasons are subjective more than objective.

1. I spent all my life in public service. One thing I learned is to be suspicious of anyone who talks too much or too fast. My take on his article in Life Magazine is that he talks too much. The line he is pushing is that the French government was riddled with KGB spies. This is the same line the OAS was pushing to the CIA.

“So Much Has Been Swept Under the Rug” by Vosjoli

Life Magazine 1968

https://books.google.ca/books?id=ylQEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA32#v=onepage&q&f=false

2. He's got beady eyes:

3. Look where he fled immediately after JFK's assassination: Brandstetter's in Acapulco. I wonder why.

PS: Have you ever looked into the Jack Dunlap case that Vosjoli refers to in his article? That case came out at the same time as the Eugene Dinkin case, but Dunlap's case worried the U.S. government a whole lot more.

Like I said, it's all subjective.

Steve Thomas

On 10/26/2018 at 4:19 AM, Steve Thomas said:

Anthony,

 

This is a new name to me, so I did a quick search.

Steve Thomas

Another reference to de Lannurien:

From, Matrix For Assassination, by Richard Gilbride. page 164.

de Lannurien is now contracting out snipers? Angleton at Langley? Right-wing Texans? Israeli Mossad?

This guy gets around.

Steve Thomas

On 10/25/2018 at 11:41 PM, Anthony Thorne said:

A five star review of the book has appeared from a poster (not me, I haven't read it yet) on Goodreads - 

Quote, " I find it telling rather than coincidence that French intelligence Colonel deLannurien was at Langley meeting with Angleton on the 22nd November 1963."

 

Anthony,

This is a new name to me, so I did a quick search.

From, Our Man in Haiti, by Joan Mellen. page unknown.

At this point in my life, I'm a little skeptical of Vosjoli.

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, Larry Hancock said:

Thanks Steve, actually I went down the Detachment 101 road twice, most recently when I did Shadow Warfare.  I spend a lot of time there following OSS 101 members who became locally influential in Burma after the war, who helped establish the first CIA presence there and to some extent many of the basic practices for CIA covert operations during the Cold War...long before PB/SUCCESS.  If you have SW check Chapter 4 on Armies of Opportunity and Chapter 4 on Fighting China...Deniably.  I think you will find some names that are familiar to you and others that are not...but a lot of connections that later turn up in Laos and the Golden Triangle, including Lucian Conein.

Larry,

I felt kind of stupid referring you to the OSS and Burma.

I figured you were all over it anyway, but couldn't stop myself from hitting that send button. *grin*

I don't have Shadow Warfare, but the Golden Triangle connections intrigue me.

I read The Strength of the Wolf by Doug Valentine a long time ago, and it left an impression on me.

Steve Thomas

26 minutes ago, Jim Hargrove said:

Steve,

Westbrook is all over this thing.

Jim,

Is Westbrook generating this information about Oswald being a communist, or is he just passing it along, and was he the source of the information Stringfellow gave to the 112th down in San Antonio? Oswald admitted no such thing.

Gerald Hill's testimony before the Warren Commission

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/hill_gl.htm

“...we adjourned to the personnel office, which was further down the hall from homicide and I sat down and started to try to organize the first report on the arrest.
I originally had the heading on it, "Injuries sustained by suspect while effecting his arrest in connection with the murder of Officer J. D. Tippit," and a few minutes later Captain Westbrook came in the office and said that our suspect had admitted being a Communist. This is strictly hearsay. I did not hear it myself.

Steve Thomas

If Bentley gave Oswald's wallet to Lt. Baker and it was inventoried and did not contain the Hidell Selective Service card in it, then how come Clements "found in lying on a desk" later Friday evening, and it did have the Hidell SS card in it?

Two different wallets? Or did somebody add things to the wallet and then left it lying around on a desk for somebody to conveniently find?

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, Larry Hancock said:

It was amazingly ballsy, especially since the jumps were at night, during the dark of the moon and coordinated strictly with local resistance folks who could easily have been compromised by the occupation forces.  It largely succeeded due the the strong personal bonds between the British and French, involving Brits who were quite fluent in French and personally familiar with the territory and French personnel who had gone to Britain and moved back and forth as infiltrators.

The only sad point is that while it worked in France and to a lesser extent in the low countries, certain of the senior OSS officers who became involved with it used it as a model for infiltration into occupied Europe after the war and later into North Vietnam - both efforts for total disasters (largely because unlike in France there were no comparable resistance networks).  Hundreds of volunteers were sacrificed in the effort, I discuss it in Shadow Warfare.

 

Larry,

Because my initial inquiry led me to the China-Burma-India Theater of Operations, I wound up reading about OSS Detchment 101.

(You might be interested in scrolling through the footnotes to the last citation (the Center of Military History one by Hogan)

OSS Detachment 101 Burma

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSS_Detachment_101

“On April 14, 1942, William Donovan, as Coordinator of Information (which evolved into the Office of Strategic Services that June), activated Detachment 101 for action behind enemy lines in Burma. The first unit of its kind, the Detachment was charged with gathering intelligence, harassing the Japanese through guerrilla actions, identifying targets for the Army Air Force to bomb, and rescuing downed Allied airmen. Because Detachment 101 was never larger than a few hundred Americans, it relied on support from various tribal groups in Burma. In particular, the vigorously anti-Japanese Kachin people were vital to the unit's success. By the time of its deactivation on July 12, 1945, Detachment 101 had scored impressive results. According to official statistics, with a loss of some 22 Americans, Detachment 101 killed 5,428 Japanese and rescued 574 Allied personnel."[2] 101's efforts opened the way for Stilwell's Chinese forces, Wingate's Raiders, Merrill's Marauders, and the great counter-attack against the Japanese Imperial life-line.” ^3.

Unfortunately, the list of officers and men that was supposed to be included in the following site has been taken down.

^2.. Behind Japanese Lines in Burma The Stuff of Intelligence Legend

Edited by Troy J. Sacquety

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/csi-studies/studies/fall_winter_2001/article07.html

^3. Behind the Burma Road by William R. Peers and Dean Brelis, 1963.

“The book aims in part to be a primer for guerilla fighters. It lists Detachment 101's accomplishments as far as they were known at the time in terms of the effects of its attacks on and harassment of the Japanese during World War II.... The successes of Detachment 101 made possible the entry of Joseph Stilwell's Chinese forces, Orde Wingate's Raiders, Merrill's Marauders, and the other moves against the Japanese Imperial interior lines.

U.S. ARMY SPECIAL OPERATIONS IN WORLD WAR II by David W. Hogan, Jr

https://history.army.mil/html/books/070/70-42/CMH_Pub_70-42.pdf

see pp. 97-132. for information about the China-Burma-India Theater of Operations, especially pp. 98-112 for Detachment 101.

See the footnotes pp. 129-132.

Steve Thomas

6 hours ago, Larry Hancock said:

As a WWII history buff I feel compelled to chime in that the Jedburgh operation was largely a British SOE affair, initiated by the British and with the majority of the clandestine air drops were done by British aircraft and the contacts were with French and other resistance fighters in the occupied territories. The OSS did participate but were relative late comers and learned the ropes from the Brits, they were not running the show. In fact OSS officers had to go though Jed/SOE military training to qualify for inclusion.

Operation Jedburgh was a clandestine operation during World War II, in which personnel of the British Special Operations Executive, the U.S. Office of Strategic Services, the Free French Bureau Central de Renseignements et d'Action ("Intelligence and operations central bureau") and the Dutch and Belgian Armies were dropped by parachute into occupied France, the Netherlands and Belgium to conduct sabotage and guerrilla warfare, and to lead the local resistance forces in actions against the Germans.

The British were fighting the clandestine battle on the continent before the U.S. entered the war.

Larry,

From what I can tell, the Jedburghs were some of the most fearless and courageous men our country and any other country ever produced.

There are some who claim that the CIA was behind the Generals Putsch in April, 1961. Didn't Charles DeGaulle even believe that, and JFK had to personally call him to reassure him it wasn't true?

That's why I included the info about Yves Godard - he weaves in and out of the life of Jean-Rene Souetre as well.

What do you think of them parachuting behind the lines in uniform? That's pretty ballsy.

Steve Thomas

On 10/24/2018 at 2:29 PM, Mark Lawson said:

Given the state of phototypesetting and offset lithography printing circa 1961-63 (with melted-lead Linotype machines still being use by newspapers into the 1970s and early 1980s), I am skeptical that the DPD had either the time or the technology to forge the "HIDELL" Selective Service and Social Security cards overnight.  However, considering wanna'-be CIA/FBI agent Oswald's experience with commercial printing, while working in at least one printing plant, he may have had the tools and time necessary to produce these documents himself.

 

Mark,

It sounds like you know what you are talking about, and your reasoning is sound.

What do you think of this possibility?

Oswald created the fake Hidell Selective Service card while he was working at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall, but he didn't sign it.

That would make what he said under interrogation by the DPD true. He admitted to having the card, but denied the signature was his.

The reason I ask is that the SS card in the name of Oswald doesn't appear to be signed, but the Hidell card is signed.

CE 801 is the Selective Service Notice of Classification for Lee Oswald

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=712&tab=page

CE 796 is the Selective Service Notice of Classification for Alek Hidell

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=708&tab=page

What do you think?

Steve Thomas

I had read that Lucien Conein, John Singlaub and L.Robert Castorr were all in the Merrill's Marauders.

I thought that was kind of interesting, so I started looking around. While I haven't found that Conein and Singlaub were in Merrill's Marauders, I did find some information about the Jedburghs.

This is what  I've come across so far:

Lucien Conein

wikipedia:

In 1944 he was sent to Vichy France with orders to help the French Resistance attack the German Army during the Allied landings in Normandy. He worked with the Jedburghs, a multinational band directed by the Office of Strategic Services (OSS)

John Singlaub

wikipedia:

"As a member of Operation Jedburgh (Singlaub was part of the three man team codenamed "JAMES"), Singlaub parachuted behind German lines in August 1944 to work with the French Resistance fighters"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Jedburgh

In Burma, Jedburgh teams were used in operations "Billet" and "Character". "Billet" was a plan to raise resistance to the Japanese among the majority Burman population, primarily through the largely communist Anti-Fascist Organisation (AFO). "Character" was a scheme to raise the minority Karen people in the Karen Hills between the Sittang and Salween Rivers. The first Jeds to go on Character operations were flown into Burma in February 1945 with Lieutenant Colonel Peacock's Special Groups.

Many of the surviving American "Jeds" later held various positions of great responsibility in the US Army or the CIA. Examples include William Colby, who became director of the CIA, Lucien Conein, who was a key CIA officer in Vietnam, General John Singlaub and Colonel Aaron Bank (first commander of United States Army Special Forces).

Among French Jedburghs were Paul Aussaresses, later founder of the SDECE's 11e RPC, and counter-insurgency expert in French Algeria; Jean Sassi, another who later served in the 11e RPC, who pioneered conventional guerrilla commandos GCMA with Roger Trinquier during the First Indochina War; Guy Le Borgne, commander of the 8e Choc Parachute Battalion in Indochina, the 3rd Marine Infantry Parachute Regiment in Algeria and 11th Parachute Division."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/11e_r%C3%A9giment_parachutiste_de_choc

"The 11^e régiment parachutiste de choc ("11th shock parachute regiment), often called 11^e choc, was an elite parachute regiment of the French Army. It used to serve as the armed branch of the SDECE

In July 1947, as the complement of the 11^e choc grew, Morlane nominated Paul Aussaresses to replace Mautaint. Aussaresses described his mission as "perform what was by then called 'psychological warfare', wherever it was necessary, notably in Indochina (...) I trained my men for clandestine operations, airborne or otherwise, that could range from building demolition to sabotage or elimination of enemies".[3] From 1952, elements of the 11^e choc were sent to Indochina to lead and train the Groupement de commandos mixtes aéroportés (GCMA), though the 11^e Choc did not take part in the conflict as a unit.

Back from Indochina in 1952, Aussaresses was tasked to assassinate supporters of the FLN. Morlane "was convinced that a Soviet invasion was imminent, and had been busy constituting secret weapon caches all over the territory so that, when time would come, a resistance could be organised".[4]

^4. Paul Aussaresses, Pour la France: Services spéciaux 1942-1954, Editions du Rocher, 2001, p.257

Commanding officers

11^e bataillon parachutiste de choc

• 1946-1947 : CNE Mautaint

• 1947 : CNE Rivière

• 1947-1948 : CNE Paul Aussaresses

• 1948-1953 : CBN Yves Godard

• 1953-1955 : CES Pierre Decorse

• 1955-1957 : CNE Bauer

• 1958-1960 : CNE Erouart

• 1960-1961 : CBN Crousillac

• 1961-1962 : CBN Mouton

• 1962-1963 : CBN Dabezies

• 1963 : CBN Barthes"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yves_Godard
 

"He was part of the occupation force in Austria, then a general staff officer of the French Army before taking command of the 11e Bataillon Parachutiste de Choc in 1948. He led the battalion during the First Indochina War, taking part during the war in a failed attempted to relieve the French Union garrison at Dien Bien Phu from Laos. In 1955 Godard became chief of staff of the Parachute Intervention Group, soon to become the 10th Parachute Division, in Algeria commanded by General Jacques Massu. He took part in the Anglo-French operation during the Suez Crisis in 1956.

Godard became one of the primary figures of the Battle of Algiers, especially during the later part when he commanded the Algiers sector, supervising links between the Army and the Police, and serving as the chief of staff to Massu. At the suggestion of Paul-Alain Léger, he authorised the bleus de chauffe system, by which paratroopers disguised as young workers roamed the Cashbah and arrested FLN militants

During the Barricade Week, in January 1960, Godard sent Captain Yves de La Bourdonnaye to negotiate Pierre Lagaillarde's surrender. La Bourdonnaye later implied that he was sympathetic to the rebels and had done little to hasten their surrender.[4]

In February, Pierre Messmer had Godard transferred to France, but he returned to take part in the Algiers putsch of 1961. When the putsch failed, he joined the Organisation armée secrète, helping modeling it after the structure of the FLN,[5] but left Algeria in the summer of 1962 and stayed underground until 1967. Godard was sentenced to death for his part in the putsch and OAS. He settled in Belgium, and unlike his OAS colleagues, he did not return to France after the 1968 amnesty. Godard died in 1975 at Lessines, Belgium, at 63."

Interesting group of people.

Steve Thomas

David,

CE 811 is the back side of Oswald's Selective Service Classification. It's grouped with CE 812, the USMC Certificate of Service

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=718&tab=page

Eyes: Blue

Height 5'11”

CE 796, and 797 is Alek Hidell's SS Notice of Classification:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=708&tab=page

Eyes: Grey

Height 5'9”

card is signed

Selective Service Card in the name of Lee Harvey Oswald

CE 802

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=713&tab=page

ink stained and not signed

USMC Certificate of Service

Lee Harvey Oswald: CE 812

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=718&tab=page

Period of Active Duty: 24 October 1956 to 11 September 1959

USMC Certificate of Service

Alek James Hidell:

CE 806, 807, 808, 809, and 810

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1134#relPageId=715&tab=page

CE 810 Certificate of Service

Period of Active Duty: Oct 15 1958 to Oct 12 1959? (only one year in the service?)

Steve Thomas