Jim Hargrove

And by your own admission, all we have is your humble opinion. Your humble opinion that several witnesses who may have seen Ruby give Oswald a gun at the Book Depository shouldn’t even be questioned, because in your humble opinion they’re mistaken. And your humble opinion that a restaurant waitress who knew Jack Ruby for many years and thought she saw him sitting with Oswald the morning of the assassination and said her life was threatened a few days later shouldn’t be investigated more fully because, in your humble opinion, she was mistaken. Why wouldn’t the FBI investigate those allegations? Too busy confiscating Oswald’s teen-aged employment and school records? You seem willing to cast blame almost everywhere… Dallas police, the Mob, right-wing operatives… but never the CIA. Why is that? One more time…. Why did the CIA protect Jack Ruby’s Cuban gunrunning activities? Do you really think it was a coincidence that Ruby communicated so frequently with Gordon McClendon, David Atlee Phillips’ close associate?

There are all kinds of leads detailing possible actions of Ruby on 11/22/63… but of course they weren’t properly investigated by the FBI. One of the most intriguing is the following: This is clearly a twice-removed hearsay report, but it is simply unbelievable that the FBI failed to interview the women who, according to Mrs. Harris, told Lucy Lopez that they had seen Jack Ruby hand a pistol to “Lee Harvey Oswald” in front of the Book Depository immediately after the assassination. TSBD employee Victoria Adams also told the Warren Commission that she saw a man who may have been Ruby near the building a few minutes after the hit. (Also, about Oswald speaking Spanish in the report above, please note: Texas Employment Commission employee Laura Kittrell said she interviewed two similar-looking but different young men who both claimed to be “Lee Harvey Oswald” in October, 1963. The man she believed to be an impostor--but who was actually American-born LEE Oswald--indicated he spoke Spanish.) There is also a credible report that Ruby and Oswald were together at the B & B Restaurant, just two doors from Jack Ruby's Vegas Club, in the wee hours of 11/22/63: Head waitress Mary Lawrence knew Jack Ruby well, but, of course, she might have been mistaken about seeing Oswald (it would have to have been American-born LEE Oswald, not Russian-speaking HARVEY). But what adds credence to her report is that she said her life was threatened a few days after the hit. In January 1964, when the DPD report was made, Mary Lawrence couldn’t have known how many suspicious deaths would eventually pile up around witnesses connected to the Kennedy Assassination. There are a number of other leads about Ruby’s possible actions on 11/22/63 but, of course, the FBI wasn’t interested in any of them. Not nearly as important as, say, Marguerite’s dental records. They certainly weren’t interested in his ties to Gordon McLendon, David Atlee Phillips’ closest friend.

Do you seriously expect us to believe that Ruby's gunrunning activities to Cuba went unnoticed by the CIA? Will your CIA excuse du jour involve total incompetence or something different? Why was Jack Ruby protected by the CIA? Not only was Ruby instrumental in getting Trafficante out of jail, he also tried to get Jake Lansky released. Everyone knows how the CIA and the Mob worked together in those Good Ole Days! Why did Jack Ruby communicate so often, even on the very day of the assassination, with David Atlee Phillips' close friend Gordon McLendon?

What utter nonsense! John Armstrong is a VERY wealthy man who made his fortune in the oil business and later as a custom home builder. The many years of work he did on the Kennedy assassination was nothing but a major economic loss for him, but I'm sure you knew that already, eh? What a coincidence it is that "Ruby the pimp" was so heavily involved in Cuban arms shipments but was never prosecuted. Why did the CIA protect "Ruby the pimp?" What a coincidence it is that Ruby communicated before, during and after the assassination with Gordon McLendon, David Atlee Phillips' childhood friend and future business partner. So many coincidences for "Ruby the pimp!"

The first time I saw the picture of the three men in the hats was when John Armstrong emailed it to me some time ago when he was working on his Ruby write-up for my website. I think it came without comment from John, but I took one look at it and thought, “Wow, that’s Ruby standing next to Nixon.” (I couldn’t identify Prescott Bush yet). Not only did the face look right, though perhaps a bit younger, but the height looked right too, at least in comparison to Nixon. We’re all, of course, free to make our own conclusions. As for the affidavit, here’s the clearest image I have of the full sheet, apparently including the cover sheet at top: I’ve referenced this before, but here’s what Jefferson Morley wrote about the 1947 affidavit at http://jfkfacts.org/fact-check-did-richard-nixon-know-jack-ruby/ : Long ago, when Hoch was more conspiratorially minded than he is now, he wrote that he thought the letter was a forgery. In 2006 Gary Buell posted a detailed commentary on questions about the document’s authenticity. One key point of dispute is the letterhead on the document that includes a five-digit Zip Code — a system not adopted until 1963. “Even if it’s real,” Davison says, “the Jack Rubenstein mentioned is almost certainly a different person, a prominent member of the Young Communist League in the 1920s whose death was reported in the New York Times, July 8, 1989, p. 29. (“Jack Rubenstein, 81, Labor-union Official.”) This Jack Rubenstein helped organize a textile workers’ strike in New Jersey in 1926, when “our” Jack Ruby would’ve been 15. He later broke with the CP — which would explain why the Nixon letter says he was “a potential witness” for the HUAC.” Davison says the 1947 memo refers to the communist Jack Rubenstein, not the Jack Rubenstein who changed his name to Jack Ruby. But the disputed memo refers to “Jack Rubenstein of Chicago,” which is where the Dallas Jack Ruby hailed from. The communist Jack Ruby was from New Jersey and there is no mention of Chicago in his obituary. Gary Mack of the Sixth Floor museum endorses Davison’s view — that the document refers to the communist Jack Rubenstein, not the Jack Rubenstein changed his name to Jack Ruby. Mack says a Chicago newspaper reporter debunked the story that Nixon knew Ruby a long time ago. I’ve asked him to provide a copy of the debunking, and he says he will try to track it down. Meanwhile, I asked Stone for comment. :The document is not forged,” he said by email. “The zip code is on a cover-sheet that was attached in 1978 and copied atop the original document. I reviewed records from the Clerk of the House to determine this.” Stone also said he has “a direct quote from Nixon who acknowledged in 1989 that his aide Murray Chotiner brought Ruby to him in 1947 and told him LBJ wanted Ruby hired as an informant for the House UnAmerican Activities Committee,” otherwise known as HUAC. At this point I think the preponderance of evidence favors Stone. That is to say, I think the document is a genuine HUAC record from 1947. Per Occam’s Razor, I think that the explanation that the more modern letterhead with the zip code was copied along atop the original document is a simpler, less conspiratorial explanation than forgery. I also think that the note refers to Jack Rubenstein from Chicago who would change his last name to Ruby and who would change history by killing Lee Oswald. Unless Davison and Mack have some evidence that the communist Jack Rubenstein lived in Chicago in 1947, I doubt he is the person referenced in the note. A more definitive pronouncement would be premature. The possibility of forgery cannot be ruled out until the original document can be located and examined. The newspaper article cited by Mack may also have important information. It should be noted that Gary Mack died recently. It would be nice to locate the original, or closest to an original, copy of this in the HUAC collection at the House of Representatives. In doing anything like this, however, I’m always cognizant of one of the first things John Armstrong told me during one of our many phone talks. It went something like this: “Whenever you research anything about Oswald, especially if its with a government agency, you can’t let them know it’s about ‘Lee Harvey Oswald,’ or everything will get weird.” Sometimes it’s easy to do that, and sometimes it seems downright impossible.

The photo and the HUAC document do NOT always appear together. I've posted both independently before on this forum. I also put them side-by-side on my public Dropbox folder and linked them here, which Sandy copied. Here they are separately from my website; first the picture: And then the HUAC affidavit: John Armstrong and I usually post them together because the guy in the picture looks like Jack Ruby (standing next to Richard Nixon and Prescott Bush), and the affidavit says "Jack Rubenstein of Chicago ... is performing information functions for the staff of Cong. Richard M. Nixon of California." We also make note of the fact that Nixon aide and confidant Roger Stone said that in 1982 Nixon told him: "The damn thing is, I knew this Jack Ruby. Murray (Chotiner) brought him to me in 1947, said he was one of 'Johnson's boys' and that LBJ wanted us to hire him as an informant to the Committee. We did.” Now, you all can say the photo doesn't look like Ruby (a number of people here think it is Ruby, including me), and you can say the document is a forgery, and you can call Roger Stone a xxxx, but will no one consider the other possibility: that Jack Ruby DID work for Nixon?

Thanks Paul. I'm pretty aware of Morales's reputation as Phillips' assassin (suspected in the killings of both Che Guevara and Allende, no?) but I'm not up to speed on his possible connections with "Oswald." I'll look into it right away. JA believes Crafard would be less likely to be confused with "Oswald" in person (as opposed to comparing photographs) because his teeth were so bad. Now that everyone is aware of the full scope of Joannides' treachery, my guess is that some ancient documents may still be being shredded even now.

Indeed! The evidence makes it very clear that JFK was assassinated to provoke an invasion of Cuba! Jim DiEugenio has made some great presentations showing how just about every aspect of JFK's foreign policy was at odds with the MIC, but the statement above is the obvious truth, IMHO.

You speculate that the Dallas meeting between Phillips and “Oswald” was about assassinating Fidel Castro, but that is sheer guesswork. A far more likely interpretation of that meeting is presented in the next paragraph. In order to turn suspicion away from the CIA, you speculate that “Oswald” was a CIA-wannabe since his teen years, and yet…. We have discussed the enormous similarities between the false defections of “Oswald” and Webster, and at the time of our discussion you tried to deflect attention from the CIA by stating that the false defections might have been orchestrated by ONI rather than CIA. So much for your support of the wannabe excuse! From Guatemala to Cuba to Dallas, David Atlee Phillips was an enabler of assassins and a professional xxxx. By the time of the Missile Crisis, Phillips was supporting DRE leaders in Miami to the tune of $25,000 per month, and he helped revive DRE following the Bay of Pigs. He clearly felt, as did so many of the Cubans, that Kennedy had betrayed him. That is evidenced by his and his Agency’s violent operations against the Cuban government even after being ordered to desist by the Kennedy Administration. David Atlee Phillips had the means, the motive, and the opportunity to plan and help execute the murder of JFK. What I’m presenting is a description of the how that was probably accomplished. For you to suggest a different reality, you have to assume, among other things, that the frequent communications between Ruby and Phillips’ parter McLendon was a coincidence. There are far too many coincidences in this case. You suggest we consult Phillips’ manuscript to determine if he was involved in the assassination of JFK? You suggest we consult Seth Kantor’s work to see if Phillips, or McLendon, or Ruby confessed to him, a professional newsman? Puh-lease! Most rookie cops would laugh at those arguments.

John Armstrong has shown how Jack Ruby may have been far more intimately involved in the assassination plot and the framing of “Lee Harvey Oswald” than most of us previously believed. It seems entirely plausible to me that Ruby was following instructions from CIA’s David Atlee Phillips via the two men’s mutual friend – KLIF co-founder Gordon McLendon (himself a former Naval intelligence officer). Ruby was clearly in contact with McLendon before, during, and after the Kennedy assassination. Antonio Veciana says he saw his contact (who eventually turned out to be Phillips) talking with LEE Oswald at the Southland building in Dallas in the summer of 1963, just as the assassination plot and the plot to frame “Lee Harvey Oswald” were unfolding. If this theory is correct, do you seriously believe any of the principals would share this information with a newspaper reporter? Really?

Some of this stuff can't be proved today because the FBI never bothered to investigate the case! Imagine not even questioning three people who may have seen Ruby hand a gun to Oswald outside the Book Depository right after the assassination. Nothing to see here, move on, right? Here is the full post again that so upsets Paul: Jack Ruby, Oswald, and the murder of JFK Since October 1963, a three-man musical "combo" group was performing in Ruby's club that consisted of John Anderson (trumpet), Bill Willis (drums), and William Simmons (piano). The small group worked only four hours a day, from 9 PM to 1 AM. Curiously, and without explanation, Willis and Simmons lived fifteen miles away from the Carousel Club, in a house located at 2530 W. 5th in Irving, TX., just 200 feet west on the opposite side of the street from Ruth Paine (2515 W. 5th). When Ruby shot HARVEY Oswald, Nancy Powell (Tammi True) told the WC that she saw Bill Willis (drummer) near the police station. Neither Willis nor Simmons were interviewed by the WC. 12 hours before the assassination: In the early morning hours of November 22, some 12 hours before the assassination, Mary Lawrence was working at the B & B Restaurant, just two doors from Jack Ruby's Vegas Club. She was the head waitress and had known Jack Ruby for the past eight years. She and the night cashier saw Jack Ruby and a person identical to Lee Harvey Oswald in the restaurant shortly after midnight on November 22. Following the assassination, she reported this to the Dallas Police and received a phone call on December 3 from an unknown male who stated, she said, "If you don't want to die, you better get out of town." When subsequently questioned by the Dallas Police, Mary Lawrence stated that the man with Ruby was "positively Lee Harvey Oswald." Neither Mary Lawrence nor her friend were interviewed by the Warren Commission. Adding some credibility to Mary Lawrence's report is the fact that few people in America knew back then what we know today--that Jack Ruby and (LEE) Harvey Oswald were seen together by many witnesses, in different locations, prior to the assassination, who gave statements to that effect to Dallas and D.C. authorities. A few minutes after the assassination: A few minutes after the shooting Victoria Adams, who worked in the TSBD, told the Warren Commission that she observed a man standing on the corner of Elm and Houston a few minutes after the assassination who may have been Jack Ruby. Across the street Mrs. Louis Velez, and two co-workers, saw Ruby walking up and down the street near the TSBD. When HARVEY Oswald came out of the building, they saw Ruby give him a pistol (perhaps, as was reported, a pistol with a defective firing pin). These women knew Oswald, who ate with them at a nearby restaurant, and both were acquainted with Jack Ruby. Mrs. Velez told her story of Ruby giving Oswald a pistol to her mother (Mrs. Evelyn Harris), who was interviewed by FBI agent Manning on 11/30/63. Neither Mrs. Velez nor her co-workers were interviewed by the DPD or FBI and given the opportunity to confirm or deny their story. If their story is true, then Ruby may have been setting up HARVEY Oswald, by giving him a pistol (with a defective firing pin) to provide justification for the police if and when they shot him. On Friday evening (11/22/63) District Attorney Henry Wade told news reporters, “when a Dallas Police officer was arresting him the pistol was snapped at another police officer's head and didn't fire.” (@ 1:35) LEE Oswald just after 1 pm near Ruby’s apartment: About 1:03 PM LEE Oswald was seen by several witnesses in the Oak Cliff suburb of Dallas walking west near the corner of 10th St. & Marsalis--more than a mile south of HARVEY Oswald's rooming house. LEE Oswald was only three blocks north of Jack Ruby's apartment (223 S. Ewing), where he had been seen the night before by Helen McIntosh, a guest of Ruby's next door neighbor. Four blocks from Ruby's apartment, and only one block east of 10th & Patton, was a small, single story house at 511 E. 10th that was owned by attorney Dick Loomis, Sr., and his wife. Mrs. Loomis was a housewife and President of the Oak Cliff Fine Arts Club. She told FBI agents Griffin and Carter that a young couple, who were identical to LEE Harvey and Marina Oswald, lived next door in an apartment complex at 507 E. 10th (13 apartments) about one week before the assassination. Mrs. Loomis saw Marina and her infant child in front of her home and recalled that Marina had jet black hair (at this time Marina had two children). She said Marina wore very plain clothing and on one occasion wore a light blouse and plaid skirt and on another occasion a dark blouse and the same plaid skirt. She once saw a heavy-set man visit the apartment next door and thought it may have been Ruby. FBI agent James Hosty, who never met Oswald face-to-face prior to November 22, 1963, told fellow FBI agent Carver Gayton that he left notes under Oswald's apartment door. But the Warren Commission reported that Oswald lived either at his rooming house (1026 N. Beckley) or at Ruth Paine's house in Irving, TX, neither of which was an apartment. Hosty did not leave notes at Oswald's rooming house or at Ruth Paine's, but he could have left notes under the door at several of LEE Oswald's previous apartments, including 507 E. 10th, 1106 Diceman Avenue, or an apartment in Oak Lawn that Ruby rented for Oswald (according to DPD informant T-1). Ruby’s close friend Tommy Rowe fingered “Oswald” Tommy Rowe, a very close friend of Jack Ruby's, worked at Hardy's Shoe Store with Johnny Brewer. In 1964 Rowe told researcher/publisher Penn Jones that it was he who told shoe store manager Johnny Brewer that he saw a man wearing a brown shirt enter the Texas Theater (click here to see Midlothian Mirror editorial about Tommy Rowe) . Inside the darkened theater Rowe claims that it was he (NOT Brewer) who directed the police to the man wearing the long sleeved brown shirt--HARVEY Oswald. Rowe was never interviewed by the DPD or FBI. For years after the assassination Rowe told friends, relatives, and JFK researchers that it was he, NOT Brewer, who pointed out (HARVEY) Oswald to the police in the dark of the Texas Theater. Rowe was so close to Jack Ruby that he moved into Ruby's apartment when Ruby went to jail for killing HARVEY Oswald . In 1967 the New Orleans District Attorney's office interviewed Tommy Rowe, who lived in Apt. 206 at 223 S. Ewing (the apartment next to the one occupied by Jack Ruby in 1963). If Rowe's statement is true then Johnny Brewer lied to Julia Postal, lied to the police, lied to the FBI, and lied to the WC. He never followed the man in the brown shirt, or anyone else, to the theater. The man responsible for getting the police to the Texas theater appears to have been Jack Ruby's friend, Tommy Rowe. And it appears that Johnny Brewer may have been merely a "wannabe" and not a co-conspirator. NOTE: If Rowe's story is true, then we have to wonder how Rowe knew about a man (HARVEY OFollowing the assassination Jack Ruby was now confronted with his worst nightmare. HARVEY Oswald was still alive, in jail, and was the one person who could expose the “Oswald Project" (HARVEY and LEE) and directly link Ruby and CIA operatives to the assassination of President Kennedy. Frank Sheeran, an alleged hitman, recalled a conversation he had with former Teamsters boss Jimmy Hoffa. During the conversation, Hoffa claimed that Ruby was assigned the task of coordinating police officers who were loyal to Ruby to murder Oswald while he was in their custody. After Oswald was taken to jail Ruby was given a choice to either finish the job himself or forfeit his life. Within hours of HARVEY Oswald's arrest Ruby began to stalk him and look for an opportunity to get close enough to shoot him. Around 7:30 PM Ruby tried to enter Capt. Fritz's office when Oswald was being questioned, but was stopped by two uniformed officers. At 10:30 PM Ruby stopped at Phil's Delicatessen to purchase sandwiches and make phone calls. One of the phone calls was overheard by delicatessen employee John Frickstad. During the call Ruby said, “If anything should come up he (Ruby) could be reached at the radio station (Gordon McLendon's KLIF radio).” Ruby took the sandwiches and drove to Dallas City Hall where District Attorney Henry Wade was giving a press conference (11:15 PM). When Wade said that Oswald was a member of the “Free Cuba Committee," a group populated by CIA assets and supporters such as Clare Booth Luce, Admiral Arleigh Burke, and Hal Hendrix, Jack Ruby corrected him and said, “that's 'Fair Play for Cuba Committee,' Henry.” Newsreel footage from WFAA-TV (Dallas) and NBC shows that during the press conference Ruby was impersonating a news reporter (probably KLIF radio). Some speculate that Ruby may have hoped to kill Oswald that night at the press conference. After killing Oswald, Ruby told the FBI that he had his loaded snub-nosed Colt Cobra .38 revolver in his right-hand pocket during the press conference. The following day (Sat., Nov 23) Ruby arrived at the Allright Parking Garage between 1:30 PM and 2:00 PM and asked to use the telephone. He phoned the KLIF “hotline," known only to radio station personnel, and asked if any KLIF newsmen were at City Hall. After completing the call, Ruby left and within a few minutes called Thomas Brown, the manager of the parking garage. He told Brown that two men would soon stop by the garage and ask for him (Ruby). Ruby asked Brown to tell the men to contact him at KLIF radio. The two unidentified men soon arrived and Brown relayed the message. Around 3:00 PM Ruby returned to the parking garage and again telephoned KLIF radio, spoke with Garnett Hallmark and said, “I understand they are moving Oswald over to the county jail ... you know I'll be there.” At 4:00 PM a WBAP news crew was outside of the police station waiting for the transfer of Oswald to the county jail. Ruby approached a WBAP engineer and cameraman and said that he knew DA Henry Wade and offered to get information for them. Ruby was apparently trying to pose as a news reporter to once again gain access to the police station and to Oswald. After Ruby learned that Oswald was to be transferred to the county jail the next morning, he left the area. Shortly after midnight, at 2:15 AM (Sunday, Nov 24) Deputy McCoy, of the Dallas County Sheriff's office, received a call from a man who said that his group was going to kill Oswald during his transfer to the county jail. Fifteen minutes later (2:30 AM) an unknown individual telephoned the Dallas FBI office, spoke with SA Vernon Glossup, and said, “We are going to kill the man who killed the President.” At 3:00 AM Dallas Police Officer Billy Grammer received a phone call from a familiar voice warning him that Oswald would be killed if the police didn't transfer him in secret. Grammar was home the next morning and watched on television as his friend, Jack Ruby, shot and killed Oswald. Grammar gave a sworn affidavit to the Dallas Police in which he identified Ruby as the man who called the police station at 3:00 AM. Grammar was never asked to testify before the Warren Commission. It appears that Ruby, ordered to kill HARVEY Oswald, was trying to find a way to avoid his assignment by warning the Sheriff's office, the FBI, and Dallas Police that Oswald would be killed. But he was unsuccessful. The next morning, at 12:21 AM (CST), the Dallas Police escorted Oswald through the police basement in full view of reporters and TV cameras. Jack Ruby stepped out from a crowd and fired his .38 revolver into Oswald's abdomen, fatally wounding him. The shooting, broadcast live from the Dallas Police station, was seen by millions of television viewers.SWALD) wearing a dark brown long sleeve shirt in the Texas Theater. Rowe's close relationship with Jack Ruby may be the answer. Theater patron George Applin said that he saw Jack Ruby sitting in a seat at the back of the theater as Oswald was being subdued and arrested by police. At the Texas Theater: POLICE IN THE LOWER AREA. When Johnny Brewer opened the rear exit door of the theater, the police were waiting in the alley. Brewer claimed that he pointed out (HARVEY) Oswald to the police inside the theater. However, this may not be true. A very close friend of Jack Ruby's, Tommy Rowe, worked at Hardy's Shoe Store with Brewer. In 1964 Rowe told friends, relatives, and JFK researchers that it was he, NOT Brewer, who pointed out (HARVEY) Oswald to the police in the dark of the Texas Theater. Rowe was so close to Jack Ruby that Rowe moved into Ruby's apartment when Ruby went to jail for killing HARVEY Oswald. (Click here to see Midlothian Mirror editorial about Tommy Rowe.) (Click here for a 3/1/68 Los Angeles Free Press interview with Penn Jones and Roger Craig also discussing Tommy Rowe.) Unfortunately, Tommy Rowe was never interviewed by the DPD or FBI or WC or HSCA. It is worth repeating that in 1967 the New Orleans District Attorney's office interviewed Tommy Rowe, who lived in Apt. 206 at 223 S. Ewing (the same apartment occupied by Jack Ruby in 1963). Mr. Rowe said that he told shoe store manager Johnny Brewer that he saw a man wear­ing a brown shirt enter the Texas Theater on the afternoon of November 22, 1963. If Rowe's statement is true then Johnny Brewer never saw the man in the brown shirt in front of his store, enter the theater, nor did he point out (HARVEY) to the police. After the assassination: Following the assassination Jack Ruby was now confronted with his worst nightmare. HARVEY Oswald was still alive, in jail, and was the one person who could expose the “Oswald Project" (HARVEY and LEE) and directly link Ruby and CIA operatives to the assassination of President Kennedy. Frank Sheeran, an alleged hitman, recalled a conversation he had with former Teamsters boss Jimmy Hoffa. During the conversation, Hoffa claimed that Ruby was assigned the task of coordinating police officers who were loyal to Ruby to murder Oswald while he was in their custody. After Oswald was taken to jail Ruby was given a choice to either finish the job himself or forfeit his life. Within hours of HARVEY Oswald's arrest Ruby began to stalk him and look for an opportunity to get close enough to shoot him. Around 7:30 PM Ruby tried to enter Capt. Fritz's office when Oswald was being questioned, but was stopped by two uniformed officers. At 10:30 PM Ruby stopped at Phil's Delicatessen to purchase sandwiches and make phone calls. One of the phone calls was overheard by delicatessen employee John Frickstad. During the call Ruby said, “If anything should come up he (Ruby) could be reached at the radio station (Gordon McLendon's KLIF radio).” Ruby took the sandwiches and drove to Dallas City Hall where District Attorney Henry Wade was giving a press conference (11:15 PM). When Wade said that Oswald was a member of the “Free Cuba Committee," a group populated by CIA assets and supporters such as Clare Booth Luce, Admiral Arleigh Burke, and Hal Hendrix, Jack Ruby corrected him and said, “that's 'Fair Play for Cuba Committee,' Henry.” Newsreel footage from WFAA-TV (Dallas) and NBC shows that during the press conference Ruby was impersonating a news reporter (probably KLIF radio). Some speculate that Ruby may have hoped to kill Oswald that night at the press conference. After killing Oswald, Ruby told the FBI that he had his loaded snub-nosed Colt Cobra .38 revolver in his right-hand pocket during the press conference. The following day (Sat., Nov 23) Ruby arrived at the Allright Parking Garage between 1:30 PM and 2:00 PM and asked to use the telephone. He phoned the KLIF “hotline," known only to radio station personnel, and asked if any KLIF newsmen were at City Hall. After completing the call, Ruby left and within a few minutes called Thomas Brown, the manager of the parking garage. He told Brown that two men would soon stop by the garage and ask for him (Ruby). Ruby asked Brown to tell the men to contact him at KLIF radio. The two unidentified men soon arrived and Brown relayed the message. Around 3:00 PM Ruby returned to the parking garage and again telephoned KLIF radio, spoke with Garnett Hallmark and said, “I understand they are moving Oswald over to the county jail ... you know I'll be there.” At 4:00 PM a WBAP news crew was outside of the police station waiting for the transfer of Oswald to the county jail. Ruby approached a WBAP engineer and cameraman and said that he knew DA Henry Wade and offered to get information for them. Ruby was apparently trying to pose as a news reporter to once again gain access to the police station and to Oswald. After Ruby learned that Oswald was to be transferred to the county jail the next morning, he left the area. Shortly after midnight, at 2:15 AM (Sunday, Nov 24) Deputy McCoy, of the Dallas County Sheriff's office, received a call from a man who said that his group was going to kill Oswald during his transfer to the county jail. Fifteen minutes later (2:30 AM) an unknown individual telephoned the Dallas FBI office, spoke with SA Vernon Glossup, and said, “We are going to kill the man who killed the President.” At 3:00 AM Dallas Police Officer Billy Grammer received a phone call from a familiar voice warning him that Oswald would be killed if the police didn't transfer him in secret. Grammar was home the next morning and watched on television as his friend, Jack Ruby, shot and killed Oswald. Grammar gave a sworn affidavit to the Dallas Police in which he identified Ruby as the man who called the police station at 3:00 AM. Grammar was never asked to testify before the Warren Commission. It appears that Ruby, ordered to kill HARVEY Oswald, was trying to find a way to avoid his assignment by warning the Sheriff's office, the FBI, and Dallas Police that Oswald would be killed. But he was unsuccessful. The next morning, at 12:21 AM (CST), the Dallas Police escorted Oswald through the police basement in full view of reporters and TV cameras. Jack Ruby stepped out from a crowd and fired his .38 revolver into Oswald's abdomen, fatally wounding him. The shooting, broadcast live from the Dallas Police station, was seen by millions of television viewers. --Above excerpted from John Armstrong’s writings at HarveyandLee.net. Copyright © 1999-2016 by John Armstrong

Jack Ruby, Oswald, and the murder of JFK Since October 1963, a three-man musical "combo" group was performing in Ruby's club that consisted of John Anderson (trumpet), Bill Willis (drums), and William Simmons (piano). The small group worked only four hours a day, from 9 PM to 1 AM. Curiously, and without explanation, Willis and Simmons lived fifteen miles away from the Carousel Club, in a house located at 2530 W. 5th in Irving, TX., just 200 feet west on the opposite side of the street from Ruth Paine (2515 W. 5th). When Ruby shot HARVEY Oswald, Nancy Powell (Tammi True) told the WC that she saw Bill Willis (drummer) near the police station. Neither Willis nor Simmons were interviewed by the WC. 12 hours before the assassination: In the early morning hours of November 22, some 12 hours before the assassination, Mary Lawrence was working at the B & B Restaurant, just two doors from Jack Ruby's Vegas Club. She was the head waitress and had known Jack Ruby for the past eight years. She and the night cashier saw Jack Ruby and a person identical to Lee Harvey Oswald in the restaurant shortly after midnight on November 22. Following the assassination, she reported this to the Dallas Police and received a phone call on December 3 from an unknown male who stated, she said, "If you don't want to die, you better get out of town." When subsequently questioned by the Dallas Police, Mary Lawrence stated that the man with Ruby was "positively Lee Harvey Oswald." Neither Mary Lawrence nor her friend were interviewed by the Warren Commission. Adding some credibility to Mary Lawrence's report is the fact that few people in America knew back then what we know today--that Jack Ruby and (LEE) Harvey Oswald were seen together by many witnesses, in different locations, prior to the assassination, who gave statements to that effect to Dallas and D.C. authorities. A few minutes after the assassination: A few minutes after the shooting Victoria Adams, who worked in the TSBD, told the Warren Commission that she observed a man standing on the corner of Elm and Houston a few minutes after the assassination who may have been Jack Ruby. Across the street Mrs. Louis Velez, and two co-workers, saw Ruby walking up and down the street near the TSBD. When HARVEY Oswald came out of the building, they saw Ruby give him a pistol (perhaps, as was reported, a pistol with a defective firing pin). These women knew Oswald, who ate with them at a nearby restaurant, and both were acquainted with Jack Ruby. Mrs. Velez told her story of Ruby giving Oswald a pistol to her mother (Mrs. Evelyn Harris), who was interviewed by FBI agent Manning on 11/30/63. Neither Mrs. Velez nor her co-workers were interviewed by the DPD or FBI and given the opportunity to confirm or deny their story. If their story is true, then Ruby may have been setting up HARVEY Oswald, by giving him a pistol (with a defective firing pin) to provide justification for the police if and when they shot him. On Friday evening (11/22/63) District Attorney Henry Wade told news reporters, “when a Dallas Police officer was arresting him the pistol was snapped at another police officer's head and didn't fire.” (@ 1:35) LEE Oswald just after 1 pm near Ruby’s apartment: About 1:03 PM LEE Oswald was seen by several witnesses in the Oak Cliff suburb of Dallas walking west near the corner of 10th St. & Marsalis--more than a mile south of HARVEY Oswald's rooming house. LEE Oswald was only three blocks north of Jack Ruby's apartment (223 S. Ewing), where he had been seen the night before by Helen McIntosh, a guest of Ruby's next door neighbor. Four blocks from Ruby's apartment, and only one block east of 10th & Patton, was a small, single story house at 511 E. 10th that was owned by attorney Dick Loomis, Sr., and his wife. Mrs. Loomis was a housewife and President of the Oak Cliff Fine Arts Club. She told FBI agents Griffin and Carter that a young couple, who were identical to LEE Harvey and Marina Oswald, lived next door in an apartment complex at 507 E. 10th (13 apartments) about one week before the assassination. Mrs. Loomis saw Marina and her infant child in front of her home and recalled that Marina had jet black hair (at this time Marina had two children). She said Marina wore very plain clothing and on one occasion wore a light blouse and plaid skirt and on another occasion a dark blouse and the same plaid skirt. She once saw a heavy-set man visit the apartment next door and thought it may have been Ruby. FBI agent James Hosty, who never met Oswald face-to-face prior to November 22, 1963, told fellow FBI agent Carver Gayton that he left notes under Oswald's apartment door. But the Warren Commission reported that Oswald lived either at his rooming house (1026 N. Beckley) or at Ruth Paine's house in Irving, TX, neither of which was an apartment. Hosty did not leave notes at Oswald's rooming house or at Ruth Paine's, but he could have left notes under the door at several of LEE Oswald's previous apartments, including 507 E. 10th, 1106 Diceman Avenue, or an apartment in Oak Lawn that Ruby rented for Oswald (according to DPD informant T-1). Ruby’s close friend Tommy Rowe fingered “Oswald” Tommy Rowe, a very close friend of Jack Ruby's, worked at Hardy's Shoe Store with Johnny Brewer. In 1964 Rowe told researcher/publisher Penn Jones that it was he who told shoe store manager Johnny Brewer that he saw a man wearing a brown shirt enter the Texas Theater (click here to see Midlothian Mirror editorial about Tommy Rowe) . Inside the darkened theater Rowe claims that it was he (NOT Brewer) who directed the police to the man wearing the long sleeved brown shirt--HARVEY Oswald. Rowe was never interviewed by the DPD or FBI. For years after the assassination Rowe told friends, relatives, and JFK researchers that it was he, NOT Brewer, who pointed out (HARVEY) Oswald to the police in the dark of the Texas Theater. Rowe was so close to Jack Ruby that he moved into Ruby's apartment when Ruby went to jail for killing HARVEY Oswald . In 1967 the New Orleans District Attorney's office interviewed Tommy Rowe, who lived in Apt. 206 at 223 S. Ewing (the apartment next to the one occupied by Jack Ruby in 1963). If Rowe's statement is true then Johnny Brewer lied to Julia Postal, lied to the police, lied to the FBI, and lied to the WC. He never followed the man in the brown shirt, or anyone else, to the theater. The man responsible for getting the police to the Texas theater appears to have been Jack Ruby's friend, Tommy Rowe. And it appears that Johnny Brewer may have been merely a "wannabe" and not a co-conspirator. NOTE: If Rowe's story is true, then we have to wonder how Rowe knew about a man (HARVEY OFollowing the assassination Jack Ruby was now confronted with his worst nightmare. HARVEY Oswald was still alive, in jail, and was the one person who could expose the “Oswald Project" (HARVEY and LEE) and directly link Ruby and CIA operatives to the assassination of President Kennedy. Frank Sheeran, an alleged hitman, recalled a conversation he had with former Teamsters boss Jimmy Hoffa. During the conversation, Hoffa claimed that Ruby was assigned the task of coordinating police officers who were loyal to Ruby to murder Oswald while he was in their custody. After Oswald was taken to jail Ruby was given a choice to either finish the job himself or forfeit his life. Within hours of HARVEY Oswald's arrest Ruby began to stalk him and look for an opportunity to get close enough to shoot him. Around 7:30 PM Ruby tried to enter Capt. Fritz's office when Oswald was being questioned, but was stopped by two uniformed officers. At 10:30 PM Ruby stopped at Phil's Delicatessen to purchase sandwiches and make phone calls. One of the phone calls was overheard by delicatessen employee John Frickstad. During the call Ruby said, “If anything should come up he (Ruby) could be reached at the radio station (Gordon McLendon's KLIF radio).” Ruby took the sandwiches and drove to Dallas City Hall where District Attorney Henry Wade was giving a press conference (11:15 PM). When Wade said that Oswald was a member of the “Free Cuba Committee," a group populated by CIA assets and supporters such as Clare Booth Luce, Admiral Arleigh Burke, and Hal Hendrix, Jack Ruby corrected him and said, “that's 'Fair Play for Cuba Committee,' Henry.” Newsreel footage from WFAA-TV (Dallas) and NBC shows that during the press conference Ruby was impersonating a news reporter (probably KLIF radio). Some speculate that Ruby may have hoped to kill Oswald that night at the press conference. After killing Oswald, Ruby told the FBI that he had his loaded snub-nosed Colt Cobra .38 revolver in his right-hand pocket during the press conference. The following day (Sat., Nov 23) Ruby arrived at the Allright Parking Garage between 1:30 PM and 2:00 PM and asked to use the telephone. He phoned the KLIF “hotline," known only to radio station personnel, and asked if any KLIF newsmen were at City Hall. After completing the call, Ruby left and within a few minutes called Thomas Brown, the manager of the parking garage. He told Brown that two men would soon stop by the garage and ask for him (Ruby). Ruby asked Brown to tell the men to contact him at KLIF radio. The two unidentified men soon arrived and Brown relayed the message. Around 3:00 PM Ruby returned to the parking garage and again telephoned KLIF radio, spoke with Garnett Hallmark and said, “I understand they are moving Oswald over to the county jail ... you know I'll be there.” At 4:00 PM a WBAP news crew was outside of the police station waiting for the transfer of Oswald to the county jail. Ruby approached a WBAP engineer and cameraman and said that he knew DA Henry Wade and offered to get information for them. Ruby was apparently trying to pose as a news reporter to once again gain access to the police station and to Oswald. After Ruby learned that Oswald was to be transferred to the county jail the next morning, he left the area. Shortly after midnight, at 2:15 AM (Sunday, Nov 24) Deputy McCoy, of the Dallas County Sheriff's office, received a call from a man who said that his group was going to kill Oswald during his transfer to the county jail. Fifteen minutes later (2:30 AM) an unknown individual telephoned the Dallas FBI office, spoke with SA Vernon Glossup, and said, “We are going to kill the man who killed the President.” At 3:00 AM Dallas Police Officer Billy Grammer received a phone call from a familiar voice warning him that Oswald would be killed if the police didn't transfer him in secret. Grammar was home the next morning and watched on television as his friend, Jack Ruby, shot and killed Oswald. Grammar gave a sworn affidavit to the Dallas Police in which he identified Ruby as the man who called the police station at 3:00 AM. Grammar was never asked to testify before the Warren Commission. It appears that Ruby, ordered to kill HARVEY Oswald, was trying to find a way to avoid his assignment by warning the Sheriff's office, the FBI, and Dallas Police that Oswald would be killed. But he was unsuccessful. The next morning, at 12:21 AM (CST), the Dallas Police escorted Oswald through the police basement in full view of reporters and TV cameras. Jack Ruby stepped out from a crowd and fired his .38 revolver into Oswald's abdomen, fatally wounding him. The shooting, broadcast live from the Dallas Police station, was seen by millions of television viewers.SWALD) wearing a dark brown long sleeve shirt in the Texas Theater. Rowe's close relationship with Jack Ruby may be the answer. Theater patron George Applin said that he saw Jack Ruby sitting in a seat at the back of the theater as Oswald was being subdued and arrested by police. At the Texas Theater: POLICE IN THE LOWER AREA. When Johnny Brewer opened the rear exit door of the theater, the police were waiting in the alley. Brewer claimed that he pointed out (HARVEY) Oswald to the police inside the theater. However, this may not be true. A very close friend of Jack Ruby's, Tommy Rowe, worked at Hardy's Shoe Store with Brewer. In 1964 Rowe told friends, relatives, and JFK researchers that it was he, NOT Brewer, who pointed out (HARVEY) Oswald to the police in the dark of the Texas Theater. Rowe was so close to Jack Ruby that Rowe moved into Ruby's apartment when Ruby went to jail for killing HARVEY Oswald. (Click here to see Midlothian Mirror editorial about Tommy Rowe.) (Click here for a 3/1/68 Los Angeles Free Press interview with Penn Jones and Roger Craig also discussing Tommy Rowe.) Unfortunately, Tommy Rowe was never interviewed by the DPD or FBI or WC or HSCA. It is worth repeating that in 1967 the New Orleans District Attorney's office interviewed Tommy Rowe, who lived in Apt. 206 at 223 S. Ewing (the same apartment occupied by Jack Ruby in 1963). Mr. Rowe said that he told shoe store manager Johnny Brewer that he saw a man wear­ing a brown shirt enter the Texas Theater on the afternoon of November 22, 1963. If Rowe's statement is true then Johnny Brewer never saw the man in the brown shirt in front of his store, enter the theater, nor did he point out (HARVEY) to the police. After the assassination: Following the assassination Jack Ruby was now confronted with his worst nightmare. HARVEY Oswald was still alive, in jail, and was the one person who could expose the “Oswald Project" (HARVEY and LEE) and directly link Ruby and CIA operatives to the assassination of President Kennedy. Frank Sheeran, an alleged hitman, recalled a conversation he had with former Teamsters boss Jimmy Hoffa. During the conversation, Hoffa claimed that Ruby was assigned the task of coordinating police officers who were loyal to Ruby to murder Oswald while he was in their custody. After Oswald was taken to jail Ruby was given a choice to either finish the job himself or forfeit his life. Within hours of HARVEY Oswald's arrest Ruby began to stalk him and look for an opportunity to get close enough to shoot him. Around 7:30 PM Ruby tried to enter Capt. Fritz's office when Oswald was being questioned, but was stopped by two uniformed officers. At 10:30 PM Ruby stopped at Phil's Delicatessen to purchase sandwiches and make phone calls. One of the phone calls was overheard by delicatessen employee John Frickstad. During the call Ruby said, “If anything should come up he (Ruby) could be reached at the radio station (Gordon McLendon's KLIF radio).” Ruby took the sandwiches and drove to Dallas City Hall where District Attorney Henry Wade was giving a press conference (11:15 PM). When Wade said that Oswald was a member of the “Free Cuba Committee," a group populated by CIA assets and supporters such as Clare Booth Luce, Admiral Arleigh Burke, and Hal Hendrix, Jack Ruby corrected him and said, “that's 'Fair Play for Cuba Committee,' Henry.” Newsreel footage from WFAA-TV (Dallas) and NBC shows that during the press conference Ruby was impersonating a news reporter (probably KLIF radio). Some speculate that Ruby may have hoped to kill Oswald that night at the press conference. After killing Oswald, Ruby told the FBI that he had his loaded snub-nosed Colt Cobra .38 revolver in his right-hand pocket during the press conference. The following day (Sat., Nov 23) Ruby arrived at the Allright Parking Garage between 1:30 PM and 2:00 PM and asked to use the telephone. He phoned the KLIF “hotline," known only to radio station personnel, and asked if any KLIF newsmen were at City Hall. After completing the call, Ruby left and within a few minutes called Thomas Brown, the manager of the parking garage. He told Brown that two men would soon stop by the garage and ask for him (Ruby). Ruby asked Brown to tell the men to contact him at KLIF radio. The two unidentified men soon arrived and Brown relayed the message. Around 3:00 PM Ruby returned to the parking garage and again telephoned KLIF radio, spoke with Garnett Hallmark and said, “I understand they are moving Oswald over to the county jail ... you know I'll be there.” At 4:00 PM a WBAP news crew was outside of the police station waiting for the transfer of Oswald to the county jail. Ruby approached a WBAP engineer and cameraman and said that he knew DA Henry Wade and offered to get information for them. Ruby was apparently trying to pose as a news reporter to once again gain access to the police station and to Oswald. After Ruby learned that Oswald was to be transferred to the county jail the next morning, he left the area. Shortly after midnight, at 2:15 AM (Sunday, Nov 24) Deputy McCoy, of the Dallas County Sheriff's office, received a call from a man who said that his group was going to kill Oswald during his transfer to the county jail. Fifteen minutes later (2:30 AM) an unknown individual telephoned the Dallas FBI office, spoke with SA Vernon Glossup, and said, “We are going to kill the man who killed the President.” At 3:00 AM Dallas Police Officer Billy Grammer received a phone call from a familiar voice warning him that Oswald would be killed if the police didn't transfer him in secret. Grammar was home the next morning and watched on television as his friend, Jack Ruby, shot and killed Oswald. Grammar gave a sworn affidavit to the Dallas Police in which he identified Ruby as the man who called the police station at 3:00 AM. Grammar was never asked to testify before the Warren Commission. It appears that Ruby, ordered to kill HARVEY Oswald, was trying to find a way to avoid his assignment by warning the Sheriff's office, the FBI, and Dallas Police that Oswald would be killed. But he was unsuccessful. The next morning, at 12:21 AM (CST), the Dallas Police escorted Oswald through the police basement in full view of reporters and TV cameras. Jack Ruby stepped out from a crowd and fired his .38 revolver into Oswald's abdomen, fatally wounding him. The shooting, broadcast live from the Dallas Police station, was seen by millions of television viewers. --Above excerpted from John Armstrong’s writings at HarveyandLee.net. Copyright © 1999-2016 by John Armstrong

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To Denny Zartman, According to Newspapers.com, between 1945 and 1962 “organized crime” was mentioned in the American newspapers it covers 29,464 times, and “mafia” was mentioned 36,469 times. Over the Labor Day weekend Ruby was seen at the Tropicana Hotel by Jack Marcus, Sherwin Braun, and Jay Bishov, attorneys from Chicago.81 NOTE: The Havana gambling casinos were owned by the mob, and Ruby’s association with McWillie and the Tropicana Hotel allowed the Warren Commission to assert that Ruby was connected to the mob. Had the Commission probed further they would have learned that Ruby’s connections to Cuba, like those of Robert McKeown, centered around running CIA-supplied arms and supplies to Castro, and had little or nothing to do with the mob. The HSCA concluded that the FBI was seriously delinquent in investigating the Ruby-underworld connections. 82 --From Harvey and Lee p. 244, Copyright © 2003 by John Armstrong

Absolutely, but the red hot Ruby connections on and around November 22, 1963 were not with the Mob but with KLIF radio founder Gordon McLendon, a former Naval Intelligence officer who was a close friend and confidant of David Atlee Phillips. Ruby called McLendon’s unlisted phone number the day of the assassination. He was overheard that very afternoon saying he could be reached at KLIF. He continued writing letters to McLendon even from prison. In 1975 McLendon and David Atlee Phillips formed the Association of Former Intelligence Officers (AFIO). The two men had known one another since childhood. And it was Phillips who was spotted by Antonio Veciana talking to LEE Oswald at the Southland building in Dallas in the summer of 1963. And so we are starring at a direct chain of command from CIA’s David Atlee Phillips to former intel officer Gordon McLendon to McLendon’s close friend Jack Ruby to the REAL Lee Harvey Oswald, the guy who framed the Russian-speaking schmuck for the murder of JFK! And we’re worrying about Al Capone? Sheesh!

It's pretty clear that Jack Ruby/Rubenstein was deeply involved in the illegal trafficking of arms to Cuba in both the early and late 1950s. Does anyone think this could have possibly escaped the attention of the CIA? Just about everyone else associated with Cuban arms shipments was busted, but not our boy Jack! Why did American Intel protect Jack Ruby?

Fair enough, and you may be right, Chris. I'm just astounded how not a scintilla of hard, contemporaneous evidence for Ruby's Mob connection seems to exist. His intelligence connections, on the other hand, appear to be fertile territory for research.

In other words, you can't point to a single news report, police report, or anything else issued prior to 11/25/1963 indicating our man had Mafia links. I can't either.

Yeah, Ruby's involvement in this thing goes much deeper than we previously thought. There is clear evidence that he knew the real Lee Harvey Oswald, and some evidence that he may have been the man who gave instructions to Oswald on how to frame the Russian-speaking impostor. Here's the real Lee Harvey Oswald at the Carousel Club: On the Jack Ruby page at my website, here's how John Armstrong summarized the evidence that Ruby knew Oswald: *In the summer of 1963 Dorothy Marcum was dating Ruby and her aunt worked for Ruby. Dorothy told the FBI that LEE Oswald worked for Ruby during June and July and the two men definitely knew each other. *Ruby was interviewing Francis Irene Hise for a job as a waitress when a young man entered the Carousel Club and Ruby said “Hi, Ozzie” to the young man. After she was hired Miss Hise served drinks to “Ozzie," whom she recognized after the assassination as LHO. *Another employee, Clyde Malcolm Limbough, worked for Ruby three years and saw Oswald in Ruby's office on several occasions. *Helen Kay Smith (“Pixie Lynn”), who worked at the Carousel, told the Dallas Police that she saw Ruby and Oswald together on several occasions. *Other employees of Ruby who saw Oswald in the Carousel Club were William Crowe, Wally Weston, Dixie Lynn, and Kathy Kay. *Robert Roy was Ruby's auto mechanic and said that Oswald used to drop off Ruby's car for repairs. Roy then drove Oswald back to Ruby's “burlesque house.” *Ruby parked his car at Gibbs Auto Service and occasionally allowed friends and associates to borrow his car. Leon Woods was the manager of Gibbs and kept a “check-in and check-out” book that listed the names of people who took Ruby's car from the garage. Mr. Woods gave the book to the FBI following the assassination of President Kennedy, which the FBI later denied. *During the last week of July (1963) Western Union employee Marshall Hicks delivered several telegrams addressed to “LEE Harvey Oswald” at the Rotary Apartments, 1501-1503 W. 7th St. in Dallas (while HARVEY and Marina were living in New Orleans). The FBI made no attempt to locate copies of these telegrams. *DPD Detective H.M. Hart, of the Criminal Intelligence Division, received information from a Dallas Police confidential informant who knew Ruby. The informant said that in September (1963) Ruby rented an apartment at 223 S. Ewing for LEE Oswald. NOTE: Journalist Dorothy Kilgallen wrote in the New York Journal American (June 6, 1964): “It is known that 10 persons have signed sworn depositions to the Warren Commission that they knew Oswald and Ruby to have been acquainted.” At 20, "Little Lynn" (in private life, Karen Carlin) was Jack's youngest stripper. With long locks of artificially colored gray hair, Lynn had the body of swimsuit contestant—but, on stage, wore little other than a big smile, pink heels and a matching G-string. On November 24, 1963, Little Lynn told U.S. Secret Service agent Roger Warner that she, in his words, "was under the impression that Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby, and other individuals unknown to her, were involved in a plot to assassinate President Kennedy and that she would be killed if she gave any information to authorities." Lynn reportedly died of a gunshot wound in Houston in 1964.

Do some research, Chris. Support your often expressed assertion that Jack Ruby was a Mobster! I've searched and searched news reports prior to 11/25/1963 and found NO EVIDENCE AT ALL of Jack Ruby's Mob ties! Prove me wrong.... Here's your chance!

Hey, I'm a long-suffering card-carrying Democrat and no fan of Donald Trump or Roger Stone. But that doesn't mean Stone is a... uh... "mountebank." (What big words you use. Why not just speak plainly?) Here is the Congressional document that support's Stone's story: For the second time, can you produce a single news story from before 11/24/1963 indicating "Jack Ruby" or "Jacob Rubenstein" or "Jack Rubenstein" was a Mobster? Any ole' Jack Ruby or Jacob Rubenstein or Jack Rubenstein will do!

Are you accusing Roger Stone of the crime of forging a U.S. Congressional document? Can you show me a newspaper report prior to Ruby's arrest for killing "Oswald" indicating he is a Mobster?

I can see it too, though I posted a clearer image earlier. Are people saying the HUAC staff member's affidavit is a forgery too? (I've been away a few days.) Nixon aide Roger Stone told Jefferson Morley, "Nixon recognized Jack Ruby and knew him since 1947 as a 'Johnson man.'” According to Morley, Stone also said he has “a direct quote from Nixon who acknowledged in 1989 that his aide Murray Chotiner brought Ruby to him in 1947 and told him LBJ wanted Ruby hired as an informant for the House UnAmerican Activities Committee,” otherwise known as HUAC. Remember the name Murray Chotiner. On October 7, 1955 “Lee Harvey Oswald” supposedly delivered a note to Warren Easton High School in New Orleans that was found in his school file after the assassination. The note read, "Becaus (sic) we are moving to San Diego in the middle of this month Lee must quit school now. Also, please send by him any papers such as his birth certificate that you may have. Thank you. Sincirely (sic).... Mrs. M. Oswald." Where was Murray Chotiner during this period? In California, where he was active in state politics and the early state and national campaigns of Richard Nixon. He was hardly well known outside of the state. This Murray Chotiner connection gets interesting. Texas Employment Commission employee Laura Kittrell swore that two different men identifying themselves as “Lee Harvey Oswald” appeared in her office in 1963. Both men, she said, had similar appearances but different mannerisms. One of Oswalds, she also said, became excited and angry when he overheard a women refer to Murray Chotiner. No doubt someone here will accuse both Roger Stone and Ms. Kittrell of several unkind things. But if both were telling the truth with some degree of accuracy, it sure is a small world when it comes to the Kennedy assassination!

It's interesting how the initial newspaper reports on Ruby failed show any substantial link between Ruby and the Mob. The initial AP report on 11/25/63 mentioned a number of arrests for Ruby, but none suggested a connection to organized crime. The UPI report from the same day was already suggesting something we do know today, namely that Ruby enjoyed hanging out with cops. Can you name a real Mobster that enjoyed hanging out with cops and beat reporters? Searching U.S. newspapers from 1945 through 11/24/1963 yielded several hundred hits for "Jacob or Jack Rubenstein" and "Jack Ruby," but not a single on linked our man with the Mob. The closest was a "Jack Rubenstein" involved in a New York basketball fixing scandal from the early 1950, who came up in several hundred links. Since, however, he was described as a "Brooklyn fruit peddler," I sincerely doubt he's our man. Can anyone show me a newspaper report from the 1950s or early 1960s linking Jack Ruby to organized crime? Personally, I think this issue deserves a closer look along these lines: Just saying....

Chris: Ah, we’re not nearly as far apart as I thought. John and I think the “Oswald Project” didn’t become entangled in the plans to assassinate JFK until the late spring and summer of 1963, when Russian-speaking “Lee HARVEY Oswald” began making plans to pass out Fair Play for Cuba literature in front of Clay Shaw’s Trade Mart in New Orleans. Some researchers, among them Anthony Summers in his 2002 book The Kennedy Conspiracy, believe that released documents show how a CIA effort led by David Atlee Phillips was conducted to infiltrate and discredit the FPCC. I believe, and I think John A. agrees, that the FPCC was largely a creation of the CIA and was designed more to discredit “Lee HARVEY Oswald” than anything else, to make him appear to be an agent of Fidel Castro. Phillips’ role here should be emphasized. Many on this forum will probably agree that the immediate purpose of the Kennedy assassination and the framing of “Oswald” was to provoke an invasion of Cuba. It probably would have worked if LBJ hadn’t ordered everyone to bury everything and blame a couple of Lone Nuts for the death of JFK AND “Oswald.” I am angry that the Mob has been used as a scapegoat in this sordid case for more than fifty years. Anyone, including Mobsters, obviously could have played a subordinate role, but I suspect angry Cubans could be convinced to shoot at a sitting president in broad daylight much more easily than professional hitmen just in it for the money. I agree wholeheartedly about Dulles and Angleton, and I’ll add Phillips to the short list. I’m not convinced about the evidence pointing to JCS members, but it sure seems possible some were in on it.