Ron Ecker

That looks like the clip. And it's not edited as far as I can tell. Now I don't try to listen to clips on the Internet because of a chronic ear condition - the sound quality is too abrasive. I depend on closed captions for everything I watch. And the closed captions on that clip state what he said: "Send me the Congress...." (emphasis added). It's FoxNews' own captions, right? Oh, but how many people are going to read those, eh?

CNN as a news network is the closest thing I can think of. I know it's considered leftist, a lot of its commentary may be slanted, but it doesn't tell flat-out lies as news to its viewers. At least I haven't heard one. It certainly hasn't had to fork out millions and millions of dollar for lying like FoxNews has. Now I’ll give you a good, up-to-date example of FoxNews telling blatant lies as news. I saw a FoxNews article (not on its website, which I do not visit, the article was republished by Microsoft Start--IOW as click bait, and against my better judgment I clicked on it). The article said that Biden, in campaigning for reelection, told an audience in Philadelphia, “Send me to Congress!” Wow, a prime example of dementia, right? All of the FoxNews faithful would certainly eat it up. The trouble is, there’s a video and a transcript of what Biden actually said: “Send me the Congress that I — can support this right" (referring to reproductive freedom). He stumbled a bit but was reiterating the same thing that he said in his State of the Union Address: “If Americans send me a Congress that supports the right to choose….” “Send me to Congress!” That’s real “fair and balanced” news reporting, isn’t it?

Jesse can't spell his own name right. There's only one T in waters. Wait, on second thought, he's even lying about his name.

Let us know what it says. I will not watch FoxNews. Well, maybe if you paid me I would. No, that wouldn't work either. I'm going to win Mega Millions tonight (a billion dollars).

I assume you've probably heard this joke, but perhaps some others here haven't. A JFK researcher dies and goes to heaven. He asks God, "Who killed JFK?" And God says, "I've got a theory about that."

You mean he took the bull by the horns?

I agree with Ron Paul that Allen Dulles on the WC is pretty good hint of such a conspiracy. Whenever Paul got around to noticing it.

Ron Paul should have raised a son who would know better than to get himself beaten up by a neighbor over yard work. (Or do we know that it was actually a neighbor who beat him up? It could have been the Deep State.)

It seems odd to me that the Deep State would go to any trouble to try to depose Trump beginning on January 6 when he had already been deposed on Election Day in November. Was the Deep State that afraid that Trump’s efforts to overthrow the government would succeed before the end of his term? One thing at least stands out. It was not the Deep State that stood before that partially armed Mob on January 6, fired it up and told it to march to Capitol Hill. It was Donald Trump and (the two whom I recall) his consigliere Rudy Giuliani and another Trump stooge lawyer whose name escapes me. So was Trump himself, along with the fellow traitors in his inner circle, the Deep State? There is nothing deep about Trump. Has there ever been a more hollow man?

When Chansley was tried in court, I'm sure that he must have had his defense argue as a mitigating circumstance the courtesy and accommodation provided to him by the Capitol Police in perpetrating his crime. Surely he would have so testified in his own defense. If not, either Chansley is certainly an idiot or he had an idiot for a lawyer.

If the video shows what you see as open complicity on the part of the officers, why do you think it is openly done? I would think that police complicity would be conducted covertly, and not for all the world to see. Look at the police complicity in Dallas as an example. Let's say that that was policeman Roscoe White shooting from behind the picket fence. At least he was behind the fence and not shooting from in front of it.

I did a quick web search on Jacob Chansley. From Wikipedia: "U.S. Capitol Police Chief Tom Manger... specifically took issue with (Tucker) Carlson's claim that Capitol Police officers acted as "tour guides" for Chansley. He maintained that Capitol Police officers were badly outnumbered and did their best to use de-escalation tactics to try to talk rioters into leaving the building." Sounds like a much more plausible explanation than the notion that some Capitol Police officers were themselves insurrectionists.

I wonder if Dylan found his JFK song "Murder Most Foul" in Weberman's trash.

Frazier might have beaten Fritz with some curtain rods that Oswald had forgotten and left in Frazier's car.

Weberman, right! I remember he got involved in JFK research.

I've got an idea for a song. Has anyone written "The Ballad of Jack Ruby" yet? (Who was the guy who went through Bob Dylan's garbage?)

By himself, I certainly agree with you. But he had the means and opportunity to help, if only as a false sponsor or whatever. It's possible that these Mob bosses just liked to brag with lies, like the demented Marcello saying that he did it or Trafficante allegedly saying (paraphasing), "We screwed up, we shouldn't have killed Giovanni, we should have killed Bobby." If nothing else it certainly makes sense (but of course with no evidence) that it was a Mob boss (whether Marcello, Trafficante, or Don Corleone) who made Jack Ruby an offer that he couldn't refuse.

Jim, I have not argued that Marcello was involved. I was simply pointing out, on the subject of Garrison, that Marcello is one of the “usual suspects,” whether there’s any evidence or not, and the rather noticeable way that Garrison ignored him with respect to suspects (whether due to lack of any evidence or perhaps something else). That is all. Why ask me for evidence that I don’t have about something that I haven’t claimed? I think the HSCA Report said it well, i.e. it wasn’t lying all the time: that Marcello had the motive, means, and opportunity, but it didn’t find any evidence. On the subject of Marcello’s dementia, it is worth noting that one of the early signs of dementia is loss of short-term memory but not of long-term memory. I don’t know or haven’t heard if simply making things up is a sign of dementia or not. But if Marcello was involved in the assassination, I imagine he was involved before any dementia, and if he claimed, when he had dementia, that he was involved, it could be because he had long-term memory of being involved despite his mental condition and wasn’t just making it up. Who knows?

Well, Nixon appears to have been set-up by the Watergate burglary, so I guess that could be called a coup. In fact there was a book about it called Silent Coup. Carter’s downfall, as I recall, was the Iran hostage crisis and the failed rescue attempt. His election loss could be called a coup only in the sense of the October Surprise (Reagan’s people allegedly conspiring with Iran to hold the hostages till after the election) that may have helped decide the election. As for Trump, his downfall was being Donald Trump. He didn’t need any help. The fact that he may now be returned to the White House says far more about today’s America than it does about Trump.

I remember Paul running for president. Specifically I remember seeing him in a debate with several other candidates. I was impressed by him being the only one in the group who sensibly pointed out that we (meaning the U.S.) "can't afford to do it." Unfortunately I can't remember what it was that we can't afford to do.

I thought so too. Didn't bother to look it up. There's a link with the "resigned" statement, but it goes to a subscription article (about "The CIA Theory").

He tells Tucker Carlson it was November 22. Paul believes the CIA was directly responsible, and he knew the republic was lost when Allen Dulles was appointed to the WC. Carlson says, "So the guy who was responsible for the murder was investigating the murder." Ron Paul Tells Tucker Carlson the Exact Date There ‘Was a Coup and We Lost Our Government’ (msn.com)

The idea of the assassination as a military coup always reminds me of two emotional episodes involving Maxwell Taylor, who in 1963 was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The episodes suggest guilt or remorse, unless we are to believe that the murder of a president by a lone nut, mobsters or Cubans was enough to make an Army general cry, not just months but years later. This is from “An American Soldier: The Wars of General Maxwell Taylor,” by his son John M. Taylor, pp. 290-291: “In mid-1964, just prior to his departure for Saigon, Taylor had several conversations with Elspeth Rostow, who interviewed him at his quarters for the Kennedy Library’s oral history series. All went smoothly until the subject of the assassination arose. According to Rostow, Taylor then broke down; for several minutes there was nothing on her tape except the sound of an occasional passing car. Once he had composed himself, the interview continued. “More than a decade later, at a family dinner, the subject turned to political dissent in the country under Nixon. Taylor had recently returned from a speaking engagement at a small New Jersey college, where hecklers had prevented him from speaking. He commented that Kennedy, had he lived, was the one person who might have preserved a degree of national cohesiveness. Then his voice broke; it was a moment before his normal self-control returned. Surrounded by his family, he had let his defenses down.”

Well, this is the kind of thing that makes you want to beat your head against the wall.

They must have shown Trump that Ted Cruz's daddy was not involved after all. Trump threw a bottle of ketchup against the wall and said, "No release!"