Kirk Gallaway

Paul, I'll grant you made an honest attempt to answer Leslie's questions that in part answers mine. Paul: What’s worse than Trump? Endless war for one. Yes that's what Talbot would tell you. But that's sort of a trap in thinking. As far as Ukraine, both Biden and Trump at first would have done identical things. That is let Putin invade and take Ukraine. Biden was prepared to do that but Zelensky said he didn't need to be provided exile, but needed U.S. and Nato assistance. Biden obliged and revived Nato assistance. It's not at all for sure whether Trump had the courage to resist Congress's will to help Ukraine, or he had no choice but to not help because he was so compromised by Putin, and/ or would have just let Nato sink because he didn't care about it anyway. After all, he could have quickly gotten out of Afghanistan when he first got into office, and released the JFK files, but he did neither of those either. He never proved to be that courageous in anything but rhetoric except trying to overthrow a legal election. As far as Israel. Trump has his Jared tie to Israel. Despite his bold claims that he could solve the Russia Ukraine problem in 5 minutes just getting together with Putin and Zelensky, His public statements made about Israel has been that the 2 sides just have "to play it out", which means more human suffering, and no attempt at a cease fire. It would be even a bloodier mess because there would be no will in Congress to avoid that! The only real opposition would be Bernie Sanders and a handful of lefties, so be careful what you wish for! You would never have heard Trump give rhetoric to a 2 state solution. He was completely behind Netanyahu and his right wing cabinet, which has in part lead to this war. Ok, I'm not holding my breathe, but if a year from now . Biden was actually able to set the region on what the world perceived as a peaceful steady road to a 2 state solution. He would be remembered as the only President in the post war era to a achieve a 2 state solution, which would probably make him go down as a great President. At a certain point, he's going to have to crack down on Israel, possibly withhold aid, and hope that when the smoke can clear that the Israeli people get rid of Netanyahu, and work with the neighboring countries of region for a lasting peace. But all the time that's currently passing is robbing him of credibility in the region. It's probably the most challenging feat any President could achieve since navigating the Cuban Missile Crisis, and you're certainly entitled to think Biden is completely inadequate to pull it off. But if all this mess, could be gradually played out right. All the memories of atrocities and suffering that should have, IMO stopped over a month ago would slowly recede in history's memory because after all history is written by the winners. But if the winners then have to give up their some of their land. As time goes on, all the death and destruction and loss of human life will be seen as a means to an end. As they are in all wars. JMO

I go to sign, and I see Kennedy24.com. How tasteless, Everything has to be political these days, doesn't it? Isn't this very myopic of him to link this to this issue to his campaign? His campaign shouldn't be exploiting this issue. I'm wondering how much his sisters and brothers who aren't enthusiastic about his candidacy feel about that. Paul:There are worse things than Trump, but my liberal friends, nearly all of them, are blinded by fear of what he would do if he was re-elected. Veering into politics Paul? Ok, Paul, because you're the one person here with vision, and know the best of all possible worlds, and you can read the tea leaves, tell us how their fears are unjustified?. I'm sorry RK veered into politics as well. Ok I signed, and gave them a phony phone number.

I called attention to Jim's non responses and inability to have a real dialog, in this case with Jonathan. Ron this is actually groundbreaking. The first I recall you guys asking for clarity in Jim's responses in an argument.. And then you Sandy, and I'm applauding you. Now take a deep breathe. This is what started Jim's chain of responses. This is Jonathan's first response to Jim's opening link here with no accompanying explanation. You may disagree with Jonathan, but his message is clear. Stay with me! Jonathan_ Sorry, but this yet another "such and such knew someone and they were college classmates with someone and they once went out to lunch with someone else and so that means Ruth and Michael are CIA spies." There are numerous other dubious conclusions here, including that Ruth would have been "informing on Oswald to the FBI" by giving them the "Kostin" letter, that there's something suspicious about Michael Paine attending meetings with Oswald by groups with opposing ideologies (there isn't), and, even worse, that the Paines had "very limited interactions" with Oswald (total nonsense - Ruth probably spent as much time around Oswald in 1963 as any other human being). To that Jim's response is. Jim:Jonathan: Can you show me any investigation into Ruth and Michael done by the HSCA? Can you show me where Ruth was even questioned by the HSCA? Can you show me any interview by the ARRB of Ruth Paine? Let me know when you find this stuff. Thanks! What kind of response is this? No response, just an attempt to cloud the conversation with a phony attempt to put Jonathan on the defensive with a bunch of questions, that as I said lead nowhere. . But then Jim's immediately follows up in the next post by saying this. Jim:Greg Parker is a very underrated and relatively unknown researcher from down under. Doudna went nutty when Parker unveiled this wonderful piece of research. He tried to attack it, Parker beat it back. Let me know Jonathan when you find those HSCA and ARRB inquiries. https://reopenkennedycase.forumotion.net/t1632-star-wars-trilogy-at-the-barbers Jim launches into Parker's story, as if this is any kind of follow up in discussion to Jonathan. And as it turns out neither Ron Sandy or I and I assume anyone else here knew the relevance of this story. That Hootkins was a commie? Maybe big news down under, but not here! Which finally causes Ron to asks Jim "what is this all about?." And then evading Jomathan's question, Jim ends with this. Jim- Let me know Jonathan when you find those HSCA and ARRB inquiries. Can we admit this line is just a lot unexplained obfuscatory phony baloney to his minions that he's actually winning an argument?! And then in IMO, unjustified good faith. Jonathan asks of Jim about this series of questions to him. Jonathan:Are you implying the absence of testimony from the Paines to post-Warren Commission official bodies is some indication of their complicity in the crime? Because it’s not … To that Jim answers. Jonathan, I am implying little or nothing. What I am saying is pretty simple. Did the HSCA investigate Ruth and Michael? No. Did the ARRB call them in for questioning? No. Then that leaves people like Greg Parker to investigate things like the Hootkins episode, since they did not. Recall, that incident was before the assassination. ?? A story none of us even understood. Do you guys understand any more now that Jim has supposed explained it in as few words as possible? So that was a satisfactory response for you guys?? Ok, if you think it was, what kind of response was this to Jonathan first inquiry? So Jonathan, who can keep a train of thought, realizes this was no response from Jim at all. So asks again. Jonathan: Again, so what? Many people connected to the assassination in one way or another were not "properly" investigated by the authorities. Does that mean they were conspirators? Or even had anything useful to say? Of course it doesn't. So, I don't know what point you are trying to make. To that, Jim goes off on how things got sidelined when Sprague left, which I've heard from Jim many times before but doesn't get near addressing Jonathan's initial question! And of course , again Jim's phony cherry on top command at the end to convince his followers he's actually putting Jonathan on the defensive!. Jim:Now with what happened to the HSCA, go ahead and show me her examination. What??? You guys hopefully aren't Maga. If you're going to be Jim's followers, you have to demand a higher bar of authenticity in his dialog. You have to ask these questions! No Sandy, the fact that Jim put me on ignore is the fact that I've asked him these questions that I'm asking right now of you! As I've illustrated, this dialog from Jim to Jonathan is just evasive garbage that lead nowhere! Get over your emotions! Amidst this, a positive thing happened, Tony's questions that have lead to a thread.

Some good deduction Richard! I thought I'd mention what I thought was most noteworthy of what Reiner said that I wouldn't expect others to mention. Jeff Morley does a good job of letting Reiner talk and Reiner willfully obliges. I like a lot of Reiner's politics but I do find him sometimes pompous and self righteous. True, He does rely on his own instincts and his own his group of conspiracy heroes and witnesses that he deems important. But that could be said of this forum as well. I share some of them, and not others. Ben:Or, Reiner may think the political need to frame a narrative supersedes the need for verifiable truth. That is, the political truth trumps historical truth. I knew Reiner's interest in Russiagate would incite jeers. We won't open that can of worms for now.. . But if there are people here, Maga or otherwise who still think that members of the CIA know who killed JFK and are desperately seeking to keep that information secret. I would think at least the Maga wing would allege that former CIA director John Brennan 2013-2017 would be one of "the gatekeepers" as Trump , when he took away his security clearance called him "the worst CIA director in history." I don't tend to be a big fan of any CIA Director. Reiner in his Russia gate investigation accounts having dinner with Brennan and at first doesn't want to bother him with his JFKA notions but Brennan then asks him" So what are you working on". Reiner then tells him, and asks if he ever heard about Richard Nagle, and Brennan asks him "what do you know about Richard Nagel?" When Reiner tells him, Brennan's wife asked if he has any problems with Reiner's pursuing the JFKA. Brennan says no, "it's a good idea to revisit history." Then a couple of weeks later Brennan connects Reiner with former Moscow bureau chief Rolfe Larsen, who also speculates CIA involvement. Apparently Brennan isn't worried about the JFKA secret getting out and a massive defunding of the CIA! Ok,I know, limited hang out now? So I hope we're not saying Brennan and Larsen positively deliberately mislead Reiner down the wrong path and any answer that doesn't point at Dulles and Angleton is a limited hang out. Larsen just may believe it was a rogue CIA operation. Charles and Ben don't have a problem with it and while part of me may feel a letdown because I cling to a "focus of evil"- Dulles/ Angleton Grand Slam nailing! I don't have a problem with it either. But like Ben, after so many people have spent so many years investigating it. The idea that Rob Reiner comes in and cracks the case is a bit hard to swallow!

Nonsense! Sandy, Believe me, if you were there and heard what was going on to Frazier, you'd be a fool to not watch your butt too. The answer is "yes". Almost everyone deserves the time of day. You're just playing into a low bar Jim has established. This is just the kind of hero worship thinking we've got to stop. Sandy, Jim has half the world on ignore including me for just asking direct questions he can't answer, and he actually brags about it, to get support. (And now you get rewarded with a Jim emoji!, heh heh) Which, in his position establishes a bad precedent for any serious research. There are crazy people who come here from time to time that are better off being ignored. I haven't personally seen that with Jonathan, though his attitude can seem terse. He simply disagrees with you. But I can't speak to all of Jonathan's responses. But are any of these current question Jim is ducking unfair? You're just responding negatively for being challenged. Ok, this is a small matter Sandy. You made this statement. Sandy:Well of course Ruth Paine was a CIA asset. Either she was or Linnie Mae Randle was. The use of the phrase "of course" is 180 degrees from later calling it "hypothetical." These things need to be straightened out. You're not allowed unlimited license to make an incriminating statement, and later call it hypothetical. You should expect to be called on that.

This was the jewel of RP's incrimination in Jim's post. To that Jonathan asks. This is what it's like to have a conversation with Jim. He didn't even answer his question. Jim employs what is called in debating a gish gallop. That is, he throws everything out there but the kitchen sink, alluding to having great knowledge, but only with a mind to divert, or stall the conversation in endless links going nowhere. Yes this is what Jim's got, just more innuendo. As far as RP's actions. Any prudent person might look into what the state has got on her. Let's take this group RP, Randall and Frazier. And take Frazier's account of the DP intimidation to make him confess to a crime he wasn't involved in. This group has reason to not trust the government, at any level. Is anybody ever concerned with government overreach here? Or does that only happen now?

Michael Bechloss-- Final words, prepared for a speech JFK did not survive to deliver, planned for an Austin Democratic dinner sixty years ago tonight (cancelled because of the assassination): JFK:So let's not be petty, when our cause is so great. Let us not quarrel among ourselves , when our nation's future is at stake. Dassright Mo Fao's! And now that you got official JFK permission. Don't you forget it! heh heh!

Jim did well to cover as many of the main points as time allowed. a 5 syllable last name such as Jim's was so daunting for Kilmeade, He started out by calling Jim "John" and then just ended up giving up midway through his last name!

Sandy has a hybrid sort of explanation for all of this and really is in neither camp, and is a little easier to talk to because he doesn't have angst of a Jim Di for example. As I recall according to Sandy's theory. RP was so completely snowed by her CIA handlers that to this day she believes she has nothing to hide but her affiliation with the CIA and that she has always felt she has done her best for her country. The CIA was so confident of their complete snowing of RP that there was no trace of apprehension about RP being available to so many media venues over 60 years and they had no problem using her again as an asset in Nicaragua in the 80's. Tell me if I'm misstating your case, Sandy. I did spend some time addressing the flaws in your argument in I believe the Max Good film thread maybe started by Greg Doudna, but I never heard back from you. Similar to the forum in general to my earlier long post. Some of those who hold RP in such contempt seem to have backed off from a position 10 years ago that she was actually involved directly in the assassination. What characterizes the heavily RP suspicious element is that they use innuendo and pick apart RP's responses, but always stop short of delving into what they're implicating because they know they have no certainty exactly what they're alleging. If they don't want to deal with the implausibility I delineated earlier of of Ruth being the master spy of the 20th and 21st century which their innuendos do imply. I'd simply ask them "What is Ruth Paine holding back that would be a 'smoking gun' or even a break in the case of the JFKA? What specifically are you alleging? But let's be clear. It was Talbot's "Devil's chessboard" that delineated the connections between Dulles , Anne Bancroft and the Paine family, and Talbot doesn't believe the Paine's were involved. . And for whatever reason, if Jim Di lobbied Stone for the a greater Paine inclusion in the film "JFK revisited", Stone refused. Sandy :Either she was or Linnie Mae Randle was. Yes, after all, people lose track she was the source of the employment information, right? There was sort of an unlikely set of bedfellows of Ron and I believe it was Cotter who seemed determined to prove Linnie Mae Randall was a CIA asset. You'll have to ask them how if that ever got off the ground.

Sandy,What would you have done after 10/7 had you been prime minister of Israel? As I said here at the time. I'd fully expect the stronger nation to exact it's pound of flesh several times over. That's a political reality, just as there was no doubt Al Gore would also have invaded Afghanistan after 911 because he would never get re elected if he didn't. But I think it's safe to say, Gore would never have then invaded Iraq. But this is a senseless slaughter now. The real nucleus of Hamas and their finances aren't held in Gaza anyway.The hope of eliminating Hamas while destroying Palestinian families and rendering 100's of 1000s homeless is a pipe dream. Have you noticed how active the ADL is with their commercials on American TV now? That's their right. But you won't hear near as many ads making the case for the Palestinian cause because they aren't near as well financed. If I were PM, I'd cease fire, end the destruction, negotiate for hostages, and work with the Palestinian authority on the West Bank on a 2 state solution which would involve eliminating the Hamas influence. The last election they had was back in 2006 and despite what people say Hamas did not win, they got a narrow plurality. And they are held in much less esteem by the Palestinians now. The current Netanyahu regime would fight it tooth and nail. They have to be elected out, and that's also very doable. I'm not sure what your point is. Did you watch any of this? This is of a civilian response to the beginning of Putin's civilian bombing of the Eastern city of Mariupol.. The capital of Ukraine, Kiev is in the West and they, the government chose to fight. If you remember practically no one thought Putin was going to go through with it. Including self appointed forum Kremlin expert Jeff Carter. They may have sensed it was coming, but that doesn't lessen their anguish when it becomes a reality. And they did end up fighting for 86 days.

The only problem Sandy is now you're creating 2 future members of Hamas or the equivalent for every on Hamas you destroy. I streamed this documentary from a PBS Frontline last night about the beginnings of the demise in Mariupol when the Russians started bombing and then the occupation, and the newfound horror of the citizens. I grant not pleasant. Maybe you have to be in a 'tell like it is" mood. But it made an impression on me.

Well first off, Mart I love your tennis shoe epaulets! Very clever! What I meant by the "average viewer" are people who are agnostic to the JFKA. I think anybody with enough exposure to be on this forum would be likely to not believe RP. Body language experts aside. I don't think she was always truthful. As I recall,with the WC for an example she seemed to fumble when asked about her neglect at not telling LHO about the higher paying job at the airport, though there's no proof or reason to assume Ruth was privy to salary information. I would explain that she may have just been tired of dutifully taking down Lee's job offers for the last month and been relieved that LHO finally got a job and the whole process was over, and then got uncomfortable when her neglect was made into a cause for suspicion. I think she doesn't really owe Lee anything.

What would not have happened? This article? Which is only a rehash of previous things we've already uncovered and said about Ruth Pain?. There's nothing new here. Do like some others are doing here. Reveal new facts, don't just post something to reinforce and validate current forum dogma, or ask a series of questions that lead nowhere. . But since you brought up Max's film. Of course in the film, Max was a spy of sorts. After embedding himself under RP's auspices, and seeing her and Michael Paine's life in their retirement home. (which I know from experience is rather sobering, and would be all the more so for a younger person.) Max didn't air any of his suspicions of RP until the final interview, when it's obvious Max doesn't have neither the goods to deliver any kind of knock out punch, or the heart which is actually to his credit. Though both sides will assail him. The RP-is-guilty faction will say he didn't go for the jugular, when in reality, he didn't have the evidence. And the RP-is-innocent crowd will assail Max for making the film at all. But it was entertaining for me. I think everybody here is interested in seeing more current film and getting whatever new info they can about Ruth Paine. So the purpose of the movie at least became to inform about the suspicions surrounding RP and to leave viewers with their own conclusion.. But there is quite an irony in that Max became no less than an undercover spy apprentice to, let's face it, according to Ruth''s detractors, the greatest spy of the 20th and 21st century! She extended this deception for over 60 years! The literal Evil Knievel of spies! There are certain practices that come with a thing called "spy craft". Under the normal practice,, Ruth having been an accomplice (witting or unwitting) to the the killing of the POTUS, would have spent the rest of her life in seclusion, away from the public eye! She was told to do so by her CIA handlers, who most likely threatened her life! After all, these are the same people who killed a President, killed LHO and numerous others shortly after the assassination and then years later, when they became more sophisticated, took down a sitting President from office ( Nixon) for knowing too much. Right, Jim? So according to Ruth's detractors, when asked to retire, Ruth would have none of it, and told her handlers to got to hell! Because she was going to take on all comers who question the findings in the WR, and then a decade later, anxious to return to the limelight insisted on continuing her spy activities in Nicaragua!, because she saw herself as indispensable to the agency, and no one was going to tell her differently! And she's been taking on all comers ever since, open to every interview or tv shows for the next 60 years after the assassination and shuts down every tough interviewer including more recently young whippersnapper Max Good, over 50 years younger than her! Such an infamously stellar career has to be begrudgingly acknowledged by RP's detractors, if they actually believe it! heh heh

What's with the western press here? We have CNN still raising issues about Israel's claim that Hamas is using "human shields"with tunnels beneath the Al Shifa hospital, but here's what they've neglected to mention. We now have this Christiane Amanpour interview where former PM Barak tells Amanpour that Israel constructed the underground tunnel under the hospital back in 1983!

Israel is big box office human misery! Poor old Ukraine, too bad people can't see the atrocities, the utter destruction, the displacement and the general horror and human pain and suffering Ukraine has had to go through and still is.. They're estimating 11,000 orphans in Gaza. Ukraine estimates there as many as 300,000 orphans in Ukraine, many shipped off to Russia. But that estimate has about as much credibility as RK's estimate of 300,000 Ukrainians dead. Still you know the total has to be many times more than in Gaza!. They've been fighting almost 2 years! This is the world we live in, and this is war. I think images of war shown throughout the world is probably a good thing and will invoke for most people a common sense of humanity. Life isn't fair and war is hell. Sounds like we're now winding this down in Ukraine. U.S. Mission to NATO Ukraine has taken back more than half of its territory seized by Russia’s forces since February 2022. In this tough and dynamic battle, Ukraine’s soldiers are fighting bravely every single day, and they continue to inspire the world with their bravery and courage. We will continue to support them to be in the strongest possible position at the negotiating table when the time comes. We continue to stand #UnitedWithUkraine while they defend their freedom.

Yes, Same old rehashed stuff. Di Eugenio has tried to enshrine Ruth Paine into the forum hall of Conspiracy Supervillains for 10 years. At one point over 5 years ago, you couldn't have a real discussion about RP's innocence without being shouted down. Max's film leaves the average viewer sympathizing more with 91 year old Ruth Paine.

Ok, just one more thing about collateral damage it is !. As I've said, I'm more interested in what to do, that is "policy'. I want a cease fire, but the political reality for this moment is that even Bernie Sanders won't go on board for that! I think with more time and anguish. That will change I agree. These are trying times.W.! But I beseech you, keep faith and don't do as this woman, and fall into the dark side! https://twitter.com/i/status/1726326879630639510

Yeah that makes a lot of sense! Only the Office of the Presidency is exempt from guilt for leading an insurrection! Other countries have to think we're crazy. to design a legal loophole so only the most powerful people can also be the most destructive!

I don't think it's panacea you might think it is Joe. I was hoping facial recognition would spare me the endless chore of looking up my passwords for what is now 100 sites. But it''s just used as another layer of identification now, and I'm starting to flunk half the time though my appearance hasn't changed! I've also bought speech recognition software twice over the years and I've discarded those as well.But maybe it's better now. If anybody using SRS with good results, please recommend.

I have an interesting story about the Filoli Estate where Biden met Xi. It is probably one of the hugest estates in the one of the most expensive zip codes in the U.S. There is not another house within a mile of it! When I was in my 20's I use to trespass on government property a lot, mostly to see beautiful areas. I once trespassed on the Filoli Estate that I accessed through a prohibited watershed area (Crystal Springs Reservoir) that nonetheless had equestrian trails for the wealthy Woodside people. I was expecting to hide from a staff of people but I never saw anybody and walked through the gardens! Though it's not as incredible and opulent as the Hearst Mansion in San Simeon. It's pretty remarkable and I've been on a number of tourist tours of rich estates in several countries. It was used in Warren Beatty's movie "Heaven Can Wait" in the 70's. As a number of such places, I think it was given by its heirs to the State of California because the estate taxes had become too high. If there is a rural estate rich town associated with Silicon Valley wealth, it is Woodside. https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/photos-a-look-inside-filoli-the-site-for-xi-biden-meeting/3371473/

Congratulations Michael! I didn't know you were writing a book!

As Steve has touched upon. Have you heard some of Trump's fascist retribution plans if becomes President again? They are running it by Steve Bannon here and he's completely in favor! He's even turning orange! Let's expose this sh-t and cut it off at the pass! Ex Republican strategist Tim Miller confronting Kari Lake. Yes you're fos!