Kirk Gallaway

First off Dennis, i understand the need to strike out! I can only imagine the profound sense of heartbreak and displacement among the anti vaxxer community now that Trump has declared himself a vaxxer! What's with these old people anyway? right Dennis? Well there's always Alex Jones for President in 24. ****** Hmmm...Aren't those the people waging the "War on Christmas" Dennis? That's not real comedy, too Foxy, no subtlety, too politically contrived and plaintive. Isn't it suicide for the right to try to compete with the left about anything creative including humor. It's certainly been demonstrated many times on this forum! From someone whose studied the subject a little more. In contrast, this is my pick for the #1 most funny joke from the right in 2021. Then to contrast, of the 2021 memes from the left, there's a question if this even makes the Comedy top 100! Only the same message from the same people who've been telling you this all your life before GW, but unfortunately Dad never bought into it? Dennis, After years, It must be a relief to finally out yourself as a cultural warrior. Congrats! Well worth the wait! heh heh!

Yes Larry , I tend to think that. But re Mongoose: It is interesting in that I do believe Waldron says he initially believed that Operation Mongoose was found out and discarded by JFK in June 62, like most researchers here. But his eventual contacts with Nolan ,Williams and Rusk(though with him that's not clear) dissuaded him from that notion. Obviously since the same sources are used, we are led to conclude that either Williams and Nolan collaborated on a deception or Waldron isn't being truthful. Waldron says the reason for Nolan eventually spilling the beans was probably that he found out in the Assassination hearings that he was potential collateral damage in a Castro assassination plot that was to be carried out when Nolan and Castro were skin diving together. Yet more fantastic stuff!

Thanks for all your efforts Larry, It seems like the Kennedy family has always been a thorn in the side of the JFKA research community. This has always perplexed me. Incidentally, Anna Eshoo is my congresswoman. Hey I'm not trying to be a heretic. If anybody's bored here, with no smoking gun, or a need to strike out in a different direction. While I was driving I heard this radio interview with Lamar Waldron, a JFKA researcher who many of us are familiar with and I know Jim Di doesn't like because he in the camp that says RFK was part of the coverup as he asserts it was a Mafia hit and that ultimately RFK felt responsible for his brother's death.. The first thing all of us think of is how could there be such a massive government coverup if the Mafia killed JFK? Waldron's answer is that CIA feared Mafia would expose their ties to them, RFK and Operation Mongoose and that that was plenty. To summarize, He cites RFK aide Robert Nolan, whose also in Manchester's book, as telling him that Bobby was part of the coverup and to those not familiar, there was to be an invasion of Cuba on Dec 1st, 1963 with the full knowledge of the Kennedys, Cyrus Vance, and Alexander Haig. The third in command, and founder and head of Castro's Cuban army. Juan Almeida (sp?) had approached the U.S. about overthrowing Castro. The plan was thwarted by JFK'S death and much later Waldron said he got an admission of the plot to overthrow Castro by no less than Dean Rusk. There's a lot here about hard core anti Castro Bay of Pigs hero, Harry Williams (starts at 30.00) befriended by Bobby in the negotiation for release of BOP prisoners, who told Bobby Hoffa wanted to kill him, and later who was initially approached by Almeida,, and the threatening of his life by a Mafia representative who wants the continued Mafia presence in Cuba after the overthrow of Castro in no less than Bobby's apartment! Obviously it sounds way too fantastic, and Waldron's having a lot of fun telling it! This whole thing is 2 hours long, but you can get a pretty good summary in the last 25 minutes or so. This is from Thom Hartmann's nationally syndicated radio show,who I'm sure many are familiar with. Hartmann was Waldron's main assistant and co author in his numerous previous works on the JFKA.

Wow, David, I've never seen that before. Sort of the inside scuttlebutt.

Demand outstripping supply. Too much money chasing too few goods and services = rising prices =inflation. When the supply side problems abate. Things should start normalizing. I would think inflation would be peaking now or in the next quarter. . I'm sure this could be used by the foreign perpetual conspiracy crowd to say the U.S. caused the covid pandemic!, and I'm not in any way saying that there's still not a lot of hurt out there. But https://twitter.com/MacroAlf/status/1472668452691267584/photo/1

Good to hear different points of view. Here's Beau of the Fifth column, I assume a Southerner by his accent. An ex military contractor and supposedly an anarchist, which isn't readily apparent. In this first clip he talks of Trump's accomplishments. This sounds pretty similar to what Ben's has said as Trump's accomplishments. But I got to give it to Beau, a bit more comprehensive. Ben talks about the fallout, of alleged Q anon founder , Micheal Flynn's renouncing Q anon.

You're not offending me, W. quite the opposite! Just keep in mind "you’re going to lose almost everything you have ever worked for in your life", and "feel like a "real chump" that you didn't helplessly alarm everybody about their utterly hopeless situation right now! And by the way, Merry Xmas!!! and the best of Holiday Wishes!! ho ho ho!

Chris to W. Whew! Boy this omicron hysteria is getting rather moronic, how fitting an anagram! Ben and Chris, Well, I do remember both you guys coming here looking for followers and when nobody was spellbound and knocked over with a feather at your every utterance, then both you got vindictive on us. Just like the arrogant tripe (above) that you always come back to Chris, that we've been conditioned in the U.S. to believe everything our authorities tell us, and we just couldn't see. Awww! Chris and Ben just can't understand why we just don't adopt all their conspiracy theories! Chris and Ben have since become the forum's "new conspiracy woke". Hoping they can make all their theories PC here, Chris attempts it through voluminous posts as the entire previous page suggests, and editorializing on his own all weather/ all conspiracy thread blog where he can postulate for pages on end, that he tries to revive every other week or so. Ben isn't as hostile, (how could he be?) but has a repetitive, grinding, monotonous, writing style, and uses sort of a Trump/ Mao quotation method of saying the same dozen or so things using the same dozen or so people, institutions or buzzwords about... 150 times apiece through,...let's see 960 posts, (hmmm 2 per post maybe) hoping that if he repeats the same thing enough times, people will just give up and accept it. Where have I seen that before? I won't pretend to speak for everybody here, but I was hoping we'd be cancelled here, but it soon became evident, that they 1) had no place else to go and 2) they were not leaving. So in keeping with free speech and Holiday Spirit to the homeless. Obviously putting out lots of small fires can be rather time consuming. But I'm not alone. And I make the best of a limited situation, and try to call out unsubstantiated BS, and have a good time at it. Merry Xmas! ho ho ho, heh heh heh

That's funny Andrew. RFK's wife says no unvaxxed people in the house! Enough is enough! I didn't know Cheryl Hines and RFK Jr. were married! Larry David introduced Cheryl Hines to RFK Jr in 2012, and they've been married since 2014! ****** On a more serious note,to no one's surprise Texas Oil Pig: Rick Perry ----Fascist! Rick Perry likely authored a text outlining a strategy to undermine election results, CNN reported. https://www.businessinsider.com/rick-perry-likely-texted-mark-meadows-plan-to-sabotage-election-cnn-2021-12

Of course, It's like George Bush Sr. whose planning his first run for Congress the next year and actually has a hand in the JFKA, and decides he's going to Dallas afterward and shoot the sh-t about it with a bunch of yahoos on the street? The more powerful and sinister you make Bush, the less likely that is to be.

Hmm... you know these are both Mc Cord, right Ron? i didn't want to take the effort of cropping Ron's hall man. to put alongside it.

IMO, Not quite the same vibe Ron. Mc Cord eyes more incisive, fierce, not as passive. Mc Cord looks more like some cop. Both men are very dimply, hall man has more dimples on his right. Difficult finding earlier Mc Cord pictures. His only pictures with glasses are when testifying.

Hey Jeff, I think you know the most of anybody here about Assange. I have a personal question about Assange you might be able to help me with. Is Julian's favorite rock classic "Born to Run"? Of course I mean the "indoor" version. heh heh heh heh But I think you and I are in agreement Jeff, unlike Glenn and Benn* , I feel no conflict of interest in calling Pompeo a "pig" for his kidnapping plan! *A little joke there. But doesn't it figure that someone as verbosely redundant as Greenwald would spell "Glen" with 2 "n"s? Kudos to Ben! Though similar, he doesn't have to stoop so low! ****** As I was saying earlier, last Saturday night I was watching an NBA game that was finished and from 8PM to 9:30, there was this documentary film with Josiah Thompson that was the most pro JFK conspiracy thing I've seen on any of the major U.S. networks. It's not a big deal by our standards. It doesn't get into the who killed JFK but just makes a case for conspiracy, which could be just enough of a bite size chunk for a lot of people. Anyway then I found it on Youtube.

Yes John, I'm not worried, but of course I'm vaccinated. If you're not vaccinated and unworried, it's not really about whether you're worried or not, you could pass it on to similar unworried people. But we are beyond the extreme lock down phase. I think the evidence is this is more contagious but ultimately weaker. But for example, Things could get weird for the rest of the Football season with the current NFL rules. **** Ben: If you start off the COVID-19 story by lying to the public about the origins of the virus...who believes what you have to say next? Made in Wuhan lab...with funding from the US? Now, that is a story that must be suppressed. The media people who would suppress such a story...would you believe any thing else they have to say? It would be, but you haven't proven that at all Ben, just as you haven't proven that the FBI provoked the 1/6 break in to the Capitol, and are looking sillier by the minute for it.IMO ..I think all of us here were aware of that possibility before you could come and enlighten us, and I don't recall hearing anybody here doubting that that could be possible. Worth investigating, But once it's here, so what? What does that have to do with the ongoing struggle of battling a pandemic? The people who propagated that the disease was some "plandemic"used as a means to gain control of other groups were the most full of sh-t of all and have done the greatest disservice to those who are earnestly fighting the disease. Vaccines work! It's true we don't know the long range effects of some of these rna vaccines. It's true the manufacturers are released from liability. At some point there was a conscious choice made that the 1)public wasn't going to be able to put up with too many restrictions for too long, and 2) the economic damage would be overwhelming so a decision was made to go with our biopharma lobby. That's the way it's done in our style capitalism, big money wins out and the corporate states tentacles are thoroughly ensconsed in government. If a person doesn't want to take the chance of being vaccinated because he will have no legal recourse should he get sick, then any conscientious person must distance himself from outside people, obey all the protocols and their life will be restricted,they will not walk into public places without a mask and in many cases not be able to leave the country. Always lies, lies, right? It's true, there might be other lies, but the only action I can say is an outright lie was telling people at the beginning they didn't have to wear a mask, when the real reason was that there was a mask shortage that was needed for the responders. Then there's the public confusion because of patchwork quilt decisions made by consensus in different regions. Execution mistakes, they botched testing early on, etc. Whatever double messages the medical establishment put out it was complicated many more times over by a chief executive who was working at odds with them. But after that it's simply that they don't know, and they're making errors in trying to find out. Unfortunately when people finally concede to follow authority, they want to think that authority is infallible and act betrayed when part of the process is just trial and error, and sometimes previous policies were wrong. People didn't know at first that transmissibility is lessened out doors. People didn't know at first it was an airborne disease and everybody was using bleach everywhere and I know I was paranoid touching doorknobs. You can strike out about the profit motive in a capitalist economy, but outside of that , it's not anything that "ominous deep state". It was a non rehearsed emergency response to a pandemic.IMO

Yeah , that looks like the line up of Ben's All Stars that he's hoping to transform the Republican Party with!

Exactly W.! while super sleuth Ben's most mentioned, 1/06 riots figure of of 2021,was Buffalo horns. For us, we're transitioning from "scrum" to scrumptious. But expect Ben to keep pulling out his buffalo horns. To his tribe, It would be too humiliating to change course now. Re: Assange You know I looked and come this spring, it will have been 10 years since Assange first started hiding in the Ecuadorian embassy. It would be interesting if there were any good journalists who weren't sycophants who could ask the question I would. "Did you really envision when you first took refuge, that you'd be confined for 10 years, and "Did you ever think of getting defiant and trying to throw the state's case in their face against them?" I assume he first had visions of being a "privileged white Mandela" martyr figure strolling around the embassy courtyard which could have some unique appeal to his followers. But then he ends up carrying water for what could have been the biggest First Amendment despot in our country's history. Nice Move! I don't think Bob or Jeff really knows the case against Assange, but Bob knows he doesn't know. To Jeff it doesn't matter because there just couldn't be anything worth protecting. Just like Ben, who finds himself strange bedfellows with Dick Cheney, Richard Armitage and Scooter Libby. Try looking up Valerie Plame.

Well That's fascinating Ben, as usual. What new diatribes can you entertain us with? Oh yeah, produce one article from somebody and say the entire MSM is going after Joe Rogan. What a twitter world we live in now. Ben:After the elderly were voluntarily vaccinated I thought the fight was done. Yes apparently you were wrong. Ben:I do not understand the forced vaccination of children, who face extremely small risks from C19, nor the endless travel bans, vaccination police, lockdowns, etc. So is this angst about more lockdowns in the U.K. Ben.? You know I've checked out ex pat boards and one thing that seems more overwhelming in the last year is the number of dismayed people, largely from some well off backgrounds, often in Europe, who aren't content where they are who despite all the turmoil they hear about in the U.S. think their life will somehow transform if they could only get to the U.S.! So we're kind of in a place where we can be picky and choosy. Personally if it was up to me, I wouldn't have any unvaccinated people entering the U.S. Why do we need to take any chances? And Ben, being old, I'm afraid you'd need a booster. And I can feel how you're sick and tired you are of that "jab" thing. But I do sympathize with people who want a new life. You could take your chances going over our southern border you're always so concerned about. But I warn you, you'd have to compete with a much younger more able bodied population to get through down there. And maybe just as well, because we don't really need any more retirees. Still, you're welcome to try! Kind of like the Squid Games heh heh

Bob: Assange could have just soldiered up and done what most journalists do and said "See ya in court!" Exactly, Something Assange's supporters never think of. What did Obama do with Assange's most publicized source. Chelsea Manning? He pardoned him! I can't speak to the case against Assange. But the guys been running in fear for years now. Remember he finally overextended his welcome at the Ecuador embassy? It seems like all of his supporters are projecting the grimmest scenario in jail. People do respect people who fight. For all, we know, If he just fought it directly, he may have not have even served time and I'd say he would have been a free man easily by now.

If Assange said this. He's telling Trump not to concede if he loses a legitimate election, which he did. Trump lost and it wasn't close. Democracies depend on candidates admitting when they lost. Jake challenges Matt's opinion, Matt answers appropriately to his conviction. Jake retreats and piggybacks on Ben, and acts if expressing his outrage is some argument within itself. Victory Matt!

Completed- Josiah Thompson gig-- triangulation, JFK 2 headshots , one from TSBD, one from Grassy Knoll. It is the most most pro JFK conspiracy show I've seen on any of the major U.S. networks since Sylvia Chase and also the Crenshaw interview, both on ABC, almost 30 years ago.

"JFK unsolved" Warren report is a coverup,Now we have Vince Salandria meeting Josiah Thompson. We're behind the Grassy Knoll now, Holland Bowers. If anybody is on the West Coast, turn on ABC.

Ron, I'm not completely sure what to make of it, because his son does work for a congressman. So where was his son and why has Carlson kept it a secret for so long? It should be public knowledge. You would have thought if Carlson didn't reveal it, someone would have asked him by now. But he does get by not answering a lot of things, once when asked if he was covid vaccinated he absurdly responded by asking the questioner "who are all the people you've had sex with?", as if there's any comparison in questions. This is weird, i just got finished watching a basketball game, and on ABC,they're playing a 90 minute long, 2021 documentary called "JFK unsolved". It does show Hoover's call to LBJ, and a clip of Josiah Thompson and I see it's not just a revamp of a dozen or so pro WR film documentaries I've seen before. I got to see where this goes.

Ben:Assange has an encyclopedia of legitimate reasons to loathe, detest and revile the Donks and 'Phants in the US. And Ben doesn't go into it. Does that answer anything or absolve anybody? It's only fueling a case for Assange's extreme bias! What W. was talking about is what I had also heard. Assange approached Donald Trump Jr. for Wiki leaks to ask for a year of Donald Trump's tax returns to dampen the perception that wiki leaks was acting as a tool for Donald Trump. If Jeff has is that Assange internet connectivity was cut off during that period as well, that strikes me as very weak as I'm sure Assange is adept at communicating through any number of non traceable channels as well. Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson is a gift that keeps giving . We now find out that Tuckers son Buckley (another aristocratic twist,father like son, a son with a surname for a first name!) was inside the Capitol on !/6! Hence there is an untold connection in Tucker Carlson's 3 part series, Patriot Purge (which Ben was recommending for us all to see)using his position to propagandize reasons for his son's presence which he has been quiet about for 11 months! Will this in any way, effect the Fox Nation or Ben's perception of Carlson? Probably not! https://www.salon.com/2021/12/11/tucker-carlson-says-son-was-in-us-capitol-building-on-jan-6/ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/tucker-carlson-son-capitol-building-riot-b1973389.html

Bill: I'm a old Zappa fan, been to a few concerts, , but I couldn't find that quote directly anywhere, though it does sound like his writing style..But here are other ones I did find. We often are explaining to Ben the dangers of "false equivalency", but a warning must go out to all those who would use our literary heroes, (just because they have none of their own ) to further their own evil ends! "1993- There's an incredible rise in racist and fascist attitudes here, most of them being helped along by the Republican Party "With a big old lie, and a flag and a pie, and a bomb and bible, most folks are just liable to buy any lie, anyplace, anytime."<br><br>When the lie gets so big, and the pockets so deep, and the facts get forgotten, the Republican trick can be played out again. People please tell me when, we'll be rid of these men." Frank Zappa, circa, 1988<b **** This one starts basically the same as yours, Bill. Republicans stand for raw, unbridled evil and greed and ignorance smothered in balloons and ribbons.” ****** You may have meant this, there is that comparison but wanting to sound as Republican as possible. "I've come to the conclusion that there's only one party in this country and it's divided into two parts: Republicans and Republican wannabes. Republicans stand for evil, corruption, manipulation, greed- everything that Americans think is okay after being conditioned to it during the eighties. Republicans stand for all the values that Americans now hold dear. Plus they have more balloons than God, and for a nation raised on cartoons, that tells you something. Anybody with balloons, they're okay. They don't tell you what kind of crippled people had to blow those suckers up. The Democrats have no agenda, and when they speak on any topic, they want to sound as Republican as possible while still finding a way to retain the pork. ***** Republican is fine, if your a millionaire. Democrats is fair, if all you own is what you wear. Neither of them’s really right, cause neither of them care. ***** We pretend to be a free society, and we pretend to be an adult society, but if you look at the facts, our news is just as contrived and controlled as Pravda. Politics is a branch of the entertainment industry

I agree completely Greg. Forgive me if I segue, but I think Ben wants to see Tucker Carlson as the dashing 21st century JFK. The continual harping on Fox News about either the tyranny of the government "deep state" or the ineffectiveness of the government (figure that one out!) is really the most stark corporate state messaging among the major networks, though masked in a phony populism. The goal is to influence public opinion,toward a long range goal of stripping down the size of government to a time period before we were born and 2)privatize whatever functions of the government that are left. Now he gets sucked in by Marco Rubio? watch Tucker get punked and come undone in this segment with Rutger Bregman The Republican strategy is so obvious it's hard to believe it's worked for so long. "Government doesn't work so. Vote for me!" Then problems inevitably happen and their response is "see told you government doesn't work. Vote for me!" They have a built in excuse for every failure they have. They've literally campaigned for 50 years on the idea that if they get elected they will do nothing and a lot of voters are okay with it because they are convinced government is the problem. When it's so obvious they are the reason government is the problem, because they literally campaign on making government worse. Then a problem happens, a government responds poorly and their voters sit there with a suprised Pikachu face and go, must be the Democrats! Ok, Some guy I read on twitter