Joe Bauer

I recall one of the "Anti-Christ" predictions is that he would start a war in the Middle East. If Trump actually initiates one in the few days he has left in office ... well... it's something to ponder.

No. And pictures can be evidence. I too feel I could identify someone "I've known for years in close up ways" even from a backside view photo. Especially if it's a "full body" shot and as close as 20, 30 or no more than 40 feet away from the photographer. And a clear shot in full sunlight to boot, like the one in question. The type of clothes they are wearing, the way they fit, the shoes, shirt collar and hand shirt sleeve if showing, the head and neck size and shape, the hair cut, the ears, the stoop, the over-all build, the arm length and swing, leg bend, the hands and perhaps a certain size and type ring on a certain finger.

Just hope Trump doesn't get us into a Middle East conflict before January 20th, 2021 so he can declare war powers acts to stay in office.

Yes, very well put. Cut through my rambling post to a coherent message. Yes, we living survivors who witnessed the JFK event coverage as it happened are riding into the sunset now. Our children and grandchildren will eventually be placing our JFK assassination books out at garage sales for 50 cents each. Reminds me of seeing You Tube video interviews of toothless 100 year old Civil War veterans sitting in their front porch rocking chairs with hand held horn hearing aids and sharing random bits of their civil war memories with what ever passerbys will take the time to listen.

You're actually inferring that the Krulak letter to Prouty ( and Krulak's stated affirmation that the suited walk-by man in the 3 tramp photo is Lansdale ) is a complete fabrication on Prouty's part? If it is then I need to do a big time re-evaluation of my own gullibility. Has there ever been one iota of evidence that Prouty did any other forging or creating of false documents in his entire life? I have done a layman's search of Lansdale photographs myself and there are many out there. From my untrained but commmon sense eye I do see a lot of similar body measurements, comparisons including head shape and haircut and postures between the real life Lansdale and the tall, suited man in the Dealey Plaza 3 tramp walk-by photo. Would Lansdale take the risk of being on-site during the JFK event? He was known for being a real "hands on" observer of covert actions he planned and created. A control type person. There is another photo of an intriguing high level covert background person on-site in Dealey Plaza on 11,22,1963 that has been speculated to be "Rip Robertson." This other photo is a full-on front facing facial one. To me, compared to other full face photo's of Robertson, it is clearly him. But the Robertson photo story has just not gotten any follow up research interest and probably never will. So, it's just idle JFK side conversation material to banter around once every few years to like-minded folks like me.

Rob, how do you reconcile the stark contradiction quote of Krulak in his response letter to Prouty concerning the 3 tramp walk-by photo: "As to photo number 1..."That is indeed Lansdale...the haircut,the stoop, the twisted left hand, the large class ring. It's Lansdale." With your interview quote of him referring to Prouty's theory of Lansdale being the man in the photo as ... "Kooky?" You see the Krulak quote in his letter back to Prouty correct? What are we missing here? Why should we believe your take on Krulak's take on Prouty and his Lansdale in Dealey Plaza theory as kooky more than the Krulak Lansdale affirmation quote in the letter Krulak sent back to Prouty? The credibility question is valid and logical if the Krulak letter to Prouty is real imo.

Trump's Thanksgiving day election fraud tirade and verbally abusive belittling beration of yet another WH press corps member while sitting at an elementary schoolroom sized desk was the perfect backdrop setting for the small childlike mindset and antics of a man who has to insecurely remind everyone..."I am the President of the United States!" If anyone ever had their boss, teacher, pastor, doctor, parent or anyone else of authority (outside a boot camp drill instructor) talk to them the way Trump has been addressing members of the White House press corp and other interviewing press people his entire four years in office, they could and should rightfully sue them for extreme verbal abuse harrassment and perhaps even slander when it's done in front of an audience of millions. Seriously, if these authority figures I listed constantly called you "loser", "lightweight", "disgusting", "shameful", " a disgrace", "fake", "failed", "little", "stupid", "small", "you should be ashamed of yourself", " embarrassment", "you're really something", "low ratings", " your finished", "psycho-Joe Scarborough" " Fredo-Chris Cuomo" and on and on and on consistently for years and right to your face in front of millions of others... At what point would you finally realize that you were being wrongfully, unfairly and even slanderously verbally abused to any societal accepted standard? And at what point would you feel you couldn't go to work, or school, or church or a doctor's office because of this demeaning one-way abuse? If a spouse constantly spoke to their partner using these derogatory terms it would be considered verbal abuse in any divorce court. Donald Trump has been verbally abusing the WH press corps this egregiously ever since he took office 4 years ago as well as any other member of the media who dared criticized him and even in televised one-on-one interviews with them. I have mentioned before my amazement at the corporate broadcast media employers of all these Trump abused press people who have allowed them to be abused by Trump like this hundreds of times the last 4 years, without so much as an editorial peep and/or formal request for it to stop. One of Trump's most glaring legacies will certainly be his obsessive, outrageously bold, cold and insulting verbal abuse of so many members of the press his entire term, and right to their faces in front of millions of viewers! This extreme dark behavior trait of Trump the abuser is perversly unique ( can anyone remember any previous President treating the press this way?) and a sickening reality no one can honestly deny or downplay. The lack of speaking out defense and protection from this Trump abuse by the employers of these constantly belittled press people is another abuse ( enabling by silence) in this way also imo. Seeing others constantly belittled, abused and made fun of is a gut wrenching and even sickening experience. What a relief it will be to finally see it's end after January 20th, 2021.

Too interesting not to share. Those two German Shepherds of the Biden's remind me of one of my most unusual dog sitting jobs while working at Doris Day's doggie hotel the "Cypress Inn " in Carmel, CA years ago. After my regular hotel position hours, I would pet sit hotel guest's dogs while they went out to dinner or some other activity such as time-without-Fido walking through this high end resort community full of art galleries and expensive restaurants and shops. One day another high end Carmel hotel ( L'AUBERGE ) called ours and asked if I personally could take on an unusual pet sitting job for one of their guests. I walked the block away and into the hotel courtyard. There were just two people sitting at a table with their two dogs at their feet. One was a pure bred German Shepherd. The other was a black wolf hybrid of some sort. Batavia? Huge frame. These two were "private security" dogs. Their owner claimed he had a lot of people who wished him harm so his two canine guards were with him 24/7. I watched both dogs. Before I did so I was asked by the dogs owner how much I thought he paid for his two "security" dogs. I looked at the regular German Shepherd ( Julia ) and guessed $1,000. The Wolf I couldn't assess as far as cost. Soon enough their owner told me he paid $230,000 for Julia and another $70,000 for the Wolf dog ( name forgotten.) He told me if I didn't believe him to go onto the New York Times website and type in "most money ever paid" for guard dog. That night after my sitting job I did just that. His story was true! The man's name was "xxxxxxx" and he did indeed pay that much for Julia. He told me that Julia was the highest rated dog in some special-ops military connected dog training program ever. I walked Julia right after I met her. Sweet girl. Calm. Easy to be with. When I brought Julia back to her owner after she had done her duty I remarked what a sweet girl she was. He agreed but then told me that on one German command word, Julia would go for my throat and would only stop if I killed her. I would never walk the black wolf. He would follow my every move with his eyes without moving his head! That dog scared me. I was paid $140 for each two and 1/2 hours of sitting for two straight dinner time days. Plus a $100 gift certificate to one of the restaurants they went to - Grasings. I hope the Biden's two Shepherds are as sweet as Julia. For the Executive With Everything, a $230000 Dog to Protect It www.nytimes.com › 2011/06/12 › 12dogs Jun 12, 2011 — Julia, a protection dog, working with a trainer at home in Lakeville, ... Moguls and celebrities now routinely pay $40,000 to $60,000 for a ... She looks at you, she's got the most beautiful face.” ... “It's a lot of money,” he said matter-of-factly. ... “I've probably trained a thousand dogs, and she's the best I've ever ... The most expensive dog Harrison K-9 ever sold was a dog named Julia for $230,000 to a businessman in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Julia was so smart that the head trainer told The New York Times she was almost like a person. “If my daughter Kailee was outside in the woods, I’d say, ‘Julia, where’s Kailee?’, and she’d go out and find her,” she told The Times.

Thank you KG for posting this Prouty video. I have viewed it a dozen times myself over the years. Unless the letter sent to Prouty by General Victor Krulak in response to the 3 tramp/ walk-by man photo in front of the Texas School Book Depository is a forgery by Prouty, Krulak's Lansdale ID quote in this starkly contradicts the Krulak statement mentioned in R. Clarks post of calling Prouty's Lansdale theory "kooky." Which Krulak quote of the two are we to believe? If Krulak actually called Prouty's Lansdale theory kooky, and then seeing Krulak's Lansdale affirmation written words in his response letter back to Prouty regards the three tramp walk bye photo, one could rationally question Krulak's credibility as much as Prouty's imo.

Let's hear Krulack saying the Prouty -Lansdale in Dealey Plaza - theory was kooky. If you can't link the actual tape, how about a complete transcript of the interview, so we can see the full context of it and Krulak's statements. Prouty infers that Krulak also saw a strong Lansdale resemblance to the Dealey Plaza man after seeing the 3 tramp walk-bye photo Prouty sent to him? Prouty made this Krulak reaction up? So, the point here I assume is that Prouty is about as credible as Judyth Vary Baker? Embellishing and exaggerating and making things up as he goes along? Prouty the kook?

Joe Biden just passed the "80 million" mark in the popular vote count. With another 1,000,000 + vote results yet to come in from New York State. Biden was getting 57% of the votes in New York State up until now. Trump 41.7%. Biden's margin over Trump in the popular vote count is currently at 6,100,000. Will top off around 6.3 million when New York State sends in the rest of their tally.

Marijuana...the "gateway" drug. I was right there in the middle of the marijuana culture in the 1960's and 70's. All I ever saw was how marijuana had an opposite effect of mellowing people versus people acting crazy, violent, irresponsibly unpredictable and dangerous in driving while drinking alcohol. Like most kids in the early to mid-60's I first tried alcohol as the right of passage into teenage rebellion behavior. It seemed fun to feel unpredictably bold, brazen and aggressive. You lost your shyness, your inhibitions. You finally had the balls to socialize with girls and joke with them (and even ask them to dance!) or even tell them you liked them more than alot. Alcohol was everywhere and cheap and easy to get. Half of everyone's parents got boozed up often. And every year, we lost kids in alcohol related car accidents, saw them get into fights with serious injury, police arrests and even death, abuse those around them, sexually assault girls and claiming they didn't even remember doing such. But, after switching to weed, you hardly ever saw these same young people doing those same crazy things. I almost killed myself and others 3 or 4 times driving drunk in my younger days. Never did anything crazy and dangerous like that after switching to weed and completely stopping the drinking of hard liquor. I was also witness to a kind of miraculous complete personality change by someone who daily drank hard liquor for decades and daily physically and verbally brutally abused his wife and others all around him. Every boozed up night he would watch the nightly news and with bulging red face and eyes screamingly curse JFK, commies, queers, ni##ers, Jews, democrats, etc. before finally turning his alcohol fueled rage toward his suffering, cowering wife and step children. Imagine an enraged Archie Bunker brained Frankenstein. A 6 ft 3 inch 250 pound one! At the age of late fifties to early 60's however, this monster was gently introduced to weed and within two months lost his appetite for hard liquor, even wine! His daily use of marijuna made him feel mellow, even happy! He would actually laugh heartily at TV show comedies or cry to serious human sadness ones. His record player and radio listened to music sounded much better. Instead of yelling at us "GD SOBS" to get out of "his" house he would actually smile and ask us to share a sandwich and a joint! And for the first time in 30 years he actually showed some signs of generosity. I picked up something at the store for him and he thanked me and told me to "keep the change baby!" A whole nickle! He completely stopped beating his wife and instead would look at her with love and would actually tell her "I love you my darling!" His wife ( our mother) would often cup her hands in prayer and lift them up and thank God for this mana from heaven marijuana while in the kitchen cooking or cleaning up. I'm not making this true story up or embellishing it or exaggerating. Marijuana was the anti-depressant my step-father had needed his entire life but was too afraid to take. An anti-depressant that totally suppresed his craving and addiction to hard liquor he had been suffering with for 40+ years! Alcohol was and still is more than a "gateway" drug. It was the "direct main door" into injurious behavior, health and even madness and death...for the millions who used it and still use it to escape their deeper emotionally injured selves and issues.

Paul, I was 12 years and two months of age on 11,22,1963. I had the same exact experience as you regards that day and for days and even weeks after. I too was watching the Oswald transfer live on TV the morning of 11,24,1963. I was alone in an upstairs bedroom watching an old grainy black and white TV we brothers were given when our stepdad bought a new color one for his own viewing downstairs. The second Ruby bounded out and blasted a loud and fatal shot into Oswald's gut my entire body spontaneously and involuntarily leaped up from my lying down position on my bed to a standing one with me shouting ( also involuntarily ) "NO WAY, NO WAY...NO WAY!" Even as a 12 year old, I instinctively felt in every cell of my body, mind and soul that what I had just witnessed was something more than just a random act by some nut alone without assistance. That it was a set up. I swear, the "second" I saw Oswald brought out into the corridor leading to the press crowd and waiting transport car I thought to myself..." boy, Oswald sure looked way too open with just two security men at his side." For two days previous I watched TV 24/7 about the event. I heard it mentioned over and over how thousands of threats against Oswald were continuously coming into the Dallas PD from all over the nation. Oswald's personal safety concerns were a real part of the event coverage. That is why I was so shocked at how open Oswald appeared when he was first brought into the corridor leading to the press crowd and the waiting transport car. The whole scene seemed so crowded, so uncontrolled. People yelling, lights flashing, press people just feet from Oswald and jostling forward. Similar to the craziness of packed hallways and a yelling, jostling press in the DPD building the last two nights before. The police escorting Oswald in the DPD the nights before seemed to be in a physical fight to get through the press people like football team offensive linemen trying to shove the defense opponents out of the way to get their running back room to move forward. It was laughable but disturbing at the same time. Why allow your DPD headquarters to be over-run like that. To where you can't even get your suspect from room to room? It was a circus! Keep the press separated in designated areas for a press briefing and away from Oswald instead of inches from him I thought, again even at my young age. The DPD were totally responsible for Oswald's security and safety once he was in their custody. Oswald's murder in their custody and right inside their own building was all on them and their management heads that chose the security measures that failed in a worst possible case scenario. Nowadays, the family of a yet to be tried criminal suspect murdered inside a police department building, especially one receiving more death threats than any criminal suspect in American history, would have sued for a huge sum for such negligence. Hard to imagine a truly impartial jury ever available in Oswald's case, but the DPD negligence was so obvious, so worst case scenario bad, a jury today would have no choice but to rule for some type of compensation to a surviving wife and children. Ruby's defense claims of brain damage, or temporary insanity with lost mental and emotional control due to his grief and protective retribution feelings for Jackie Kennedy or to prove Jews had guts or a rage at seeing a smirk on Oswald's face are as ridiculous sounding today as they were 57 years ago. The truth about anything other than a deranged nobody nut seeking attention and fame and being incredibly time, place and opportunity lucky in taking out JFK in front of hundreds was destroyed by Jackie Kennedy avenging and Jews have guts promoting strip joint owning Jack Ruby. Sorry, my life experience common sense will never allow me to buy that ridiculous scenario as concluded by an investigative commission that included JFK hating Alan Dulles, total FBI informant Gerald Ford, Dulles's close friend John McCloy and evidence controlled by JFK hating, "like brothers" close to LBJ, organized crime and Clint Murchison compromised J. Edgar Hoover and his bureau. The Ruby whacking Oswald event is the keystone one in suggesting a conspiracy in JFK's removal imo. Just too convenient is getting rid of the JFK case star witness.

There are indisputable historical facts, events and other discovered elements of the JFK assassination that will always keep the conspiracy take more believable to future generations than not imo. Imagine showing future generation young people "just these three" JFK related historical event videos and allowing them to ask the most basic questions about them and their context and content? The first video would be the 11,24,1963 live national television broadcast of Dallas,Texas strip joint owner Jack Ruby - leaping from a standing position mere feet away from a handcuffed Oswald - and then getting off an inches away blast of his 38 caliber Colt Cobra revolver right into Oswald's gut which of course brutally ended his life. Even junior high school aged children would ask the most simple common sense questions as to the circumstances surrounding this Ruby killing Oswald event and the only answers that could be given to their questions will always force even them to consider a reality different versus the official "Ruby was just another murder minded lone nut - like Oswald - who cracked and got lucky at just the right time and place." Was Oswald killed right inside the Dallas Police Department building? How was that possible? How did Ruby got into the actual police department building basement despite armed guards at every street entrance and 60 to 70 more armed and high anxiety state police personnel on the inside? Security screening of the press allowed into the DPD basement was extensive yet no one notices an unscreened street person sauntering right in? Ruby is able to immediately position himself in the press crowd to the closest Oswald walk-by proximity point? Just prior to Ruby's Oswald shooting leap, he is hiding inches behind a hulking Dallas Police officer that he has personally known well for years beyond normal police / citizen interaction and contact? Oswald was the most threatened criminal suspect in American history? Threats against his life were coming in by the thousands? Yet, the Dallas police heads decided to go against every security measure warning suggestion Oswald should be moved at night under extremely heavy guard and without public announcement? They instead actually announce in the public media the time and location of Oswald's day time transfer? Drawing a large crowd of possibly vengeance minded, worked up onlookers right across the steet from the Police department building? How illogical is that security planning? Oswald is paraded down a narrow corridor into and within feet of a jostling, yelling, blinding flash bulb non-police crowd wide open frontally with just two guards at his sides? Considering the threat level against him, shouldn't Oswald have been surrounded all around by police bodies at all times? In even my junior high age mind, that's what I thought would be the case. Oswald had his insides blasted open and there were no emergency medical personnel and or first aid supplies handy to deal with his most serious bleeding situation? This precaution didn't cross Oswald's security planners minds? The time it took to haul Oswald back through the corridor and then back again to the ambulance was crucial. And did you see how inadequately sized and equipped ambulances were back then? No bigger that a family sized station wagon. And how ill-equipped and medical emergency poorly trained ambulance drivers and attendants were back then? How's that for worst case Oswald security planning? So negligent in so many ways it shouts suspicion. Back in 1963 and still to this day, that live national TV broadcast of Ruby shooting Oswald was the greatest and most strongly effecting JFK conspiracy seeding event in the minds of the majority of Americans who witnessed this and especially after the absurdly illogical and incongruous Oswald security circumstances I mentioned in detail above were made public. Time cannot diminish this conspiracy feeding reality. Just show this single broadcast event to future generations along with it's full background context and I guarantee you, it will still create legitimate, valid and common sense conspiracy belief in the majority of it's viewer's minds. The other conspiracy belief bolstering video would be the LBJ interview by our most famous televsion news broadcaster of those times, Walter Cronkite. In which LBJ himself says 3 years after the Warren Commission finding ... "I don't think I nor anyone else can always be sure that others may have been involved" (with Oswald) in the JFK assassination. !!! If LBJ himself harbored and directly expressed to Cronkite his own personal doubt about the Warren Commission "Lone Nut" finding how can anyone still hang on to that tenet without seeing even a little problem with it's validity? No highest elective authority weight there? President LBJ's doubt input means nothing? A third video? Abraham Bolden? Miami Police intelligence officer Lt. Everette Kaye and the Joseph Milteer tapes? Sylvia Odio? Dallas station Rail Road traffic controller Lee Bowers? Bethesda Navy autopsy medical techs Paul O'Conner and Dennis David? Take your pick. The reality of hundreds of other proven facts and credible worthy testimony hugely contradicting the official WC "Lone Nut" conclusion will also always be there for future generations to study and decide for themslves whether a conspiracy was in play regards the JFK event. This mountain of conspiracy suggesting facts and evidence will never go away despite the purposeful and never ending effort to bury and downplay them. Also, Mark Lane's accusation of profiteering towards Abe Zapruder regards his film sale was valid imo. The $150,000 Zapruder received for his JFK assassination film in 1963 equates into $1.3 million worth of value in today's dollars at an 8.5 X times inflation rate adjustment. Zapruder donated $25,000 to J.D. Tippit's widow. But did he also give away the rest of the huge money he was paid for the film? I never heard of him doing so. And did any other film or famous still photograph taking person in Dealey Plaza that day make even one dime off of their film's or photo's? Or anything more than a small amount? And Zapruder's survivors were given 17 MILLION dollars by our own government for the the film 40 years later? Talk about enormous profit! Although I do not know myself whether the Zapruder family donated any or a good amount of that 17 million dollars to chairity. Zapruder gave 25,000 dollars to Tippit's widow. One is forced by logic to assume that Zapruder did so because he thought Oswald killed her husband and Zapruder also believed Oswald killed JFK. Otherwise, their isn't a logical connection to Zapruder's motive in giving Tippit's widow such a large gift imo. Zapruder had no charity sympathy toward Oswald's widow Marina who was worse off financially than Tippit's widow? A young barely English speaking mother with no extended family support who was left with two infants and who even came from his parent's home country Russia? Oswald was killed just as brutally as Tippit and just as unjustly if one considers or believes his unproven guilt innocence and outrageous worst case scenario negligent security in the hands of the Dallas police. Marina Oswald was fairly soon however given sympathy and eventually much financial charity by many in this country, who gave her the benefit of doubt relative to her husband's alleged guilt regards Tippit and JFK. Seeing her as hurting and needing as Tippit's widow.

Since nobody has started a new thread regards this being the 57th anniversary of JFK's assassination, I thought I'd at least mention it on this our most active one . I surfed the main internet news sites for anything on the anniversary and all that popped up were two brief editorial pieces. One in a Tallahassee, Florida newspaper and another one in Texas I believe. The one from Florida just expresses the writer's "well read on the subject" conclusion that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in doing JFK. I guess when the JFK event passed the 50 year old historical mark it's anniversary is no longer considered worth mentioning in our main stream media anymore. I haven't been in any grocery stores this week to see whether the National Enquirer has any anniversary memorial front page mention of JFK's killing or of Trump's pet conspiracy belief that Ted Cruz's father was involved.

Seriously?

I try to never get personal with my forum postings. However, it's getting harder and harder for me to see the promotion of Trump and his belligerent, paranoid delusional actions and words which are encouraging tens of millions of American's to mistrust, disbelieve and even hate anything or anyone who criticizes him and to act overtly against them as well. It's nation dividing and vigilante mob inciting in it's most egregious forms. We saw intimidating, agressively honking, traffic blocking and even Biden vehicle endangering Trump support caravans being carried out by thousands all across the country. Pure Bully behavior. We saw Trump supporters planning a kidnapping of Michigan's Governor. Trump is planning "Stop The Stealing" rallys and you see "STS" protests now all across the country and here today in Atlanta. Please, we need to stop allowing this Trump false reality vote protest craziness. And we need to see it for what it is. it's paranoid delusional ! It's all a spoiled child's tantrum over losing something he doesn't want to give up. And the spoiled child is so obsessed ( even mentally ill imo) in his fight to get his way, he is willing to get the entire nation to join in his tantrum fight! The man is mad in this way. You know it. We all know it. Time to quit being pulled into Trump's madness!

This is surreal. Pure Trump inspired insanity. If the following Trump words don't shoutingly expose his deep and all consuming paranoia and delusions of stolen authority...what would? President Trump called a press briefing Friday to announce the implementation of his rules on drug pricing, which he said could save consumers hundreds or thousands of dollars a year, but got sidetracked with a rant against Big Pharma, which he blamed for sabotaging his reelection campaign because his policies would hurt their business. In particular, he attacked Pfizer, the largest drug company in the U.S., just two hours after his press secretary, Kayleigh McEnany, claimed credit for the development of Pfizer’s new COVID-19 vaccine on behalf of the administration’s Operation Warp Speed program. Trump accused Pfizer of waiting to announce the success of their phase III vaccine trial until the day after the presidential election in order to avoid helping him. Apparently, in his mind, it didn’t work. Trump proclaimed that he won the election anyway, as he has all along, notwithstanding Joe Biden’s commanding lead in both the popular and Electoral College votes. “Pfizer and others even decided to not assess the results of their vaccine, in other words, not come out with a vaccine, until just after the election,” Trump said. “That’s because of what I did with favored nations and these other elements. Instead of their original plan to assess the data in October. So they were going to come out in October, but they decided to delay it because of what I’m doing, which is fine with me because frankly this is just a very big thing.” Trump made that accusation the same day that Pfizer submitted its COVID-19 vaccine to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for emergency use authorization, the first company to do so. “Big Pharma ran millions of dollars of negative advertisements against me during the campaign, which I won by the way, but, you know, we’ll find that out. Almost 74 million votes,” Trump said, failing to mention that Biden had so far received nearly 80 million votes nationwide. “We had Big Pharma against us. We had the media against us. We had big tech against us. We had a lot of dishonesty against us.”

"Orwellian American News." Perfect.

A rational person can't help but consider the possibility of a conspiracy by looking at and pondering just "one dozen" of the thousands of improbable and contradicting facts, events, backgrounds and testimonies of so many JFK event related characters and especially the main ones. Seeing non-screened, slipping right in, armed, sleazy strip joint owner Jack Ruby get within inches of a handcuffed and two guard escorted Oswald to blast out his insides "right inside a police department building" filled with 70 hyper- nervous armed security all around on live national TV was enough "on its own" to put massive logical suspicion in the minds of most Americans. That event and the nationwide suspicion it created will never go away. Rationally and deservedly so. All of us on this forum could come up with 100 more rational conspiracy suspicion begging points of fact just off the tops of our heads. There is so much improbable fact illogicalness in this context it is more rational than not to consider a conspiracy. Just another hard to fathom event fact ( for me and I am sure millions of others ) is the almost unbelievable actions of Lee Harvey Oswald within seconds of his alleged shooting of JFK. Imagine if you just blew the head off of the President of the United States ( and knew it ) and you knew that within seconds an army of police would be coming for you with guns pointed and you would be just one unexpected body movement away from them blowing your head off too? So, you do this insanely life and death risking act, then you run down some stairs and go into a lunch room with a door window to see you inside...and you then dig in your pocket for a quarter, slip this into a Dr. Pepper soda pop machine, get your bottle and pop the cap and just calmly stand around sipping this while frantic kill minded cops are running into and all through your building. Sorry, in my mind no one could be that controlled and calm just seconds after doing what Oswald supposedly did unless they were either trained or programmed to be so or loaded up on sedatives. Just another incredibly improbable action fact that literally forces one to consider something more going on in the larger picture than just one attention seeking lone nut getting incredibly lucky in defeating an army of security all around him and simply walking "not running" away from the frantic cops everywhere scene to catch a local bus a few blocks away. ???

Joe Biden's popular vote winning margin over Donald Trump just went over the 6 million mark. Biden's vote total is also just 230,000 shy of 80,000,000, which he will reach in the next few days. Al Gore won the 2,000 presidential popular vote over GW Bush by 500,000. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in 2016 over Donald Trump by 2,900,000. Now Biden wins the 2020 popular vote by a 6,000,000+ margin. If Trump and/or our federal Supreme Court reverses the election results and places Trump back in the presidency ... What are we 80,000,000 Biden voters supposed to think?

I've been here in California since 1952. It would take 2 books to thoroughly describe how much California has changed in the last 60 to 70 years. California was a place full of hope, promise and opportunity for the young and middle and even lower middle income working class ( my situation ) up until the late 1980's imo. And it was mostly a safe place to live everywhere except in a few areas of Los Angeles and the San Francisco Bay area. Gangs weren't as prevalent back then. Over-crowding and traffic were no where near as bad as they are here now and since the late 1980's. In my case, graduating high school in 1969 there were plenty of jobs from entry level manual labor ones to an ever growing upper income professional level. Our community college system was fantastic as an affordable bridge to 4 year colleges. I remember being able to simply walk into the state employment offices ( they had branches everywhere ) and literally walking out with a day labor job or even longer term entry level ones every time. You simply sat down with a job placement person "one-on-one!" They were fully staffed at that time and always seemed sincerely helpful and within 20 minutes you were on your way. No computers, no cell phones, electric typewriters and copy machines were the most advanced high tech tools. Apartments were always available and even someone earning minimum wage could afford them. I was one of those minimum wage workers with my own apartment and in nice safe areas to boot. Rent, gas, food, cars ...everything was affordable. Wanting to leave my small town childhood area and see the world ( California was so big it was the world) I took off before I was 20 to see if I might like to live elsewhere in the state with, again, educational, work and social opportunity, fulfillment and safety. This was the early to mid 1970's. I lived in all the following areas ( at first arriving by Greyhound bus and a few years later by my own car ) with just one suitcase and a few hundred dollars saved up. After first checking into a motel, within days I could find an apartment. They didn't require extensive FBI and credit background checks and first and last month deposits. And again, I always found manual labor jobs within days to get an immediate source of rent and food paying income. I took city buses to work and any other place I wanted to see. I checked out Santa Barbara, San Diego, Santa Monica, Sacramento, San Jose, even a little mountain town named Bishop. I always found a job ( willing to take minimum wage ) and an apartment. I slept on floors with no furniture. Just a couple of blankets, a pillow and a clock and radio. An indulgence was treating myself to $2 "Blue Light Special" lunches at Kmarts which also seemed to be in most towns. I was young, healthy and used to being poor. I didn't need much to get by. I was living life like Richard Kimball in the TV show "The Fugitive" except without the relentless pursuit of a Lt Philip Gerard on my tail. Greyhound bus jumping from town to town, job to job. I loved seeing these other parts of California ( Oregon too - Portland, Salem and Coos Bay ) even though I didn't stay long in any of them ( at the most 3 or 4 months ) for varied reasons. None of which were safety and opportunity reasons. I always came back to my home town of Monterey, CA however after several years of this adventurous on-the- road young vagabond life. Again, made possible because everything was so affordable back then, even for minimum wage workers. I'm not starting a book here. I'm sure it seems that way, sorry. Just describing how open, safe, promising and AFFORDABLE life here in California was in that time period versus today from a very close up view such as mine and living on the barest of incomes. Jumping from the 1970s to the 1990s and the present life here in California is as different from that time period as a Ray Bradbury other world visiting tale. Even the main language spoken here now is different. More Spanish than English. Homes that were $50,000 dollars in the 1970's now cost $300, 000 to $750,000. Rents take over 100% of most "full time " manual labor entire monthly job incomes. California state income taxes went from 1/10 of federal to half it seems to me. The population has exploded so much that apartments are very difficult to find except in the most dangerous of areas and even those rent for more than most monthly incomes. Millions of homes and apartments here are shared by multiple families and rent sharers. Traffic in all the larger cities is beyond what you can imagine. California is a state of economic and ethnic Islands. Starkly so. When I was in my early to mid and even late twenties and early thirties, you could affordably move to almost any area of Caifornia and immediately fit in as the entire state mostly shared a common cultural and working class economic bond. Now, the only common bond is the insanely hyper-inflated cost of basic living expenses which one single non-professional person or even a working class couple ( over half the population ) cannot afford without having to share their living accomodations with others. Millions of young adults have to stay in their parent's long ago affordably bought homes ( into their thirties ) because they can't afford even an apartment. And now with the job destroying Covid situation life for young Californians is even more stressful economically. We get by barely ourselves. Never able to afford buying a home. Renters for 50 years. We share our rental. Too old and unhealthy to move out of state and start over. Don't mean to sound so negative and self-pitying. We live in a beautiful area and have family and friends and children. Relatively good life compared to 50 million hugely stressed unemployed Americans right now. But, California is a very, very complex state in every way. Incredibly mixed ethnically, economically, linguistically, ideologically, culturally. In the larger cities and on the Coast very liberal. In the small rural counties very Trump loving red neck if you will. This is part of the diversity I am talking about.

Although your postings are considered somewhat sharp edged and confrontational to some, I often find your different perspective and sometimes broader historical info takes interesting and informative. And your posting input isn't nearly as antagonizing, confrontational and inciting as R.Wheeler's imo. I'm just a single member but I hope you change your mind regards leaving the forum. As Joe Biden would say "COME ON MAN!" Don't let a "one word" forum rule upset you. Heck, just use the word "fascist" as so many already do here without forum rule violation repercussions. If that doesn't work how about "Walt Disneyish?"

Enlightening as well as entertaining. Yes, the rich slave owners of the South were the responsible party creators with all their wealth, power and control. Poor folk in those states (even though a majority) as always had no say in the matter. And as always again, It was simple obsessive greed in protecting and increasing their wealth, power and control that motivated these organizers of the secession movement. The same simple MO of the killers of JFK for sure.

I tried to post a picture of myself taken about 4 years ago but it would not go through. My current ID pic here is when I was about 33. At 69, I now look like a very overweight and extremely life stressed facial expression Mitt Romney with Albert Einstein wild white hair as the hair cutting places locally are not always open or adequately staffed. I'll try again with a new pic however I'm a little afraid that posting the current me might be too much of a shock for many members who have seen the much more youthful, healthy and thin me the last 4 years. And I guess I might as well add, my speaking voice pitch, tone and manner is akin to Robert Stack of TV show "Untouchable" and "Unsolved Mysteries" fame? It's interesting to know the actual voices of our members like Jim DiEugenio, Joseph McBride, Doug Caddy, Vince Palamara and a couple of others who have been interviewed many times on nationally broadcast radio and TV shows.