1 hour ago, W. Niederhut said:

Joe,

     In a nutshell, we're talking about a severe Axis II Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

    The classical theory of narcissism, as described by the Viennese psychoanalyst Heinz Kohut, is that early in life the narcissist defends against feelings of inner worthlessness by developing an imaginary, "grandiose self."  They, then, tend to project both experiences of the self-- wonderful and worthless-- on to the rest of the world, perceiving others as either idealized, wonderful "winners," or worthless, abject "losers."

     Of course, in reality, we all have good and bad traits.   So, among other problems, NPD is a cognitive-perceptual disorder.

    Trump is really a textbook case of an extreme narcissistic personality-- a man who even idealizes his own excrement to the extent that he craps in a golden toilet! 

     He idealizes wealth-- even proclaiming in 2017 that he "only wanted rich people in (his) Cabinet."

     Conversely, he imagines that those who are poor, working class, or have dark skin, etc., are worthless "losers," from "sh*thole" countries and neighborhoods.

     And Trump also has features of sociopathy-- i.e. Anti-social Personality Disorder-- which can co-occur with narcissistic personality disorders.

     Sociopaths are characterized by a lack of empathy, "conscience," and guilt about harming others (including animals.)  Beginning early in life, they develop a sense that they can only get their needs met by manipulating others-- rather than by trusting others to respond to their needs in a nurturing, compassionate manner.  And they typically have no identification with a moral, compassionate parental figure-- either because the parents are absent, or sociopathic themselves.  (Oddly, there also seems to be a genetic determinant of ASP in some adoption studies.)

     One of Trump's biographers has mentioned that Donald has always gotten a kick out of scamming people, and getting away with scams.

      IMO, he also has a sadistic streak-- seeming to enjoy harming people.

If anyone here viewed the recently televised Netflix documentary "Bully. Coward. Victim." "The Story Of Roy Cohn." they would have seen how Donald Trump became acquainted, interacted with and was influenced by Cohn himself.

Trump is so much like the Joe McCarthy and Mob lawyer Cohn we see in the documentary.

Cohn is shown to be an almost unbelievable piece of ruthless deviancy work.

The man was described as the essence of evil by many who knew him and were interviewed for the documentary.

My guess is Trump did and still does think highly of Roy Cohn.

His kind of role model.

Humanizing Roy Cohn in new HBO doc

ANDREW O'HEHIR

6 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

It's one more example, among many, of how Trump constantly "projects" his own misconduct on to others.

He is, unquestionably, the most "crooked" politician in American history, by several orders of magnitude.  Yet, he labeled his 2016 opponent, "crooked Hillary."

Simultaneously, he repeatedly attacked the Clinton Foundation in 2016 as corrupt-- then, ultimately, had to close the Trump Foundation because it was thoroughly corrupt.

He brought some of Bill Clinton's former sex partners to a debate against Hillary at the very time that he was paying hush money to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal -- and working with Fox and David Pecker to bury stories about his sex life.

In a realistic sense, we can often identify Trump's own criminal conduct on the basis of his projected accusations against his adversaries.

In this instance, we see a POTUS who was elected by foreign interference in our elections claiming that his opponents will be elected by...foreign interference.

WN, what is the mental health term or terms to describe someone who constantly creates a false reality mental image of themselves, especially one of highly exaggerated grandiosity and importance?

And who then obsessively and super aggressively projects and promotes this self-aggrandizing facade in their everyday interactions with others no matter how preposterously over-boasting this exaggerated falsity sounds and is to those they present this to?

I am a stable genius. I am the greatest most achieving president in history. People love me.

The police, military and bikers think I am the greatest. Some people see me as their savior.

If I am voted out you are all doomed. You will lose your 401ks. The military will collapse. The police will not be able to protect you. I make deals no one can make. I am the greatest deal maker ever. I don't lie. Only the fake news press lie. My critics are all losers. My accusers are all XXXXX.

My take on Trump is that he is so insecure on so many emotional levels that he is pathologically driven to create and overly promote his own world of highly exaggerated achievement to avoid facing the truth of his own fragile ego and personal weaknesses and failures. Like his greatest deepest fear is to face the reality that he is simply no more talented, tough, strong, skilled, virile, smart, attractive and special than any other person.

And that he is actually (more than most other people) a very scared and self-doubting person. To child like degrees.

More than any other personal ego consideration, Trump has always put his self-worth image value and stock into the measurement of his accumulation and ownership of monetary wealth.

If you are low income or poor you just don't measure up. You are a "loser."

Wealthy people are all "winners." No matter how they accumulate or use their wealth.

I wonder if Trump's father constantly imbued into his son Donald's young developing mind this cold, hard, black and white simplistic and narrow view of the world and humanity.

Yet, isn't this high wealth self-worth measurement standard the most empty and weak of all?

In the final days, minutes and seconds of one's life, I imagine the truth of this emptiness becomes clear. 

Like in the film "Citizen Cane" when the super wealthy Hearst like character is dying, his final thoughts and words went back to his innocent child heart warming memories over any others ... "Rosebud."

I see the patch. Hard to speculate why that small area was patched.

However, I watched the video of JFK's actual head shot and I can't find any puff of smoke at all.

Any idea what the circle was and how in anyway it had something to do with the shooting that day?

If Biden had a half empty arena turnout for any type of rally, Trump would blast 10 tweets in the hour following with incessant crows of "Loser."

He would go on and on and on what a pathetic non-event disaster it was.

Some say on this morning's T.V. political talk shows the Trump rally turnout was only 6,200!             

2/3rds empty!

Beto O'Rourke could do better than that.

54 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Back in Washington after the rally that only 7000 attended in a hall that seats 19,000. Trump looks like reality is setting in.

 

It really is. There is much worry and doubt in that face.

But, when you've got a 24 year younger hottie waiting in your WH bedroom to give you a soothing Jeffrey Epstein type message, and sexily whispering words of consoling encouragement in your ear at the same time...things can't be that bad.

1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Looks like John Bolton's releasing his book is a "drug deal" gone bad. He will be prosecuted for using classified information in the book and will lose his $2,000,000 advance in forfeiture. He has no friends in Washington, either Republican or Democrat, and everyone is unanimous in watching with pleasure as he is forced to fall on his own sword.

Doug, will Bolton lose his $2,000,000 advance if the courts agree with Trump?

Wow!   That's a huge and humiliating loss for Bolton.

Bolton for sure thought his final retirement years would be financially flush and secure. And he'd have some decent assets to leave to his children.

If Trump wins and takes all that away from Bolton, I almost can't imagine the hate he would feel for Trump in his final indulged security stripped retirement years.

The guy held all this information back from Congress when they were pleading for such for one reason. And now it has all backfired.

6 hours ago, Ray Mitcham said:

Trump's team will spin that his supporters were obeying the medical instructions to self

Wow!

Ray, the photo you posted really captures the shockingly low turnout for Trump's rally.

The entire upper deck is virtually empty!

The panned shots on most of the media only show two upper deck sections at a time. So you don't get the full emptiness reality.

So, the arena was what - maybe half full?

And only a handful of Trump supporters turned out for his outdoor talk?

Like Huffington Post reported in their lead article right after the ridiculously over hyped PR debacle ... Trump Rally Falls 985,000 Short!

43 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Hey, a Trump supporter does not even have to go to the rally in Tulsa tonight to catch the evil virus. Just intermingle with the Trump campaign team in Washington.

Six members of Trump's campaign team test positive for COVID-19

31 mins ago

 

 

 

WASHINGTON, June 20 (Reuters) - Six members of President Donald Trump's campaign advance team have tested positive for COVID-19 ahead of a controversial rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma, on Saturday, the campaign said.

 

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/six-members-of-trumps-campaign-team-test-positive-for-covid-19/ar-BB15LfLn?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=UE07DHP

 

Egads!

This Trump push to downplay the virus risks and get people out into the open public areas and back to work seems to be significantly backfiring in short order.

You wonder what the formerly Trump defending and praising families of those who get the virus and suffer extreme pain and injury and even die, will say after their loved ones became afflicted like this because they did what Trump told them to do.

Get out there and mingle and work! And to heck with masks!

How's this for ponderous postings RW?

Glad you enjoy reading them regardless.

I'm sorry, but watching coverage and interviews of many of the Tulsa Rally crowd camping outside before the event is embarrassingly humorous.

It's like Larry The Cable Guy's entire family line is there.

Over fitting MAGA hats and thigh length "I HEART USA" or American flag T-shirts draped over obese pie eating contest winner frames.

Tight spandex leggings to boot.

Inarticulate Trump idolizing responses to press questions about their motivations and willingness to risk their lives defying Covid-19 distancing and mask wearing warnings.

Blissfully enthused to sit near and cheer their moral savior's every shouted word.

Reminds one of those crazy televangelist preacher shows years ago like Jimmy Swaggart where they would grab and slap some supposedly severely handicapped audience member's head and shout "HEAL ...HEAL!" and the head slammed person would slowly stand up shaking and in tears scream - "I'M HEALED"  ... "Praise The Lord...I'M HEALED!"

And the next thing you would see on your TV screen would be large print address info regards where to send your church funding checks to.

In reality Trump wouldn't hang within fifty miles of most of these rally attendees.

These are not Trump's favored social circle types.

We used to have a K-Mart here many years ago. I am sure city business leaders were always embarrassed about their presence in such a wealthy resort area as ours.

Within ten years the store just wrapped up and left.

I used to shop there being poor myself. It was cheap and the quality of the items sold there was too. Once they tried to up their image with a new "Jaclyn Smith" clothing line introduction. Later they added a "Martha Stewart" product line. I bought and for years used a clear plastic bathroom trash receptacle container that had Martha's name on it. I felt it gave me some class when my bathroom using friends would see this.

I can still hear the store loudspeaker announcing ...

"Attention K-Mart shoppers, our BLUE LIGHT SPECIAL lunch is now available at our serving counter for just $ 1.95. Today's delicious entree...meat loaf with mashed potatoes!"    I rush to the serving station, load up, sit down at one of their little tables and ... mmmm yummy!

Looking at so many of the pre-Trump Rally crowd took me back to those nostalgic times and the crowd I would mingle with at that warm feeling K-Mart.

Trump can't win in this battle with Bolton.

The book is out there now for all to read.

No matter how effective Trump is in exacting retribution against Bolton, the damage toward Trump is done.

Now, if somehow Trump's courts can and do take away Bolton's profits from the book ( can they actually get Bolton's advance? ) I wonder if a livid Bolton just might have something even heavier to expose about Trump that he would bring forth publicly?

The money Bolton has received or will receive from this book is surely the biggest financial windfall he has ever seen or will see the rest of his life.

This was Bolton's ticket to a very secure retirement life and perhaps even a big endowment to his survivors.

I just don't see Bolton letting someone strip away all that and at the same time, damaging his reputation, integrity and legacy and then meekly going gently and quietly into that good night.

Statue toppling has taken place even here in California.

In several areas besides my home town and first state capital, Monterey!

However, this took place several years ago and didn't have to do with black slavery and the civil war.

1 hour ago, John Butler said:

Jim Garrison was a truly Great American.

Let me list just ten achievements of the deceased DA in comparison to work by Americans that came before him between 1964-67.

1. Garrison was the first critic to declare that Oswald was an agent provocateur, probably in the employ of the CIA.
2. The DA was the first critic to find out just what the stamp 544 Camp Street on Oswald’s pamphlet meant.
3. Garrison was the first person to make a solid connection between Oswald, Ferrie, and Shaw, at the above Clinton/Jackson incident.
4. The DA was the first critic to understand that Mexico City was a central part of the plot to kill Kennedy.
5. Garrison was the first critic to comprehend that the escalation of the Vietnam War was a direct result of Kennedy’s murder.
6. First critic to prove that Clay Bertrand was Clay Shaw (DiEugenio, pp. 387-88)
7. Garrison’s leads were paralleled and backed up by the FBI (Click here for details)
8. First critic who said JFK’s murder was a coup d’etat
9. First critic who said the murder of JFK was designed to roll back JFK’s foreign policy. (Click here for details)
10. First critic to say the murders of MLK and RFK were related to JFK.

Compare Jim Garrison to Kerry Thornley?  IMO, Thornley was CIA and that's what his framing of Oswald was about.  Some would call that patriotism or being a great American.  But, I don't.  Everything I read about Kerry Thornley comes up questionable. 

Exactly.

Imagine if Jim Garrison had never taken on his investigation?

The entire important and revealing history of Oswald in New Orleans the summer of 1963, as well as the nefarious covert doings of so many other intelligence connected major characters there before and during Oswald's time, would be forever buried in the graveyard of hidden secrets and truths.

Garrison paid a price for his incredible effort to seek the broader truth.

It came with real and heavy personal sacrifice losses including family stress, criminal indictment, long term personal integrity and reputation public scorn and attack and on and on. 

Honestly, if the only investigation of Oswald and his 1963 time in New Orleans was left to our main corporate media and Hoover, probably the only thing we would know is Oswald's filmed leaflet passing and radio and TV appearance where he claimed he was a Marxist and later claims of a mutual love affair by Judyth Vary Baker.

No Bannister, Ferry, Shaw, Jackson visit, Sergio Smith, hip talkin', shrimp cocktail slobbering, gay boys defending Dean Andrews, Jack Martin, etc.

And no Oliver Stone "JFK" film.      What a loss.

Just read your essay.

Don't know how you manage such deep research of so many JFK related subjects.

I need to rest and digest this Thornley piece. 

As always, incredibly thought provoking.

Maybe I can actually get a few Zzzzz until our day starts at 7 to 8.

The time line of Oswald's activities versus this woman's claims of seeing him on the afternoon of 11,22,1963 make her sound ... NUTS!

And she says Oswald said to her and her friends at lunch "I'm going to shoot him anyway."

???

Did any of the other ladies with her verify Oswald said this to them?

Damned liberal democratic party agitators! 

The Brooks Brothers riot was a demonstration at a meeting of election canvassers in Miami-Dade County, Florida, on November 22, 2000, during a recount of votes made during the 2000 United States presidential election.

The demonstration[edit]

Hundreds of paid GOP operatives descended upon South Florida to protest the state's recounts,^[1] with at least half a dozen of the demonstrators at Miami-Dade paid by George W. Bush's recount committee.^[2] Several of these protesters were identified as Republican staffers and a number later went on to jobs in the Bush administration.^[3]

The "Brooks Brothers" name is a reference to the protesters' corporate attire; described in the Wall Street Journal as "50-year-old white lawyers with cell phones and Hermès ties", the protesters were corporate-sponsored and flown in, as opposed to being local citizens concerned about counting practices.^[2][4]

The demonstration was organized by Republican operatives, sometimes referred to as the "Brooks Brothers Brigade",^[5] to oppose the recount of ballots during the Florida election recount. Realizing that they could not meet a court-ordered deadline, the canvassers decided to limit the recount to the 10,750 ballots rejected by computer, and moved the counting process to a smaller room closer to the ballot-scanning equipment to speed up the process, while restricting media access to 25 feet away while they continued. Republicans objected to this change of plans and insisted the canvassers must do a full recount. At this time, New York Rep. John Sweeney told an aide to "Shut it down."^[2][4][6] The demonstration turned violent and according to The New York Times, "several people were trampled, punched or kicked when protesters tried to rush the doors outside the office of the Miami-Dade supervisor of elections. Sheriff's deputies restored order." DNC aide Luis Rosero was kicked and punched. Within two hours after the event, the canvassing board unanimously voted to shut down the count, in part due to perceptions that the process wasn't open or fair, and in part because the court-mandated deadline was impossible to meet.^[7][8][9]

The controversial incident was set in motion by John E. Sweeney,^[10] a New York Republican who was nicknamed "Congressman Kick-Ass" by President Bush for his work in Florida.^[11] Sweeney defended his actions by arguing that his aim was not to stop the hand recount but to restore the process to public view.^[12] Some Bush supporters did acknowledge they hoped the recount would end. "We were trying to stop the recount; Bush had already won," said Evilio Cepero, a reporter for WAQI, an influential Spanish talk radio station in Miami. "We were urging people to come downtown and support and protest this injustice." A Republican lawyer commented, "People were pounding on the doors, but they had an absolute right to get in."^[7] The protest prevented official observers and members of the press from getting in.^[9][13]

You would think nosey Earlene Roberts would have seen Oswald getting on and off of the buses, especially since his room was just inside the main house entrance and next to her own sleeping quarters and the bus stop could be seen outside her main activity area.

She would sit in the living room just outside Oswald's room and watch TV.

She even knew what specific items of food Oswald brought into the shared kitchen refrigerator.

I assume Oswald and Earlene shared the same bathroom as well?

Talk about not having any privacy in your basic living environment.

1 hour ago, Steve Thomas said:

https://boingboing.net/2020/06/19/donald-trump-threatens-protest.html

Donald Trump threatens protesters while promoting Oklahoma campaign rally during pandemic

He seems eager for violence.

Trump clearly gets off making tough guy threats of the great harm his security people could do to anyone who even thinks about getting too out of line in their protests.

You can feel his turned on pleasure in doing so.

Oh Boy, the things we can unleash on you if we choose to. Vicious dogs, ominous weapons. You want to feel real pain? Come on, try something. Come on ... I dare ya!

It's a taunting.

It's actually sadistic.

 

2 hours ago, Rob Clark said:

I'm merely suggesting it....five of his coworkers testified that was the case. It would have only added 5 mins or so to Buell Frazier's commute each way...would you do that for a friend who worked at the same place you did that didn't have a car? I'm saying folks that ride the bus to and from work, generally do so on a daily basis. The bus driver would normally drive the same routes everyday...so where are they? Why didn't the WC try to establish this? They seemingly looked into every other aspect of Oswald's life...

The bus stop was literally on the corner of Zangs and Beckley...the rooming house is the second house down from the corner, definitely observable from anyone peeking out the window of the rooming house. Curious indeed....

Yes, I agree.

Are you saying that Frazier drove to North Beckley each morning to pick up Oswald?

And drove him back there each work day as well?

I will say that if Oswald took the same morning bus to work the entire time he worked at the TXSBD ( not long but what-2 months?) you would think the driver of that bus ( if drivers back then usually did the same route) would have recognized any photos of Oswald when they were splashed everywhere starting 11,22,1963.

Especially if Oswald got on the same bus at the same pick up location each morning or took it back to Beckley as well at the end of the work day.

Did not "one" fellow resident of the rooming house or Robert's herself, ever see Oswald boarding or getting off of the bus in his comings and goings?

The bus stop was how far away from the rooming house? If it was two blocks or more away, one could understand nobody recalling seeing Oswald do this.

What in the world does a guy like this Sheriff Lamb say now when asked to defend his previous virus downplaying stand?

Pandemic making rents affordable again?

Two New York City grad school roommates are ecstatic about getting their two bedroom flat for the incredibly reduced price of only $4,900 a month!

In San Francisco the average rent for a one bedroom apartment has dropped 9% to only $3,300 a month!

Two bedroom apartments there have dropped down to only $4,400!

Move in costs with first and last or first and one month security plus other basic expenses would only be $10,000!

Manhattan one bedroom apartments have dropped down to $3,300!

Where we live in California, rents haven't dropped at all.

Average home rental costs here are $3,500 to $4,000 a month. One bedroom apartments start at $2,000 a month.

$5,000 easy needed to move into a one bedroom apartment. And that doesn't include the actual cost of moving. Single rooms with shared baths are around $1,000 a month.

Trump's people feel unemployed American citizens have been spoiled by getting an extra $600 a month for two months. Destroying their work incentive!

Damn lazy spoiled people won't go back to their $10 an hour fast food, gas station, convenience and discount store, dish washing, maid, janitorial etc. jobs.

And can't they make due after we already sent them that one huge $1,200 check two months ago?

The people who own the fast food franchises and hotels and restaurants are suffering. They can't find workers for their minimum wage ( before taxes ) job positions.

GD these spoiled American workers!

No more huge $600 a month freebies. And you all can wait another 2 months if we even spoil you some more with another stimulus check.

You already got $1,200 in March. Couldn't you make due for 4 to 5 months on that fat amount?

56 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said:

How did Bloomberg marginalize Sanders and Warren when all his ads were anti-Trump?

Bloomberg didn’t siphon any votes from the left.

Biden won because black folks voted for him.

Bloomberg wasn't seriously attacking Trump.

He "had" to present himself with this cloth to justify and yet cover his true agenda in joining the race.

Here's how Bloomberg marginalized Sanders and Warren.

He made himself out to be a different take Dem choice than Warren and Sanders.

It wasn't a strong colorization ( supposedly more centrist than the dangerously radical Sanders and Warren )  but with MASSIVE marketing including almost daily brochures to Democratic party voters promoting this new candidate choice for them he was able to pull a good amount of voters away from them. Just by being a well known name mostly.

It wasn't hard to do. Many voters are swayed through massive marketing.

It reminded me of Ross Perot running as a third party candidate in the 1992 presidential election mostly on his own money.

In June of that year a Gallup poll showed he was leading both President Bush and Bill Clinton!

In the final election Perot pulled in an astounding 18.9% of the votes!

And this was after stopping his campaign efforts even before the election date, supposedly for security concerns for his family.

It is clear that Perot pulled enough votes away from George Bush to allow Clinton to win that election.

Perot pulled votes away from Bush much more than Clinton. Perot came across as a true Southern born, Texas twang good ole boy versus Bush's damn Yankee from Connecticut with fake Texas roots image.  True Southerners never really liked Bush that much anyway.

This is what Bloomberg did for Joe Biden in pulling enough votes away from Sanders and Warren beginning with the Super Tuesday elections.

Biden's black vote wasn't carrying him to victory as much as others claim. They make up only 13% of the electorate.

It was white voters who switched to Bloomberg that opened to door for Biden.

This was a deliberate agenda for Bloomberg.

He and his highest wealth corporate / investment bank base were clearly more anti-Sanders and anti-Warren than anti-Trump. Trump is one of them!

Didn't you read Bloomberg's own recorded words of warning to his Goldman Sachs about stopping Sanders and Warren?

And, if Bloomberg was serious that he joined the democratic primary race because he felt the candidates already in this weren't strong enough to defeat Trump, didn't this include Biden?

Of course his statement of such meant Biden too.

So, why instantly drop out of the primary race only when Sanders and Warren were marginalized. Why not continue on to defeat the other weak Democratic candidate Biden?

Bloomberg must have felt he was a stronger candidate than Biden. He had to have seen how poorly Biden did in the Democratic party primary debates.

2 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

 

As for Joe Biden, he has a serious goofiness problem.  It was obvious in the recent Democratic primary debates-- which he lost, consistently.

 

Biden owes Michael Bloomberg BIG TIME for marginalizing Sanders And Warren just enough with his 1/2 BILLION dollar "divide the democratic primary vote" campaign where Biden could then slip into the nomination with only a plurality of the vote.

56 minutes ago, David Andrews said:

1947 oral history recording of a Confederate footsoldier's recollections of Lee's surrender and the causes of the war.

Be prepared to depart this world without ever seeing a new Civil War movie.

Interesting.

However, would General Lee and so many other wealthy Southerners ( and obviously this speaker's parents as well ) set free their slaves had they not been confronted militarily and had the crap beaten out of them?

It's one thing to say you "grew" into a sympathetic Negro slave freedom mind set "after" the war.

And the man says the Southern boys were fighting more for "states rights" alone than the slavery issue.

How far can a federal republic founded on the principle that all men are created equal and have certain inalienable rights, go in allowing individual parts of that union to violate this most sacred constitution declared right of all?

There is a clear line of humanitarian right and wrong tolerance that supersedes "states rights."

What if this man and his Southern brotherhood had been forced into slavery themselves under the total control of complete authority "masters" who dictated their every life move and decisions?

Please, states rights...baloney!