Joe Bauer

9 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Incredible  pictures, this is going on all over: in Memphis, and Los Angeles and Denver.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/27/us/gallery/george-floyd-demonstrations/index.html

Someone on FB said, we need a Bobby Kennedy and posted his great Indianapolis speech the night King was killed.

I said, forget it.   We got dementia Biden, cover up Kamala and Amy K instead.

 

 

Jim, are you referring to Kamala Harris's and Amy Klobuchar's records as DAs?

I know you have researched Harris's background quite thoroughly and expressed your take on her in one of your essays and I agreed with your view.

Could you give us a brief re-summary of Harris as a DA ( and Klobuchar as well ) and why in your opinion their records in these positions might play against them regards this Minneapolis incident and maybe even the other two outrageous killings of blacks in just the last 20 days?

The lady whose home was mistakenly broken into by the Louisville KY swat team ( Paramedic Breonna Taylor ) and who was then lit up with shots from multiple high powered weapons and the killing of the jogger as well?

I wonder if Harris's tough on crime/protecting the police background and especially Klobuchar's will be an issue now in their standing for Biden's VP choice?

Or, will Biden, if choosing one of them, successfully be able to downplay this issue in promoting them as such?

Perhaps even getting so-called prominent black leaders to clear them in public statements?

Attempting to do a little homework regards a few of the persons close to MM up to the time of her death and their reflections of her.

Kirk's link to Lawford's biography, although quite general, conveyed some very interesting insight into Lawford's life and his personality. And his relationship to MM and other women in his life such as Patricia Kennedy and Lawford's awful mother.

There are quite a few video interviews out there of other characters who knew MM to some meaningful degrees that provide other glimpses of MM that may or may not be totally true and insightful but at least seem to be, again, to varying degrees imo.

Jim, you ask who the powerful men I mention as being threatened by a MM Tell-All would be?

A main one I believe is...Frank Sinatra! 

I believe his organized crime connections and background and what MM may have been made privy to in this regards was a major concern for him.

I am not totally convinced MM didn't take her own life.

Yet at the same time, in the power figure circles MM had been pulled into ( especially if in a sexual relationship way ) at the same time she was spiraling seriously downward mentally in her thirties, it's not hard to imagine a public interview meltdown where she let out all of her demons and personal resentments creating a major political, personal and business damage nightmare for those she mentioned.

MM was the central figure in at least one hot, even hateful grudge between some heavy weight characters in her later life.

DiMaggio toward Sinatra and maybe Giancana? DiMaggio toward the Kennedys?

DiMaggio carried a torch for MM his entire life that seemed way beyond any other of her relationships. He was greatly protective of her.

Why did he develop such a resentment towards Sinatra regards MM?  What did DiMaggio know about MM and Sinatra that inspired such deep and personal angst?

Same with the Kennedy's? Although with the Kennedys it may well have been simple raw jealousy.

Lawford's last years were classic fall from wealth and social grace humiliation.

Sad, but so common. Imagine the trappings of highest society wealth and glamour. It's such an indulged and pampered life. 

To have it and lose it in the same lifetime is so stark in it's ego damaging power, it's enough to inspire suicide or a major long term non-recovering mental breakdown.

The fascinating main story theme in Woody Allen's film "Blue Jasmine." Main character portrayed perfectly by the great actress Cate Blanchette.

1 hour ago, David Andrews said:

I've made the Jaws joke here, saying we're in too much haste to keep the beaches open.  Here's a writer that takes the metaphor, enviably, to the nth degree:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/may/25/ive-never-seen-jaws

 

Just two weeks ago we had a surfer ripped apart and killed by a Great White shark just 100 yards off-shore off of the Santa Cruz Ca. coast line.

This was right across the Monterey Bay ( 20 miles as the crow flies) from us here in Monterey.

I know of three shark attack kills right off our beaches here in my lifetime. Many more attacks with injuries.

Many have returned to the beaches here including surfers especially since it is so hot right now.

Wonder if the Covid-19 cases will jump in the next two to three weeks as a result.

So, right about now it's like "Contagion meets Jaws" around here.

And throw in skin cancer due to Ozone damage!

Trump supporters are blissfully happy through it all though.

11 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

      The COVID curve isn't really "flattening" in many parts of the U.S.-- especially in rural counties that strongly support Trump, according to William Frey at the Brookings Institute.  And now Trump is calling for church-goers to re-congregate ASAP, presumably with singing of hymns and mutual respiration of COVID-infested droplets, etc.

      Billy Graham's son, Franklin, said recently that Evangelicals need to put aside their fear of COVID and trust in God.  I was wondering if Franklin has also advised his flock to stop worrying about car accidents and to cease wearing seat belts.

Don't any of these religious group Trump re-congregate supporters ever pause in their blind loyalty thinking "for one second" when it's reported how many of their same stance pastors and church flock have died from the virus after attending these close contact church services?

Also, aren't these religious group Trump supporters "Christian principle" teaching, believing, promoting and revering organizations?

How do they rationalize Trump being their chosen political savior using their own Christian value teachings and edicts?

The man violates many of the ten commandment canons almost daily and has most of his entire life!

1. I am the Lord your God: you shall not have strange gods before me.

Trump's number one moral guidance reverence ( God ) is money. He constantly brags about it's importance, how much he has made and reminds his most important wealthiest backers how much he is making for them.

2. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain.

Constantly bragging about yourself and your own achievements and importance over crediting a Christian God's grace is the ultimate vanity.

3. Remember to keep holy the Lord’s Day.

Anyone here think Trump would stop trying to do a deal and make a buck on a Sunday or any other holy day?

4. Honor your father and your mother.

This he does but again, it's almost always bragging about how tough and successful his father was in making money.

5. You shall not kill.

How about inciting others to get so angry and hateful towards others, especially those whom he personally dislikes, which can and has lead to physical confrontation?

"I'll pay the legal fees" offer to those who rough up protesters at his political rallies?

Trump says he "likes conflict" and promotes it!  

6. You shall not commit adultery.

Oh Please!  

Classic serial adulterer.

And then lying about it and calling "every partaking woman" who comes forward about these extra-marital hookups...XXXXX?

And 43 more women willing to put their names in the public domain record recounting "grab em by the pu$$y" bragging Trump's unwanted sexual advances and actions towards them?

A book titled All the President's Women: Donald Trump and the Making of a Predator isn't challenged for libel in court by Trump?

7. You shall not steal.

Cheating or at least gaming the system ... taxes, bankruptcies, quick turn-around IPO sell offs, charity fund misuse, Trump University scam , money laundering, shady deals with shady characters for decades?

8. You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

How about personal enemies, business and political rivals?

9. You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife.

It's been reported Trump once claimed this was an exciting challenge for him.

10. You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods.

Again, Oh Please!

This is the best Christian value leader Trump's religious group followers can find and support?

Their blind loyalty reverence and support of such an obvious unchristian like man as Trump is so illogical and irrational...it's perverse.

Trump fits the Christian "eye of the needle" parable character to a T.

IMO.

On 5/22/2020 at 7:33 PM, James DiEugenio said:

Joe, it, was not a party, it was a dinner.

Jim - party, dinner, social get together? Does a specific description distinctly matter?

Did Monroe know that Lawford was looking for other attractive and available women to attend this dinner besides herself?

If he was I think most would know what that kind of social event enhancing was all about. 

And an important point or question would then be, did MM honestly believe Lawford's motive for inviting her ( besides other single women ) to this dinner was purely because of his innocent friendship with her and thinking she would simply like the conversation with others...or was it more for the hot female company pleasure of high powered male attendees?

 Maybe I'm wrong about the Lawford dinner, MM's invitation and this reported extra social sex enhancement effort on Lawford's part.

If I am I will admit I need to check my facts much more thoroughly than I have been.

Calling Lawford a "pimp" without knowing the deep research is wrong. However, in what reading and video interviews I have watched where Lawford is mentioned, this description of Lawford has been proposed before.

I read the first 20% of your essay. I promise I will read it all soon.

 

 Lawford liked MM.  He was in tears when he got the news.  And MM had a difficult day, since Schiller was trying to convince her to pose nude for Playboy and Newcomb did not want her to. Plus she had two sessions with her psychiatrist.

I am sure Lawford liked MM. What beautiful female loving male wouldn't? And many, many times people who knew Marilyn described her a genuinely kind, generous, sweet natured and pleasant person.

Sadly, it sounded like "every day" for MM for months and even years near her end were difficult ones.

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The idea that Lawford was a pimp is as nutty as saying Giancana was involved in her death,  and he sent two guys over in in a limousine and gave her a hot shot in the heart.  I guess you didn't read the essay Joe.  I don't go for character assassination.    And you should know that.  Its cheapjack writers I go after, and I did.

Can it be proven that Lawford wasn't "ever" a kind of social connection facilitator between top stars, celebrities and politicians?

Lawford would be perfect in this high society social role.

He was European urbane and moved in the highest social strata circles easily.

He was married to a Kennedy for 12 years!

He was an extremely good looking man, tall, athletic, well dressed, well spoken,  pleasantly charming, came from money and even had some royal lineage in his ancestral background.

Yet, Lawford also hung out with "The Rat Pack?"

Led by Frank Sinatra and Dean Martin who were not exactly Princeton grads.

These were tough Hoboken, N.J.and Steubenville, Ohio tenement neighborhood raised second generation Italian street guys who often referred to women as " dames" and "broads" and occasionally hung out with guys named Carmine, Mo Mo and Jilly.

Sinatra was even Mafia. Please, no debate on this common knowledge point.

Lawford oddly mixed with both circles ( until Sinatra cut him off over the humiliating cancelled JFK visit to Sinatra's home ) and that incongruous fact begs legitimate questions about Lawford and his character by association imo. 

Or how about RFK waiting for his wife to get to sleep, having a driver smash two gates, going to an airport, flying over the Santa Cruz mountains--in defiance of the Venturi Effect at night, landing somewhere in LA and driving to Brentwood--when MM is already dead, or at least in a comatose state. Or did you miss that?

I'm not at all promoting any JFK or RFK/MM death conspiracy.

What I do believe is that Marilyn Monroe could very well have been a serious threat to extremely high powered people in her fragile end of life mental state combined with what I believe were some deep resentments she had developed over the years regards feeling used and abused by some of these persons.

If MM did actually tell anyone close to her that she was even thinking of going public with her resentful feelings and intimate sexual affair knowledge of these high station men, it's just common sense to believe some of them would feel they could never allow this to happen.

So, obviously I feel MM's death could be the result of a threat removal by someone of great wealth and power. Framing JFK and RFK for her death sounds like the work of someone else trying to take them down though.

Now, I absolutely do feel Dorothy Killgallen was murdered versus suicide.

The death scene and her positioning in this is even more suggestive of fowl play than MM. To such a degree it's absurdly obvious.

 

 

2 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

That's just weird.  Who is this guy, is it a permanent tattoo?  Is there a story behind it?  If he gains much more weight in his belly ... it will become a stretch limo. 

HA HA HA HA HA... almost falling down laughing!

This isn't your belly is it David?

Marilyn Monroe would not go to the "party" at Peter Lawford's Santa Monica beach house.

She knew Lawford was basically a pimp and she had enough of it all.

I wonder how Kennedy's sister Patricia put up with him during his beach house partying and Rat Pack time. 

I was walking through San Francisco's Chinatown one weekday years ago. It was very hot (80 degrees) and early in the day with hardly any crowds.

A older, plump Chinese woman was standing out front her packed with junk store as if desperately looking for customers.

As I got close she kindly asked if I would like a glass of water. Appreciatively startled I stammered.."well...sure."

She ran back in her store. Came out with the glass of water and just as I reached out she pulled it back and said demandingly..."That be one dolla !"

I drew back and kind of offended by her falsely kind deception just walked past her and onto the Brasilian ( Consulate?" ) in the business district to get some paperwork for my son's travel papers there.

1 hour ago, Daniel Rice said:

Heck, that's the area code for Detroit 😮

HA!

3 hours ago, Pamela Brown said:

My apartment in San Francisco was 1306.  I think it is still there...

Actually, it was 66 Cleary Court, so three 6's...even worse...

I will never visit or live in an address with the number "313."

Same goes for a car license plate number.

I can never forget that is the frame number of JFK's head shot in the Zapruder film.

On 5/20/2020 at 11:59 AM, Kirk Gallaway said:

I think the closest I've seen anyone depict the situation with the MSM is William, just in passing, calling it the M$M, though I don't pretend to understand how the MSM plays up or ignores every story. One big example I see that MSM seems to ignore, is in Steve's story in the other thread about Trump's finances, his bankruptcies. I'm sure we'd know more if he released his taxes.

But it's really about  the aspect that's often ignored here, that is the  money To understand what stories get however much attention, the whole game in the MSM  should be looked at in regards to gaining market share outside of their perceived niche. For example , with some of the statements made here about the MSM, I wonder, "Do you  guys get cable TV?"  If you want to watch 24 hours straight of anti Trump television , watch MSNBC. That's their market niche and they thrown in some Republican neocons and never Trumper Republicans to expand their niche. If you're an ardent Trump fan,  you watch Fox. I think it's very unfortunate it's come to this because it reinforces an idea that there is no objective reality and you can believe  whatever source confirms your bias.

It's obvious you  think the press has more power than at least I do, Joe. So you think if they played this up and jammed it down enough people's throats it would make a real difference? After the Mueller investigation, and the Ukraine impeachment and trial in the Senate? I don't think so. I think the majority of people want the election to decide and at this point if they play up this story too much, it could back fire, and I think the press knows that they just won't get traction, or maybe I'm  speaking too soon. Maybe  this story does get more traction, say if there is reasoned to be a definite legal case against the President, they will play it up more. But at this point, I think everyone knows that unless the President dies of chloroquine poisoning, he's probably going to fill out his term.

 

 

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Kurt, yes, MSNBC is our main news station we watch most of the time.

Yes, it is anti-Trump.

Fox is the opposite, but has a much, much larger viewing audience.

These two news sites don't "balance each other out" in influence because of this huge difference in viewer numbers for Fox.

I am a news junkie for sure. Off and on everyday I scan the main internet news pages of up to 10 of our largest media corporations. 

ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, Huffington Post, AOL, Politico, and occassionally Yahoo, Alternet, Salon, The Hill.

I want to see stories of the day from as many perspectives as possible.

In the car I mostly listen to our San Francisco CBS affiliate station "KCBS."

Yet, with just a press of the "scan" button you can also find 24 hour broadcasts of political commentators. 95% of which are of the Trump defending and promoting right wing variety.

Limbaugh, Mark Levine, Michael Savage, Hannity, Glenn Beck, Alex Jones, and others and up until a few years Bill O'Reilly. I can't name a well known left wing radio talk show host anymore as I just don't see or hear of them being broadcast nationwide. 

24/7 radio political propaganda talk shows are the sole proprietorship of the extreme right wing and have been for decades and are a massively funded and hugely influencing medium. They all echo the Fox News line and often are even more right wing and Trump defending.

Getting back to my take on the large main TV media so-called "between" MSNBC and Fox News;

I don't agree that this larger body of news broadcasting is somehow less inclined to report political news stories with an extreme left or right bias as so many frame MSNBC and FOX News.

What I see is a very watered down version of reporting controversial political stories with hardly any investigative depth of true worthiness or weight.

Yes, many big investigation stories are broken by the New York Times, Washington Post and Huffington but rarely do we hear of the big letter news organizations like ABC, CBS, NBC doing their own digging and breaking these.

If someone wants to know the true deeper facts of important biographical or political context on Trump or most of his past and present cohorts in this regards or the deeper stories involved with events such as the Ukraine affair, you have to search for alternate news sites including watching MSNBC to find out what is really going on.

Americans who want to know the full truth about such nefarious doings as the Ukraine affair and the involvement of Trump and Guiliani and Guiliani's sneaky errand boys Igor and Lev in this, just couldn't find meaningful investigative information through the larger, watered down MSM.

It's a clear void and one that is purposely created imo.

I can go all day listening to radio news and never once hear anything of substance or that is seriously conveyed as concerning regards controversial Trump actions and abuses. Leading up to the impeachment hearings if all you listened to was national radio news, you would be asking yourself...what in the world is this hearing about? I haven't heard anything very bad about Trump on the radio.

My wife and I watched a documentary titled "Scandalous. The True Story Of The National Enquirer." a few nights ago.

This organization was basically exposed as a shakedown/extortion racket in many incidents of their doings going back to their Mafia connected roots in the 1950's

The latter part of the Mark Landsman documentary goes into Donald Trump's connection to this media company and especially when it was purchased and run by Trump's friend David Pecker.

Once again, the Trump involvement seems extremely disturbing.

And here again we can only find this information about Trump's involvement with this sleazy enterprise through an independent production outside of what we see in the MSM daily reporting.

Although I will say that CNN was apparently the financial backer of this production and they are mainstream. That is some what surprising and hopeful.

12 hours ago, Pete Mellor said:

Great to shoot this down in flames!

In Part II you write: Carmen also had her version of what happened between the president and Monroe after the famous 1962 rally in Madison Square Garden, where Monroe sang Happy Birthday to the president. As McGovern shows, this is also wrong since Monroe’s time before, during, and afterwards is all accounted for by neutral witnesses. She was escorted to the event by her former father-in-law and she kindly met with her New York fan club after the fund raiser. Randy Taraborrelli agrees that no such encounter happened. (McGovern, pp. 217-18)-

In James Reston's 'Second Best Thing' published just recently, his essay documents in text as well as Cecil Stoughton's photographs MM attending the private party after the Madison Sq. Garden event at 33 East Sixty Ninth St., (still in that dress.)  The party was attended by Jimmy Durante, Ella Fitzgerald, Shirley MacLaine, Harry Belafonte & Diahann Carroll among others.  Marilyn departed the party by limo at around 2:00 am.  Her driver took her to Brooklyn, where she dropped off Isadore Miller & went home alone to her thirteenth floor apartment at 444 East Fifty-Seventh St, arriving about 4:00 am.

Marilyn Monroe had a room on the Thirteenth floor?

Bad omen for MM there one could say. She died just 2 and 1/2 months later.

Otis Elevator company once stated that 85% of the high rise hotels they installed elevators in would not allow a thirteenth floor.

I have watched at least one interview of Parkland nurses who attended to the wounded Connally by the "Living History" 5th Floor Museum group.

One of the nurses ( a Mrs. Hall ) described seeing a blood tinged spray coming from Connelly's puncture lung each time he breathed. Fragments of the broken rib went through the lining of the lung enough to cause this puncture? She described Connally's lung as a collapsed lung.

I know it's WIKI...but if you type in John Connally you will see that they mention injury to " 3 " ribs. Obviously poor fact checking on their part.

Kennedy assassination[edit]

 

Governor Connally, seated in front of President Kennedy, minutes before the assassination

On November 22, 1963, Connally was seriously wounded while riding in President Kennedy's car at Dealey Plaza in Dallas when the president was assassinated. Connally, riding in the middle jump seat of the President's limousine in front of the President, recalled hearing the first shot which he immediately recognized as a rifle shot. He said he immediately feared an assassination attempt and turned to his right to look back to see the President. He looked over his right shoulder but did not catch the President out of the corner of his eye so he said he began to turn back to look to his left when he felt a forceful impact to his back. He stated to the Warren Commission: "I immediately, when I was hit, I said, 'Oh, no, no, no.' And then I said, 'My God, they are going to kill us all.'" He looked down and saw that his chest was covered with blood and thought he had been fatally shot. Then he heard the third and reportedly final shot, which sprayed blood and brain tissue over them.^[18] 

Connally suffered three broken ribs,

a punctured lung and a shattered wrist and had a bullet lodged in his leg. He underwent four hours of surgery after the shooting and recovered from his wounds.^[19] In testimony before the Warren Commission, Connally said: "There were either two or three people involved, or more, in this – or someone was shooting with an automatic rifle."^[20]

Wiki entry:

On 5/15/2020 at 9:41 PM, Kirk Gallaway said:

 

 

Trump and team's aggressive purging of inspector generals who investigate them is just another action so clearly abusive of authority and power it should be uniformly addressed in our media as such more than just "reported" as the following article relates.

This consistent unprecedented number purging of IGs who Trump deems as his enemies is another major Trump abuse of power issue you would think would draw an across the board condemnation editorially throughout 90% of our national media.

Front page headline editorials.

The huge majority of our citizenry can only feel as much concern about such abuse as their media informs them of it. If our main stream media doesn't portray it with the concern it deserves, then it just continues...imo.

Did Connally have one rib injured, or three?

And were the ribs slightly or more significantly injured?

Also, didn't a bullet ( the "one" that created all his injuries) go through Connally's right lung and collapse it as well before exiting near his right nipple?

And the missile left in his thigh, whether entire bullet or fragment, when was it removed?

And was the thigh bullet X-rayed while it was embedded and/or photographed upon removal? Was it weighed and measured and analysed?

I am sure a lot of the world really is doing a lot of prayer these days.

Could you imagine having JFK leading us during this unprecedented crisis?

Curious how the stock market is going up 700 points today, apparently just because of Trump's rosy prediction of a cure down the road?

A billion dollars thrown in on a non-science based gut feeling Trump proclamation? 

Are these investors that easily swayed?

I saw this in the San Francisco Chronicle ( pink ) Date Book/Movies section from their January 5-11 issue.

In the "ASK MICK LASALLE " column:

Dear Mick:

"I've always thought the the film "JFK" was one of the finest ever made. Did I miss the bus on this one?"  Robert from Petaluma.

Dear Robert:

" No, it's one of the great films of the 1990's. I've watched it about a half dozen time ---Always the 206-minute director's cut. The problem is that Lee Harvey Oswald has somehow come back in style. People actually want to believe he did it."

Any comment J. McBride, Jim Di.?

On 5/15/2020 at 9:41 PM, Kirk Gallaway said:

 

Joe I think your idea that the press, making a statement and just walking out on Trump for his mistreatment, and abdicating their responsibility as the press is a terrible idea. It would be like waving a white flag, when they've won so many skirmishes with Trump. 

Kirk. The press has won so many skirmishes with Trump?

If that is so, how has our national press lost so much credibility and respect in public polls since Trump has been elected?

Trump is "winning" the propaganda battle against them.

And I see a different scenario playing out if half the WH press corps walked out from the briefing room or Rose Garden immediately after Trump verbally insults one of their own again.

Let me explain using my lifetime experience common sense take.

I clearly remember encountering bullies in my younger years and even in adulthood.

The kind of guy who pushes someone from behind for no reason. Then laughs about it.

Someone who insults or name calls other smaller kids to their face just to humiliate them, especially in front of girls. Someone who taunts others. And even slaps someone on their head and dares them to do something about it. 

Trump continually treats members of the press corp and democrats in general this way. Taunting, insulting name calling in thousands of tweets or in person when they challenge him with questions he doesn't like.

I can remember when bullies I have seen finally encountered something that stopped their bullying to a noticeable degree.

It was when someone finally stood up against them in the Bully's own aggressive manner way. Sometimes it resulted in a physical fight. Even if it didn't end in a victory or a close draw and was maybe a losing one.

But just the courageous effort alone would often knock some humiliating public sentiment turning sense into the bully's head to bring them down off their deluded tough guy egos. They could feel the hate for them by those watching them hurt others.

And it could be even a woman who finally stands up and verbally confronts the bully. Telling them in front of others what they truly are...cowards.

I am not sure of the specific psychological reasons, but bullies usually only change when others finally stand up to them. And ESPECIALLY if this standing up is done in front of others.

Trump does and says outrageous and super aggressive things almost daily. Bully toned words and actions.

He has taunted and verbally abused the press and Congress for 3 and 1/2 years.

When and if the more mild mannered victims of Trump's bully taunting and verbal abuse ever do stand up to him in a way that is just as outrageous and aggressive as his doing ( a coordinated press briefing walk out )  I think much more of the public will respond in a positive way ( you obviously disagree ) just like those who witness someone finally confronting a bully and winning the skirmish as we have all seen in our real lives.

Trump's outrageous verbal abuse bullying will only stop when something like this occurs. Could you imagine the headlines ... "Press Corps Finally Let's Trump Know They've Had Enough!"

A walkout while the President is speaking would be humiliating to Trump. But the bully in him needs to be confronted like this imo.

But I doubt this is going to happen.

The corporate owners of the main media press are in Trump's 1% ideology camp and they would fire every WH press person who participated in a walkout. And the individual press corp members know this.

When Trump repeatedly insulted Jeb Bush on national TV in the 2016 primaries by calling him weak "You're weak Jeb...weak" and even insulted Bush even more by saying maybe Bush's mother should be running instead of him when Bush praised her as the strongest woman he knows... I really thought Bush should have challenged Trump back just as aggressively and boldly.

Something like "hey fella...how about saying that to my face again right here and now ... mano o mano ?" while walking aggressively away from his place on the podium towards Trump.

Bush's poll numbers would have jumped 10 or 20 points just for standing up to those extremely humiliating personal manhood insults of Trump towards him.

Instead Jeb Bush just kind of took it without any manly response, which actually did make him look weak.

Any WH press member who might walk out of a briefing right after a Trump verbal abuse insult and presented a written press release summary to the media explaining why they finally did something this bold, would be considered a hero to many imo. Yet, they would also be fired from a highly coveted career position they have worked their whole life to achieve. It's a sacrifice I don't think any of them will take.

 

 The real and most immediate test of Obama where he could have achieved some greatness involved standing up to the banks. Period! And he didn't.

I agree.

Another irresponsibly too long held back issue with Trump by the majority of our national media is his unprecedented bad treatment of the press.

Specifically members of the White House Press Corps.

It's worse than bad. It is clearly "abuse."

Intimidating, bullying verbal abuse.

I have watched a scowling Trump publicly and personally demean, denigrate, disparage, disrespect, insult with name calling and finger pointing, not just over half our nation's news organizations hundreds of times in his entire time in office but also dozens of individual WH press corp members when he is meeting them in person.

And on such a regular basis this unprecedented street thug bully verbal abuse is almost expected as a normal course of his behavior and manner, even as a President.

I propose that as many WH press corps people who are brave enough, should unite and stage a public walkout in a future press briefing when Trump once again thrust his ugly, mean and insulting name calling verbal abuse toward any of their fellow members, especially when this insulting bully abuse is initiated only because of a question proposed to Trump that he simply doesn't like.

Trump's personal name calling and insults directed at WH press corp members really is classic abuse. Verbal abuse.

And we shouldn't call it anything less.

If one's work place boss, co-worker, customer or even spouse, family member or any other person of authority or in any situation, regularly condescendingly and angrily pointed his or her finger at you while calling you insulting names like "you're a disgrace," " you're nasty," " you're a loser," " you're fake news," you're a failed reporter," "third rate reporter," "terrible reporter," "terrible person," "wise guy," "you ought be ashamed" and on and on and on ...

and in front of others, let alone the entire national viewing audience,

how much of this insulting verbal abuse would or should you take before finally confronting such abuse and demanding it end?

And the News Corporation heads "employers" of these WH press corp members should finally stand up and speak out to defend and protect them from this abuse.

Trump has destroyed the standard tradition ethical and mutually respectful protocols and framework of press corps briefings. Not the other way around.

To such an outrageous degree in my opinion that it's way overdue time now for the press corp victims of Trump's verbal abuse to have their "Network" film moment of righteous indignation and express their commonly shared "I'm as mad as hell and I am not going to take this anymore" sentiments back at him.

Trump loves to bully shock and intimate and insult and put down anyone who he insecurely feels is against him. 

A united walk out by the WH press corps the next time Trump publicly insults and abuses one of their own in a press briefing is probably the only way to stop his abusive and bullying treatment of them.

IMO It's been gut wrenching to see so many press members being humiliated, name called, cut off, bitch slapped really, for years by Trump and to see them and their employers take this abuse without so much as one meek defense editorial or demand for it to stop.

It's time for corporate ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN and others to finally stand up and defend their Trump abused employees.

The article I posted a link to above seems to be the first and only public call for the national media to finally report Trump's failure of leadership in it's full measure as well as other unprecedented abuses of his power including his abuse of members of the press.

The following article exposes and proposes what I have been posting for months.

The following news article is reporting what I have been posting for many months:

1 hour ago, Ron Ecker said:

Thanks. Trump in Allentown:

“So we have the best testing in the world.  It could be that testing is, frankly, overrated.  Maybe it is overrated.  But whatever they start yelling, “We want more.  We want more.”  You know, they always say, ‘We want more.  We want more’ — because they don’t want to give you credit.  Then we do more and they say, ‘We want more.’….

“And don’t forget: We have more cases than anybody in the world.  But why?  Because we do more testing.  When you test, you have a case.  When you test, you find something is wrong with people.  If we didn’t do any testing, we would have very few cases.  They don’t want to write that.  It’s common sense.  So we test much more many, many times."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-owens-minor-inc-distribution-center-allentown-pa/

Trump's public comments like those above are so beyond rational anymore...they are crazy!

The man is not right mentally.

Our main stream media reports this almost daily insanity in a few news blurbs, but then moves on.

Trump's irrational craziness should be front page news constantly. Newspapers and news organizations across the nation should be SHOUTING for his resignation.

On 5/15/2020 at 12:36 AM, Joseph McBride said:

"Does this mean I have to sell my goddam Halliburton stock?" -- LBJ on the phone to his

tax lawyer, Waddy Bullion of Houston, at 1 p.m. November 22 in Parkland Hospital. He didn't.

He kept it, while Bullion supervised his "blind trust" (talking frequently with

LBJ on a phone in the Oval Office), and LBJ's fortune kept growing as he expanded the war, which greatly

benefited Halliburton. Halliburton also played a major role in bringing you the Iraq

War thanks to former CEO Dick Cheney.

That is just sickening about LBJ. 

Monstrous actually.

1:pm right inside the hospital?

While JFK's obliterated lifeless body is still on the ER table and blood spattered Jackie Kennedy is in the deepest depths of nightmarish despair, both just a few rooms away?

If true, it proves LBJ was no more concerned about JFK's slaughter as he was worried how it may have threatened his personal wealth!

Makes me believe even more that LBJ knew ahead of time of JFK's killing and was morally corrupt enough to let it happen.

What about Pepsi and all the other companies who made huge profits off of cheap labor Cuban sugar?

Trump's quote to the world via a July 2016 nationally broadcast speech to the press:

"Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump told a roomful of TV cameras and reporters (including this fact-checker). "I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Let’s see if that happens."

How this mind blowing outrageous statement by Trump didn't create a front page, media fire storm furor of such magnitude his campaign should have been over right then and there, is one of those totally illogical moments in national media political coverage history that will always be a disturbing mystery to me.

How and why the national media let Trump get away with this was simply crazy.

If Hillary Clinton had said this same quote ( or Obama) with Trump as the intended target, media news reporting computer systems here and abroad would have shut down from the outrage shock overload!

And how hard is it to document organized crime groups purchasing Trump Condos here and in Panama ( where Trump's family claimed only their name was on the tower but they received over 14 million for this) where they often never occupied these and eventually "sold them" which conveniently provided secondary cover for money laundering?

And how hard would it be to go through the records of Trump's hotels and see large blocks of room bookings and rentals at the same time ( Saudi's? ) and again, where nobody actually stays in the rooms?

If I am on a Trump corruption case jury and am presented with these facts and hundreds of other similar sleazy dealings by Trump over decades...I would be casting my guilty vote the second I sat down to do so.

One would be forced to do the same if they were in their right and law respecting mind.

Why is there even a debate regards Trump's life long trail of corruption?