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Some thoughts.
Based on what we know of Lee Oswald, he was very unsatisfied with most of the jobs he found upon returning back to the states and especially in 1963.
The map photography related job seemed to be his favorite. The metal fabricating one the physically hardest and dirtiest.
He hated his coffee machine cleaning job at Reily's Coffee and was so neglectful in his duties there they fired him.
Lee goes on unemployment for a time in New Orleans. This frees him to have fun doing political activities like passing out leaflets downtown. This was also a paid job according to New Orleans attorney Dean Andrews who testified this is what Oswald told him when Andrews confronted Lee ( for an unpaid legal fee debt ) while he was passing out his fliers.
Lee moves to Oak Cliff. He gets the job at the TXSBD.
The job is kind of mindless in it's simple book order separating tasks. It pays minimum wage. Lee's fellow workmates aren't exactly the most intellectually stimulating conversationalists and Lee simply reads newspapers on his breaks versus shooting the bull with the guys.
It's reasonable Oswald would have left this mindless, lowest paying, uninteresting co-worker job in a minute if something better came about.
However, the ride sharing situation with Wesley Frazier was a true lucky bonus for Oswald. With Frazier living just a block away from Ruth Paine, Lee had a ride right to Ruth's house after work on Friday! And a ride back to work on Monday morning. And both free of charge!
Surely this lucky ride share convenience helped make the TXSBD job a little more palatable for Lee.
And then, the time comes for Lee to throw everything in his life away.
Lee goes on a suicide and family ruining mission to use his job at the TXSBD as a JFK killing location. The JFK limo motorcade passing right in front of his workplace was just too lucky an opportunity to pass up for his chance to be a changer of history and hopefully be looked upon as a heroic destroyer of one of the great evils afflicting mankind ... the enslavement of the working class by the ruling wealthy elite.
However, Lee didn't want to be a "dead" martyr. He wanted to be a living one. Hence his desperate attempt to avoid being shot and killed after his monumentally world changing act.
His incredible happenstance luck at getting the perfect location job with the perfect isolated shooting perch layout and at the perfect JFK arriving time right down from his perch window was just too much luck to not take advantage of in fulfilling his martyr destiny.
Thank you RP. Thank you Wesley Frazier. Thank you JFK Dallas motorcade planners. Thank you "Assignment Oswald" agent James Hosty for taking your lunch break at a diner during the motorcade. Thank you D.H. BYRD.
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32 minutes ago, Matt Allison said:
There were likely more Nazis invading the U.S. Capitol on 1/6 than there are in the entirety of Ukraine.
Bingo!
Bravo!
Right On!
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OUTRAGEOUS!
Chief Justice Roberts Exposes SCOTUS's outrageous political bias!
This Trump/Republican party biased and defending Supreme Court majority should be impeached!
OUTRAGEOUS! Delaying is the same as denying.
To these Trump lover justices Trump's interests are more important than the rest of the country!
Every democracy loving and respecting journalist, jurist and other influential position American should condemn this despicable and even dangerous Trump defending SCOTUS bias to the highest outrage degree!
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5 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said:
There you go!
The worst person to take over Twitter...Maga Mush Minded Elon Musk!
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Anyone here a former resident of...CAMP LEJEUNE?
If so I URGENTLY BEG YOU to link up to www. Camp LeJeune Survivor, Victim Relief.com!
Like J.J. Walker says in his own infomercial..."NOOOWWW!"
I've never seen such a massive inundation of all our media airwaves as this CAMP LEJEUNE victim finding advertising campaign.
Every 15 minutes every TV station I have on blares out this "are you a former Camp Lejeune resident?" message.
And the same goes for radio advertising and the internet as well!
I wake up at all hours of the night half asleep with that question repeating in my mind!
Camp LeJeune...Camp LeJeune ... Camp LeJeune ... contact us NOOOWWW!
If the Democrats had initiated a vote encouragement campaign 1/5th the energy of this Camp LeJeune victim search one...they would win these mid-terms imo.
There is a real and valuable lesson here.
And that is...if the Democrats REALLY WANTED TO WIN ELECTIONS...they could do so if they would only study the CAMP LEJEUNE media saturation project and get off the dime and do the same!
These work!
There is definitely truth to the mass broadcasting repetition of suggestive behavior in it's ability to make such messages a part of your daily life thoughts and even lexicon.
I wouldn't be surprised to learn of many girls being born now and given the first name "Le Jeune!"
Or hot selling caps and T-shirts with the message ... " CAMP LEJEUNE VETERAN!"
Republican party campaign slogan sound bites and bumper stickers ... "Don't Let The Democrats Camp LeJeune you!"
Trump deriding his enemies... "I think they drank the water at Cam LeJeune."
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40 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:
TRUTH COPS
Leaked Documents Outline DHS’s Plans to Police Disinformation
The Intercept
THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY is quietly broadening its efforts to curb speech it considers dangerous, an investigation by The Intercept has found. Years of internal DHS memos, emails, and documents — obtained via leaks and an ongoing lawsuit, as well as public documents — illustrate an expansive effort by the agency to influence tech platforms.
The work, much of which remains unknown to the American public, came into clearer view earlier this year when DHS announced a new “Disinformation Governance Board”: a panel designed to police misinformation (false information spread unintentionally), disinformation (false information spread intentionally), and malinformation (factual information shared, typically out of context, with harmful intent) that allegedly threatens U.S. interests. While the board was widely ridiculed, immediately scaled back, and then shut down within a few months, other initiatives are underway as DHS pivots to monitoring social media now that its original mandate — the war on terror — has been wound down.
Behind closed doors, and through pressure on private platforms, the U.S. government has used its power to try to shape online discourse. According to meeting minutes and other records appended to a lawsuit filed by Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt, a Republican who is also running for Senate, discussions have ranged from the scale and scope of government intervention in online discourse to the mechanics of streamlining takedown requests for false or intentionally misleading information.
Key Takeaways
Though DHS shuttered its controversial Disinformation Governance Board, a strategic document reveals the underlying work is ongoing.
DHS plans to target inaccurate information on “the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic and the efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines, racial justice, U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the nature of U.S. support to Ukraine.”
Facebook created a special portal for DHS and government partners to report disinformation directly.
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The Ministry of Truth?
And was talk about the COVID-19 origins dangerous to US interests?
How about talk about the Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan wars?
Oh, sure, this will be packaged as a good idea, a way to repress insurrectionists or whatever.
But what starts as a goody-goody program turns into politics, then turns into a business, and then turns into a racket.
Or rank repression.
True.
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I think Ruth became protective of Marina the more she was involved with her and Lee over a period of many months and even more so after having a vulnerable and pregnancy health neglected Marina move in with her in her home. Maybe even a little possessive?
Ruth was clearly smitten with Marina the minute she met her.
Marina was an interesting person especially to someone like Ruth who was drawn to the Russian culture to the point of learning it's language to a serious degree.
So, here she meets a bright and mesmerizing blue eyed beauty young Russian girl with a fascinating story of Russian upbringing, meeting and marrying an odd duck American enigma character, then emigrating here to the states and now living in a financially and pregnancy stressed life situation with a controlling, boorish, lowest income earning husband who Ruth surely feels is a bad catch for such an attractive full of promise young woman.
Obviously Ruth is intrigued with Marina. Like so many others in the Dallas White Russian community. Marina's interesting background, youthful physical beauty and intelligence made it easier for many of them to want to get to know her and try to help her in her difficult life with Lee whom it seemed was disliked immediately by these same people, outside of George DeMohrenschildt who in his own quirky way found Lee to be interesting enough to at least talk to.
The closer Ruth became to Marina I believe the more she disliked and eventually despised Lee.
I believe she saw Lee's 11,22,1963 arrest and certain life long incarceration ending fate as a relief for Marina. The strange and selfish political activities, boorish, mistreating, poorly providing cad is gone!
I also think Ruth assumed that after Lee was out of Marina's life, Marina would continue to depend on and stay with her and Ruth could continue their close relationship which Ruth obviously enjoyed and found fulfilling.
I think Ruth was surprised at the immediate separation of Marina from her and which Marina made permanent of her own volition. I think Ruth was hurt that Marina would do this after everything Ruth had done for her and which also suggested that Marina probably didn't like her as much as Ruth thought she did.
And not even Ruth could have foreseen the huge amounts of money sent to Marina by sympathetic persons all across the country. So much, Marina was suddenly independently financially secure. In today's dollars estimates range up to half a million dollars!
I have seen young women in need ( especially with babies ) who married other young men who were obviously incapable of supporting them and sometimes even mistreated them.
When people step in to help these young mothers and see that their young husbands are like this, my observation is they often eventually try to steer these young mothers away from these ill-equipped young fathers. Especially if they are abusive to boot.
Ruth certainly was never going to be Lee Oswald's biggest defender and supporter especially after his arrest for the JFK killing.
To what extent is reasonably debatable.
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Quotenald Trump speaks at a rally on October 22, 2022, in Robstown, Texas.
Brandon Bell/Getty Images
CNN —Donald Trump asked the Supreme Court on Monday to stop the turning over of his tax returns to a House committee, the latest in a series of attempts by the former President to keep that information from going public.
Trump’s latest gambit came days after a federal appeals court declined to hold up the release of his tax returns to the Democratic-controlled House Ways and Means Committee.
“No Congress has ever wielded its legislative powers to demand a President’s tax returns,” Trump said in his emergency request to the Supreme Court.
Trump broke with recent tradition for presidents and presidential candidates by refusing to release his past tax records, insisting that he was under audit and therefore could not release the returns. He can release them even while he’s under audit. He has also repeatedly insisted that tax returns provide little financial information. (This is also not true.)
Trump’s repeated attempts to keep his tax returns private – over years – begs the simple question: Why? And there are several potential reasons that jump to mind:
1) Trump may not be as rich as he says he is. Not long after Trump launched his presidential campaign in 2015, he said he was worth upwards of $10 billion. Forbes estimated his net worth was less than half that that year. Trump appears to use outlandishly elevated claims of his wealth as proof positive he is smarter (and better) than most people. It’s uniquely possible that a release of his tax returns would take the air out of a balloon that Trump has been blowing up for much of his adult life.
2) He may not pay (or hasn’t paid) his fair share of taxes, despite his claims that he pays “a lot.” We know, thanks to reporting from The New York Times, that Trump paid zero federal taxes in 11 of the 18 years of returns that the publication was able to obtain. And even in 2017, his first year as president, Trump paid just $750 in federal taxes – a paltry sum for someone as wealthy as he is. The Times estimated that “Trump has paid about $400 million less in combined federal income taxes than a very wealthy person who paid the average for that group each year.”
3) The $73 million refund. We learned from the Times’ reporting that Trump applied for a $72.9 million tax refund in 2010. (He claimed large losses that were widely attributed at the time to the decline of his Atlantic City casinos.) The Internal Revenue Service started its audit of the refund in 2011, which was still ongoing as of 2020. It’s uniquely possible that Trump simply doesn’t want to have the refund issue brought back up, for fear he might be on the hook for the amount.
4) Trump may have loans with foreign countries or individuals. We know, via congressional testimony from former Trump confidante Michael Cohen, that the former president was deeply involved in the potential construction of Trump Tower Moscow. And that Cohen lied about that involvement (and how long it stretched) to protect Trump. Donald Trump Jr. reportedly said at a 2008 real estate conference: “In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. Say, in Dubai, and certainly with our project in SoHo, and anywhere in New York. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”
5) He might not donate much (or anything) to charity. Trump long used his charitable organization to feather his own nest and collect political chits rather than for any philanthropic purposes. (Trump shut down the charity in 2018.) It’s not at all clear how generous (if at all) Trump has been to other charities over the past few decades. While there is no requirement for wealthy individuals to make large charitable donations, many do. And so, it would be a decidedly bad look for Trump if it looked like his repeated claims of largesse donated to charity wound up being false.
Whatever the reason – or reasons – it’s been clear for the last seven years that Trump is absolutely dead set on keeping his returns private. Which makes me wonder what he is hiding – still.
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1 hour ago, Gene Kelly said:
Matt
I respect your opinion, but simply disagree. Nor do I think we can ever answer how CIA (alone) controlled the motorcade route. The assassination wasn't necessarily orchestrated by a single group, and CIA would be expected to expertly cover its tracks (as history has proven) using cutouts, 3rd parties and infiltrated organizations such as the DPD.
I also believe that there was Secret Service complicity at some level, and the slow hairpin turn at Elm and Houston was an integral part of the plot ... similar to the assassination attempts made on Charles de Gaulle a year earlier. In "The Devil's Chessboard", David Talbot wrote that John Kennedy had learned of Allen Dulles’s involvement in plotting to overthrow de Gaulle and assured the French of his support while warning them:
“The CIA is such a vast and poorly controlled machine that the most unlikely maneuvers might be true.”
The basic decision on the November trip to Texas was made at a meeting of President Kennedy, Vice President Johnson and Governor Connally on June 5, 1963, at the Cortez Hotel in El Paso, Tex. In September, the White House decided to permit further visits by the President and extended the trip to run from the afternoon of November 21 through the evening of Friday, November 22 (see JFK Records Collection, Chap. 2, "Planning the Texas Trip"). When Governor Connally called at the White House on October 4th to discuss the details of the visit, it was agreed that the planning of events in Texas would be left largely to the Governor. (Oswald ''s job inquiry and interview occurred on October 14-15). The motorcade route became the responsibility of Secret Service Special Agent Winston Lawson, a member of the White House detail who acted as the advance agent. He was informed that 45 minutes had been allotted for a motorcade procession from Love Field to the luncheon site; the last portion of the journey, where the motorcade would pass through the northwest corner of Houston and Elm Streets, was only 5 minutes from the Trade Mart.
It was Dealey Plaza that was pre-selected for the killing zone, and others have already addressed how the Trade Mart speech location assured that the motorcade would pass through the Plaza. The TSBD location itself wasn't that critical (imho) - the fatal shots actually came from elsewhere (and from several locations) - it is simply where the sniper's nest and patsy were staged. Perhaps a patsy could've been staged in the Dal-Tex and Annex buildings, the Dallas County Records Building, or the County Courthouse. The key to staging Oswald in that particular building was that the Book Depository was owned by D. H. Byrd and inhabited by individuals (Truly, Shelley, et al) associated with the plotters. I find it no "coincidence" that Byrd co-founded the Civil Air Patrol (which David Ferrie and Oswald belonged to), was a member of the Dallas Petroleum Club, and was close to Jack Crichton.
The assassination was a team effort.
Gene
BUMP.
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So, the matter of the DCM and UM sitting down next to each other on the grassy knoll border curb close enough to hold hands and hug ( lots of open room on that curb ) seconds after the shootings means nothing?
Some family members and couples dropped down next to each other during and after the shootings.
However, the DCM and UM were supposedly not even friends and were many feet apart "before" the shootings.
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4 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:
The guy who attacked Paul Pelosi had zip ties and was shouting, "Where's Nancy?"
The attackers on January 6th had zip ties and were shouting, "Where's Nancy?"
Nuff said.
Steve Thomas
Bravo, Bingo, Right On Steve!
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The whole umbrella man, DCM story warrants logical suspicion.
Their location position ( right next to JFK's limo at the split second he is first shot ) combined with their mutual odd actions right before, during and after the shooting, and then their disappearing from identification or questioning for so many years ( the DCM forever ) begs such.
I'm going to look for those pics that show the DCM walking around on the knoll after the shooting and that seem to show something unusually larger shaped protruding from some back part of his waist area. Is it a walkie talkie?
Regards the JFK limo stop debate:
If Greer slowed the limo to just 2 to 3 mph just before the JFK head shot ( which to curb side bystanders would look like an almost stop ) and actually did this by letting up on the accelerator or touching even lightly the brake petal for a second which would explain the brake lights in back illuminating for that brief second, what is the debate? Stop versus almost stopped?
It was this slowdown ( from 11 mph to 2 or 3 ) that enabled Clint Hill to leap off the SS car and cover the several feet to the back of JFK's limo just in time before Greer shot away.
Hill had to run faster than the SS car and JFK's limo to do so. If the limo and SS car didn't slow down from 11 mph, wing tip shoe wearing Hill wasn't running at 15 to 20 mph.
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Check the Z film clip link below.
Just a micro-second before JFK is hit in the head, you can see the limo almost come to a stop...then BAM!
You can also clearly see driver Bill Greer's head and shoulders turned maybe 150% behind him on his right side with Greer looking right at JFK just as the head shot hits.
How can there be any debate over this easily seen Greer head turn back to see JFK right at the time of the head shot? It's right there in front of one's eyes!
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15 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:
Honesty and integrity ... Donald Trump style.
If the following Trump prevarication trash talk doesn't make you sick...what would? And the shameless arrogance!
If anyone here wants to see what Donald Trump is really like in a deposition, click on the link above. Trump defenders won't.
They always hope the awful truth about Trump will just fade away with public apathy. And usually...it does.
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Honesty and integrity ... Donald Trump style.
If the following Trump prevarication trash talk doesn't make you sick...what would? And the shameless arrogance!
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24 minutes ago, Gene Kelly said:
The article in the March 2011 issue of The Dealey Plaza Echo "A Last Wild Ride for George de Mohrenschildt" by Nancy Wertz Weiford is very interesting. I didn't appreciate how strained the relationship between George and Jeannie D. had become, nor the depth of personal problems.
Jeanie D. seemed intriguing to me. Her parents, childhood and emigration to America background and dogged climbing the social ladder achievements. A strong willed, confident and practical woman.
She several times mentioned her husband George's quirky sense of humor social behavior, which she knew some viewed as immature. Wearing a Hawaiian shirt to a formal function? Cracking off topic quips and jokes?
Her and George's machete hacking trek through the Mexican and lower central American jungles was very odd though. Not a typical, practical vacation choice. And included in that silly safari was an odd stop over at a small Mexican airport to meet some official from Russia?
Just a coincidental social call?
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20 minutes ago, Cory Santos said:
Because Joe it was a distraction. That is all it was. So no one would notice or watch DCM who actually was doing something.
Their close proximity to each other, especially in their theater seat close curb sitting, seconds after the shooting just adds to the suspicion.
Have you seen the photos of the DCM when he begins his grassy knoll walkabout after the shooting? With something clearly protruding from his back side pocket or belt area? At one point under his waist cut jacket?
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Witt's umbrella pumping and the umbrella itself instantly became a dark symbol of Judas like ominous suspicion as soon as film of this became public.
You see this black umbrella being opened and weirdly raised up and down just as JFK is taking bullets feet in front of this strange action.
Like one of the Freudian symbolic dream scenes in the Hitchcock film "Spellbound."
The black umbrella pumping, shots ringing out, screaming chaos... surreal ...but real!
Witt must have been immediately aware of the widespread suspicion of him and his incongruously odd umbrella actions just as JFK is being slaughtered in front of him that day.
He must have been aware that his dark umbrella was a sought after circumstantial item that the authorities would want to examine.
If Witt and his umbrella actions were totally innocent of any nefarious intent, why not volunteer a statement to the authorities? Why hide himself and his umbrella for years like he did?
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2 hours ago, Michael Griffith said:
Robert MacNeil (of the MacNeil-Lehrer News Hour): "the president's driver slammed on the brakes."
Mrs. Earle Cabell: The motorcade "stopped dead still."
William Newman: "When I say 'stopped' I mean . . . like they hit the brakes."
At least 40 witnesses, from all over the plaza, said the limo either stopped or visibly slowed. Yet, in the Zapruder film the limo maintains a steady speed throughout the shooting.
A driver of a massive tank of a limo like JFK's does not turn his head 180 degrees behind him to directly watch JFK's head explode without at least letting up on the gas.
Of course the limo slowed almost to a stop. You can see this by watching the Zapruder film and seeing the landscape in the background. It's horizontal movement slows.
Just after the limo passes in front of Jean Hill in her long red coat and Mary Moorman in her long black coat you see this slowing.
And just as the next group of lawn bystanders comes into view the limo accelerates rapidly.
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Marjorie Taylor Greene admits to calling for Nancy Pelosi
Marjorie Taylor Greene takes the stand in Georgia. (C-SPAN) Georgia representative Marjorie Taylor Greene “does not recall” a concerning amount about her actions surrounding the C
Perfect VP pick for Trump. They both feel the exact same way about Nancy Pelosi.
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On 10/28/2022 at 3:59 PM, Tom Gram said:
Ruth’s own father told the FBI words to the effect that the only way in hell Ruth would ever allow Marina to stay with her was if she had an extreme interest in her. Ruth corroborated this by saying that she wanted Marina to stay with her because she found her interesting and wanted to learn Russian from a native speaker.
I don’t think kindness had anything to do with it.
I also think Marina's youthful radiating blue eyes physical beauty made such an offer more attractive for Ruth.
If Marina looked like a typical big raw boned, weather beaten, farm overalls wearing, plow pushing Russian woman we used to see on 1950's and 60's propaganda posters...Ruth may have had a "well...I, uh..." hesitation moment imo.
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The man got his Nancy Pelosi rage from one source only. And it wasn't from his merry band of nudist pranksters.
The one single Nancy Pelosi hate obsessed mouthpiece who has preached the evils of Nancy Pelosi for years on the national stage...DJT!
We all know DJT is the one and only inspiration for this Paul Pelosi/Nancy Pelosi attacker.
It's as obvious as thrown ketchup!
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16 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:
Exactly W.
But do you notice particularly how spooky the white male obsession is with Pelosi? Probably white male hatred toward powerful women because they couldn't get laid, in this case even in a nudist colony!.
It seems like the same dynamic as the guy in Highland Park, and for some reason the liberal press is going to do their PC watering down. Nudist hippy, makes, hemp jewelry, best man at Gay wedding. Is this LHO all over again! And downplay the Maga right wing big lie, wacko element, and just call him a disturbed individual, as if the current political mass dumbing down hysteria isn't happening.Trump's worshipping base.
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2 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:
The wealthiest right wing corporate Republicans since the 80's initiated and implemented a massive national radio propaganda machine ( Fox news is the T.V. medium counterpart ) that consisted of a cabal of 15 or 20 anger inciting radio talk personalities demonizing the Democrats and liberals to 50 million American listeners daily 24/7.
And it's been going strong now for almost 40 years!
Rush Limbaugh (The Godfather Of Rage Radio) was the revered icon of this liberal/democrat demonizing, fear and anger rousing propaganda team machine.
Other copycat Capos have included Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Mark Levine, Michael Savage, Laura Ingraham, Clyde Lewis, Dennis Prager, Alex Jones, etc. etc. even stints by G. Gordon Liddy and Oliver North!
And throw in the huge audience late night radio talk show Coast To Coast AM with their regular airing of inflammatory liberal bashing right wing commentary by Jerome Corsi, Roger Stone and the forementioned Alex Jones.
And include national radio and TV evangelicals like Jerry Falwell, Pat Roberston, etc. always none too subtly guiding their millions of listening folks to vote for the Republicans to save humanity from the devil worshipping liberal Democrats.
This liberal/democrat demonizing national radio public airwaves brainwashing ( enhanced by Fox TV ) has been going on for decades. It is now a generational agenda movement. In major ways these two massive audience media propaganda machines have constituted the societal conscious birth of national fear, anger and rage division.
Imo anyway.
John Tunheim Interview
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted · Edited by Joe Bauer
Judge Tunheim from Minnesota oversaw a series of federal level product liability trials back in 2006 to 2007 or 08.
The Johnson & Johnson drug company was being sued be many hundreds of individuals who claimed they were severely injured by their antibiotic drug Levaquin.
Several large law firms all across the country handled many individual cases each.
I was a client of one of those law firms.
The first trial decided by jury found Johnson & Johnson liable and awarded the injured victim quite a large amount of damages.
From there, everything fell apart for the rest of trials and injured parties.
Every jury after the first trial ( six in all ) found Johnson & Johnson not liable for the physical injury damages to those who were prescribed and took this drug Levaquin. Even though they acknowledged this drug caused their injuries!
It's a long story.
Soon after the last of the sixth trial ... my law firm and all the others dropped out of the law-suit effort after all these other juries decided in favor of Johnson & Johnson over injured parties who took this drug and claimed it severely injured them.
Basically, there were members of every jury who decided the claimants should have known of the injury potential of Levaquin as it was stated in their information packets accompanying the drug bottles.
However, in my case ( and in thousands of others ) we were all just prescribed and administered this drug in ER situations without any ability to see and even know of these warning information papers.
I was given 4 doses of Levaquin in a 6 to 7 hour time period after fainting from electrolyte imbalance brought on by a body flu and being dehydrated from this. I had hit the floor head on with concussion and smashed nose and mouth head injuries and was so out of it when I went to our local hospital at night I couldn't even talk or think straight.
The ER doctor ordered the Levaquin pills ( 2 at a time ) because ( he said) he saw beginning symptoms of bronchitis.
I was discharged from our hospital right around 12:pm because the hospital was full ( Christmas night I believe ) and against my pleading begging to not be discharged as I had so many traumatic head injuries along with being incredibly weak from the flu and dehydration as well!
Sorry, hit the road Jack!
3 to 4 minutes after my wife drove me away from the ER and less than 10 minutes after being given my first two Levaquin pills, I fainted in my wife's car. I was revived back at the hospital. They said it was probably a vasovagal episode.
I found out later by calling the Johnson & Johnson information hot line that they felt I should not have been prescribed two Levaquin tablets so soon after being diagnosed with an electrolyte imbalance.
My system was just too weakened by the electrolyte imbalance to handle such a powerful drug.
Levaquin ( same as Cipro and in a class of antibiotics called "fluoroquinolones" ) was known as a very powerful new drug. Too powerful for many. Doctors called it ..."The Big Gun" of antibiotics.
Some have said the administration of Cipro to Gulf War personnel because of the anthrax scare was the cause of the Gulf War syndrome...with serious adverse reactions to thousands.
Many doctors will not prescribe Levaquin or Cipro at all anymore after years of severe injuries being reported by thousands of patients administered this.