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Hoffa, Giancanna, Roselli all killed "Mafia" style.
You don't hit the higher ups in that hierarchy without the approval of the other highest ups.
What other highest Dons were not hit and left to live and die natural deaths?
Trafficante, Marcello, Lansky, Provenzano, Bufalino ... et al.
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Is the Geraldine Reid story absolutely debunked?
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3 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:
No doubt. The plutocrats control the U.S. government. And the problem has been worsened by the Citizens United SCOTUS ruling that has opened the floodgates for "dark money" funding of elections.
The progressive social democracies of Western Europe have been able to maintain a more functional balance of power between corporate capitalists and the labor movement.
In the U.S., the labor movement has been gradually destroyed, and the masses have been indoctrinated by years of capitalist propaganda to anathematize social democracy as "socialism."
So true.
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2 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:
You are correct. Thanks for setting me straight. I needed this.
Just read Ian Grigg's article in full.
I now know much more about Kay Olsen.
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On 10/15/2022 at 12:22 PM, Larry Hancock said:
Joe, I'm afraid you are a bit off on both Kathy and Olsen - its a shame that some of the great research done over the years seems to fade into the past. I suggest you check out Ian Grigg's article for the actual details:
http://massinjustice.org/Kennedy 4 22 Search Stripper Kathy K.pdf
You are correct. Thanks for setting me straight. I needed this.
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2 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:
https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1586026106561306625
NEW: Pelosi assailant shouted "where is Nancy" before the attack, a source briefed on the attack on her husband Paul Pelosi tells CNN's
OMG
Steve Thomas
Another Trump enraged nut doing his thing against Trump's enemies.
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23 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:
The Repubs will use this violent assault incident to proclaim their usual Dem attack rhetoric...
What do you expect in a Democratic party controlled American big city?
Out of control violent crime. Disrespecting the police, etc.
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Oswald's escape run turn off into the 2nd floor lunch room has always intrigued me.
If it was a split-second impulse evasion and location alibi maneuver it was remarkably quick-on-one's-feet clever.
And he even enhanced it's diversion effect by buying a machine dispensed Dr. Pepper soda pop and sipping this as big burly DPD officer Marion Baker burst in wide-eyed with aimed revolver yelling..."DO YOU KNOW THIS MAN?"
Oswald's calmness from that point to his casual descent down to the first floor and walking around in the front lobby ( even guiding news journalist Robert McNeil to a wall phone) is again, so thoroughly pronounced and well acted it's surreally confounding.
The man supposedly just blew the President of the United States head off!
In front of hundreds of bystanders and dozens of hugely armed security forces who he knew were seconds away from blowing him away!
One would think that anyone committing such a mind blowing irrational violent and own life risking act like that would act just as irrationally and desperately in running away to escape from his feared fate of being ripped apart by his captors.
Yet, Oswald was as cool, calm and collected in his life and death escape run as a highly trained and practiced professional hit man, or someone on sedatives like valium?
When LBJ protege Malcolm Wallace blew away Austin Texas Pitch And Putt golf course owner John Douglas Kinser in broad daylight in front of eye witnesses he took off so desperately and thoughtlessly he was easily spotted and caught within minutes. He was drunk. He had to liquor himself up to do something so crazy like cold blooded murder.
Oswald supposedly carried out a million times more dangerous, risky and important murder, again in broad daylight and with hundreds of eye witnesses, and he didn't need to be liquored up. He then skips away, stops to refresh himself with a cool Doctor Pepper soda pop...and then casually walks away from that and the 1st floor lobby scene to catch a bus and then after the bus is stalled in traffic, he Southern Gentlemanly lets a damsel in destress have the first cab he hails and then takes a second one home? And even tells the driver to keep the nickel change!
Oswald is just too cool in the entire story here.
He was also too cool when he was jumped and slapped around by hot headed shouting Carlos Bringuier and his boys during his New Orleans leaflet passing in August. Too cool in his dust up incident New Orleans radio and TV appearances as well.
Oswald just doesn't fit the usual mental state model of extreme political activists and crazed nut murderers.
To a degree that just adds to the suspicious mystery of it all. He's so cool he seems professionally trained imo.
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36 minutes ago, Paul Brancato said:
Gene - I’m beginning to wonder about Shelley. First there is the sighting of him or a lookalike in New Orleans with Oswald. Then there are the inconsistencies in his supposed post assassination movements and statements. I think it’s time to ponder whether Shelley helped place Oswald in the TSBD. That wouldn’t be hard to imagine. Frazier could have been put to the task by Shelley, and if that actually happened it’s doubtful that Frazier would ever mention it. All that has to be assumed in order to make this believable is prior associations with Oswald, as in New Orleans, and some kind of CIA link with Shelley, for which there is suggestive evidence.
Wonder if Shelley might have had a hand in watching the elevators during JFK's limo drive by or someone cutting off the power to them?
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Witt remained anonymous for how many years! And he was able to do so? And why do so?
Not one person who may have known Witt or been a relative of him back in 1963 ever came forward to the authorities or the media ( even anonymously? ) to let them know who this guy was?
You'd think human nature would incline "someone" to have done so.
Why didn't the DPD or feds ask the public to come forward in IDing the Umbrella Man and the tall negro man who sat just two to three feet next to the Umbrella Man seconds after JFK was shot?
And the same questions regards the tall dark black man. He never came forward, ever? And not one person who ever knew him did either?
You'd think Witt would have shared his incredibly shocking close up eye witnessing of JFK's murder story ( one of the most important historical events ever ) with "someone" all those years.
Maybe pulled out his kept umbrella and after a few shots of Johnny Walker Red pumped it up and down like he did as JFK's head was being blown apart just feet away from him.
It seems almost every bystander within feet of the head shot scene was ID' right away. The Newmans, Mary Moorman, Jean Hill, Charles Brehm, Zapruder, Sitzman, even some of the farther away eyewitnesses like the railroad men, James Tague and even Lee Bowers!
The Babushka woman has never been identified nor come forward.
She's another enigma in that no one has ever come forward to ID her as well. Maybe she really was the young big boned Ruby girl, Beverly Oliver.
The immediate actions of the tall black man seconds after JFK was hit are ominously curious. First he sits down on the lawn curb so close to the Umbrella Man they could have held hands.
Then he gets up and walks to and fro. Pictures of him doing this are several. There is a clear view of something protruding from his back side pants belt and pocket area. Protruding much more than just a wallet. What could that big object back there be?
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On 10/27/2022 at 8:05 PM, Tom Gram said:
Oswald could’ve been placed in the TSBD in advance just in case, and the other plots could have been arranged in the same way.
Absolutely.
Planning a JFK visit with a motorcade through downtown Dallas, including through Dealey Plaza, was certainly thought of before just two months prior to 11,22,1963.
Hindsight yes, but Dealey Plaza should have been cleared of crowds and open windows for the motorcade. Those two 90% turns there ( or one and another long 134% turn) plus the long grassy knoll hiding scene and the overpass were obvious reasons for this. And the crowd there was relatively small compared to main street and not worth all those logistical security risks.
But maybe TXSBD owner D.H. Byrd insisted on his building employees getting a "byrds" eye view of JFK and Jackie?
Sylvia Odio fainted when she first saw TV news video of Lee Harvey Oswald as the one and only suspect in the JFK killing.
She recalled Leopoldo telling her that this loco American Leon told Leopoldo that the Cubans didn't have any guts. They should have gone after JFK for his Bay Of Pigs abandonment. Leopoldo told Ms. Odio this at the very end of September 1963.
Before Oswald got the TXSBD job.
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4 hours ago, Mark Knight said:
Actually, as I figure it, the turn from Houston to Elm was a 135-degree angle, changing the direction of travel of the limo from north to southwest, more or less.
MUCH more difficult for the driver to execute than a simple 90-degree angle.
EXACTLY.
90% turns were to be avoided under SS motorcade security protocols.
And this one was 135-derees?
Turning into Dealey Plaza was a death trap.
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I doubt there was one higher than three story building along the entire Dallas motorcade route that had the higher floor and room layout of the TXSBD.
The 6th floor of the TXSBD was just one big, open, wall-less warehouse space. That just happened to be empty of any other person besides a shooter? The perfect place to hide, then retrieve and assemble a broken down scoped rifle and set up a multi-boxed barricaded sniper's nest with gun rest incognito and have several minutes of incognito time to do all this before the arrival of JFK's limo.
The view from the Eastern most Plaza facing 6th floor TXSBD window was a turkey shoot one enhanced even more with JFK's limo having to take (2) slowing 90 degree turns right in front and right below said window. The Eastern most 6th floor window also provided an open aiming view of JFK's limo even after it was leaving and continuing on down slightly sloped Elm Street.
Gee, what a lucky coincidence for Lee Oswald that he happened to be employed in this best sniper set up building?
Shooting JFK as his limo was 265 feet away and driving away made more sense than getting him with a frontal shot coming towards the TXSBD on Houston, or directly underneath.
As many ground level bystander witnesses said, they thought the shots came from the long stretch of the upper part of the grassy knoll area under tree canopy or stone and wooden wall cover.
What a clever play on the shooter's part to wait until JFK's limo was leaving the Plaza and going along the Grassy knoll area as a diversionary sniper shot location focus.
As I've mentioned many times before, the "highest security measures ever taken" quote by DPD Chief Curry did not include having anyone scanning open high floor windows as JFK's limo passed underneath them as well as stationing officers on rooftops of such buildings? This security planning idea was ignored by all the other JFK Dallas motorcade security forces as well?
JFK himself thought his best chance at being taken out was by someone shooting him with a high powered rifle from above. But his own security people didn't also think of this simple common sense scenario and it being worthy of high priority consideration and addressing?
Clint Hill in his senior days lecture tours said many times, "his agency" simply didn't have the money and resources to address this specific security measure. But what about others who had the financial means?
I always thought it was common security minded sense to at least consider such a specific security measure and that this would have been discussed mutually between the entire motorcade security forces. The Miami PD just weeks earlier sure discussed and worried about it and addressed it by canceling the motorcade and moving JFK by helicopter.
If the SS didn't have the manpower, the DPD and Dallas Sheriff's office sure did. They had plenty of reserve officers available for such a measure.
My common sense guess is JFK's motorcade route was "purposely" planned with the last and most vulnerable silly little dog leg, two slowing 90% angle turns through the tightly looped, and relatively sparsely attended Plaza and grassy knoll area ( relative to the enormous crowds on Main Street) which just added to Lee Oswald's ( or other shooters) incredibly perfect shooting location luck.
And what another dark humor coincidence that the shooter's nest just happened to be in a building owned by JFK hating, extreme right wing Texas oil baron D.H. Byrd.
Sorry, too many nefarious and illogical logistical and missed security measure coincidences to ignore or pass off as Oswald's simple luck ...imo anyways.
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10 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:
Have no idea who may have nefariously facilitated Oswald getting a job in the TXSBD and if so their motive and connections.
However, it just happens to be a laughably suspicious coincidental fact that of all the higher floor buildings along the entire JFK Dallas motorcade trip...the one person who wanted to take a pot shot at JFK happens to have the perfect building to do this from?
One where JFK's limo has to slow down with two 90% turns just in front and below?
A totally alone wide open space high floor with a window that is overlooking JFK's limo with a turkey shoot view. Oswald ( or whoever is the shooter) has the floor to himself. No one else around to see him assemble his rifle and perch.
Throw in scores of heavy boxes to wall himself off from view in case anyone may wander up to the floor.
Not one security person on the ground looks up at the open windows of the TXSCB with any concern at all? Highest security precautions in Dallas police history? Chief Curry quote.
The motorcade route ends with two slowing down 90 degree angle turns ( or three? ) into this weird dog leg, sparce crowd location with not only the TXSBD looming right above during those turns, but a long stretch of tree canopy and fence lined grassy knoll which any common sense security person could see would be a perfect place for a sniper to shoot from and with no police security up behind that long stretch of hiding barriers?
Then throw in an overpass that JFK has to drive right underneath from which an explosive device could be dropped. And the DPD didn't even block it off from pedestrians ( or check those on it for weapons? ) before JFK passed underneath it? NUTS!
Oswald or some other shooter having the perfect shooting location...just an incredible coincidence? JFK's 2 90 degree slowing turns limo was brought to the perfect place for a high floor shooting. It was brought to the shooter.
And just another nefarious coincidence? The TXSBD building is owned by oil rich "JFK hating" D.H. Byrd? A close buddy of all the other wealthiest JFK hating men on Earth Texas oil barons and even of LBJ himself?
Naw...too many nefarious logistical coincidences in this story folks.
And perhaps Rip Roberts and General Ed Lansdale were in the crowd in Dealey that day.
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6 hours ago, Jean Paul Ceulemans said:
Agree, that's a lot of coincidences... way too much IMO
But, within the conspiracy theories there were previous attempts that did not "succeed" (they also included some patsies I think, didn't check those in full detail). This one could have failed as well for all we know.
What would be needed to call it off ? Was it "all-in" on Dallas ?
Dallas or back to the drawing board ?
Unless... failure was not an option...
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Have no idea who may have nefariously facilitated Oswald getting a job in the TXSBD and if so their motive and connections.
However, it just happens to be a laughably suspicious coincidental fact that of all the higher floor buildings along the entire JFK Dallas motorcade trip...the one person who wanted to take a pot shot at JFK happens to have the perfect building to do this from?
One where JFK's limo has to slow down with two 90% turns just in front and below?
A totally alone wide open space high floor with a window that is overlooking JFK's limo with a turkey shoot view. Oswald ( or whoever is the shooter) has the floor to himself. No one else around to see him assemble his rifle and perch.
Throw in scores of heavy boxes to wall himself off from view in case anyone may wander up to the floor.
Not one security person on the ground looks up at the open windows of the TXSBD with any concern at all? Highest security precautions in Dallas police history? Chief Curry quote.
The motorcade route ends with two slowing down 90 degree angle turns ( or three? ) into this weird dog leg, sparce crowd location with not only the TXSBD looming right above during those turns, but a long stretch of tree canopy and fence lined grassy knoll which any common sense security person could see would be a perfect place for a sniper to shoot from and with no police security up behind that long stretch of hiding barriers?
Then throw in an overpass that JFK has to drive right underneath from which an explosive device could be dropped. And the DPD didn't even block it off from pedestrians ( or check those on it for weapons? ) before JFK passed underneath it? NUTS!
Oswald or some other shooter having the perfect shooting location...just an incredible coincidence? JFK's 2 90 degree slowing turns limo was brought to the perfect place for a high floor shooting. It was brought to the shooter.
And just another nefarious coincidence? The TXSBD building is owned by oil rich "JFK hating" D.H. Byrd? A close buddy of all the other wealthiest JFK hating men on Earth Texas oil barons and even of LBJ himself?
Naw...too many nefarious logistical coincidences in this story folks.
And why did Harold Norman, Junior Jarman and Bonnie Ray Williams not go up to the floor with the best view of the JFK motorcade...the 6th floor? They chose the 5th? Wasn't the 5th floor a wide open room as well like the sixth floor?
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6 hours ago, Mark Knight said:
Speaking of Irish heritage, my mother was a Turley. My 6th great-grandfather was John Turley II, born in 1670 in Newry, County Down, Ireland. My 18th great-grandfather on my mother's side was Robert I the Bruce [Roibert a Briuis], King of Scots (1274-1329). [He also shows up on my father's side of the family as my second great-uncle's great-uncle's wife's 11th grandfather.] Mom had always said that we were of Scotch-Irish ancestry, but she only knew that she was told that as a child. [So I became the amateur genealogist to track it down.]
I do know that now and again I like some whisky, while other times I prefer whiskey. And when I drink, I'd much rather sing than fight.
Fascinating!
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7 minutes ago, John Cotter said:
What a beautiful place Carmel is. I’m fortunate to have visited that area of California years ago. I was particularly interested in Salinas and Monterey because of John Steinbeck and Big Sur because of Jack Kerouac.
My infatuation with America and Americana has never abated. As someone once said, the reason he liked America so much is that it’s the only country that hasn’t been Americanised. If only the Americans could tone down the militant capitalism, everyone would love them.
To answer William and Kirk, the only political ideology I subscribe to is democracy. George Bernard Shaw said, “Democracy without equality is a delusion more dangerous than frank oligarchy and autocracy”. I’m not sure what he meant by the second part of that sentence, but I fully agree with the first part.
Economic equality means just that. Otherwise, it’s the Orwellian Animal Farm absurdity, “All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.”
Equal opportunity is a big lie because the poor and especially the children of the poor don’t have the same opportunities as the rich. Therefore, there must be economic equality, including income equality for all fulltime workers, or as near to it as possible.
It’s a heretical idea (I seem to have a lot of those) but that doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
John. What did you make of my recollection of the different accents from Ireland?
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I once checked in two couples into the Cypress Inn of Carmel, California.
Almost 20 years ago.
I helped them to their rooms. By coincidence, each couple was from Ireland. They did not come together nor did they know each other.
I have always been keen on accents. They have always intrigued me.
Each couple had a distinctly "Irish" accent...but I clearly noticed a difference!
Before they departed and I had a few encounters with them as guests, I happened to mention the noticeable difference in their accents.
I was told that there is such a difference depending on what part of Ireland you were from. One of the couples told me they had a County Cork accent.
I forgot what area of Ireland the other couple was from.
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I can't understand the Democrats in Texas not initiating a continuous mass mailing campaign flyer project all over the state with side by side pictures of Tommy Bahama shirt, shorts and sandal wearing Cruz sunning himself on a warm Cancun Mexico beach with Mai Tai in hand, straw hat and ogling the bikini clad babes walking by... accompanied by a picture of shivering trailer park kids with their single mom suffering at the same time back in his unprecedented killer freeze home state of Texas.
With a bold lettered caption...CANCUN CRUZ - A SENATOR WHO CARES ABOUT HIS FELLOW TEXANS!
Every time a Democrat mentions Cruz he or she should refer to him as CANCUN CRUZ! To not do so is wasting the biggest shameful reveal of his true Texas citizen non-caring character.
And by the way, Raphael ( Ted ) Cruz's very politically minded dad Raphael Cruz Sr. "was" in New Orleans the entire time Lee Harvey Oswald was there doing his pro-Castro leaflet passing/street brawl/TV and radio broadcast debate shenanigans there. And the picture of Oswald handing out his flyers in front of the International Trade Mart shows a fellow leaflet passer who really does look remarkably like a young Raphael Cruz Sr. ... imo anyways.
And Raphael Cruz Sr. was born in the same year as Oswald....1939.
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13 hours ago, John Cotter said:
William,
We don’t seem to be getting anywhere in terms of logical discourse.
As for the choice between Munich and Dresden, I have to confess that growing up in monocultural, monotheistic, ultra-authoritarian, rain-sodden, sexually repressed, guilt-ridden Catholic Ireland where we didn’t speak Russian or German, images of the New Jersey Turnpike, Highway 61, Route 66, Wichita Lineman, Ventura Highway, Easy Rider, Vanishing Point and the general inundation of such Americana which violated our insular “innocence”, especially from the 60s on, had an irresistible illusory appeal for a gobdaw such as myself.
All my life since childhood I remember hearing this warning about the Irish:
Don't get em drinking!
Never know what an Irishman will do once they get even a wee bit amount of Uisce Beatha ( water of life ) down their gullet. Break out in song, start a brawl, crack funny jokes, dance a jig...but Holy Mary do they make great actors; Kenneth Branagh, Daniel Day Lewis, Richard Harris, Peter O'Toole, Liam Neeson....and on and on.
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Clarence Thomas should be censured!
Clarence Thomas stalls Lindsey Graham Georgia Subpoena order!!!
If that doesn't show Gini Thomas election denial influence bias ... what would!
What a national outrage! Thomas should have recused himself immediately.
The guy should be censured! He and his wife have destroyed his objective credibility.
Recall this guy! Before he does even more trust and integrity damage to the SCOTUS!
Graham knew this guy would weasel him out of under oath trouble.
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The discussion area of Lee Harvey Oswald and his actions, movements and motive theories can get so convoluted it is dizzying.
Yet, even I have my own "spin."
I watched an old video of Marina Oswald being interviewed by a small group of reporters just a month or two after 11,22,1963.
Dan Rather was in this group!
Marina seemed overwhelmed at times by their questions. Sometimes not fully understanding them because of her limited English. Other times you could see her hesitating before answering, because she sensed that her answer could be in some way detrimental to her self-interest.
One question was something like ...when did your husband start acting so crazy? Like shooting at Walker?
She hesitated and then said something like after she and Lee moved back here to the states. Not right away...but eventually.
She was asked why she didn't report such a violent act by her husband to the police? She simply said..."because I'm wife."
I've always been interested in the irrationality of Lee Oswald's behavior the last year of his life. He did some things that were so desperately risky...even suicidal.
The alleged JFK and Tippit shootings were the crowning most extremely violent suicidal actions. So self-destructive.
And so harmful to his family. It seems Lee Oswald truly cared deeply about his daughter June. Yet, even this was not enough reason to stop himself from possibly destroying himself and her future life.
Oswald didn't have a drinking or drug problem. Everything he did he did it stone cold sober. Where is Sigmund Freud when you need him here?
Maybe everything Oswald did that was anti-social in his life was born out of a totally neglected childhood, no protective father and an overbearing _itch of a mother?
A angry rage often comes with that neglect.
Charles Manson an extreme example.
The inevitable end result of our last 56 years
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The wealthiest right wing corporate Republicans since the 80's initiated and implemented a massive national radio propaganda machine ( Fox news is the T.V. medium counterpart ) that consisted of a cabal of 15 or 20 anger inciting radio talk personalities demonizing the Democrats and liberals to 50 million American listeners daily 24/7.
And it's been going strong now for almost 40 years!
Rush Limbaugh (The Godfather Of Rage Radio) was the revered icon of this liberal/democrat demonizing, fear and anger rousing propaganda team machine.
Other copycat Capos have included Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Mark Levine, Michael Savage, Laura Ingraham, Clyde Lewis, Dennis Prager, Alex Jones, etc. etc. even stints by G. Gordon Liddy and Oliver North!
And throw in the huge audience late night radio talk show Coast To Coast AM with their regular airing of inflammatory liberal bashing right wing commentary by Jerome Corsi, Roger Stone and the forementioned Alex Jones.
And include national radio and TV evangelicals like Jerry Falwell, Pat Roberston, etc. always none too subtly guiding their millions of listening folks to vote for the Republicans to save humanity from the devil worshipping liberal Democrats.
This liberal/democrat demonizing national radio public airwaves brainwashing ( enhanced by Fox TV ) has been going on for decades. It is now a generational agenda movement. In major ways these two massive audience media propaganda machines have constituted the societal conscious birth of national fear, anger and rage division.
Imo anyway.