Joe Bauer

More and more national stage figures are publicly stating the raw truth of Donald Trump as a "clear and present, unparalleled danger to our democracy." 

This final darkest assessment regards the man is becoming a national warning call.

The latest:

• Bob Woodward said he changed his mind about Trump after re-listening to his own interviews.

• Woodward previously described the former president as the "wrong man" for the presidency.

• But "Trump is an unparalleled danger," Woodward wrote on Sunday in the Washington Post.

Ahead of the release of his never-before-heard audio interviews with former President Donald Trump, Watergate journalist Bob Woodward wrote that after listening to the unreleased tapes again, he concluded that Trump was an "unparalleled danger" rather than just the "wrong man" to be president.

"The Trump Tapes: Bob Woodward's Twenty Interviews with President Trump," set to be released Oct. 25, is an audiobook of previously unreleased conversations between the veteran journalist and the businessman-turned-politician.

In an op-ed for the Washington Post released Sunday, which includes previously unreleased snippets of "The Trump Tapes," Woodward wrote that he had concluded his 2020 book on Trump by calling him "the wrong man for the job."

Woodward now says his assessment of Trump did not accurately describe the former president.

"Two years later, I realize I didn't go far enough. Trump is an unparalleled danger," Woodward wrote.

Who described Dougherty as "retarded?"

And why?

I just read Dougherty's WC testimony.

Shades of Helen Markham.

Not exact quotes:

You said you heard a rifle shot above you? JD "yes."

Asked again JD says no I didn't say that. I said backfire.

You went to the 6th and 5th floors before lunch? Yes.

You went to the 5th and 6th floor after lunch? Yes.

JD says "yes" to several questions...then when asked the same one later he says "No?"

I can understand why Jack Dougherty didn't communicate with Oswald.

Who described Dougherty as "retarded?"

And why?

1 hour ago, Paul Jolliffe said:

Thank you Paul.

My goodness, the man in the Oswald New Orleans leaflet passing photo looks JUST LIKE the TXSBD Shelley!

In his new audio book, famed journalist Bob Woodward reveals Trump to be "a threat to our democracy." 

Just another national stage figure publicly stating this.

Woodward's words here in todays news are devastatingly ominous in his over-all assessment of Trump as a serious threat to our democracy.

"Trump was the wrong man for the job," Woodward replied. "I realize now, two years later, all of the January 6 insurrection, leads me to the conclusion that he's not just the wrong man for the job, but he's dangerous, and he is a threat to democracy, and he's a threat to the presidency, because he doesn't understand the core obligations that come with that office."

No one can rationally defend this irrationally and dangerously afflicted man anymore.

7 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

10 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

 

Let's not forget about the mysterious death of Senator Paul Wellstone on October 25, 2002-- after Dick Cheney had privately threatened Wellstone for not supporting the Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld push to invade Iraq.

Wellstone was expected to win re-election to the Senate in November of 2002.

Wellstone's friend Al Franken believes that Wellstone's October plane crash was no accident.

Franken believed that? Wow!

10 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

 

 

I mention only because we in the U.S. don't like to discuss elements of Socialism, because it's pretty icky1

 

 

BRAVO!

31 minutes ago, Gene Kelly said:

Then there's Bill Shelley. In an April 2020 Kennedys and King article by William Weston, "The CIA and the Texas School Book Depository", the author suggests that Shelley - who had been distributing leaflets in New Orleans with Oswald- was a CIA operative. 

>>>>>  He also relates Shelley’s claim to a Lubbock journalist (Elzie Dean Glaze) admitting his association with the CIA, indicating a double life.<<<<<

 

And having a double life would not have made Shelley unique among the people who worked at the book depository ... Weston highlights collateral military, law enforcement, or intelligence affiliations for TSBD principals Roy Truly, Jack Cason, Joe Bergin, Sr. and Joe Molina,

Isn't there is a photo that shows someone who greatly resembles Shelley with Oswald handing out his leaflets in front of the International Trade Mart? Could someone post that photo?

10 minutes ago, Pat Speer said:

Once again, there's nothing suspicious about this. Williams was 19 and black and scared as heck. His subsequent confession and testimony he was on the sixth floor up until 12:15 or so was a HUGE problem for the WC.It was a hindrance, not a help. Here they were pushing this scenario that Oswald was up there for some time building a sniper's nest and putting together his rifle and YIKES Bonnie Ray comes along and throws a spanner in the works. 

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Exactly.

Wonder at what point in their police questioning employees Jarman, Williams and Norman may have told their police questioners they actually heard the rifle blasts and falling shells directly above their heads on the 6th floor?

If I was a police questioner I would have pulled them in for much more detailed questioning right there. No other TXSCB employees were in a location so close to the shooter.

Where they taken to police headquarters?

2 hours ago, Matt Allison said:

Quite a story

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/10/21/the-eeriest-conversation-id-experienced-in-washington-00061507

Like a dark intrigue movie. But real!

Who are these ominous looking black SUV with antennas and darkened window people? Who know what you are doing, where you live and follow you?

And who try to intimidate even Senators who are not going along with "their" agendas?

I think even Leahy felt some fear in his being watched, followed and with ominous appearing coercion intimidation.

Is this what our senators must deal with when their intended decisions contradict the powers to be?

4 hours ago, Pat Speer said:

No, it's not as simple as people making stuff up. They are ordinary people. They do not document what they said one day and compare it against what they said the next day. So their stories change. When they talk to other people about something, moreover, their recollections get mixed up with what others claim happened, and sometimes things change dramatically. This has been studied extensively by Dr. Elizabeth Loftus. While some CTs misrepresent her findings, when one reads her books for oneself one finds that memories are incredibly prone to suggestion. I discuss this extensively on my website. One test, for example, showed that when people are shown a brief glimpse of a person and subsequently asked to identify that person in a line-up, they will usually select the person who looked most like the person they were shown. That's not a surprise. What is surprising, however, is what happens afterward.  One group was then asked how certain they were of their identification. As I recall roughly 50% said they were not certain. The other group however, was told afterwards by a policeman at the line-up that they'd correctly picked out the suspect. This group, when asked if they were certain, overwhelmingly said yes. Something like 90%. Well, the clear deduction from this is that our sense of certainty about our recollections is greatly affected by others. 

So...back to Jenkins and O'Connor. Having met Jenkins, I think he has always told the truth as he saw it. At the 2013 Lancer Conference, in a side room discussion which was unfortunately not recorded, he was asked over and over about JFK's large head wound. And, much to the dismay of those claiming it was on the far back of the head, he said over and over again that it was at the top of the head, and that the back of the head was shattered but in place beneath the scalp. A few years later I met him at another conference--this was witnessed by Matt Douthit--and I pointed out to Jenkins that some of those with whom he was appearing had long claimed the back of the head was blown out and that there was a conspiracy to hide this from the public. He said something like "Yeah, well, what can you do? People are gonna believe what they want to believe." So I was shocked when he later put out a book, with a forward by Mike Chesser, who evidently helped him on the book, claiming the back of the head was blown out. This was in opposition to not only what Jenkins had said at the 2013 conference, and later to me personally, but what he told William Law in the their taped conversations. And yet there he was, reversing himself.  

Now, sadly, this is not at all unusual. I spoke to Bill Newman at a couple of these conferences as well. And he told me he knew that in his initial statement he said he'd heard two shots, and that he soon thereafter started saying he'd heard three shots, but that he had no recollection whatsoever of changing his mind about this. He said that evidently he originally thought he'd heard two, but now, whenever he replays the incident in his mind, he hears three. He had no explanation. Well, having read tons on this kinda thing, I reminded him that his wife had said, right from the start, that she'd heard three shots. I then asked him if, without his realizing as much, she could have convinced him he'd heard a third shot. He then laughed and asked me if I'm married or something like that, but repeated that he had no idea why his first statement says he heard two shots when he so clearly remembers three. 

 

 

 

I see. To a great degree I wouldn't argue your point about how common it is for eye witnesses to change their stories and for the reasons you state.

Of course this happens a lot.

Yet, this is not a steadfast rule all the time is it?

I also agree with Gil that usually corroboration is the greater weight determination of what may or may not be the truth regarding a witnessed physical action.

I don't think Jenkins or O'Conner ever had changing view claims regards the casket JFK arrived to the morgue in.

I also don't think James Jenkins could have got his "skull incision" recollection from any other source besides his own.

 Didn't corpsman Paul O'Conner do the JFK skull cutting and retraction procedure during the autopsy? If so, Jenkins would have noticed that such an incision was made by him imo.

Whose version of JFK brain observation and removal do we believe?

We have three.

Paul O'Conner: There were virtually no brains left to remove. Just eviscerated chunks? A handful?

James Jenkins: A third missing but otherwise an intact brain.

Commander Humes: The brain just fell into my hands. Like mush? ( also inferring the brain stem was cut?)

Humes could never explain why he never weighed the brain. Nor could he explain how in the final autopsy report JFK's brain weight was listed at more than a normal male's completely intact brain.

Guess it boils down to everyone simply using their life-time experience common sense in determining the truth in any affair.

So, Bethesda medical corpsman Paul O'Conner ( who literally helped lift JFK's body out of it's arriving casket and who, along with fellow corpsman Jenkins, unwrapped the sheets around his body ) also made up his JFK body claims that were close to or matched Jenkins?

Both these super up close to JFK's body for hours eyewitnesses have turned out to be discredited?  Dennis David as well?

All three?

Only the three autopsy doctors told the truth?

How depressing. Makes one feel you can't trust anything any low social, professional and military standing eyewitness said about what they claimed to have seen.

Only doctors and other higher status standing folks.

Resigned 45 day serving British PM Liz Truss to get $129,000 a year pension for life?

To ease the transition into civilian life. Same with Boris Johnson ( $115.000.)

Now THAT'S a sweet deal!

41 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

 

 

I know he's committed almost every sin and is still lying about doing so...but he is redeemed. And yes, we need the senate seat to save the country from the unchristian baby killing heathen democrats.

5 hours ago, Pat Speer said:

I spoke to James at two conferences. He specified on both occasions that the back of the skull was shattered beneath the scalp but remained in place until Humes peeled back the scalp. After falling under the sway of Michael Chesser, he changed this for his book. It pains me to think what else he's changed. Researchers love to complain when witnesses change their stories to fit the official story but fail to see or even acknowledge when witnesses change their stories to fit what all-too-many researchers are desperate to believe. It's an embarrassment, IMO. 

If this is true...it pains me as well.

You want to believe these important involvement persons and trust that what they share is true.

If Jenkins really made up his most serious claims like the skull bone incision, the grey shipping casket, the frontal bullet wound, the non-penetrating back wound and suspicious trachea etc.

I am just sickened. I feel so gullible.

So, If JJ made these things up...one must assume that Paul O'Conner did as well with his similar recollection claims? The casket, the brain, the frontal entrance wound?

Why would both these fellas feel they had to make up and/or exaggerate such important claims? Did doing so make them money? Or stroke their egos with some new found attention and celebrity?

Another huge let down if this was the case.

Next I am going to be told that Sylvia Odio made up her "Leon Oswald" meeting story?

This interview video of Jenkins is astonishing in it's revelations of contradictory autopsy findings entered into the WC report.

I am surprised more members here are not engaging with it and it's contents.

4 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said:

 

Exactly.

This oil corporation manufactured gas price inflation scam is 1,000 times less important than the 2021 Capital building/coup attempting attack by Trump's mob.

1 hour ago, Matthew Koch said:

Kirk, this is your answer to the inflation? "Wow I didn't know" 
I also saw your post saying that there's nothing to the Paines they're just all American quakers.. Is the motto of you and Matt 'take the blue pill'?

Because that seems to be all you do here, "there's no deep state take the blue pill." -Kirk

..he he  

 

Abrams is absolutely right.

The abortion issue is 10X more important than the Repub inflamed inflation issue.

Telling women what they can and cannot do to their own bodies and taking away their sovereignty over their own bodies is one of the most important aspects of their civil and human rights. 

One of the main stresses of this unfettered inflation is that the children women have not aborted are the ones suffering from it.

If freedom to choose attacking Republicans are as "pro-life" as they claim...they should be going after the inflation base price setters ( the small number monopoly of oil companies) to order them to sacrifice their massive profits temporarily for the good of the tens of millions of "living" children who are suffering from these family crushing gas prices...which raise every other basic need costs as well.

IMO, our main stream media is not reporting the true reality of stress over half our country is going through to it's true level.

I just read a poll that found that 25% of Americans are not celebrating Thanksgiving this year with a typical, traditional full menu meal of turkey, pumpkin pie etc.

Because they can't afford to!

Nobody's buying new cars. Sales have collapsed. Half the country is so financially strapped with the 100% increase inflated cost of the basics like gas, groceries, utilities, etc. they can't even think of such purchases.

I've watched this video several times since it was first aired.

I think it is a very important piece regards revealing important facts of the autopsy beginning with the actual arriving of JFK's body to the morgue.

JFK's body was delivered to the morgue in a grey shipping casket.

I'll watch it again to get my facts straight regards Jenkin's actual words.

I think I recall however, that Jenkins sometimes contradicts his fellow corpsman Paul O'Conner in a few key areas ( notably JFK's brain ) and you are left with trying to determine which one is more believable.

I tended to trust O'Conner's take slightly more in those areas.

One fact is a given however. Both Jenkins and O'Conner were right there from the second JFK was brought in. O'Conner actually helped lift JFK's body out of the casket. He and O'Conner helped remove the sheets wrapped around JFK's body.

One incredibly suspicious and intriguing observation that Jenkins relates ( from the 30 minute to 31 minute mark ) is that he saw a several inches long "incision" in JFK's skull bone that ran longitudinally from the top of the missing bone hole in the back of the skull forward to a frontal portion. Jenkins noticed this skull bone incision before any cutting was done at Bethesda.

As Bet-David astonishedly ask...how was that possible?

Obviously, such an incision would not have been made at Parkland hospital.

Jenkins said he didn't know.

Jenkin's personal avoidance of participating in the first 50 years of JFK discussion does sound sincerely well intentioned and grounded.

He seems quite honest.

Jenkins recollection of the HSC interview of him in his congressman's office was ominous in that the two investigative interviewers tried to steer him into rubber stamping the Warren Commission ( single bullet) conclusion.

If true, that's a sign that even that investigation was compromised by the WC promoters...whoever "they" were.

And Jenkins was lied to in the initial contact. He was told both these men were simply "attorneys" working for the HSC.

He soon discovered however, that one was an FBI agent.

The following charge by Kinzinger against Mike McCarthy is absolutely true.

Incredibly, outrageously and most, most seriously true!

Adam Kinzinger said Kevin McCarthy was giving 'aid and comfort to the enemy' and fodder to Russian media by suggesting GOP may not send more aid to Ukraine.

Imagine what Putin and his forces must think when reading McCarthy's public comments?

How inspired they must be to help the Repubs take the house and senate next month?

In what ways? Who knows. But they are very smart. You can bet they'll find some means to do so. And in the very least try.

Trump/McCarthy ... real patriots no?

Question is...for whom?

Most of our Presidents are known for one or two famous speech quotes in their terms.

Profound statements that framed their legacies more than any others.

Franklin Roosevelt:

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself."

Dwight Eisenhower:

Farewell speech. 
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

JFK:

Ask not what your country can do for you..." "We all breath the same air..."

Donnie Trump:

"I like to grab em by the pu$$Y."

LBJ:

"I don't think they ( the Warren Commission) or me or anyone else can be absolutely sure of everything that may have motivated Oswald ... or others that may have been involved."

Just now, Douglas Caddy said:

 

Prominent conservative judge joins battle against Republicans in momentous Supreme Court case - Raw Story - Celebrating 18 Years of Independent Journalism

J. Michael Luttig.

13 minutes ago, Matt Allison said:

Trump says she's "not my type".

Everyone disagrees, saying she's "sentient" and "inhaling oxygen".

"She's Not My Type."

Now THERE's a classic Trumpism.

Right up there with "I like to grab em by the pu$$y."

Trump's type?

Stormy Daniels,  Ghislaine Maxwell, "Judy" Guiliani ... see video.

Oh the classy gems that will make a Trump Presidential library a carnival side show.

Trump Can't Run And He Can't Hide From E. Jean Carroll.

Rape!

She's going after him like a lioness.

And like Monica Lewinsky, she's got the dress with DT's DNA on it!

Have you ever read Carroll's biography?

It's an amazing story.

She has had an incredible life of achievement.

She has accomplished as much as Dorothy Kilgallen.

Donald Trump...RAPIST?