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7 hours ago, Pat Speer said:
>>>>>> that Ball asked Piper questions about Dougherty off the record and then failed to ask them again after going on the record. <<<<<<
Asking certain witnesses questions "off the record" before their later sworn testimony and purposely choosing different ones or not asking them again "on the record" seems to have been the MO of several WC interviewing staff.
Talk about a laughably outrageous - integrity compromised means of controlling the fit the narrative investigative questioning process.
They did this with how many witnesses?
Sorry Mr. Seth Kantor, your sworn testimony recalling meeting and talking to Jack Ruby inside Parkland Hospital the early afternoon of 11,22,1963 just didn't happen.
We feel that most probably your recounting of this meeting was the result of hyper-anxiety induced hallucinatory factors.
Now, Jack Ruby's disjointed meandering account of his actions during that time were far more rational and believable in our minds.
The most ablest, judicious and unbiased truth seeking WC.
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Interesting that Gregory stated in his WC testimony that Marina told him Lee's Russian was better when he was in Russia?
Maybe because everyone there was speaking it?
Versus English here?
I agree that Lee was sensitive to other men who became close to Marina in any way perhaps looking for an opportunity to get even closer to her.
Many men are wolves like that and radiant blue-eyed Marina was physically very attractive, young, vulnerable and it seems intelligent and interesting to talk to.
It sounds as if some people ( men and women ) who got close to Marina and Lee felt Marina was short changed in her marriage to Lee.
Obviously Lee must have sensed this himself making him even more insecure about others showing interest in her.
I'll admit that even I was incredibly smitten with Marina Oswald while watching her in that famous "Marina, what do you do all day?" first interview by local newsman Eddie Barker in early 1964 shown on national TV.
I could see why Lee Oswald felt so insecure regards other men getting too close to Marina.
As far as this new book, I think if anyone reads Gregory's WC testimony they will know everything Gregory has to say about the Oswald's. No need to read a book about his testimony.
And yes, getting a book published by even mid-level publishers is a 1 in a 1,000 shot.
And his brief time with Marina and Lee hardly seems to be worthy of a published book.
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1 hour ago, Chris Barnard said:
I am sorry to hear this. I can’t imagine how challenging that is. With some of the very talented Dr’s out there, and the powerful healing potential of the body, I hope this comes to pass quickly and normality returns. Life just really kicks us sometimes. I am glad the back and forth here is providing at least some entertainment.
Thank you CB.
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49 minutes ago, Chris Barnard said:
BTW Joe, I hope you are feeling a bit better and are on the mend to some degree?!
Thank you CB.
Unfortunately...worse!
I don't know how I was able to post "anything" today.
My head feels like it has been kicked by a horse. Post concussion symptoms worsening. Equilibrium stuff. Focus stuff. Heavy headed. Neck pain to boot.
Vertigo worse as well.
Then I have been feeling nauseous all day as well. Get shock wave weak feelings. Scary actually.
Am calling a neurologist tomorrow morning to be seen asap.
This forum is my only distracting outlet.
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2 minutes ago, Matthew Koch said:
CBS Sunday morning did a segment on that today..
What William doesn't understand is; I watch my OPPS
Great! Thanks for the link.
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9 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said:
Lydia Hearst-Shaw 28 billion ... BILLION ???
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The following article summarizes everything I have been saying about the massive power and negative influence right wing talk radio has had on our society the last 30 years.
The top 10 huge national audience right wing political propogandists ( there are more behind them ) broadcasting their left-liberal fear mongering and demonizing demagoguery to 10's of millions of Americans 24/7.
Hannity, Dave Ramsay, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, Alex Jones, even George Noory, etc.
All following the Godfather of right wing radio Left/Liberal fear and hate broadcasting propaganda Rush Limbaugh.
Notice Coast to Coast AM host George Noory makes the top ten list! He favors the far right wing movement and has since he first appeared. He used to have Alex Jones on semi-regularly, Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi as well.50 million regular listeners tune in to this far right wing, fear mongering liberal hate radio propaganda every day.
And the left has basically no one?
SUNDAY MORNING
Talk radio: Widening the airwaves' great divide.
Across America, the message is loud and clear: 35 years after the talk radio revolution, "on the air" is still often an exercise in "off the rails."
Correspondent Jim Axelrod asked industry expert Brian Rosenwald, "In 2022's America, what's the nature of talk radio? Is it any different than it's been the last two or three decades?"
"If anything, Jim, I think it's more extreme," Rosenwald replied.
Following the repeal of the Fairness Doctrine in 1987, broadcasters were no longer required to present both sides of controversial political issues – which ushered in Rush Limbaugh's polarizing and immensely popular style that attracted 15 million listeners a week who felt dominant media outlets had a liberal bias.
"And I think over that long span, it has unquestionably divided Americans," Rosenwald said. "It has unquestionably hardened our politics."
"And how is that good for America?" Axelrod asked.
"It's not; it's bad for America."
Michael Harrison, the publisher of Talkers Magazine, the industry Bible, said, "We're facing a cultural crisis in this country. "If we could have on the liberal side what we have on the conservative side, the talk radio industry would be better, free speech would be better served, and the nation would be better served."
It's not that liberals haven't mounted a counter-attack; they just chose another battlefield.
As to why there is no "liberal Rush Limbaugh," Rosenwald said, "I think they've gone into other areas. I think Jon Stewart has been every bit of a trailblazer as Rush Limbaugh was, and he happened to colonize late-night comedy. Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, most of the late-night comics lean left at this point."
Which is why, more than three decades after Limbaugh weaponized talk radio for the right, liberals remain outmanned and outgunned. On the list of Talkers Magazine's Top 10 most popular talk radio hosts, all ten are conservative.
While the vitriol flows in both directions these days on commercial radio, the one part of the dial that is liberal turf, public radio, attracts big numbers, though its relatively restrained compared to the intense competition for listeners on commercial radio that's creating ever-more extreme approaches to attracting listeners.
If you're hoping for any change in this dynamic, don't; talk radio is now a mature business, with those running it less willing to gamble on something like nuance.
According to Harrison, "I think right now it's 'have a take, and don't suck.'"
Because the only color that seems to matter more than red and blue in our divided America … is green.
Axelrod asked, "What is the mission of talk radio? Is it to generate light, or heat?"
While the vitriol flows in both directions these days on commercial radio, the one part of the dial that is liberal turf, public radio, attracts big numbers, though its relatively restrained compared to the intense competition for listeners on commercial radio that's creating ever-more extreme approaches to attracting listeners.
If you're hoping for any change in this dynamic, don't; talk radio is now a mature business, with those running it less willing to gamble on something like nuance.
According to Harrison, "I think right now it's 'have a take, and don't suck.'"
Because the only color that seems to matter more than red and blue in our divided America … is green.
Axelrod asked, "What is the mission of talk radio? Is it to generate light, or heat?"
"The mission of talk radio," Harrison replied, "is to generate ratings and revenue."
For more info:- "Talk Radio's America: How an Industry Took Over a Political Party That Took Over the United States" by Brian Rosenwald (Harvard University Press), in Hardcover, eBook and Audio formats, available via Amazon, Barnes & Noble and Indiebound
- brianrosenwald.com
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4 hours ago, Matt Allison said:
Gerry Hemming and others posited that the elevator shaft was used, and was used for that deliberate purpose.
Gerry Hemming?
The 6 ft. 10 inch Gerry Hemming?
What's he doing in this picture?
I think an Oswald trial jury would have been inclined to find Oswald guilty based greatly on the "Back Yard" photos alone.
Where they see Oswald actually holding the rifle found on the 6th floor?
Fellow TXSBD book order filing employees Junior Jarman, Harold Norman and Bonnie Ray Williams kind of froze in the seconds following the shooting they heard just above their heads including ceiling plaster dust falling into their hair from the gun firing concussion force.
I believe I read they were afraid to run right to the stairs and on up to the floor above them or even straight down to the first floor?
Too bad...they were just one floor below.
One reason very possibly being they felt an automatic fear that being black men located right next the shooting floor that maybe they might be considered prime suspects in the hyper-aggressive police activity happening all around them?
Too bad they didn't go to the stairs in the seconds after the shooting however.
Carolyn Walther may have had the floor number wrong but she was adamant about seeing two men with rifles in one of the open windows minutes before the actual shooting and I have always believed her.
Arnold Rowland ( part time pizza maker and with some knowledge of rifles ) was also a credible witness imo and had clear views of a man holding a high powered rifle in two of the 6th floor windows.
When the Warren Commission chose to tell respected newsman Seth Kantor he was not in his right mind in his under oath account of personally meeting and even speaking to Jack Ruby at Parkland hospital on the early afternoon of 11,22,1963 I decided right there that the hearings were compromised.
They chose to believe the scattered and disjointed rants of Jack Ruby denying being at Parkland that afternoon over the sane, educated and calmly stated claim of Jack Ruby's presence there at that time by reputable newsman Seth Kantor?
Please.
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May not have the story straight but didn't Harry Olsen die a bloody death not too long after 11,22,1963. If even a few years after? Thrown or purposely ran through a plate glass door?
And was his wife the Ruby stripper that was found dead...hung by her own stretch pants in her jail cell?
Nothing to all these strange deaths...nothing to see here folks.
Yeah right.
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30 minutes ago, Sandy Larsen said:
Because if you don't accept that fact, then you believe that Oswald was at the right place at the right time by accident.
You also have to conclude that Oswald knew his shooting of JFK was a suicidal act.
That without anyone to help him run from the TXSBD and get far away fast...there was no way he was not going to be caught and very possibly shot himself.
Did Oswald become suicidal after being rejected by Marina the night before?
Killing JFK was more important to Oswald than his kid's future lives which as the children of such a surely vilified killer would have brought them shame and heart ache beyond measure?
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9 minutes ago, Matt Allison said:
Because Garner says she saw Truly and Baker come up after hearing Adams and Styles go down the stairs.
That shrinks the window of time in which LHO would have been able to get from the 6th floor to the lunchroom unnoticed.
True.
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56 minutes ago, John Cotter said:
I don't know why you thought that, JB, because I never said anything to suggest it.
Just read your post in a surface way.
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1 minute ago, John Cotter said:
Unlike Chris Hedges, JB, I have no first hand eyewitness war experiences and I hope I never have.
I think that like me, you would appreciate the sentiment of The Workers’ Song, sung here by Dick Gaughan:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmwHHUsWM_M
Come all of you workers
Who toil night and day
By hand and by brain
To earn your pay
Who for centuries long past
For no more than your bread
Have bled for your countries
And counted your dead
In the factories and mills,
In the shipyards and mines
We've often been told
To keep up with the times
For our skills are not needed,
They've streamlined the job
And with sliderule and stopwatch
Our pride they have robbed
But when the sky darkens
And the prospect is war
Who's given a gun
And then pushed to the fore
And expected to die
For the land of our birth
Though we've never owned
One handful of earth?
We're the first ones to starve
The first ones to die
The first ones in line For that
And always the last
When the cream is shared out
For the worker is working
When the fat cat's about
All of these things
The worker has done
From tilling the fields
To carrying the gun
We've been yoked to the plough
Since time first began
And always expected
To carry the can
I see. I thought you saw first hand the dead body carnage you describe occurring in all the war zones you cite.
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10 hours ago, Joseph McBride said:
Right, Robert Oswald forfeited any credibility
by maligning his brother falsely as a killer.
Using common sense here:
I think Robert Oswald always felt Lee was a deeply emotionally traumatized and damaged person. From his birth, Lee's childhood was so neglectfully dysfunctional it was a given.
I think Robert Oswald's first jail house visit with Lee and encountering Lee's cold, no emotion demeaner and cryptic silence and words..." Brother, you won't find anything there" while staring directly into Lee's eyes reinforced his view even more. Especially under the mind boggling world shocking event circumstances.
Robert Oswald explains this view of Lee in his book.
The killing of Kennedy, Robert Oswald said, was likely an attempt by his brother to get into the spotlight.
"Lee's political demeanor was simply a method of getting attention. He wanted to stand out, no matter what the crowd was. He was going to be different from the crowd," he said. "If everybody had been Marxist, he would have been an American, vice versa. You know, Russian, whatever, he would have been opposite to stand out.
"The reason Lee went after the president is because of opportunity and no other. If he wasn't working where he was working or if the president's car wasn't going by there at that particular time, it wouldn't have happened. It wasn't a master plan or anything. There's no shadowy figures out there. He wanted to be somebody and this opportunity came about coincidentally, nothing planned, nothing organized."
As rational as brother Robert's assessment of Lee's disturbed mental and emotional make up may sound to many, there is a big common sense void in his simplistic pure luck ( right place at the right time ) circumstances he promotes as making the JFK killing possible and probable by Lee.
Any halfway informed JFK event researcher knows of Lee's actions and behaviors in the months before 11,22,1963.
Lee's New Orleans political shenanigans. His strange involvement with others there who were incredibly nefarious like Guy Banister. Probably with De Brueys agency as well.
Somebody financed Oswald's middle of a business day in the middle of town leaflet passing. Someone paid Lee to do this and to afford paying his helpers. Oswald's unemployment checks sure didn't cover those expenses.
Whoever financed Lee's Fair Play For Cuba event is the "Big Enchilata" entity City court xxxxx attorney Dean Andrews warned Jim Garrison about in the film "JFK."
And then there was Oswald's Clinton LA activity, the "Mexico City" trip, The Sylvia Odio affair, The Walker shooting, possible informant activities, etc. etc.
Lee was no isolated "loner" in these affairs. He was interacting with many other shady characters throughout.
To ignore Lee Oswald's many aggressive involved actions and interactions pre his Texas School Book Depository job in the larger picture of his possible guilt and connections to others in the 6 month lead up to 11,22,1963, is an avoidance of monumental circumstantial evidence and testimony that shouts out the illogicalness of the simplistic "right place at the right time" just got lucky scenario that Robert Oswald prescribes as Lee's "mark on history" motive legacy...imo anyways.
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4 hours ago, John Cotter said:
Chris Hedges has written an eloquently scathing article about this:
Chris Hedges: The Pimps of War
The unaccountable coterie of neocons and liberal interventionists who orchestrated two decades of military fiascos in the Middle East are now stoking a suicidal war with Russia.
The same cabal of warmongering pundits, foreign policy specialists and government officials, year after year, debacle after debacle, smugly dodge responsibility for the military fiascos they orchestrate. They are protean, shifting adroitly with the political winds, moving from the Republican Party to the Democratic Party and then back again, mutating from cold warriors to neocons to liberal interventionists. Pseudo intellectuals, they exude a cloying Ivy League snobbery as they sell perpetual fear, perpetual war and a racist worldview, where the lesser breeds of the earth only understand violence.
They are pimps of war, puppets of the Pentagon, a state within a state, and the defense contractors who lavishly fund their think tanks — Project for the New American Century, American Enterprise Institute, Foreign Policy Initiative, Institute for the Study of War, Atlantic Council and Brookings Institute. Like some mutant strain of an antibiotic-resistant bacteria, they cannot be vanquished. It does not matter how wrong they are, how absurd their theories, how many times they lie or denigrate other cultures and societies as uncivilized or how many murderous military interventions go bad. They are immovable props, the parasitic mandarins of power that are vomited up in the dying days of any empire, including that of the U.S., leaping from one self-defeating catastrophe to the next.
I spent 20 years as a foreign correspondent reporting on the suffering, misery, and murderous rampages these shills for war engineered and funded. My first encounter with them was in Central America. Elliot Abrams — convicted of providing misleading testimony to Congress on the Iran-Contra Affair and later pardoned by President George H.W. Bush so he could return to government to sell us the Iraq War — and Robert Kagan, director of the State Department’s public diplomacy office for Latin America — were propagandists for the brutal military regimes in El Salvador and Guatemala, as well as the rapists and homicidal thugs that made up the rogue Contra forces fighting the Sandinista government in Nicaragua, which they illegally funded. Their job was to discredit our reporting…
They once railed against liberal weakness and appeasement. But they swiftly migrated to the Democratic Party rather than support Donald Trump, who showed no desire to start a conflict with Russia and who called the invasion of Iraq a “big, fat mistake.” Besides, as they correctly pointed out, Hillary Clinton was a fellow neocon. And liberals wonder why nearly half the electorate, who revile these arrogant unelected power brokers, as they should, voted for Trump.
These ideologues did not see the corpses of their victims. I did. Including children. Every dead body I stood over in Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Gaza, Iraq, Sudan, Yemen or Kosovo, month after month, year after year, exposed their moral bankruptcy, their intellectual dishonesty and their sick bloodlust.
They did not serve in the military. Their children do not serve in the military. But they eagerly ship young American men and women off to fight and die for their self-delusional dreams of empire and American hegemony. Or, as in Ukraine, they provide hundreds of millions of dollars in weaponry and logistical support to sustain long and bloody proxy wars…
https://consortiumnews.com/2022/04/11/chris-hedges-the-pimps-of-war/
Have you written a book or books chronicling your incredibly extensive on the ground, first hand eyewitness war experiences and your contemplative war generating world order thoughts such as those shared above?
I share many of your views and sentiments.
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Remarkable.
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Have you read E. Jean Carrol's Bio? Wow!
Dorothy Kilgallen reincarnated!
Amazing achievements.
A whirlwind of creative energy and forceful will.
I was stunned by the multiple skill set breath of her accomplishments.
I kept thinking of Dorothy Kilgallen while reading about Carroll.
In many ways Carroll had a wider scope of achievement than even Kilgallen!
Carroll was even Miss Cheerleader USA!
E. Jean Carroll - Wikipedia
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Trump And E. Jean Carroll.
All Trump has to do to make Carroll's rape/defamation case go away is to submit a DNA sample to a third party chosen lab.
If it doesn't match what Carroll claims is on her black dress ... she and her reputation will be ruined.
It's a win-win situation for Trump if he is telling the truth that the sexual battery incident never happened.
And the damage to Carroll's reputation if the DNA didn't match would be the kind of heavy pay-back revenge Trump loves.
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3 hours ago, Joseph McBride said:
Oswald was an FBI informant infiltrating
the plot and had met with the bureau
at least three times in November
before the assassination. DA Henry
Wade, a former FBI agent, told me
Oswald met with the FBI a day or two
before the assassination. Two earlier November
meetings had previously been established. Oswald
did not know before the shootings of Kennedy and Tippit that he
had been set up as the patsy in the plot.
Wow!
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MM was traumatized from a very young age.
Her childhood up to teen years was so unstable and emotionally neglectful it was simply tragic.
She carried that trauma throughout her adult life.
She was blessed with physical beauty that was so incredibly bewitching to men this actually made her life harder. Imagine the constant never ending sexual advances made by men all around her.
Rewatching MM perform that overly sultry and breathy "Happy Birthday Mr. President" act for JFK ...I actually feel sorry for her.
She was way overly dramatic with wildly swinging arms, leg stomping and exaggerated lip pursing to the point of appearing kind of drugged or in the least champagned up.
Some might say she kind of made a fool of herself.
But who organized her sad stunt? Who put her up to it?
Always somebody pushing MM to do things that were not in her best interest.
As much as JFK loved attractive women who were sexually available I would be surprised that he never got close to MM, if even once.
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Miami got derailed when the Miami PD decided to helicopter JFK in.
Me thinks the Joseph Milteer taping rattled them
Ole Joe sure got a bullseye hit on describing JFK's demise down to the uncanny details to Police informant Willie Somersett...
They will kill him ( JFK ) using a high powered rifle from an office building window. They'll round up a patsy within hours...
And right after the assassination Milteer calls Somersett and says...""Everything ran true to form. I guess you thought I was kidding you when I said he would be killed from a window with a high-powered rifle."
Chicago got derailed too.
LBJ's business dealings corruption trial was just getting underway on 11,22,1963 and so was Carlos Marcello's hearing.
The LBJ corruption hearings just fizzled out after that.
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1 hour ago, Kirk Gallaway said:
I'm not sure how many abortions Herschel Walker has been party too, All the while campaigning that abortion is a crime against any exceptions of rape and the mother's health.
But this is truly funny but sad. Tom Coton and Rick Scott go to Georgia to help Herschel Walker's faltering campaign. Obviously Walker being totally tone deaf to his recent hypocrisy launches into a story about a stud bull looking for greener pastures to impregnate. As he starts the story , watch the reactions of the 2 Senators and their fear of where there that story will go.
What's sad about this is the lengths the GOP will go to win in the election. They'll literally say any lie and endorse anybody!
Whew! But top it off with a little American Exceptionalism, Everything be cool!
Brilliant analogy by Walker.
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Former Harvard psychiatrist says Trump is untreatable …
Trump threat deniers and down players ... pull your reality fearing heads out of the sand and read this article.
The Killing Floor
in JFK Assassination Debate
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You would think an employee would not just drop his garbage on the floor or a box like that for someone else to clean up? If I am a boss and came upon trash just thrown like that I would make every effort to find the employee and reprimand him or her with a stern warning against doing it again.