Ty Carpenter

https://grassyknollgirl.wordpress.com/2013/09/27/308/ Above link to the story.

Big if true...

http://www.sfgate.com/business/article/ON-ECONOMICS-How-Kennedy-Assassination-2958771.php Interesting article on stock prices after the assassination from 1996.

Thank you!

What is the best website to view photographs of the assassination? Is there a site that has a comprehensive collection? All input is appreciated!

I have read some on Operation Paperclip. To me, that is pretty well documented and seems to be more for the scientists and engineering types. I am thinking this is more along the lines of operational type folks that were brought in semi-secretly for spying or intelligence gathering purposes. But thanks guys, I will do some more browsing!

Could the Mexico City Mystery Man be a Nazi/German? The man appears to me to be in his 40's at the time of the photos. A WW2 veteran with an age of approx. 25 years at the end of the war, would have been 42 in 1963. So I would say it would acceptable to apply a plus or minus of 5 years of age. From what I gather, there is no proof or consensus of who this guy is.

http://www.npr.org/2014/11/05/361427276/how-thousands-of-nazis-were-rewarded-with-life-in-the-u-s The above link is to an article about a book titled "The Nazis Next Door"- How America Became A Safe Haven For Hitler's Men. The book states that with direct assistance from American intelligence officials, thousands were able to settle into the US. Their records were wiped and they were to be used as spies and operatives. We even have a quote appearing from Allen Dulles himself which states, "We are going to actively recruit Nazis, their pasts be damned". For their services, the Nazis were able to live out their lives in freedom and relative obscurity. Is it possible that some may have been used as operators in the assassination? They could do their job and be disposed of with no flags being raised, or, if they could be trusted, I am sure they would have no interest in speaking of their deeds so they could maintain their newly found freedoms. I have not seen any Nazi angle in my research of the assassination to this date. Is this perhaps an overlooked aspect?

Thank you all for the responses. Paul, I will be looking into that site! Now, It has been stated that Mr. Liggett worked for Restland Funeral Home of Dallas on the day of the assassination. It was also brought up earlier that at the time, ambulances were owned and operated by funeral homes as opposed to the hospitals. Do we know if Restland owned and contracted ambulances, and if so, what were their actions on the 22nd?

Paul, Do you have a link or further info in regards to the Prescott Dulles Dinner? Those Bush's sure do have a thing with dinners at strange times with strange people. You have the Prescott/Dulles dinner which I had never heard before. Then you have the scheduled Neil Bush Scott Hinkley dinner that was to happen the day after the Reagan attempt. To top it off, you have Poppy Bush having breakfast with Bin Laden's brother and others the morning of 9/11.

Tom, What would the significance of a stutter be?

If you google Judy Parker Killeen Texas you will find a linkedin page. A Judy Parker is listed as surviving the short Obit for Mr. Belknap. If there are questions for her, maybe this would be a means of contact?

In TMWKK there was an odd story about a funeral director. He had disappeared either shortly before or after the assassination for a few days. Upon his return he had come into some money and was acting strangely, moving his family from place to place. Does anyone know his name or which home he worked for? I am not sure if it was even in the Dallas area.

http://www.kenrahn.com/Marsh/Jfk-conspiracy/rike.html This is the most comprehensive short bio of Rike I have seen. It states that he and his partner picked up Belknap in the plaza. As far as ambulance numbers go, I haven't the slightest.

Paul, I believe the promise of an invasion of Cuba would have been the carrot on the stick for the actors of the simulation portion of the operation. The stick holding the carrot had other ideas and possibly had others working on a real assassination. Either way, I feel we have one group holding the stick and multiple others chasing the carrot, and that carrot could have been several different things depending on which side of things you aligned with. I would even go as far to say that the stick is still there and we all are chasing a different carrot 54 years later. I was perusing a thread earlier about who had the football. I didn't read too deeply but my assumption was that no one really knows. What a tool the football could be to get people to fall in line.

Joe, I I couldn't agree more with your statement. This is the kind of conversation that we need. One where opinions are respected and information organically flows. This thread puts a thought in my mind about Aubrey Rike. He has had at least 4 unusual interactions with the assassination. 1. He claims that the ambulance was called out several times preceding the assassination, but when he arrived, there was no patient. 2. He was the driver who picked up Belknap immediately before the leader of the free world was to make an appearance in that very spot. 3. He says he comforted Jackie at Parkland and helped her slide her ring on JFK's dead finger. 4. He says he held the crucifix on top of the ceremonial casket so it would not fall to the ground during the struggle. Of course, I have no evidence of Rikes true intentions nor am I accusing him of anything. I am just trying to get thoughts on the record and hope for further insight from others. I have not read his book either. But does it not seem strange for an ambulance driver to have so much contact with a historic event as well as being allowed to freely converse with and spend a precious moment with the FLOTUS? Can anyone point me in the direction of Rikes biography? Specifically, I am wondering what his profession was after he quit the ambulance job.

Larry, You are probably correct in your thinking. My thought would also include the use of basic diversionary military tactics, as I think it would have been a military/intelligence type person operating an abort mission. I would think some of the same operational tactics used to facilitate an ambush could also be used to stop one. Like I said, your thoughts are probably correct, I am just trying to throw some other ideas out there. And isn't crazy that a pickup truck would be allowed to be sitting there on the parade route? That is just unfathomable to me today.

This theory makes a great deal of sense to me. What if the sponsors of the "simulated assassination" were the ones who themselves hijacked it and turned it into a real assassination, that being the plan all along? This would create confusion and only a few would know what really happened. I believe all of the operational details listed in this post could fit into this scenario. The only question I had would be then how would the cover up be controlled by these folks. I believe this would follow closely to operational details of theories of the 9/11 attacks. Webster Tarpley theorizes that during 9/11 George Bush was essentially threatened by the conspirators with two options. Either play along with us, or we will launch WW3 via a nuclear strike and AF1 would be shot down. Could it be possible the same type of scenario was dictated to LBJ? It is assumed Bush was given his ultimatum during the events of the day, but could LBJ have been given his before the act, hence some reports of possible LBJ foreknowledge. I am not sure about the veracity of these two supposed episodes, but, you have LBJ arguing with JFK the night before about where Connally would ride, and Madeleine Duncan Browns statement from the night before the assassination that LBJ said "After tomorrow, those goddamn Kennedys will never embarrass me again. That’s no threat. That’s a promise." I am curious if others have anything to add some two years since the last post on this thread.

Could it be possible that this episode was an attempt to "abort"? The thinking being that an ambulance blocking the parade route would force an on the fly re-route away from the kill zone. This could explain the reports of several calls in the month ahead of the assassination which to me seem to be used as a timing test. Perhaps the aborters were on time but the motorcade slowed down after hearing reports of this, or the pickup of the "epileptic" went too fast.

"He also added a fact that I’m not sure was in the original phone interview—that there was still another coffin that arrived at Bethesda, via helicopter. This turned out to be important, in terms of the possibility that there was either a decoy casket also sent by helicopter, or that there was validity to the account that a Secret Service agent had been shot that day." The above quote is from David Lifton's tribute post to Dennis David. Is there any research into a helicopter arriving at Bethesda on the evening of the assassination? If a secret service agent were murdered that day, wouldn't we have a name? Is there a record of autopsies performed at Bethesda starting on the 22nd and through the next week or so?

Big, if true!

What makes you guys think that the Paine's believed LBJ to be behind "it"?

So if I can read through your sarcasm, I see you list every option that has been tried or thought of in the past 70 years. However, you forgot the one where we bring them a big red "reset" button. I guess option 2 is the only good one then. Once General Buck Turgidson is installed, I guess nuclear armageddon it is.

What evidence do you have to support this opinion?

Why do we act so surprised and feign outrage that Russia may have hacked a political organization? I am grateful that we have the hacked emails at our disposal. I am not saying that I support another country meddling in our affairs, but the information brought to light was extremely enlightening and has not even been questioned as being false. Oh yeah, the US would never attempt to influence another countries elections or assassinate political foes either foreign or domestic. My question is, what do you suggest we do about the Russians?