Michael Clark

Guantanamo Bay---------- -After a wiki-reading of the Guantanamo lease, It looks like item one would be up for interpretation based on how friendly our relations were. Certainly Cuba would want more than $5000 by now, and probably in 1959 as well. I am thinking that a hostile, illegitimate, Communist Cuba would convincingly be argued to be a government that we would no longer need to deal with. The fact that we have sent lease checks is an odd caveat to that situation. I imagine that the fact that we attempt to pay in checks rather than gold is only a notional matter. ----------------- The 1903 lease agreement was executed in two parts. The first, signed in February, included the following provisions: a promise by Cuba to lease to the United States a specified area at Guantanamo Bay "for the time required for the purposes of coaling and naval stations"; the right to acquire any privately owned land within the leased area "by purchase or by exercise of eminent domain with full compensation to the owners thereof"; the right to use the areas as naval stations, and for no other purpose, with a non-exclusive easement to adjacent waters; consent on the part of Cuba to the US exercising "complete jurisdiction and control over" within the leased area; recognition by the US of Cuba's "ultimate sovereignty" over the leased area. The second agreement, signed five months later in July 1903, established the amount of USD$2,000 to be paid to Cuba annually by the US. Additional stipulations included the following: payments were to be made in gold coin. the US would pay to build and maintain fences marking the boundary of the leased area; commercial and industrial activities in the area would be restricted; mutual right of extradition a duty-free zone, but not a port of entry for weapons or other goods into Cuba proper Cuban shipping to have the right of access to the Bay ratification to be within seven months. The lease amount was changed in 1933 to $3676.50 and in 1934 to $4085. Payments have been sent annually, but only one lease payment has been cashed since the Cuban Revolution and Fidel Castro claimed that this check was deposited due to confusion in 1959, and the Cuban government has not cashed further checks. --------------- I am assuming there is more to dig into in this matter. Cheers, Michael

Just dropping this quote here for future use.. George Smathers: from this thread: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/1113-george-smathers/#comment-78184 Nixon is commonly supposed to have been introduced to Bebe Rebozo by Richard Danner, the courier and connecter who left the FBI to become city manager of Miami Beach at. a time when it was under the all-but-open control of the Mob. Danner first met Nixon at a party thrown in Washington in 1947 by another newly elected congressman, George Smathers. Smathers was by that time already an intimate friend and business partner of Rebozo and a friend of Batista. When Nixon vacationed in Havana after his 1952 election to the vice-presidency, Syndicate-wise Danner used his clout with Lansky's man Norman "Roughhouse" Rothman to get gambling credit at the Sans Souci for Nixon's traveling companion, Dana Smith. We recall Dana , Smith as the manager of the secret slush fund set up to finance Pat Nixon's cloth coats, the exposure of which led to the famous Checkers TV speech during the 1952 campaign. Smith dropped a bundle at the Sans Souci and left Cuba: without paying it back. Safe in the States, he repudiated the debt. That infuriated Rothman. Nixon was forced to ask the State Department to intervene in Smith's behalf. It is poetically satisfying to imagine Nixon and Rebozo meeting through Danner. When Danner reenters in the next to last act of Watergate with the $100,000 from Hughes which only he seems to have been able to deliver, we may sense a wheel coming full circle. But there is the possibility also that Rebozo and Nixon actually connected in Miami in 1942, and it is almost certain that they knew of each other then, as will emerge. Here are the fragments with which we reconstruct Rebozo: (1) he is associated with the anti-Castro Cuban exile community in Florida; (2) an all-Cuban shopping center in Miami is constructed for him by Polizzi Construction Co., headed by Cleveland Mafioso Al "The Owl" Polizzi, listed by the McClellan crime committee as one of "the most influential members of the underworld in. the United States"; (3) his Key Biscayne Bank was involved in the E. F. Hutton stock theft, in which the Mafia fenced stolen securities through his bank. Rebozo's will to power appears to have developed during the war, when he made it big in the "used-tire" and "retread'' business. Used-tire distributors all over the country; of course, were willingly and unwillingly turned into fences of Mafia black market tires during the war. Rebozo could have been used and still not know it. He was born in 1912 in Florida to a family of poor Cuban immigrants, was ambitious, and by 1935 had his first gas station. By the time the war was over, his lucrative retread business had turned him into a capitalist and he was buying up Florida land. Before long he was buying vast amounts of it in partnership with Smathers and spreading thence into the small-loans business, sometimes called loan-sharking. From lending he went to insuring. He and Smathers insured each other's business operations. His successes soon carried him to the sphere of principalities and powers the likes of W. Clement Stone of Chicago and the aerosol king Robert Abplanalp, both of whom met Nixon through him. Also during the war, Rebozo was navigator in a part-time Military Air Transport Command crew that flew military transports to Europe full and back empty, which some find a Minderbinderesque detail. During the first year of the war, before going into the Navy, Nixon worked in the interpretations unit of the legal section of the tire-rationing branch of the Office of Price Administration. Investigator Jeff Gerth has discovered that three weeks after Nixon began this job, his close friend-to¬-be, George Smathers, came to federal court for the defendant in this case, United States vs. Standard Oil of Kansas. U.S. Customs had confiscated a load of American-made tires reentering the country through Cuba in an "attempt to circumvent national tire rationing," i.e., bootleg tires. Smathers wanted to speed up the case for his client, and so wrote to the OPA for a ruling. His letter must have come to Nixon, who, OPA records show, was responsible for all correspondence on tire rationing questions. It was therefore Nixon's business to answer Smathers. Especially since this was the first knock on the door, it would be nice to know what Nixon said and how the matter was disposed of. "Unfortunately," reports Gerth, "most OPA records were destroyed after the war. The court file for this case is supposed to be in the Atlanta Records Center, but a written request submitted to the clerk of the civil court on July 6, 1972, has not been honored, despite the usual one week response time. Written questions submitted to President Nixon and Bebe Robozo have also gone unanswered. Among the relevant questions is whether Miami was one of the regional offices Nixon set up. Was this the bending of the twig? And if Rebozo and Nixon actually did meet then, even if only through bureaucratic transactions around the flow of tires, then they met within the sphere of intense Syndicate activity at a time when Roosevelt's Operation Underworld had conferred immense prestige and freedom of movement on Syndicate activities. Could the Nixon-Rebozo relationship escape being affected by FDR's truce between law arid crime? Let us spell out this theory of Nixon's beginnings in A-B-C simplicity. Prohibition: Organized crime takes over the distilleries industry. Repeal: Bootlegging goes legit, the Syndicate thereby expanding into the sphere of "legal" operations. This is the first big foothold of organized crime in the operations of the state. Cuba/Batista: Lansky goes to Cuba in 1934 in search of a molasses source, meets and courts the newly ascendant strongman Batista, stays three weeks and lays plans for developing Havana into the major off-shore freezone of State-side organized crime, Cuba playing the role in the Caribbean of Sicily and Corsica in the Mediterranean. World War II: In despair of otherwise securing the physical security of the docks against sabotage which may or may not have been Fascist-inspired, Roosevelt accepts a secret arrangement with organized crime. He comforts Luciano in prison and agrees to release him to exile at the end of the war. He generates an atmosphere of coalition with crime for the duration. In that atmosphere, Syndicate projects prosper. But one of the smugglers, Kansas Standard, gets too brazen and is caught, perhaps, by naive customs officials. Smathers takes the case for the defendant and thus comes into contact with Nixon. Noting Gerth's discovery that the records of this case have inexplicably disappeared from the files, noting Rebozo's involvement in the tire business and his rapid enrichment during World War II, and noting Smathers's well-known affection for Cuban associations, we generalize to the straight-forward hypothesis that Nixon may have been fused to the Syndicate already in 1942. Was his 1944 stint in the Navy a sheep-dipping? Look at this rise: 1946: Nixon for Congress; 1948: Nixon for Congress (II); 1950: Nixon for Senate; 1952: a heartbeat away.k So it is another Dr. Frankenstein story. The Yankees beget in sheer expediency and offhandedness the forces that will later grow strong enough to challenge them for leadership. Operation Underworld was the supreme pioneering joint effort of crime and the state, the first major direct step taken toward their ultimate covert integration in the Dallas-Watergate decade. ------------------------ Gil Jesus wrote The subject of assassination as a tool of state (in regard to Cuba) was discussed by JFK and Smathers. Smathers could not remember whether he brought it up or JFK did, but Smathers suggested, according to Warren Hinkle and William Turner (Deadly Secrets-The CIA/Mafia War against Castro and the Assassination of JFK, pg. 73) , that any assassination attempt be coupled with a staged incident at the Guantanamo Naval Base that would provide a pretext for intervention by American Forces. Smathers' suggestion about using Guantanamo as an excuse to invade Cuba was similar to the plan suggested by Richard Nixon in his post-invasion visit to the White House when he suggested finding "legal cover" such as "defending our base at Guantanamo" as an excuse for "going in ". Shortly thereafter, Kennedy learned enough of Smathers' right-wing associations to make him wary.

Various name entries...................... David Yaras http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/14955-david-yaras/ I have always considered Dave Yaras an important figure in the assassination of JFK. As a young man he became friendly with Jack Ruby. Yaras later worked as a hit man for Mafia boss Sam Giancana. Yaras was also a close associate of Jimmy Hoffa, president of the Teamsters Union and helped establish Teamster Local 320 in Miami. After the Second World War Yaras worked for the Mafia in Cuba. According to a federal narcotics officer, Yaras "ran a number of gambling operations on the island". After the fall of Fulgencio Batista, Yaras was the "Chicago mob's liaison to the Cuban exile community". Yaras, considered to be the prime suspect in several gangland killings, was arrested 14 times by the police. In 1947 he was arrested for the murder of James M. Ragen, the national manager of the Continental Press Service, an organization that was in conflict with Mafia leader, Carlos Marcello. As G. Robert Blakey and Richard Billings have pointed out in their book, The Plot to Kill the President: "Four witnesses identified Lenny Patrick, Dave Yarras, and William Block as the gunmen, but after one witness was murdered, two recanted, and another fled, the indictment was dropped." Yaras was released and no charges were ever brought against him for the killing. When the Kefauver Senate Committee later investigated the murder of Ragen, something they regarded as a landmark syndicate event, another key witness in the case was murdered. In their book, Deadly Secrets (1992), Warren Hinckle and William Turner argue that the McClellan Senate Rackets Committee "credited" Yaras with playing a significant mob role in Havana. The historian, David Kaiser, pointed out in The Road to Dallas (2008) that Yaras was linked to Sam Giancana: "Bugs and phone taps revealed his associations with hit men Lenny Patrick and David Yaras of Chicago (both childhood friends of Jack Ruby)." In 1962 an electronic eavesdropping device installed in a Mafia hangout by the FBI picked up a conversation where Jackie Cerone commissioned Yaras to murder Frank Esposito. Yaras said on the tape: "Leave it to us. As soon as he walks in the door. Boom! We'll hit him with an ax or something. He won't get away from us." According to a FBI informant, Yaras and Lenny Patrick were responsible for the killing of City Alderman, Benjamin F. Lewis on 13th February, 1963. One official report stated that Yaras was one of "more than a score of top-rated exterminators who work strictly on contracts for the board of directors." The night before the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Yaras telephoned another hit man, Robert Barney Baker. A few days earlier, Jack Ruby also received a 17 minute telephone-call from Baker. Yaras was interviewed by the FBI and admitted that he had known Ruby for about 15 years in Chicago. However, as Bernard Fensterwald has pointed out: "The FBI never asked Yaras about his own Mafia connections, but did ask him whether he thought Ruby was connected with the syndicate. Yaras, as one might guess, stated that he doubted that Ruby had such connections." Jack Ruby's sister, Eva Rubinstein Grant, told the Warren Commission that Yarras and Lenny Patrick, were two of his closest friends in Chicago. This evidence was ignored and General Counsel J. Lee Rankin told Commission members that Ruby only had links to "the minor underworld". According to Peter Dale Scott, the Warren Commission covered-up Ruby's connections with Yaras. In his book Deep Politics and the Death of JFK (1993) he wrote: "The Commission did not receive an important interview with Luis Kutner, a Chicago lawyer who had just told the press (correctly) about Ruby's connections to Chicago mobsters Lennie Patrick and Dave Yaras. All the FBI transmitted was a meaningless follow-up interview in which Kutner merely said he had no additional information. Apparently the FBI also failed to transmit a teletype revealing that Yaras, a national hit man for the Chicago syndicate who had grown up with Ruby, and who had been telephoned by one of Ruby's Teamster contacts on the eve of the assassination, was about to attend a 'hoodlum meeting' of top East and West Coast syndicate representatives, including some from the 'family' of the former Havana crime lord Santos Trafficante." Dave Yaras was murdered in 1974. Lenny Patrick gave a deposition in 1978. He claimed he did not have any relevant information on Jack Ruby. However, he did accept that his friend, Yaras, "was closer to Ruby than he was". ------------------------------------ Another article about another, possibly unrelated, Yaras... Mobster Slain As Rackets Boss Enters Custody January 11, 1985|By Philip Wattley and William B. Crawford Jr. A REPUTED CRIME SYNDICATE gambling boss who once was an associate of mobster Joseph DiVarco was shot to death Thursday, the day DiVarco was ordered into federal custody as a danger to the community. The gangland-style killing of Leonard Yaras, 44, of 6400 N. Cicero Ave., Lincolnwood, and the action against DiVarco, 73, prompted authorities to reconsider a string of past gangland killings for possible relationships to the two men. But police said a motive for the Yaras killing was still under investigation. Yaras was slain by two men wearing ski masks as he sat in his car in the 4200 block of West Division Street moments after leaving the building that houses A-1 Industrial Uniforms Co. and three other laundries, at 4224 W. Division, witnesses told police. YARAS ONCE told authorities he was a ``consultant`` to A-1 Industrial Uniforms, investigators said. Chicago police said Yaras was once regarded as a lieutenant to DiVarco, who was convicted of gambling charges and tax violations on Wednesday in U.S. District Court here. But police said Yaras had moved up in recent years and operated on about the same level as DiVarco. Yaras reputedly was a syndicate gambling boss in the Rogers Park and north suburban areas. DiVarco is in charge of mob gambling in the Near North Side nightclub area, including Rush Street, according to police. Federal agents said Yaras had been interviewed some time ago by members of the U.S. Justice Department`s Organized Crime Strike Force, but he was not a federal informant. POLICE GAVE this account of Yaras` killing: Yaras came out of the laundry at 10 a.m. and entered his late-model Oldsmobile on the north side of Division Street. As soon as he shut the door, a tan Chevrolet swung in front of his auto, preventing it from going forward. Two men wearing ski masks got out, and one opened the driver`s side door of Yaras` car. The men shot Yaras four times in the face and once in the throat. Yaras fell toward the passenger seat and was shot two more times, once in each leg. Some bullets missed or went through him and broke the passenger-side window. YARAS FELL on top of a bundle of files and a calendar. Police and federal agents examined the items Thursday night. The gunmen got back in the Chevrolet, driven by a third man also in a ski mask, and drove away. The car and license plates had been stolen earlier Thursday in Burbank, police said. A short time after Yaras was shot, the Chevrolet was found burning in an alley near North and Latrobe Avenues, about a mile northwest of the shooting. POLICE SAID the Chevrolet apparently had been firebombed and was completely burned. Witnesses told police they saw four men get into another auto and speed away. Police said the four men probably included the three involved in Yaras` killing plus another man who drove the second getaway car. Yaras was the second member of his family shot to death. His brother, Ronnie, 36, who authorities said operated a string of massage parlors in Miami, was found dead in his Miami home on April 18, 1974. Their father, David Yaras, who suffered a heart attack while playing golf and died in Miami in January, 1974, had been charged with murder (in Chicago), robbery and extortion but was never convicted. A FEW HOURS after Leonard Yaras was shot, DiVarco appeared in federal court and was linked by FBI agents to the gangland slaying of mob figure John DeJohn, 51, in April, 1981, and to the botched assassination attempt on former gambling boss Ken Eto. After the testimony, U.S. District Court Judge Milton Shadur ordered DiVarco, of 4275 W. Jarvis Ave., Lincolnwood, into custody. The order means that DiVarco, who was admitted to a Chicago hospital for heart problems Thursday, has federal agents outside his hospital door 24 hours a day. He faces sentencing Feb. 27 on the Wednesday gambling conviction. If he is released from the hospital before then, he will be taken to the Metropolitan Correctional Center. Shadur`s decision came after a hearing that also resulted in the jailing overnight of Ronald Ignoffo, 35, reputedly a top DiVarco lieutenant, who was convicted Wednesday along with DiVarco and four other men. THE JUDGE ORDERED that Ignoffo be held in the Metropolitan Correctional Center until a hearing Friday to determine the extent of Ignoffo`s alleged role in mob terror activities and whether he, like DiVarco, poses a threat to society. Judith Dobkin, a U.S. Department of Justice attorney in the Organized Crime Strike Force in Chicago, initiated the hearing by invoking a new provision of the federal criminal code. Under the new law prosecutors can ask that defendants be jailed immediately after conviction upon a showing that they pose a danger to the community, even if they have posted bail. Page 2 of 2 (Page 2 of 2) January 11, 1985|By Philip Wattley and William B. Crawford Jr. FBI agent Scott Jennings testified that he had been told by Timothy Joyce, a former mobster, that Ignoffo was present in a car when DeJohn, a reputed drug peddler, was slain in the spring of 1981 at the request of DiVarco. The agent`s testimony indicated that DiVarco allegedly ordered DeJohn`s killing out of fear that the victim had become emotionally unstable and no longer was to be trusted. In reference to the botched assassination attempt on Eto, which took place Feb. 10, 1983, Elaine Smith, another FBI agent, testified that DiVarco had arranged a dinner meeting between Eto and the two men who allegedly tried to kill him, Jasper Campise and John Gattuso. THE NIGHT of that meeting, Campise and Gattuso allegedly shot Eto three times because mob bosses feared that Eto was about to become a federal witness. Eto survived the attack and is in the government`s witness protection program. Campise and Gattuso later were found slain, their throats slit, in the trunk of Gattuso`s car. By testifying that DiVarco had arranged the dinner engagement, FBI agent Smith apparently was attempting to show that DiVarco had a role in the attempted killing of Eto. DiVarco, Ignoffo, of 1733 N. Keating Ave., and the four other men were convicted Wednesday of running an illegal sports betting parlor on the Near North Side that took in as much as $200,000 a day from 1978 to 1980.

Thanks Douglas, Ugly stuff.

Essentially False. My working pet-theory is that the Watergate break-in was intentionally botched. The break-in was executed by operatives who had a hand in the JFK assassination. These guys (Anti-Castro Cubans / Mob) were expecting an invasion of Cuba after the JFKA but were double-crossed by co-conspirators (Far-Right-Industrial) who had no interest in freeing Cuba and wanted the Vietnam war. Nobody was going to get what they wanted through JFK. The JFKA burglers showing-up at Watergate was a threat to Nixon to make the move on Cuba. They might have expected Ford to do it but the parties that were not interested in Cuba were still not on board, and launching a Cuba invasion might have been seen as a quid-pro-quo, and the association with the Dallas hit might have already been precariously close to being exposed. The intent was to get Nixon to act, not to necessarily take him down. Cheers, Michael PS. I see no poll-option on this thread.

No need for sorry. I will admit that I haven't followed nor absorbed much about him.

March 24-26, 1990. The Grateful Dead. Knickerbocker Arena. Albany, NY. Recorded and released as a three-disc set as "Dozin at the Knick" And I was there, Friday night. A near studio quality recording. (I later found that other bands sound exceptional at that venue as well) Featuring phenomenally appreciative, considerate and cooperative crowd as demonstrated on "I bid you Good-Night" and one of the three "Space" jams, where the music drops to nothing but a light rim drum tap, for quite a while, and nary a peep is heard from the crowd. Don't buy a download of it unless you make certain that you are getting all songs in there entirety. Also, the song order on the discs is better, with more un-interupted transitions than I have seen on my Apple-store download. Cheers, Michael Hell in a Bucket

A Thread on James Schlesinger. Both threads saw a few replies, on one day, over 10 years ago. Worthy of a bump? http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?/topic/6648-james-schlesinger/

CIA and military kept at a distance. Some CIA left prints, Like David Atlee Phillips and Hunt. CIA was not on the "need-to-know" list. Lol! Sturgis and Morales were hired agents of fortune, who would get theirs when Cuba was reclaimed. That never happened and I bet Nixon almost keeled-over when Hunt, Sturgis and Barker showed up at Watergate. I don't detect Morales in the JFKA.

Yes sir, but my knowledge on that is simply Wikipedia, but it is also common knowledge in circles such as the one we are in.

Operation Northwoods was a plan to justify the elimination of Castro.

This is interesting, It explains why Paul rejects mob involvement in the JFKA. Big mistake. Marcello was a prime mover.

Carlos Marcelo was Sicilian, not Latino.

Thank you James

James, I deleted my comments here and elsewhere. I'll take your word that my comments were offensive in a extraordinary way. I thought that all of the things that I posted were commonly mentioned elsewhere. I felt that I was just rearranging the pieces in a way that made more sense. these threads often get contentious and I usually stay out of them. I'll stay out of them going forward. Cheers, Michael

Honestly James, I don't mean to just lightly throw around accusations. But how am Am I to get around the WC's SBT theory without thinking that doctors lied? Weren't there doctors who supported the SBT? Aren't there doctors who do not support the SBT? Do You support the SBT? The answer to that would help me know where you are coming from. Cheers, Michael

James, I absolutely have not been able to make any sense out of all this. Haven't all the elements that I have placed on the table, including all your points made, been bandied-about before? Haven't all pictures, x-rays, doctors and reports been questioned as nauseum? That has been my general take. I just arranged the puzzle pieces, that still seem scattered, in a way I have not seen done before? And regarding Connally's wound, I am assuming that you are saying that the shoulder to nipple wound, as per the WC, is technically not the chest? Or are you saying that the wound described by the WC is entirely incorrect, even discounting the JFK neck wound and Connally's hand and thigh wound. Cheers, Michael

Fair enough, I haven't read the book, so I'll drop-off here.

THEORY: BARKER IN DALLAS ON NOVEMBER 22, 1963? When Michael Canfield visited Dallas in April 1975 he interviewed Seymour Weitzman, who was in a home for aged veterans. Seymour Weitzman had a nervous breakdown in June 1972 - shortly after Watergate. He requested that his doctor, Charles Laburda, be present during the interview. Seymour Weitzman told Michael Canfield he had encountered a Secret Service Agent in the parking lot who produced credentials and told him everything was under control. He described the man as being of medium height, dark hair and wearing a light windbreaker. Michael Canfield showed him photographs of Watergate burglars STURGIS and BARKER, and asked him if either of these men resembled the "Secret Service Agent" he had encountered on November 22, 1963. He pointed to BERNARD BARKER. He told Michael Canfield: "I can't remember for sure, but it looked like him. Couldn't swear it was him though...anyway so many witnesses are dead...two Cubans once forced their way into my house and waited for me when I got home. I had to chase them out with my service revolver...I feared for my life." A recent JFK Records Collection Computer search revealed that one page of a Warren Commission document that dealt with Seymour Weitzman and the tramps was referred to another agency for review. [NARA 180-10095-10367; see 180-10095-10355] When the HSCA attempted to question Seymour Weitzman, Dr. Charles Laburda objected: "Since Mr. Weitzman was treated for emotional illness for many years...information sought from him should be extracted from his testimony and depositions made at that time [1963 to 1964]." [ltr. VA Laburda 6.1.78] Seymour Weitzman, born January 28, 1922, died in July 1985.

Steve, I don't think that kind of coordination was necessary. Elements of the DPD and Sheriffs command just had to know to tolerate a few strange Cubans and suits in and around the area. After the hit, let some spooks and suits sort through some of the strangers, let some people out the back door. If any Cubans did get wounded or killed, hide the body and cover up the incident. This last part was the dirty trick because it hid the conspiracy and prevented an action on Cuba.

"Not an answer though" Paul, I would have addressed you, like I did in this sentence, If I were addressing you. ---------------- "It's clear that most Russian effort has been towards dividing the left." Paul, that's an absolute giveaway that they have achieved their goals. They are dividing "us". You see "us" as the the left. They are dividing all of us. ------------------ I generally agree on the rest. I subscribed hoping to get a view from outside the MSM. Yet, this is as creepy and divisive as alt-right stuff that I see on FB. Cheers, Michael

Paul, You digress. What do you think of my theory? Cheers, Michael

Paul, I wrote, in quotes, that he was "part of the plot". The plotters knew he was "part of the plot". Beyond that, I don't know. Yet, If I were Lee, and I saw someone bring a rifle to that building that Thursday, and I had NFC what was going on. I would have come down with the flu by Friday morning. But, thanks to 11-22-63, I have the benefit of paranoia. Cheers, Michael

"Acording to the police chief, "We could never put the rifle and the person together." No, Marina, you are the only one, besides Paul Trejo, who did that. Otherwise, a fantastic read, Thanks Jim, Michael