Michael Clark

David, as always, thanks for your input. It is always highly valued. I don't take the diary to the bank. What is troublesome is Paul Trejo's propensity to make assertions as if they were common knowledge. In this case he uses weasle words to ever so slightly distance himself from from the outright to a nuanced fraudulancy. He changed his words slightly rather than show evidence of his claims, and, again, pose it as if it were common knowledge. Paul Says that LHO was continually asked to join the CP, where does that come from? He makes claims denying what LHO says he did with regard to his citizenship and passport, without showing what his claims are based on. His next sentence is typical of his presentation of his fraudulency; he says " Anybody who knows anything about the Communists during the Cold War knows that....." blah, blah, blah. He couches unsupported claims and fraud within the context of his self proclaimed expertise. There is nothing polite about that and it boils my oil when he demands politeness.

John, it would have to be on the web. I tried to explain with an example before I had to leave this morning. I ran out of time.

User storage for uploading photos is very limited. You can use the "insert other media" tab for posting pics.

Paul Trejo is at it again.... with weasle-words

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Paul, the subtle change from this....... .................. "Paul Trejo wrote: "Also, the fact that LHO never surrrendered his US passport -- smart move. Also, the fact that LHO enjoyed benefits like the newest apartment complex in Minsk, and additional monthly payments from the Red Cross. Also, the fact that LHO never applied for Soviet citizenship. Very smart. Also, the fact that LHO refused to join the Communist Party there -- though continually invited. Also smart." Regards, --Paul Trejo" 3-29-17 "Bill Simpich's State Secrets" thread And from the same thread, "Bill, I agree that Oswald was a spy -- in his own mind. I also agree that Oswald never renounced his US citizenship, nor applied for USSR citizenship, nor joined any Communist Party while in the USSR, or the USA. Regards, --Paul Trejo" ..................... .......To what you wrote above, is just an insertion of weasle words. You need to show the Warren commission text of which you speak. You need to show some background for your assertion that LHO was continually asked to join the communist party. The Yeltsin Papers, and the diary of Lee Harvey Oswald show that you fabricate stuff, whole cloth, use weasel words to slightly shift your position and don't back up your claims. There is nothing polite in asserting bold-faced fabrications, with a smile.

I get the feeling that history is actively and frantically being destroyed forever.

It fits his "everything is fine" attitude. If a host of CIA agents conspired to kill JFK it's "because they were rogue", and the CIA bears no culpability. According to Paul, there was no Coup De ta because we had a Vice President who succeeded, even if there was a cover-up. He blames some cowboys who went un-noticed, except by Himself, so he is a genius and everyone else is a fool. It's a deep look into his mentality. The up-side is that, if he is being honest (albeit foolish) it is due to denial; and that denial is fueled by the reality of consequences of the false governance we have been living under and it's implications for the future. It's difficult to accept and I have seen intelligent people have a brush with that reality and they immediately fall back on the WC fable because it is much easier to accept. An analogy is the idea of barriers to entry into a market in the business world. The barrier to accepting the coup and conspiracy is the fact that you have to accept that you are no longer free, and that you have been living a lie. It is very difficult to accept when it hits you all at once. One is either living a lie or selling the lie.

Thanks for the commentary Paul. I have not read enough of her stuff. That magazine I posted should be an interesting source in general going forward. I’ll admit that I have camped on my CT, so I now see more of what I am looking for rather than looking with an open mind. Mae and this magazine have caught my interest though. Thanks for the copy-paste.

One of many falsehoods that Paul Trejo repeats over and over even though he is repeatedly shown that his claim is false.

I don't think CE399 was ever fired into anything but air of water.

I found this, and it is searchable.... https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Rebel_11-22-83.pdf "Buckley served the CIA in Japan from 1950 to 1954. He also did a stint with CIA in Mexico with E. Howard Hunt. Co-founder of YAF was Douglas Caddy, whose offices were used by the CIA, Howard Hughes organization, at the time of Watergate illegal entries and other dirty tricks. " .............. In 1961, a year after Buckley founded YAF, another conserva­tive organization was formed in Munich, Germany, calling itself CUSA, Conservatism USA. These were not students, but mem­bers of the U.S. army, soon to be mustered out, then to appear in Dallas, Texas, by November 1963. The host would be Robert Morris. ............... "Friday night I attended a gathering of the top conservatives in Dallas." "The meeting was at the home of Dr. Robert Morris, President of the Defenders of American Liberty." "Present were Mr. George Ward, Detective for Dallas City Police, Mr. Ken Thompson, editorial writer for the Dallas Morn­ ing News, Mr. Clyde Moore, former PR man for H.L. Hunt, for­ mer UPI writer. (Eight others)" "I told them exactly what I wanted" "Others suggested using an already existing movement, name the Young Americans for Freedom, with already 50,000 members." "CUSA, as set up in Munich, is now an established fact in Dallas, only we are calling it YAF. I think you catch on". "We are starting Munich chapters of YAF. "To spread to Stutt­ gart, Frankfurt, Heidelberg, Berlin, Kaiserslautern," "We are getting every top name in business, education, politics and religion to endorse YAF". "The advisory board includes 37 Congressmen ... including Sen. Strom Thurmond, Sen. John Tower, and Sen. Barry Goldwa­ ter. There is Ronald Reagan, Gen. Mark Clark, Gen. Charles Willoughby, John Wayne, etc." Change all your records to read YAF". "All those months in Munich were not wasted. I accomplished my task in Dallas. I need you here soon. I sold these people on each of you and they are expecting you to come to Dallas and play an important role". "The days of leisure are over". "We want to see you, Norman, Jim and Bill Burley back here in Dallas". "Sheila and my brother will be here in August; Ken Glazebrook in Sept." June 13, 1963, Larry Schmidt to B. Weissman in Munich, Germany. "

" There were two possible assassination teams in Dallas. The military from Munich, Germany, that was to take over the YAF, with Robert Morris' help, have yet to be identified." Bingo, the the Northeast Establishment handshake with Walker. If I could ask Mr Caddy a question, I would love to know how deep G. Gordon Liddy's relationship to the YAF and William F. Buckley actually ran. And if he, Caddy, knew Liddy from the 1958 time frame. Young Turks..... Paul, would you share the link to that article please?

Interesting stuff. This needs to be transcribed. On p. 16 Gifford Pinchot Right wing scion of a wealthy Pennsylvania Family. Involved in Anti-Castro activity with Frank Fiorins Sturgis, Marita Lorenz and E. Howard Hunt. Knowledge of No-Name Key activity. (Miami) Apparently, this is Mary Meyer's half brother. Their grandfather was once the Governor of Pennsylvania.

Point being... like it or not... the family jewels are being held over Trumps head. I was astounded by his words: " I have no choice".

Why did we have to wait, so long, for Meullers' indictments?

Lol! Paul Trejo believes that the CIA took an extended lunch on 11-22-63 ( what the heck, it’s Friday, right) and were therefore off the clock, and not responsible.

Bump. I would like to know what convention surrounds the crossed-out text occurrences. **** edit. Adding this here so I don't bump the thread again. https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32146309.pdf

http://somesecretsforyou.blogspot.com/

I though she was pretty fair, pointing out that Newman even calls the WWIII virus speculation. She is clear in that she respects his work. Without better and further proof that takes us, and Newman, to more solid ground than speculation, such an article is important. I am not nearly as convinced, as many people here are, that Angleton was a main player. I think Newman's theory has a lot to do with the large number of people who suspect Angleton; a lot of people may be side-tracked. Regarding Mexico City: I am not seeing enough of a distinction being made, or more precisely, being made clearly, about what people are specifically saying when they write about Oswald being in Mexico City and the evidence thereof. Distinctions should be made as to whether Oswald: -Was in MC as per the Warren Comission. -Whether the evidence supports that -Whether he was in MC, in that time frame, but not at the embassy or Consulate at all. -Whether he was in MC in that time frame, but at the embassy or consulate at a different time. -Whether he was in MC at a different time frame. -Was there evidence for any this ... and on and on. A dubunking of the WC story is important, but the presumption, from that debunking, that he did not go at all, and there never was evidence for it all, is an assumption that divides researchers and hinders an understanding of what may have happened. Cheers, Michael

I am pretty sure the picture in question is of Oswald in the presence of 5-or-so other men leaflletting at the NOLA Trade Mart, during his sheep-dipping.

This is an important subject to me. Can anyone say how Newman came to the WWIII virus hypothesis? In particular, was it discovered and flesh-out as an answer to the question of "Why was Cuba not invaded, when it seemed that evidence was deliberately generated to spark an invasion"? Or, was it the other way around?

It’s a pathetic and painful read, like a FB clickbait interest piece. Sadly that type of writing seems to be infecting the field of jurinalism at a rather aggressive pace.

Thanks! I have edited-in the numbers.