Michael Clark

Let's see... what do we have here.... Paul Trejo said: "Pill Simpich (2014) fully and completely explained why the CIA in 1963 and afterwards SUPPRESSED all photographs of Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico City" ------------------ Ill ask: what is your take, Paul Trejo, on Bill Simpich's take on that? How did he explain that? Or, do you, as usual, expect the gentle reader to just accept your take on another researcher's take, on something. It's a rhetorical question. The answer is the latter; that is how you roll.

To be sure.

Red and bold are my responses.

Paul Trejo said, above: 9. As for the TSBD, it was not the only good position for an ambush in Dealey Plaza. The Grassy Knoll was also EXCELLENT. Also, there was a storm drain in which a man with a rifle could stand -- MUCH closer than the Grassy Knoll! ---------- On 11/10/2017 at 2:42 PM, Paul Trejo said: Finally, Mathias, I'm pretty sure I shared my opinion with you about the TSBD building -- it was irrelevant to blaming Lee Harvey Oswald for the murder of JFK. The key factors in blaming Oswald were solely and only: (1) that Oswald was fully sheep-dipped in New Orleans as a card-carrying Communist; and (2) that the Dallas Police obtain Oswald's own rifle, somehow. ....... So, the TSBD building was only a stroke of good luck for the JFK plotters. Hoover's "Lone Nut' CT was the stroke of bad luck they had not anticipated. Regards, --Paul Trejo ----------- Paul Trejo, If LHO does not have a job at the TSBD, how does a conspricy count on him being the shooter? Was he expected to spend his time picking up cigarette butts in the parking lot on 11-22? I await your absurd reply...

In Stone's "Nixon", I have wondered why Helms is implied to have an obsession with orchids, when it is Angleton who is said to have that particular interest:

@ 4:45: "President Kennnedy was assassinated by men who sought a radical change in our foreign policy, particularly, with regard to Cuba." There are so many prescient words in Jim Garrisons television presentation. It is a shame that this thread gets sidetracked and diverted to 2016 election rabbit holes.. You can't say that I did not try:

To be sure, Paul, we are in agreement here as well, with, perhaps the exception of the Guantanamo detail. I don't think that JFK could have imagined that 54 years later, we would still be in an antagonistic relationship with Cuba. I don't believe that JFK could have imagined that, by the end of a prospective second term, we would be in an antogonistic relationship with Cuba. I believe he would have seen anything but a satisfactory regime change as an unimaginable failure. Guantanamo would have had to have been renegotiated or vacated for that to happen.

Russian interference in last years election is only spoken about, like LHO's guilt, as if it was a matter of fact. Is it an assumption that only Russian outlets were propogating bogus news a year ago? Are American outlets being investigated as propogating bogus news? Is there such a thing as bogus news if it comes from the US,? Is it only bogus if it is both false and foreign? I don't see us having much luck prosecuting purveyors of bogus news if we are trying to say that we are the only ones that can do that to ourselves. Edited just now by Michael Clark

Because another thread was going off-topic I decided to open a new thread.

Paul, the short answer is ...." Because that is what happened". 54 years later we still own Guantanamo, without paying our $4085 rent fee, or re-negotiating it. We don't have to re-nogeotiate with a government that we deem antagonistic, how convenient. Part of the long-answer is here on the second page: And here:

***** editing this in here... Istanbul, Nov 7 (Prensa Latina) The Cuban researcher Fabian Escalante assured here that despite the passage of time, authorities in the United States are far from clarifying the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, although they have said for 54 years that the secrets will be revealed. Escalante is in Turkey to present his book on the assassination of the U.S. president in 1963, which was translated into Turkish, so he made statements to Prensa Latina. According to Escalante, 'first they accused Cuba and the Soviet Union of the crime without evidence, just due to ideological reasons'; however, the declassified documents, which belong to three institutional committees, did not shed light on the assassination either. 'If there was an iota of truth in those documents, it would have been known a long time ago, but 99 percent of the materials have been declassified and there is nothing, so it seems an aggression against Cuba; that is why, they have tried to prevent or frustrate the declassifications of documents,' he noted. About Kennedy's assassination, the Cuban researcher questioned its past and pointed out that it was used by U.S. intelligence services to perpetrate a premeditated crime. He assured that 'Lee Harvey Oswald went to the Soviet Union as a deserter but he was already a CIA agent.' Shortly after, he decided to return to the United States and 'the first job that he gets in Dallas is in a company that makes the U2's flight maps. How is it possible that a deserter who returns from the Soviet Union is given such a job? Escalante wondered. Later, Oswald left for New Orleans 'and there, the first thing he did was to contact CIA agents; afterwards, he changes his line of conduct and becomes a supporter of Cuba and starts printing flyers in favor of Cuba; that is, at that time, Oswald has been chosen as the scapegoat, he does not know, but it is like that,' the researcher assured. The missile crisis in October 1962 changed the political vision of President Kennedy, who sent a commission to Cuba to study the possibility of rapprochement between the two countries, something that, according to Escalante, might have led to his tragic end. 'On June 10, 1963, Kennedy gave an extraordinary speech, a trial against the Cold War, and I think that it was the last straw in the United States, and his assassination was decided,' noted Escalante, for whom 'a CIA sector that was in charge of the aggression against Cuba' was responsible for that crime. 'Kennedy was a man with a different perspective, evidently he realized that he had to change the policy on Cuba,' he added, but the tragic end allowed for the continuity until today of 'that real power, which does not forgive Cuba for the revolution it made, at the doors to the United States'. According to the researcher, 'that aggression will be maintained'. jg/rc/acm/gdc

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Connell Michael Connell For other people named Michael Connell, see Michael Connell (disambiguation). Michael Louis Connell (November 30, 1963 – December 19, 2008) was a high-level Republican consultant who was subpoenaed in a case regarding alleged tampering with the 2004 U.S. Presidential election and a case involving thousands of missing emails pertaining to the political firing of U.S. Attorneys. Connell was killed when the plane he was flying crashed on December 19, 2008. LifeEdit Connell was originally from Illinois and lived in Bath Township, near Akron, Ohio.[1] His company also maintained a website for the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth527 group during the 2004 election.[2] Request for protectionEdit In July 2008, the lead attorney in the King Lincoln Bronzeville Neighborhood Association v. Blackwell case, Cliff Arnebeck, sent a letter[citation needed] to U.S. Attorney General Michael Mukasey seeking protection for Connell as a witness in the case, saying he had been threatened. Arnebeck wrote, “We have been confidentially informed by a source we believe to be credible that Karl Rove has threatened Michael Connell, a principal witness we have identified in our King Lincoln case in federal court in Columbus, Ohio, that if he does not agree to 'take the fall' for election fraud in Ohio, his wife Heather will be prosecuted for supposed lobby law violations."[citation needed] Arnebeck claims that months later, his source called back and warned that Connell's life was in danger.[3] He was served with a subpoena in Ohio on September 22, 2008,[citation needed] in a case alleging that vote-tampering during the 2004 presidential election resulted in civil rights violations. Connell, president of GovTech Solutions and New Media Communications, was a website designer and IT professional and created a website for Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell that presented the results of the 2004 election in real time as they were tabulated. At the time, Blackwell was also chairman of the Bush-Cheney 2004 reelection effort in Ohio. Connell refused to testify or to produce documents relating to the system used in the 2004 and 2006 elections, lawyers said.[citation needed] "Connell...was apparently told by a close friend not to fly his plane because his plane might be sabotaged, and twice in the last two months Connell, who is an experienced pilot, cancelled two flights because of suspicious problems with his plane." according to Blake Renault of the Cleveland CBS News station covering the crash.[citation needed] DeathEdit At about 6 p.m. on December 19, 2008, Connell was killed, at the age of 45,[1] in the crash of a single-engine 1997 Piper Saratoga private airplane, which he was flying, which occurred in Lake Township, between 2.5 and 3 miles short of the runway at the Akron-Canton Airport near Akron, Ohio. Connell was alone in the plane and had been returning from the College Park Airport in Maryland, near Washington, D.C..[4] The plane crashed on its final approach to the airport's main runway, between two houses, one of which was vacant. Connell had flown the plane from the Akron-Canton Airport to the College Park Airport on December 18, 2008 and, according to the Stark County, Ohio coroner, Connell had on his person a receipt for a breakfast he had purchased in Washington, D.C. on December 19, 2008. On December 31, 2008 it was reported that air traffic controllers had noted prior to the crash that Connell was off course, that they had been in communication with him regarding this, and that he had been trying to get back on course at the time of the crash. There were reported to have been no signs of mechanical problems with the plane.[5] The National Transportation Safety Board published its final report into the accident that killed Connell on January 28, 2010. The board concluded that Connell had lost control of the aircraft as a result of disorientation while turning in cloud. During a pre-flight briefing Connell had commented that he wanted to return to Akron before the weather "went from bad to worse". Several other pilots in the vicinity had reported severe icing at the time of the crash; Connell's aircraft was not equipped or approved to fly in icing conditions.[6]

Imagination and initiative, yes.. I DO see Jason Trejo's and Paul Ward's Radical Right (which does not include the YAF, E. H. Hunt, William Buckley Jr., nor the NE Establishment) as having both of those "qualities". Yet, regarding the "the sophisticated set up" and the guaranteed coverup that Paul Brancato mentions, I don't see the Ward-Trejo nonsense coming-off without the YAF, E. Howard Hunt, NE Establishment factor. Many factors were winding up to create great inertia for the assassination. IMO. It took a straw to break the balance. IMO, that straw was the ONI and it's concern about the future status of Guantanamo, after the YAF, the NE Establishment and their prospects for war, were already on-board, to make the decision to break the back of Camelot.

Paul Trejo's assertion here is bewildering. LHO's presence and employment at the TSBD, on the day of the assassination, is quite relevant "to blaming Lee Harvey Oswald for the murder of JFK."

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Agreed....

While I would like to back -off the Trump comments as unclear in specifics and relavence, I think this is a great post Dan.

The things that Paul can convince himself of are mind boggling. Does he just ignore our capture and occupation of Hawaii, Guam, Puerto Rico, The Phillipines and Cuba?

That is due, Paul Trejo, to your rabid use of the ignore function on this forum. It's kind of convenient isn't it, otherwise you could not make such claims. Your capitalized weasle-words don't go unnoticed as such. You seem to be unaware that your Hegelian dialectic "nuances" don't exist in the vacuum of your own skull. A dialectic by definition comes about in an exchange with others. Your "Dialectics" amounts to fraudulent blather.

Excellent David!

The fraudulency of Paul Trejo is disgusting.

Thanks David, his diary says he went back to or was going to, the US Embassy and got his passport back. I saw some state department docs somewhere that documented this, from the perspective of the embassy.

The Russians state in this document that LHO applied for Soviet Citizenship. https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/other/yeltsin/html/Yeltsin_0003a.htm and another. https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/other/yeltsin/html/Yeltsin_0014a.htm

I believe that was me Tom. I know I cleaned-up a very difficult to read copy. It is possible I found a cleaned up a copy and posted it. No harm meant. I will check, but I believe my copy came from the Boris Yeltsin cache'. There were other documents in that cache that supported the claims of LHO as stated in his diary. Few people are looking for anagrams and codes; many people will choose to not read a document that is painfully full of typos and such. If I cleaned this version up, it was for the greater good.