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Do these documents show the date? Were they from the period Harvey ran it, or during the time of the Assassination?
I wonder if any of the documents on him Might be legible IF they are released.
The silence regarding next Thursday is foreboding. It Should be a Historical one for the sake of what's left of Democracy.
Though it's significance may be lost on the subjects of the plutocracy, or, oligarchy.
They're Our Files. Free The Files.
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The rates are out. I have to work then but couldn't afford to listen anyway, even though they are "reasonable". Any first hand reports or observations of listeners would be appreciated.
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Forgive my frustration in starting this topic. There are multiple reputable serious researchers and others on the site who have enlightened me. Thank you.
I failed to notice Steve's topic or I would have just vented there about the lack of interest/attention to the files non (?) release.
But there has been a bit of cheese dominating some topics.
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A lot of what's been posted on this forum in the last few months is just that. There are multiple researchers and more inquisitive people than I that should confer their important observations on the most important subjects coming to light recently and (possibly) in the near future. E.G Earle Cabell. Phillips, Harvey, Joannides, Morales, Oswald, the Ghost.
http://jfkfacts.org/9-days-go-planned-disclosure-secret-jfk-files-flux/
https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Secret-Spymaster-James-Angleton/dp/1250080614/
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On 10/14/2017 at 9:44 PM, James DiEugenio said:
My installment on the Nixon years and the Fall of Saigon.
Difficult to write because Nixon was an even worse skunk than the film portrays him as.
Really sad to compare what happened there under Tricky DIck with what Kennedy was doing in 1963. And no they do not mention the Cambodia genocide or the Golden Triangle heroin running, which Ky was involved in.
https://kennedysandking.com/reviews/ken-burns-lynn-novick-the-vietnam-war-part-four-the-nixon-years
Excellent IMHO.
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It's been noted in a couple of posts here that the show was funded in part by the Koch's. I think it should be further noted that they started turning the large oil company inherited from their father into the monster Koch Industries has become in the 1960's. One might say the Vietnam War fueled their rise to the top of wealth and power. Transporting men and equipment half way around the world, not to mention in country use of jet, helicopter, truck, jeep, tank and personnel carriers fuel put a lot of government tax dollars in the pockets of at least a few oil barons.
I feel sure they felt Burns was "safe". He was probably well vetted before any funds were contributed, maybe on a personal basis by them. Certain aspects of the war were off limits. It's conceivable to me they may have had an advisor on hand during production that reported back to them on a regular basis. They could have had an opportunity to review and approve the whole thing before it's public release.
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I'm no help but what might be on the 7th floor or the roof? I've read Baker looked around the 7th floor very briefly and someone from the DPD went up on the roof at some point but detail fails my memory on anything important or leading.
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It's all quite simple. If a bullet shot downward from the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository entered JFK's back to the right of the Third Thoracic Vertebrate as indicated in pictures and the autopsy report, coat, and shirt, it didn't enter his neck/shoulder as future president Ford interpreted as a Warren (C)Omissioner. Arlen Specter's Pristine Magic changing directions in the air bullet is Bull Sh*t.
This is NOT HIS NECK. From the National Archives.
See? It's well below the cervical vertebrae.
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On 10/8/2017 at 1:53 AM, Kirk Gallaway said:
At least one of us speculate Nixon might have been trained by and controlled by the Dulles brothers early on.
Ron, Isn't that kind of a low bar? One person can speculate anything!!
I'm aware of all those connections. I hold more credence to Nixon ties to Prescott Bush because I know of that tie.
We can all agree that given Nixon's actions throughout his career, he's hardly above suspicion. But when politicians go to war zones , they confer with military heads, people with knowledge on the ground ( Lansdale's first came to Viet Nam in the mid 50's!) It's also not unusual for politicians to go to their embassy, which is where Lansdale worked. This is what they did then and do to this day. Nobody would find this unusual.
Certainly a picture of Nixon with Lansdale is hot and will raise a lot of speculation here. Why not? It would be interesting to hear anything "juicy" in what they might have said. But as for Nixon's being there in the first place, any political campaign manager worth his salt would say "Dick, get your xxx to Nam and reinvent yourself", which is really what that trips about. Having some experience growing up with Nixon in California, no one will convince me otherwise that the foremost drive going on with Nixon at that point in his career is getting elected President.
Above suspicion? His actions defy it. He was not quietly in Vietnam in 67 running for President of the USA. The rare picture provide by http://www.blackopradio.com/ (you won't see it in the chicken sh*t msm) shows him in Lansdales's living room, not the embassy in a public performance. Note the checkerboard U S tile and magazines stacked under the faux wood table. He said "I'm not a crook" and flashed the peace sign on the way out. He lied. I don't believe much of anything he said, ever. If he was running for president in Vietnam it wasn't for election by the U S populace. The picture hasn't been widely promulgated by the Main Stream Media, in his own memoirs, or by his proponents (e.g. roger stoned).
Who was Nixon's campaign manager in April 67? A year before MLK, RFK, LBJ quits?
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23 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:
Certainly in 64, there are more questions left answered. But politically speaking, and after all Nixon is a politician with avowed foreign policy experience. Politically, in 1967 Nixon was in Viet Nam because he had every intention of running for the Presidency in 1968, just like George Romney. Politically, that's just what politicians did because the Viet Nam War was the issue of the day.
This can't be dismissed that easily. At least one of us speculate Nixon might have been trained by and controlled by the Dulles brothers early on. This all rolls forward and backward in relation to "that bay of pigs thing" and the JFK Assassination.
How does Angleton figure into the middle of all this? As an associate of Dulles? Did he have private files on Oswald?
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On 10/4/2017 at 3:37 PM, Chris Newton said:
This still just floors me. How naïve I've been all my life. Unknowing about the Truth in History. Bless this site, those who contributed to it's existence and all the rest of whom have contributed to the pursuit of the Truth on it. Maybe someday my children or grandchildren will learn from it all. Maybe someday a Official Historian from Harvard or Yale will acknowledge reality, ha. Or the msm, nty/wapo will rebel, ha,ha!
We have two pictures of Nixon in Vietnam in 67 in no official capacity the year before he sabotages the 1968 Peace Talks to prolong the War to ensure his election.
Given his overall stature in History, how much more does History need to suspect he had nefarious objectives in this situation?
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11 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:
Looks like the Nixon, Lodge, Lansdale connection was a strong one and for a good amount of time going back into the 50's.
Going back to the50's if you throw in Secretary of State John Foster Dulles and his Director of the CIA brother Allan along with Connecticut Senator Prescott Bush (1952-Nineteen Sixty Three???), it really does get deep. Boots, hip waders won't do. Chest waders may not suffice.
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23 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:
From Hougan's article, referring to the NY Times article aka cover story:
That Nixon traveled to Vietnam in 1964 is a matter of fact. He departed the United States in late March on a round-the-world trip that took him, first, to Beirut, and then to Karachi, Calcutta, Kuala Lumpur, Bangkok, and Saigon. There, he dined with the American Ambassador, Henry Cabot Lodge, who had been his running mate in the 1960 Presidential race. In the days that followed, Nixon helicoptered into the countryside, [8] and then continued on to Hong Kong, Manila, Taiwan, and Tokyo before returning home. [9] Nixon later wrote that the purpose of the trip was to meet with Mudge, Rose clients and foreign leaders. Contemporary reports make it obvious, however, that the real purpose of the trip was to drum up international support for what was about to become America's massive intervention in Vietnam. [10]
There is nothing in the Times' account to suggest that the exchange of gold on April 3 was in any way relevant to the impending escalation of the war, but the possibility is an intriguing one. The Times' article is anything but conclusive. On the contrary, it simply parrots the cover story that Sergeant Kimmons had been given, while at the same time neglecting to identify the mission's middleman, the so-called “Father Wa.”I've looked using multiple combinations of relevant words and not found what I read in another article a few days ago which I should have physically noted. Father Wa was further identified, with CIA affiliation. And, it speculated the five guys coming out of the jungle to meet the chopper with him for the gold exchange were CIA operatives.
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Food for thought. Lansdale was there at the time as part of CIA Operation Phoenix. Was Nixon there consulting with, instructing, or advising him for the CIA?
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1 hour ago, Sandy Larsen said:
OMG this is fascinating. Nixon being in Vietnam. I wonder if both he and Bush were CIA early in their careers.
Nixon was never CIA per se. But his Patron into National politics was Prescott Bush. His career was supported, funded, directed by the Bushes, Dulles and their associates. See Russ Baker's Family of Secrets. Quite likely someone from this Nexus suggested he go to Vietnam in 64 and 67. But, supposition on my part, no proof. Kind of damning that he was there in the year before his sabotage of the peace talks to ensure his election in 68 though.
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Thank you very much Chris, Jim and Len. I was literally just about to post (while I had the one link below up and handy) that I didn't see a place to search on the Black Op's Radio site (wish I had more time to spend there!) and a google search of just "Nixon in Vietnam 1967" comes back as no results found. I did stumble across this article which shows a picture of Nixion in Vietnam in 1967 with Lt. Gen. Lewis W Walt, though the article subject is Nixon at the Bohemian Club in 67.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/28/opinion/the-day-nixon-began-his-comeback.html
What the heck was Nixon doing in Vietnam, apparently influencing U S policy, when he officially had no role in the Government at the time? This is some deep doo doo that doesn't seem to be well known. Any explanation by anyone ever on why he was there then or in 1964?
Ken Burns, PBS, are you listening?
Thanks again gentlemen.
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Jim I wonder who sent him, why is potentially addressed in the article. But I can't see Nixon suddenly deciding "I'm going on a world tour to bolster my image". He was a pawn. I'm curious if there is known sponsorship of the trip.
BTW, is there link to Len's picture? Nixon/Lansdale together in Vietnam in 1967 is significant. Worthy of inclusion in the revised edition of Ken Burns 'documentary".
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I'd read part of the info in the attached article below elsewhere in the last few months. Can't remember where.
http://jimhougan.com/NixonInTheJungle.html
Did Nixon play a role in the creation of the Gulf of Tonkin incident?
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Given the Defense Counsel and Expert Witnesses it might hopefully have some truthful Historical impact.
Odd or unique it's being done in the home adopted city of GHWB.
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16 hours ago, Jason Ward said:
Hi Paul,
I strongly feel too many good minds and resources are operating with a pre-conceived conclusion that the CIA (or some other murky government force) masterminded the assassination. This may have disastrously kept the truth or some part of the truth from us for 50+ years.
In practical terms, the problem I'm discovering is that large quantities of data remain unearthed because the dominant focus was and largely still is on the CIA. There are many many 1000s of pages relevant to the assassination that were never requested and were never released because everyone is chasing the CIA. I hope to help change that with a FOIA request from the Mary Ferrell Foundation and by working with Rex Bradford and Bill Simpich. There's plenty more out there we won't see in 2017.
I therefore feel it's relevant to point out the worst implausibilities of the CIA-did-it theory in order to gain interest from worthy and serious researchers both professional and amateur. Most of us have a full time job so uncovering the truth is not something easily done alone. In my opinion we can keep the possibility of some CIA resources involved in the assassination - but we also need to feel the imperative of demanding more information that our long term focus on the CIA has hindered us from doing.
regards
Jason
Ok, you've answered it, Who owned the cia? Not Angleton or Dulles but...
https://www.amazon.com/Ghost-Secret-Spymaster-James-Angleton/dp/1250080614
https://www.amazon.com/Devils-Chessboard-Dulles-Americas-Government/dp/0062276166
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6 hours ago, Paul Trejo said:
TPaul B.,
If MB meant 'Embassy' then 'MB SESIDE' would have been 'Embassy Society.'
That doesn't sound like the name of any organization that would admit the biggest pimp in Dallas to be a member; so Jack Ruby can be ruled out.
The Polish Ambassador was recorded as saying that both Jesse Curry and Jack Ruby were members.
In my reading, the John Birch Society is the rational explanation.
Regards,
--Paul Trejo
MBsee could be a sub plot of MBC on behalf of (Shhh) Mockingbird. JR wasn't the biggest pimp in town but he knew how to get ahold of That person when LBJ came to town. Not to muddy the waters or anything. JMho.
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10 hours ago, Loli Menezes said:
Hi, I'm a Brazilian documentary filmmaker and I'm doing a movie about Thomas J. Cardell Martyn, founder of Newsweek magazine. I read these questions that Professor John Simkin raised here in the forum and I was very interested in talking to him. I would like to make contact with Mr. Simkin and with whom else may have information, materials, stories about Thomas. I hope you can help me!!
PS: I leave my contact: loli@vinilfilmes.tv
Mr. Simkin is retired, though you might pursue contact through the site if serious. Interesting subject in terms of relation to Time, Life, and Operation Mockingbird.
Here's the "approved" version,
Trump: JFK files to be released
in JFK Assassination Debate
Posted · Edited by Ron Bulman
Here's the WaPo version, it's a little longer.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-plans-to-release-jfk-assassination-documents-despite-concerns-from-federal-agencies/ar-AAtNNPp?li=BBnb7Kz
"every word in every document, as the law requires." At least Shennon got that part right. I'll believe it after Thursday, after time to review what does come out.