W. Niederhut

Chris, If you knew anything about American history, media, and politics, you would realize that this is a perfectly apt description of the delusional Trump/Fox/GOP cult in the U.S. today. Are you still unaware that Rupert Murdoch and the talking heads at Fox News admitted in their recent Dominion depositions that they had knowingly lied to the American public about Trump's Stop the Steal scam? Have you still not realized that Tucker Carlson selectively released J6 film clips to mislead the American public about Trump's violent J6 coup attempt? You're 0-for-2.

Among other career highlights, Kevin McCarthy once bragged publicly about how Congressional Republicans had damaged Hillary Clinton's approval ratings by conducting endless "investigations" of the Benghazi non-scandal. Then, later, McCarthy was caught on an open mic joking with Paul Ryan and colleagues about how Trump and other Republicans had received illegal campaign funds from Russia in 2016. MAGA!!

C'mon, Ben. Get a clue for once, and stop stinking the joint up. First of all, Tucker Carlson didn't make this video evidence selectively available to the public-- Kevin McCarthy did, in an effort to mislead the public about Trump's violent J6 coup attempt. Secondly, both McCarthy and Carlson were shocked and appalled by the J6 violence at the Capitol. Then McCarthy flip-flopped from condemning to covering up J6, in order to preserve the loony Trump MAGA base of the dysfunctional GOP. McCarthy is a joke, as is Tucker Carlson. And you and Koch are what a media scholar at Stanford has aptly dubbed, "ampligandists"-- people who amplify propaganda on social media.

John, I see that, sadly, you're still a member of the Coalition of the Clueless here when it comes to accurately understanding Faux News and Trumplicon MAGA politics in the U.S.-- but, to your credit, Paul McCartney shares your disapproval of American Phil Spector dominance! 😵 Sir Paul hated Spector's syrupy arrangement of The Long and Winding Road.

Joe, My hunch is that most Fox News watchers don't know anything about the Fox transcripts from the Dominion lawsuit-- including Tucker Carlson's shocking comment about "hating Trump passionately." I seriously doubt that Fox has covered the story on their network. Like Mathew Koch and Chris Barnard, most Fox News watchers have also, apparently, embraced Tucker Carlson's latest false J6 narrative.

Matt, It looks like Chris Barnard and Mathew Koch have responded to the latest embarrassing Tucker Carlson bombshell by posting non sequiturs about "Cocaine" Mitch McConnell and the Nordstream pipeline. Last night, they couldn't stop raving about Tucker Carlson's inability to sustain an insurrection. So much for "rational dialogue." 🙄

Yeah, sure, Ben. Cheney and McConnell are, obviously, Donks... 🙄 And Liberace was heterosexual. You continue to twist yourself into a pretzel to deny the facts about Trump's J6 coup attempt.

Well, now I've heard everything. Ben has just dismissed Mitch McConnell as a "Donk hero." 🙄 That's like calling Jesse Helms a pillar of the Civil Rights movement.

Ben, This is a no brainer. Perhaps even you and Chris will eventually be able understand what happened. Start by reading the statement of the Capitol Police Chief Thomas Manger today on the subject. He explains, quite clearly, that the police were numerically overwhelmed, and resorted to de-escalation tactics, when they weren't engaged in direct hand-ro-hand combat with Trump's J6 MAGA mob. Capitol Police chief slams Carlson's comments about Jan. 6 video as 'offensive and misleading' in internal memo The Fox News host claimed the Capitol attackers were peaceful "sightseers." https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/capitol-police-chief-slams-carlsons-comments-jan-6/story?id=97686463

McConnell slams Fox and Tucker Carlson for Jan. 6 portrayal : NPR

John, With all due respect, this is complete gibberish, and apparently posted without intentional irony. "Pro-establishment?" To whom are you erroneously referring here? As for "engaging in a rational dialogue," I'm still waiting for you to respond to my request for an explanation of your implied thesis that Putin's war crimes in Ukraine are somehow justified by America's war crimes in the Middle East, and our alleged "full spectrum dominance." Do let us know when you're ready to engage in a rational dialogue on the subject.

Well, Matt, this would certainly explain Chris and Paul Rigby's recent dyspepsia about Ukraine! 😦

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink. You can lead a man to data, but you can't make him think. -- W. Niederhut (2017) Reality check for Mathew Koch, Chris Barnard and the Coalition of the Clueless

Wow. An entire page and a half of Tucker Carlson's MAGA spam has been posted on this thread during the past 12 hours--mostly by Mathew Koch... As George W. Bush said, "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and those are the ones you want to concentrate on." And, as we have have witnessed with the Faux narratives about Putin's invasion lately, Chris Barnard and John Cotter have thrown in their lot with our delusional MAGA spammers, Ben Cole and Mathew Koch. It's the Education Forum's Coalition of the Clueless-- those opposed to Phil Spector dominance. War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Fox is news.

Ron, I think we've all seen the extensive violent J6 Capitol footage-- with the possible exceptions of Mathew Koch and Benjamin Cole, who both adamantly refused to watch the Congressional J6 hearings last year. What we are witnessing on this forum is a microcosm of American society-- including a sub-population that embraces false narratives and refuses to answer questions about the damning evidence.

Well, it looks like Chris has leap-frogged my response to John's post, in which I requested an explanation of how Putin's war crimes are justified by America's war crimes in the Middle East. Most of us condemn both, (although I suspect that Mathew Koch was a Bush & Cheney "War on Terror" jingoist back in the day, as were Rupert Murdoch and his Fox News talking heads.) Chris has also declined my request that he post a source for his claims about the Kremlin-backed insurgency in eastern Ukraine since 2014. It looks like Chris, Ben, and John's new concept of "civil" discourse is to ignore questions and requests for explanations about their posts. What a cop out.

Matt, It's, obviously, NATO's fault-- part of the woke, pedophiliac, Phil Spector dominance of the Donk left. Ukraine needs to be radioactively purged of Western LGBT contaminants by Putin's fascist antifascists. Check with Mathew Koch, John Cotter, Paul Rigby, and Chris Barnard for full YouTube details.

What a pity, John. I was hoping that you and Paul Rigby might finally explain to us how two wrongs make a right-- i.e., how Putin's war crimes in Ukraine are justified by America's war crimes during the Bush/Cheney/Neocon "War on Terror." I have noticed during the past twenty years that some of my European acquaintances didn't seem to understand that many Americans-- roughly 50% of us-- never voted for George W. Bush and Dick Cheney in 2000 or 2004. It is true that George W. Bush's low approval rating soared after the 9/11 op, but some of us were opposed to the Bush/Cheney/Neocon "War on Terror" from the beginning.

John, You and Paul Rigby are either very poor readers or very slow learners-- attributes that you seem to share with our MAGA-verse denizens, Ben Cole and Mathew Koch. Ben, himself, has even likened his nocturnal diatribes here to flatus. And I responded to Ben by likening this thread to Oscar Wilde's description of marriage-- "An institution where bad words are exchanged by day and bad smells at night." 🤥 (Unfortunately, my "scholarly" reference to Wilde's aphorism was censored by our administrators.) I have already debunked your bizarre Rigby defense of Putin's war crimes-- based on the illogical theory that America's Neocon war crimes in the Middle East (including Operation Timber Sycamore) somehow justify Putin's war crimes in Ukraine. They don't. Two wrongs don't make a right. Russ Baker, himself, published a piece along the same lines, which I posted here recently.* You and Rigby either didn't read Baker's essay, or didn't understand it. * Western and Russian Imperialism: Our Wrongs Don’t Make Putin Right (substack.com)

So, our resident MAGA spammer, Mathew Koch, just falsely accused "woke" liberals of promoting pedophilia. Then, one page later, Mathew Koch is celebrating the misleading MAGA propaganda of the notorious Republican pedo-lawyer, Alan Dershowitz... Strange choice... 🤥 Mathew, did you bother to read your own scriptural reference from Mathew 18:6? Do you really not know that Alan Dershowitz, like Donald Trump, was an associate of pedophile Jeffrey Epstein? That Trump and Mathew Gaetz seem to have a thing for underage girls? And Dershowitz, himself, seems to have an unusual affinity for conservative pedophiles? NYT: Dershowitz was part of clemency effort for pedophile tied to Mideast talks | The Times of Israel Ex-Victoria’s Secret CEO Contradicts Alan Dershowitz in Epstein Fight | Courthouse News Service What We Learned From the New Yorker’s Alan Dershowitz Story (thecut.com)

Chris, I'm curious. Would you mind citing the source of your "information" about the Russian insurgency against the Ukrainian government in eastern Ukraine? (Preferably not a YouTube video, please.) BTW, did you hear about Sergey Lavrov's comic monologue in Delhi yesterday? Audience in Delhi openly laughs as Lavrov says Ukraine war ‘launched against’ Russia ‘You know, the war, which we are trying to stop, which was launched against us,’ says Russian foreign minister https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/sergey-lavrov-russia-ukraine-war-b2294079.html March 4, 2023

Some memes are just too good to avoid sharing... 🤥

Matt, Good question. How about Isaiah 5:20? "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" (Isa. 5:20.)

Mathew, C'mon, man. Do you really imagine that we "liberals" condone child abuse? Is this QAnon stuff, or what? Heaven forbid! What I am referring to (above) is compassion for our fellow human beings. Human sexuality is a complex phenomenon, with biological and developmental determinants. Pope Francis, himself, has admonished us to focus on compassion, rather than condemnation of others.